One Piece - Christian Religious Symbolism, Influence, and Themes
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Bartholomew Kuma may just have the strongest haki in all of One Piece. LOL
So real lol
The Bible often describes the enemy as a dragon so celestial dragons could hint heavenly devils as Lucifer is the fallen angel🧐
So true!
Yeah but explain why Luffy dad is called dragon too… I think Oda is flipping the script and making it like the good guys are evil and the bad guys are good…
@@lancasteredc7773that's exactly what he's doing. Same reason why Satan is a good guy in dragon ball. "In the last days they will call evil good and good evil"
@@lancasteredc7773 Just saying, the parallels in his story between the Gorosei and Imu and our elites and "their Imu" controlling everything, makes Oda look pretty based in my opinion, the dude is aware of what is going on in this world.
@@XYZip1what? that don’t make sense bro could you elaborate a lil
I think zoro is just death defiant. Hes always on the line of crossing. Infact he died in thriller bark, but oda said in an interview his soul got lost to the afterlife so he stayed alive. If anything. Id compare him to Azreal, the angel of death, delivering "peace" to others
Interesting idea
YES finally people are beginning to see it, Hallelujah! You will be able to appreciate this little factoid, Oda grew up RIGHT ACROSS THE BAY FROM SHIMABARA THE SITE OF THE SHIMABARA REBELLION! Not only that but one of the main figures of the rebellion was named JINBEI MASUDA or at times by another name, PETRO! Oda is an esoteric Christian confirmed!
Lowkey been thinking this for a while ,especially in these past chapters🤯🤯✝️
Wow just did a quick search learned about that Japanese civil war against the rebellions so many clues from Portuguese traders dutch sending an army of men to fight the rebellions but most shocking was the way of life in the ode time period seems very much like United States from the 4 different social classes (plus some sub classes) and that was common way of society for 300 years
Yeah, there was always a very Christian theme under all the anime esque action and adventure of One Piece that actually made me like quite a lot of the story, knowing about his potential Christian background now makes me like the dude even more. He is the kind of author that C.S. Lewis wanted "More Christians writing good literature."
One Piece helped me improve my relationship with God. Not saying the purpose was to spread God’s word but I saw Christian values in shows like One Piece. Another example is Rock Lee from Naruto taught me to never give up which is what Jesus wants from us because he never gave up for us ❤️. It’s amazing that even in Anime, God can use it to educate use on His word.
Awesome video. Doflamingo story is an upside down Jesus. Jesus was born into nothing and became royalty. Doflamingo was born into royalty and then became nothing. Jesus is crucified and tells his father to forgive the people crucifiying him. Doflamingo is crucified but does not ask for forgiveness but rather curses and kills them. Doflamingo has 12 disciples and corazon betrays him. Although Judas(corazon) is the good guy in this upside down story
Amazing point. I love this
And in both scenarios, there are 3 people being Crucified, Jesus and the 2 prisoners, and Don Flamingo, Don Flamingo, Rocinante, and Homing, in the Bible one prisoner mocks Jesus by telling him to save them to prove he was the Son of God. In OP Homing begs his assailants to at least spare his 2 kids, not only that but in One Piece, the entire Don Quixote family are being tormented for all the sins committed by all the Celestial Dragons. Bro let cook.
I knew a video like this would come one day im here for it
Jesus solo's all of one piece
And the Kkk joke was so unexpected 😂.
One piece has references to many religions but Christianity is major in the story
Jesus has insane haki
Christianity is not a religion uts the belief in what God has done, religion is working towards god man made nonsense
Highly debatable. By basically any definition of religion, Christianity is a religion. Just because it is a unique religion that sets itself apart in significant and transcendent ways, doesn't mean we still don't believe in and worship a supernatual power, have our own sacred texts, have our own rules bestowed onto us by said supernatural power etc.
@DrUpauli Religion is a man-made definition to substitute for idolatry, idolatry is worship of anyone or anything that isn't the true God so no it isn't a religion, Christianity is the simple belief in God, Christ sacrifice. This is why thousands of years ago it wasnt referred to as having different religions it was called idolatry. Example: Paganism
@Knucklehead-InChrist why does the Bible specify paganism instead of just calling it religious?
Jesus, God, and the Holy Spirit love you so much!
I think the reasoning behind Mihawk´s cross imagery along with what you mentioned is that he was introduced as a harbinger of death who would annihilate a fleet of 5000 men out of sheer boredom. For someone who sails in a modified coffin, using weapons in the shape of his unfortunate victims´future tombstones is very fitting. Likewise he has a weird amount of ties to Dracula from general design, the coffin ship, living in a gothic castle, tasting wine all day and sharing an eye shape with all but immortal beings (Imu and Zounesha). While I am no expert I do know that there are a lot of Dracula stories with some sort of religious angle. Why he is Dracula I don´t know but if Kuma carrying a bible can be explained 800 chapters later I don´t think it´s a stretch for this to also make sense once we properly explore Mihawk´s character.
All great points!
Whether you should watch it or not I think ultimately comes down to your own conscious. Romans 14:22-23 are good verses to keep in mind
No it's not
@caitlyncarvalho7637 zoro hanging on the cross because he sacrificed his reputation to save a girl is actually based. If the symbolism and aesthetics bother you, I would recommend not watching it. The show is about friendship and freedom from oppression and the opportunity to live a good life. Great messages imo. Not satanic
Also another fun symbolism is when luffy is fighting kaido, it’s copying a famous painting of god fighting leviathan
God is Freedom because God cannot Sin.
Freedom is in God's ability to do anything without commiting Sin. God is the representation of "Free" beyond our comprehension of Good and Evil.
If we look at this from a OP perspective we can apply this to Luffy. Someone who cannot Sin and wanders the world to become "Pirate King" (Freest Person) gathering his "Friends" to follow thier "Dreams." At every stop on his journey he encounters new "Friends" and liberates them from what he regards as sin. A "Friend" is someone who offers Luffy food and his gift back to everyone is a party.
Sounds like a pretty easy buy in to me.
So as a fellow human on a trip of theology. It is interesting to look at this story and the relations to Power and Justice to see into the mind of Oda.
I think in terms of thier Mythos Luffy = Jesus < God
Bit of a rant and likely hard to read, I just want to finish by saying that this is more complicated and that i am not trying to attack any Belief with this comment just making more conversation. Please leave any Agreements/Disagreements i would be glad to read about your thoughts on Theology/Ideology.
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I'm actually working on a video talking tangentially about this haha. Specifically the part about freedom and being good. Stay tuned!
And then on the opposite side of that coin you have a King that wasn't supposed to be there (Imu) ruling over the Gorosei, who in turn rule all the nations under them with their draconic rules. BASED ODA
"There he was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and his clothes became as white as the light." Mathew 17:2
I can hear them! The drums, the drums of liberation!
"The great dragon was hurled down-that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him." Revelation 12:9 😁
literal peak
Thanks bro
Another thing is zoro and sanji parallel peter and Paul. One killed a group before joining them, the other having association with fishermen, as well as both of them being the two moth faithful followers
I think "devil fruits" is just work play. One piece flips things like god and devils. It could mean that the "devil fruits" are actually "god fruits" or another possibility is that Oda is sneaking in another meaning. For example "devil" could mean "deva" which means divine, i think. "Deva Fruits"
Nonsense
That's a possibility
Oda is a Blakean
@@Knucklehead-InChrist Really? Because if you paid attention to the story, the Gorosei, the Celestial Dragons, they are the ones that erased an entire century of history and they rewrote whatever was left to make them the good guys. So, it is not far fetched to imagine that the "Devil Fruits" got that name for no reason other than to vilify the people that lost (whoever created the fruits), after all we already got them hiding Gol D. Roger's name from the public by spelling it as Gold Roger as they didn't want the average joe to know that Roger was part of the D. bloodline.
Also, reminder, that the world of One Piece is ruled by a powerful elite (Gorosei) that controls all the narrative in that world, that they are all devils in disguise (remember their transportation spell makes them come out from a freakin pentagram, also all their demonic battle forms) and that they all follow a King of the World (who rules it from the shadows), I wonder what Oda meant by that...
Imagine people worshipping Sun God Nika 1,000 years after One Piece ends 💀
I get confused. And of the lust that’s put in the story. Also of the “king of hell” and Zoro being a “demon”. Imu being the ruler of the world.This confuses me and I don’t know if it’s against the Bible. I see all these points, but it still boggles my mind and don’t even know what’s wrong or what’s right
I was watching a video about christamity and realized one piece is based off the bible like the world is flooded the sunmy being made from the adam tree. The devil fruits like its deffinatly has alot of Christianity in it idk how i just now noticed this by the time the story is done alot of people will realize one piece is a christan epic
Maybe Zorro, Nami and Luffy represent the Trinity? Zorro the suffering sun, Luffy the all mighy father and Nami the holly ghost as the controller of the elements.
Also wanna throw in Gol D Roger's similarity to John the Baptist; being the forerunner to Luffy, preparing the way for him, and baptizing him via inherited will 🧐I've always seen a clear Gnostic influence in One Piece: The whole God-Devil inversion, worship of false gods, the messianic light-bearer motif with "the dawn" (Lucifer is a title linked with Christ in Gnosticism), the malicious corrupted creator, creation as being inherently flawed, Celestial Dragons as fallen angels/archons-- both of whose chiefs represent the planets. Plus *the archons' flooding the world & the great cleansing*, hidden knowledge as the key to salvation, the Cathar Crusade & the Buster Call on Ohara.
Hell, Luffy was even called "Lucy" in Dressrosa, the arc he fought a Celestial Dragon/archon. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if the relationship between Nefertari D Lilli & Imu parallels to the relationship of Sophia & the Demiurge. Nor would I be surprised if Joyboy has a deep relation to Imu in a Sun/Moon type of duality. I now suspect as well that the Gorosei are some kind of creations of Imu, similar to how the Demiurge created the archons when cast into the void. Gnostics see the archons as ruling a "Kingdom of Darkness", and Sabo calls Mariejois "hell at the very top of the world"
Gnosticism can be boiled down to _the liberation of the soul from creation_. In One Piece it's the exact same, but creation refers to what Imu has fashioned the world into. The serpent of Eden is a gnostic savior who giving Adam & Eve divine knowledge, so they can eventually escape the flawed creation. "Devil" fruits also allow people to escape from Imu's creation, providing strength to be like "god" and rebel. I'm not a Gnostic, I took an interest in the theology as a student; Oda being a fellow history nerd probably did the same. IMO it's too uncanny to not be intentional; sorry for the rant, just wanted to give some insight on the god-devil inversion & why I think Gnosticism is a major factor beyond that 🤪
1 Corinthians 15 1-4
15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
disappointed you didn't even mention thriller bark which is full of christian symbolism.
Maybe it's just been a while since I watched that arc. Could you remind me?
I'm so confused at this point, is it for Christianity or against it
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The D stands for don lol don craig was the clue all along
In One Piece devil fruits are regulated and demonized by the world government, the reason for this is tge fact that Devil Fruits give ordinary citizens the power to resist the WG, so I see the whole dynamic of DF to be symbolic of the 2nd amendment.
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bare arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
Lol that's one way to look at it I supoose
What about the gifts that God gives us both physically and spiritually and how the devil tries to hinder us from “awakening” those gifts or subverts our will by tempting us with sin to misuse those gifts so that we aren’t able to expand God’s heavenly kingdom, which is one of eternal peace, love, and joy.
Good point. I mean, one look at the Gorosei and you can pretty much imagine a similar group of people like them here.
Watch when the water levels go down in one piece the sunny will end up resting on. A mouatin top watch bro lol
Doflamingo not satan that either imo or blackbeard but rather lucifer his brother corazon is gabriel for healing.
Look at Luffy's chest there's scar shaped like X mark..X mark in pirates maps is location where treasure is burried...what's inside luffy's chest???...inside Luffy's chest lies his HEART...chest has dual meaning and is used cunningly by Oda ..chest can mean body part above abdomen...also chest can mean box of treasure or container..Thus the one piece treasure hidden in RAFTEL is a heart ..what kind of heart??? answer is : not biological heart..if u notice well the genre of manga is turning into mecha genre ...THUS the one piece treasure's true identity = A MECHA HEART THAT WILL BE IMPLANTED LUFFY'S CHEST WHERE THE X SCAR IS....THE MECHA HEART AKA ONE PIECE WILL BOOST LUFFY'S GEAR ABILITIS AND IT WILL PRODUCE UNIQUE POWERFUL HEARTBEATS SIMILAR TO TAIKO DRUMS' it can control robots...
Bible : Matthew 6:21 : “For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also"
Oda did what the Bible authors did with the Odyssey Epics by Homer 😂
Israel acting like Celestial Dragons Irl 💀
Maybe they are hiding the true history? 🤔 💡
Right...
Jews Suffered from plenty from many assholes, including Christians.
How did you twist your thought to that conclusion
Wait yes and no on God being the good guy in the Bible 1:45 ! In the Gnostic text he is the opposite! Amazing video please do more like this on one piece
Well the gnostic text are heresy so they don't count.
My theory
IMU, devil fruit or not, is a “mara” from mythology. An old “celestial” entity that’s jealous of true gods. Oda might be playing off the lore of Shin Megami Tensei. There’s lots of parallels there. Additionally look at the forms of Mara in mythology and in Shin Megami… The traditional depiction of Mara has similarities to tot musica and the devil king. The Shin Megami version is a “worm” like form with tentacles, which will surely make you laugh. In the traditional depiction, Mara has 5 floating skulls around his neck or head area (elders). Mara in both forms here, rides a massive elephant that is “cursed”(Zunesha). In Norse mythology there is also a creature called “Mara”. This creature causes nightmares, an oppressed feeling, and is defeated by taking its hat…The Spanish word for “sea” is “mar”
Thank you I’ll be here all week
PS: Mary Geoise = Mara Jo, which means Mara Castle. Just maybe Pangea is based on Himeji Castle, which is said to be inhabited by a yokai that HATES humans…it just keeps going..
Cool theory!
This is a case of observation bias. You see what you know, and that's christianity since you are a christian writer. Oda uses several religions and spiritual concepts in this world, so there are some aspects that align with christianity. But Oda likes to go out of his way to show the good and bad of different beliefs. And Christianity is more often used to represent the villains, since many christian beliefs are predatory. Luffy is not pirate jesus, hes much closer to reflecting the Buddha Nature of freedom. Highly recommend looking into Daoism, Buddhism, and the I Ching to understand the numerology and more basic premises of the story.
How do we know that christianity being used for villains isn't also observation bias from you? Also, I make it p clear when I am speculating and when I'm making more sure fire observations if you listen carefully. I often say "possibly" or "might" when I'm making a loose connection that may or may not be intentional, but when talking about something like the Noah, I'm more certain
@@DrUpauli You should know thats always the case, people have biases obviously. But no I dont think its observation bias to say one piece protagonists also feature buddhist influences. Nor that villains like enel, celestial dragons, are often associated with "good" christian values. While the protagonists get associated with demons, devils, and hell you even point some of this out. Its done because oda isnt saying christianity is all right. The gods are sinking the earth to purify people, and this is depicted as evil. Something the christian god also does which is evil
@@jasonjacksonii1805 so what was the point in highlighting my observation bias when you admit we all have it? Also ik there's a lot of other religious influences. I was just specifically highlighting the Christian ones. I think I say that in the beginning. Also I just think there's far too many mixed messages for Oda to be saying One Piece is anti Christian. Like how Kuma is like a priest and holds a Bible, the Noah is set to save humanity, etc.
@@DrUpauli The point was because your explanations of things are very one dimensional. Luffy comes way closer to stories of the Buddha, Hanuman, and wuxian legends like Sun Wu Kong. Just not a fan of west washing this piece of eastern literature, by making luffy seem like pirate jesus. And idk why youre avoiding the negative portrayals of christian ideology, bc i never said oda was anti christian. Pointing ot the flaws and benefits of christianity is exactly what i said he did.
@jasonjacksonii1805 maybe I misunderstood. I thought you were saying one piece was saying christianity itself was bad which I don't really see. I do agree tho, there's far more eastern influence than western. I think I say that in the video. If you don't like me showing the western parts then that's fine ig. Just not your kind of video
Emu is eve
can you talk about luffy as the “sun god”? what’s that about?
Could be a play on words. “Sun god” sounds like “son god” which could mean “son of God”. Jesus calls himself the son of God and Luffy looks to be inspired by the second coming of Christ. In the context of the actual story, not too sure yet
@@wa_________ge3254 i believe that’s incorrect. watching the new episodes of one piece, they call individuals “gods”, which is blasphemy and idolatry. i’m making a manga myself and i will NEVER call someone god other than the true God with a capital G.
@@Takenist Like I said, It could just be a reference like many others in the series. I never said that it’s an accurate telling of the Bible
@@wa_________ge3254 still, this anime clearly isn’t of God and i don’t think it’s a good show to watch if you follow Christ
@@Takenist Crodie its just a show
If it doesnt make you sin and doesnt affect your relationship with God its fine stop overthinking
God gave us freedom were not forced to do anything
Unless its believing in Jesus the Christ and his death burial and ressurection it isnt Christian doesnt matter what nonsense you try to portray
Yea, One Piece isn't a Christian anime (unfortunately), also, by that definition, would you consider C.S. Lewis's Narnia unchristian?
@DrUpauli Has christian themes, if it aint got Jesus-Christ in it, it's not Christ-ian
Aslan is Jesus lol@@Knucklehead-InChrist
@@roanora7853 ?
@@Knucklehead-InChristRead the narnia series. The point of the story is that Aslan is Jesus lol
One piece is a flip I believe… we need to get more info yet but I believe Oda is apart of the occult. I think he is flipping the script and saying God is the devil or evil and luffy or antichrist is the good guy and wants to bring the world into one piece like one world… but it can also mean the opposite so I do t know yet but so eat makes sense why the straw hat crews are depicted as demons… I don’t know why he would do that unless he trying to make demons like good and angels or people with order bad.. satan wants people to be free or liberated without order or God… but it can also mean that Imu represents devil and the world government is the antichrist reign and religious powers that’s why their flag is a cross.. maybe he is coming at the religious church which Jesus came against too.. they did call Jesus the devil and his disciples were called demons or rebels by the religious leaders that killed Jesus.. so maybe it’s his interpretation of the end times or how the reign of the antichrist will look like… we need Oda to clear this all up
Oda is writing one of the most famous stories in the world. He's likely a part of the occult..
The Celestial Dragons being a powerful elite that follows a very evil figure that rules the world from the shadows says otherwise, if anything Oda is closer to being like CS Lewis and Tolkien, a really well beloved author that used Christian themes to build a story.