perfomance ? when i buy laptop, i also want to see nice spekers, nice keyboard and nice build quality, they put 2 x 2 w speakers, while asus put 2 x 4 w + 2 x 2w speakers
@@dax4812 For what I can see, the legion 7 is a bit more expensive than the scar due to its shortage in supply. But if you can get a legion 7 at the retail price it is definitely worth it.
Hii! Would you mind a few questions? I'm looking to buy a legion 7 since my 10 years old laptop is getting old:( but there are no models, do you had to wait / hunt for existences? Or is it a bad sign that there are no models as of right now?
@@alanbasoria5265 I live in the Netherlands and the only model available when I was looking to buy was the rtx 3080 one with 16 gb ram. I actually wanted the rtx 3070 32 gb ram model but after waiting for over 2 months, my patience ran out. So i just bought the 3080 16 gb. Depending on where you live, the availability of legion 7 models will differ. I suggest if you can, just order the laptop at any big retailer and wait for sometime. If you have a higher budget, get the 3080 models, they have a higher change of being available
oh yes , yes RGB, most important thing in gaming laptops, they give you about +60 fps in every game. + 1000 holy protection to your virginity and also the most important +300 to GEH. All hail RG(eh)B lights! this is the way
my eyes were already set on the legion 7 from the start... because it has a num-keypad. I seriously need that for work-at-home stuff and when I'm playing my MMOs. PLUS 165w 3080?! FORK YEAH! this is going to be one HELL of an upgrade! :D
Great review! I thought about getting ASUS Strix but the huge turn off was the colour gamut that it offered. The laptop was almost perfect until I find out that the colour gamut was only 62.5% unless you pay an extra MYR2k+ ($480 ish) and it was just totally not worth it. I plan to use it for graphics + 3D work and colours are the top of my priority here. I'm eyeing on the Legion 5 Pro rn and the specs I'm looking at is only around $1270 (for the 3060) and $1450 ish (for the 3070 config) which I'm more satisfied about with the price imo
I’m by no means a techie, so his videos have really helped me in my laptop search. Even after I buy my laptop I’m going to continue subscribing. Thanks for the info and the humor!
The problem is due to the brightness, which is the most important factor along with color cycle speed. It sometimes helps performance to put a military grade flashlight inside the keyboard, the extra light will allow higher fps
It could be because the Scar doesn't have them at the right places. If Asus adds RGB even to the air vents, then it will surely perform better than Legion.
Perfect comparison video! Both these machines are great and at the end of the day, the decision comes down to which features you value more. Availability and when you need the laptop is the next thing to keep in mind, in my case, there is no information about when the Legion 7 will be coming out and the Scar 15 is available to purchase and so I'll be going with that. Great video as always!
I love ASUS after having my Zephyrus g15 but i saw this title and had to watch. I agree with your personal choice for the Lenovo, despite HEAVILY looing into the scar series.
In your experience, how much time is normal for waiting restock?:( id like to buy the legion 7 to replace my 10 years old laptop, is getting old / slow but man im scared of not being able to buy a legion 7 relatively soon
Thank you for this review/side by side comparison... i am currently looking for a gaming laptop and i had already narrowed it down to either Lenovo Legion 7 or asus scar 15 :)
I have the Asus Strix Scar 17. If Legion 7 was released earlier, I would definitely go for the Legion 7, definitely a no brainer decision. Why? Higher GPU limit, MUX switch, has a camera, metal chassis, better temps. Strix Scar's only sole advantage is the optical mechanical keyboard and nothing else.
IDK what the point in buying a laptop that looks like a generic knock off made in China for China product. They charging Louboutin sneaker money just to have you lookin like you're sporting Payless sneakers. 😂
Thank you so mutch for this rewiew, I was waiting for this ! Now I know what will be my future gaming laptop (going for Lenovo). The only thing I don’t understand is when the new Lenovo legion will come out ?
@@dotcom2113 I know but there’s not a lot of people buying it because they don’t know the brand, the most part of the person goes for brand like asus msi and others but this is the gaming laptop that have god components. Just want to know a date because I’m in Europe
@@dotcom2113 wow that’s nice here in Europe a lot of person don’t know this brand maybe if they watching this video they will find out that this Pc is an absolute beast
@Jarrod'sTech Impressive video this is very useful video i have seen it clears that what laptop i have to choose and for what reasons both are great according to users need .. and thabks for making the comperison between these two laptops
Great review. Just remember that on Optimus-equipped devices, if you use an external monitor through the USB-C port, you'll squeeze all the juice out of that GPU. That's why Lenovo performs so much better in games here. It should perform better due to the increased W limit, but marginally. USB-C external display will get you the extra.
I'd like to see the price difference between r7 and r9 with a 3070. Alienware only charges $100 for the r9 if you're getting the 3070 m15 r5. At 5% of the overall cost of the machine, I think that's a pretty good deal.
I wanted to go for the Lenovo , but it wasn't released at the time and I needed a laptop for college, so ya RIP. Well at least I think the scar looks better imo and I like the keyboard.
thanks Jarrod, I had the scar 15 max config for about 3-4 months and its pretty good I even bought an external monitor (34 inch ultrawide wqhd 165hz) and its preforming even better. only down sides: no camera (but it comes with an external one) and the biggest one is that stupid mux switch that causes so much trouble (a lot of apps think that you only have the built in graphics and doesn't recognize or use the powerful 3080). thanks for the awesome videos :)
Jarrod, you can tell I've been watching too many of your video's. 10:53 is showing/listing the wrong device. It shows the Legion but lists the Scar. Just a heads up. Thanks for the detailed vids 👍
I've watched this video like three times and still can't make a clear choice... better screen & ~10% better performance across the board on the Legion, but better keyboard on Asus, as well as a more interesting design (for me at least... but then again, I associate the Lenovo style so strongly with work)
Thank you for checking Linux! The previous generation Legion 7i (mine is i7 10875h, 2080 Super) has issues with sound and Linux as well. Lenovo seems entirely uninterested in fixing this and it's already been reported that this new model has the same issue. It's very frustrating as I want a powerful, (mostly) professional looking laptop that can also game when the mood strikes me. I'm in Linux at least 93% of the time. I understand that this isn't a Linux supported laptop, but there's nothing stopping them from releasing drivers or providing documentation so someone else can address this. I've been using Linux since the 90's and otherwise I don't need any other support. Everything else works great under Linux including g-sync when optimus is disabled. I would have returned this laptop in the 30 day window had I known this would be an ongoing issue (I bought mine in August of 2020). Unfortunately, one of my hinges broke a few days ago. This seems to be a common problem with the older Legion 7 and sounds like it's probably fixed with the newest models. Just waiting for ultimate support to get the parts and come to my house to repair my laptop on the spot. Maybe I can have the tech disconnect the annoying LED on the Legion logo on the back of the lid (seen in this video). It pulses while the laptop is asleep and can annoy me when I'm trying to sleep. Or I could just put electrical tape on it. :p
Lenovo has become a winner in laptops... I still doubt the aftersales... Try to stress on after sales as well , buying a good laptop doesnt make ang sense unless the aftersales isnt reliable...
Hey Jarrod, got a quick question. Is it time I need to upgrade my laptop? The only games I play is overwatch on high/ultra settings and programs such as SPSS and MS Project and millions of chrome tabs and MS Word for never ending essays and reports. Current set up: Acer nitro 5 (2019 I think) Intel i7 16gb ram (ram is upgradeable to 32gb if I decide to download more) 500gb SSD primary 1TB SSD secondary (installed myself) GTX 1660Ti The fans are getting quick "noisey" at times and temps reach around 50 -60 degrees delicious, even when I'm just writing out essays with 10+ chrome tabs,. When gaming overwatch, my temperature maxes around 80 - 83 degree Celsius, when weather is room temp. I changed the thermal paste about a year ago and I even under volted, which I found the most useful as before I was sitting around 83-90 degrees celcius. I know I've only had the laptop for roughly 2 years but for me I find those temperatures quite high for such tasks and application
Generally it's time to upgrade if what you're using isn't getting you by anymore. That said those specs should still handle those tasks no problem, so probably no need on upgrading. Those temperatures are quite low when under load and not worth worrying about.
Those 3D mark scores look like a 2080ti/3070. That’s fantastic but begs the question of why theses laptop screens are not high resolution. Looks like your gaming benchmarks are heavily cpu bound Jarrod. Anyways thanks for the best laptop reviews period.
Both laptops are neck and neck in terms of performance (difference of 1 to 2 fps) when you bypass optimus on the scar 15 by connecting it to a external monitor...that is interesting considering the legion has a 150 watt 3080 🤔...but the Scar 15 still held its own against it even with a 130w 3080...i didn't expect that kind of a performance boost by disabling optimus on the scar 15...so basically bypassing optimus is the key...asus should have just added a mux switch on the scar 15
I guess 130W is the limit when either the CPU becomes the bottleneck or the games are simply run in too low resolution. It would probably be a different picture running in 2K or 4K.
Do you think that asus will add mux switch to laptops next year? I want to buy g15 or legion 5 pro but cant deside. Iam probably going to buy it some time after christmas. I dont think that There are better mid range laptops than these two. Also i like your videos. You really helped me.
It's so cute how he keeps reviewing these laptops as if people can actually see buy them. I ordered an Asus Strix G15 (3070) from XOTIC PC back in April. The ETA for delivery was listed as May, but it recently changed to August. It seems like my brand new laptop will be outdated before it even ships. At least they already have my money and won't answer the phone when I call for any information.
looooooooooool, don't order something wont be shipped within 1 week window, it big no no for now a days fast changes, your laptop lost of it value already
I was going to wait for this year Legion laptop, but they took too long for me to wait for release and i really need a laptop replacement. In the end, i managed to find and buy ROG Strix G17 and still enjoy using it now.
this may be unrelated, but I CANNoT WAIT FOR THE LEGION 7 PRO to be released in the states (also good luck getting one). It was a miracle to find a local shop had the 2021 Scar 17 (Ryzen 9 , 3080, 32gb, 2TB) in stock. They have it for $2999 and i reserved one. Im going to pick it up today. But if the Legion 7 pro drops in USA the next two weeks: i will be returning the scar if i get a chance to obtain the legion. Also for anyone looking at the price tags or on the fence about building a desktop, its going to cost roughly the same, only THESE THINGS ARE PORTABLE. This is my perspective as a content creator who works with CAD/rendering/animation, video/photo editing, with multiple programs running (including chrome 😂).. that being said the legion 7 and scar 17 are absolutely STACKED for designers / content creators. Another point I'd like to make: Before deciding on a 3080, i was only looking at the 3070 laptops because price range. Then i realized some of my work is far more intense then video games, not to mention the 3070 is only 8gb vram and The mobile 3080 is offered in 8gb or 16gb VRAM. IMO youd be a fool not to pay the extra coin for the 16gb. sure the prices will drop..next year. Normally most other brands (Alienware for example) will try to sell something like this for 4000-5000+ usd... So if you're a gamer then maybe I would suggest building a desktop or buying some older tech as the prices drop. As for the scar 17, im not gonna pinch overinflated pennies. I know it will be enough power for my applications, the only gaming i do is emulators. Im not concerned about the MUX or FPS because i heard there is some sort of manual mode. The HDMI issue and SD slot is kinda annoying but not a dealbreaker. Also i never used the webcam on my 8 year old IdeaPad but im a tiny bit bummed it doesn't have one. The legion 7 pro and scar 17 are the only options if you want to support AMD + 3080 with 32gb+ RAM and you need the numerical keypad
Hi jarrod, great review, i got asus scar 15 3080. Do you think asus will release 150w vbios update for 2021 version ? I saw in techpowerup there is asus vbios powerlimit 150w, but not sure if i want to flash it, do you think if the same asus vbios, the port like hdmi and usb c dp still works if i flash it ? Thanks
I got stuck between these two devices... cant decide which to buy... There is something I want to mention. Metal body has this feature. It emits heat and eventually laptop gets cooler faster. but if your hands on it they burn as a result. but if you are going to use an external keyboards that wont be an issue and metal body wins. But plastic body traps heat inside so your hands will feel less of heat. if you are going to play games w/o a ext. keyboard, asus is better and also it has a cool mech. keyboard.
I’m wondering if Asus is not applying the liquid metal properly at the factory because I observed high idle temperatures as well in a Zephyrus G15. It would sit over 50C in silent mode while my 8-core Intel-based Dell XPS 17 would be at least 10 degrees cooler under identical conditions.
Hi Jarrod. Had you even ran a raid0 on these laptops? I have a ROG G17 2021, and would like to have 2x ssds in raid0, I had seen an video showing no performance gain, according to him, due to the MB design (that case was a Dell). I wonder if that limitation goes beyong Dell`s, if you have available for test, I would like to see more, specially in Ryzen 5000's laptops. Thank you very much.
Yeah, same shameless no-MUX across all the Asus 2021 line-up (bar 1 or 2 Intel Tigerlake future products). Keep afar from those if you define yourself a gamer.
@@arit1893 Yeah it's 1440p and it looks great once you tone down saturation set by AMD in Radeon software. It can get a bit hot, but still optimal - not above 85 degrees Celsius. Also, depends on fan settings, of course. I don't play games on it but I am a game developer so I "abuse" hardware a lot in game engine, however I don't hold my hands on keyboard (WASD area) much, so I can't really say if it gets too hot for gamers. I play on desktop :)
Scar 17 doesn't bring anything to the table compared to the Scar 15 (I know as I owned one) besides the screen. Thermals aren't even really better. It seems Asus uses the same thermal system on both.
Good evening! Sir Jarrod, I’m Jason from Philippines, newbie about laptop. I just want to ask some tips or things to do that you can recommend to me on using my New laptop. I will also raise some questions about my Legion 5. I’m still not unbox it because I don’t know what’s first thing to do and honestly, I’m actually panicking. I can’t find any good tutorial on what things to do first when I open it. 1. Are we making system image? 2. Bios? 3. Is anti-virus needed? Because on store it says that windows defender can do the job. But if it’s still needed, what can you recommend? 4. Empire points? 5. How can you prolong the battery life of legion? Can I full charge the laptop after use or even if not? 6. What software or apps you would recommend I should install? These questions I get from other viewers but still not complete. I will be happy if you will give your “STEP-BY-STEP” Tutorial on the things I should do as I use my new laptop. Lenovo Legion 5 Gaming Laptop, 15.6" FHD IPS 300Nits 144Hz, AMD Ryzen 7 4800H, GeForce RTX 2060 6GB GDDR6, Windows 10, 16GB Memory, 512GB PCIe SSD Thanks for answering! Will be much appreciated Sir!
@@bahadrbaserkok3335 yo, im talking about scar vs legion build quality, scar looks like some kids lappy.. Also the Performance and Cooling results are way better in Legion lineup. If im putting my money to buy one of these, Legion is the way to go just as Jarrod says...
What laptop would you recommend for all around performance? I will be mainly performing content creation but am an avid gamer, budget is not a problem, and I need something powerful but versatile. I feel like you'd recommend the legion 7 even with the brick a/c adapter but I just want to see your thoughts, I'm getting antsy waiting for legion 7 while the legion 5 dropped and is available lol.
Honestly, if you're doing some content creation, you'll definitely want that nice 16" 16:10 1600p screen. Feels weird and constrained to go back to 1080p 16:9 after that !
You have some of the best reviews and comparisons on RUclips! I really wish you stop neglecting Alienware though /: I'd love to see how my m17 r4 stacks up against the competition
@@JarrodsTech Wow, thanks for the reply!! So Alienware is actually neglecting you! I had it backwards 😂. I hope they send you the new X17 being revealed on June 1st. Fingers crossed 🤞🏽
I have the Scar 15 with WQHD 100% DCI-P3 screen, Legion is a slightly better package but has only 100% sRGB that's why I went with the Asus. I'm waiting for Legion 7 gen 7 with a micro led screen and that is going to be the best laptop on the market and my new machine.
Excellent. I got the scar, a couple of months ago, I am happy to see it fit my use case marginally better than the legion, tho I use Linux a lot, so it is really a mixed bag. I opted for the 1440p panel, and it is so beautiful, that I am very happy with it. Thanks for the comparison, it helped me settle my mind
@@user-ry8qv1mx5s Ryzen 9 and 1 TB vs Ryzen 7 and 512gb? What is the monitor difference? And the Asus, even without the mux bypass, might be a better deal. Especially if you are talking about the 1440p 144hz monitor... If both are 1080p, I would consider the legion, tho that price difference, really makes it difficult to decide
@@user-ry8qv1mx5s is it online or in a physical store? If a physical store, go and look at them, use the keyboard... If online only, then it really depends on your use case. Dual usage? Work/Games? How are you likely to use the laptop?
@@macadamia8662 Rather, I prefer a computer that doesn't reach high temps with light tasks. Ths Scar 15 has good temps while doing heavy stuff, but when just browsing or something like that it gets on temperatures close to the same i have when gaming
@@clemdawn2037 Nope. I had an Asus Scar 17, supposed to have even better thermals than the Scar 15 (although not even by a noticeable amount), and I can tell you from experience that the Asus ran much hotter in nearly all light and heavy tasks, CPU and GPU wise, and that was with a manual FAN curve the Lenovo does not even offer. Using a laptop IDLE is only when you don't have applications running, except those from the system and the devices, including the services.
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Legion 5 Pro vs Legion 7 still to come!
Okk
This is not a which is better question this is is it worth it question
This is how edging looks like (jk)
Legion 5 vanilla, where?
With same ram plz
Jarrod, the format of your reviews is top of the art ngl. It's everything in a short timeframe, so much better than what i've seen around.
I agree 👍. No bloat or ego/personality trying to compete with content. No annoying, mid-sentence pitch or 'word from our sponsor' either
Does Legion 7 has a display port?
The key feature here for me is definitely the hard camera switch so I can safely and privately view your videos.
We all love Jarrod's video, just no need for anyone to know how much
The scar has no camera - so it's more safe then the legion.
For those with serious and of course helpful replies, my comment was just a meme referencing his joke at @2:18
@@davemeech this is a serious discussion, do you mind?
@@bobcoffee11 I'm so sorry, please continue.
Lenovo: performance and fighter jet inspired design
ROG: Y'all need more rgb
fook yeaaa
perfomance ? when i buy laptop, i also want to see nice spekers, nice keyboard and nice build quality, they put 2 x 2 w speakers, while asus put 2 x 4 w + 2 x 2w speakers
@@maylwer2500 chill dude, the guy made a joke
@Azzam agree
Lenovo:-also extra rgb just for better performance
Thanks for including GNU/Linux compatibility! It is one of the key things in a laptop and most reviewers don't check it!
Exactly.
Yeah its great to be able to turn webcam off and have some privacy while I..uh.. watch your video's. :P Yet another great Jarrods tech video :)
@Azzam no need. My legion 5 2021 has privacy shutter built in.
@@SYmotgang same,
I am trying to choose between them thank you for the help! + Keep the metal \m/
Just courious what are the prices of both?
@@dax4812 For what I can see, the legion 7 is a bit more expensive than the scar due to its shortage in supply. But if you can get a legion 7 at the retail price it is definitely worth it.
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make sure you get 4k monitor for 4k gaming otherwise a 900$ laptop could run 1080 60fps i personally would get msi raider 76 4k
@@adrianos2526 4k gaming is for casuals
Jarrod, because of your amazing review of the lenovo legion 7, I got it 😊 days ago. And I must say your review was on point! Thanks good sir!
Hii! Would you mind a few questions? I'm looking to buy a legion 7 since my 10 years old laptop is getting old:( but there are no models, do you had to wait / hunt for existences? Or is it a bad sign that there are no models as of right now?
@@alanbasoria5265 I live in the Netherlands and the only model available when I was looking to buy was the rtx 3080 one with 16 gb ram. I actually wanted the rtx 3070 32 gb ram model but after waiting for over 2 months, my patience ran out. So i just bought the 3080 16 gb. Depending on where you live, the availability of legion 7 models will differ. I suggest if you can, just order the laptop at any big retailer and wait for sometime. If you have a higher budget, get the 3080 models, they have a higher change of being available
oh yes , yes RGB, most important thing in gaming laptops, they give you about +60 fps in every game. + 1000 holy protection to your virginity and also the most important +300 to GEH. All hail RG(eh)B lights! this is the way
It’s eye candy to my wife 🤷🏻♂️😂
my eyes were already set on the legion 7 from the start... because it has a num-keypad. I seriously need that for work-at-home stuff and when I'm playing my MMOs. PLUS 165w 3080?! FORK YEAH! this is going to be one HELL of an upgrade! :D
Me too it seems like it will be released mid-June I’ve been waiting for so long
the Legion 7 is my choice too, no doubt it
Well it cost 3k so yeah better be one hell of an upgrade
2:18 yes yes
Absolute privacy is needed while watching jarrods videos😏
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Cracked up at it
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Great review! I thought about getting ASUS Strix but the huge turn off was the colour gamut that it offered. The laptop was almost perfect until I find out that the colour gamut was only 62.5% unless you pay an extra MYR2k+ ($480 ish) and it was just totally not worth it. I plan to use it for graphics + 3D work and colours are the top of my priority here. I'm eyeing on the Legion 5 Pro rn and the specs I'm looking at is only around $1270 (for the 3060) and $1450 ish (for the 3070 config) which I'm more satisfied about with the price imo
could you give me the link of the lenovo legion 5 pro rtx 3070 please ???
Check at Walmart online
If u go Walmart online it has it for 1400
The Scar has more RGB, so obviously the Scar is faster
conclusion: Legion wins
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beli bang
and it costs much less, at least in the UK
@@radofjc8242 in poland scar 15 with r9 3070 1tb cost less on 100$ vs legion 7 with r7 3070 500gb ssd
@@radofjc8242 legion costs more in Taiwan
I’m by no means a techie, so his videos have really helped me in my laptop search. Even after I buy my laptop I’m going to continue subscribing. Thanks for the info and the humor!
If the Scar has more RGB then it should have more framerate right? How does this happen?
The problem is due to the brightness, which is the most important factor along with color cycle speed. It sometimes helps performance to put a military grade flashlight inside the keyboard, the extra light will allow higher fps
@@feedmatrix10 oh I see
It could be because the Scar doesn't have them at the right places. If Asus adds RGB even to the air vents, then it will surely perform better than Legion.
@@MaazAhmed legion got them rgb-cooling power. What's next? Maybe they need RGB screen
Only if you turn red. Obviously Jarrod didn't switch to the red mode and used all colors instead. Those who are colorful are weak.
I have to say I bought the Legion it's so well built and much cheaper than the equivalent Razer. It's my first lenovo very impressed with it.
Can't wait to dump my terrible Razer and try the Lenovo
what about battery life?
@@stevenrizzo6221Lenovo the best
Hey Jarrod again great work!, will there be an Intel 11gen Legion vs Ryzen Legion comparison btw
Thank you So much. I have been waiting for this compression. Thank again for the nice presentation
Perfect comparison video! Both these machines are great and at the end of the day, the decision comes down to which features you value more. Availability and when you need the laptop is the next thing to keep in mind, in my case, there is no information about when the Legion 7 will be coming out and the Scar 15 is available to purchase and so I'll be going with that. Great video as always!
i can assure you that the asus wont disappoint you my guy
@@YunethAlwis in poland scar 15 r9 3070 1tb ssd cost less 100$ vs legion 7 r7 3070 500gb ssd, what will be u buy in this case?
@@user-ry8qv1mx5s the scar as it has good specs for a cheaper price
I just watch these vids with the knowledge I can't get them. Damn the legion looking fine! 😍😩
I love ASUS after having my Zephyrus g15 but i saw this title and had to watch. I agree with your personal choice for the Lenovo, despite HEAVILY looing into the scar series.
Oh my gosh! thank you, Jarrod. Needed this!
Great video, thanks mate!! I have been taking a closer look at the Scar 15 recently, so this super helpful to have!! :D :D
As much as I want the Legion 7 it has one fatal flaw that I just can't get past..."Out of stock", or "coming soon" depending on where you look.
In your experience, how much time is normal for waiting restock?:( id like to buy the legion 7 to replace my 10 years old laptop, is getting old / slow but man im scared of not being able to buy a legion 7 relatively soon
I was really wanting this video and you suddenly updated
Thank you for this review/side by side comparison... i am currently looking for a gaming laptop and i had already narrowed it down to either Lenovo Legion 7 or asus scar 15 :)
I have the Asus Strix Scar 17. If Legion 7 was released earlier, I would definitely go for the Legion 7, definitely a no brainer decision. Why? Higher GPU limit, MUX switch, has a camera, metal chassis, better temps. Strix Scar's only sole advantage is the optical mechanical keyboard and nothing else.
I picked up the Strip 17 with 360hz FHD screen ryzen 5900 Rtx 3080 . Beast of a machine.
@@xruud24 legion7 has a more business design
@@xruud24 Yeah, if you turn off the rgb light, nobody will think it is a gaming laptop
IDK what the point in buying a laptop that looks like a generic knock off made in China for China product. They charging Louboutin sneaker money just to have you lookin like you're sporting Payless sneakers. 😂
@@xruud24 The legion laptop does. I would have went with that one if it wasn't looking like my grandma bought it for me off of HSN.
in love with your channel and your voice and your closeup look to laptops ❤❤❤❤❤
Thank you so mutch for this rewiew, I was waiting for this ! Now I know what will be my future gaming laptop (going for Lenovo). The only thing I don’t understand is when the new Lenovo legion will come out ?
It's out, but be prepared to it being sold out asap. beautiful pc, have it here.
@@dotcom2113 I know but there’s not a lot of people buying it because they don’t know the brand, the most part of the person goes for brand like asus msi and others but this is the gaming laptop that have god components. Just want to know a date because I’m in Europe
@@GianmaaYT I'm living in asia and here it was sold out within 24 hours.
@@dotcom2113 wow that’s nice here in Europe a lot of person don’t know this brand maybe if they watching this video they will find out that this Pc is an absolute beast
What's much you prefer legion 5 or 7
Thankyou for your Hardwork and awesome Laptop review Jarrod
Thank you bro most awaited video
@Jarrod'sTech Impressive video this is very useful video i have seen it clears that what laptop i have to choose and for what reasons both are great according to users need .. and thabks for making the comperison between these two laptops
Thanks for including a blurb for Linux compatibility!! Great comparison!
Great review. Just remember that on Optimus-equipped devices, if you use an external monitor through the USB-C port, you'll squeeze all the juice out of that GPU. That's why Lenovo performs so much better in games here. It should perform better due to the increased W limit, but marginally. USB-C external display will get you the extra.
This is definitely true, although it's nice to have the option to disable Optimus even if you don't have an external screen.
Great overview, thank you.
@Jarrod'sTech thanks bro for the comparison... This video helps me alot for choosing oelver these laptop..
Thank you for a great video Jarrod
Seems like a high power limit 3070 with a ryzen 7 is the sweet spot to me
I'd like to see the price difference between r7 and r9 with a 3070. Alienware only charges $100 for the r9 if you're getting the 3070 m15 r5. At 5% of the overall cost of the machine, I think that's a pretty good deal.
Another thorough comparison👌🏼 Thanks Jarrod! Definitely made my decision easier.
I knew the Legion 7 will beat the Scar but now I know by how much 🤣
You've got me sold and I can't even throw my money yet. Keep up the excellent videos!
Hi Jarrod thanks for this comparison. We are also looking forward to gaming fps comparison between i7-11800H and Ryzen 7 5800H.
Great Video jarrod. Greatings from germany
I wanted to go for the Lenovo , but it wasn't released at the time and I needed a laptop for college, so ya RIP.
Well at least I think the scar looks better imo and I like the keyboard.
Newer laptops will come out with better specs. At the very least the Scar will still look cool regardless. 💯
Excellent, can you do review on new Alienware x17
I plan to if I'm able to get my hands on one.
Your reviews are the best ❤️
thanks Jarrod, I had the scar 15 max config for about 3-4 months and its pretty good I even bought an external monitor (34 inch ultrawide wqhd 165hz) and its preforming even better.
only down sides: no camera (but it comes with an external one) and the biggest one is that stupid mux switch that causes so much trouble (a lot of apps think that you only have the built in graphics and doesn't recognize or use the powerful 3080).
thanks for the awesome videos :)
Great video mate!
Waiting for the round up of 3060 reviews! 👀
Thx for the review. Been impatiently waiting for this Lenovo. Where do I get one of those nice glowing plug thingys... is that an HDMI cord?
*Lenovo Legion 7 looks cleaner and performance better....Once again Lenovo Legion 7 for the WIN again..!!*
What a great review!
Great video as always! Also, can you do a review on the new 2021 G14?
Jarrod, you can tell I've been watching too many of your video's. 10:53 is showing/listing the wrong device. It shows the Legion but lists the Scar. Just a heads up. Thanks for the detailed vids 👍
The Battle between the two 2021 Ryzen Gaming Laptops Titans we were all waiting for. Big up !
I've watched this video like three times and still can't make a clear choice... better screen & ~10% better performance across the board on the Legion, but better keyboard on Asus, as well as a more interesting design (for me at least... but then again, I associate the Lenovo style so strongly with work)
Thank you for checking Linux!
The previous generation Legion 7i (mine is i7 10875h, 2080 Super) has issues with sound and Linux as well. Lenovo seems entirely uninterested in fixing this and it's already been reported that this new model has the same issue. It's very frustrating as I want a powerful, (mostly) professional looking laptop that can also game when the mood strikes me. I'm in Linux at least 93% of the time.
I understand that this isn't a Linux supported laptop, but there's nothing stopping them from releasing drivers or providing documentation so someone else can address this. I've been using Linux since the 90's and otherwise I don't need any other support. Everything else works great under Linux including g-sync when optimus is disabled.
I would have returned this laptop in the 30 day window had I known this would be an ongoing issue (I bought mine in August of 2020).
Unfortunately, one of my hinges broke a few days ago. This seems to be a common problem with the older Legion 7 and sounds like it's probably fixed with the newest models. Just waiting for ultimate support to get the parts and come to my house to repair my laptop on the spot.
Maybe I can have the tech disconnect the annoying LED on the Legion logo on the back of the lid (seen in this video). It pulses while the laptop is asleep and can annoy me when I'm trying to sleep. Or I could just put electrical tape on it. :p
But u can turn off the back light with simple fn+u.
Hey Jarrod, will you do an Alienware M15 R5 review? This time it actually looks like a good competitor for the price.
2:16 Ahaan jokesss 🤣🤣🔥
Winn 🔥🔥🤣
Lenovo has become a winner in laptops... I still doubt the aftersales... Try to stress on after sales as well , buying a good laptop doesnt make ang sense unless the aftersales isnt reliable...
Hey Jarrod, got a quick question.
Is it time I need to upgrade my laptop? The only games I play is overwatch on high/ultra settings and programs such as SPSS and MS Project and millions of chrome tabs and MS Word for never ending essays and reports.
Current set up: Acer nitro 5 (2019 I think)
Intel i7
16gb ram (ram is upgradeable to 32gb if I decide to download more)
500gb SSD primary
1TB SSD secondary (installed myself)
GTX 1660Ti
The fans are getting quick "noisey" at times and temps reach around 50 -60 degrees delicious, even when I'm just writing out essays with 10+ chrome tabs,. When gaming overwatch, my temperature maxes around 80 - 83 degree Celsius, when weather is room temp. I changed the thermal paste about a year ago and I even under volted, which I found the most useful as before I was sitting around 83-90 degrees celcius. I know I've only had the laptop for roughly 2 years but for me I find those temperatures quite high for such tasks and application
Generally it's time to upgrade if what you're using isn't getting you by anymore. That said those specs should still handle those tasks no problem, so probably no need on upgrading. Those temperatures are quite low when under load and not worth worrying about.
Ordered a Legion 7. Wondering when it will show up. How do you guys protect the screens? Paste tempered glass?
what you ordered one already!, which country bruh ?
@@eyadmubarak9936 Singapore. Ships on 31 Aug apparently...
@@jd5787 OMG, still more 3 month to come! sad sad news, i'm eager to have one
Thanks to this video I got the legion 7 🤟 0 regrets, thanks man your videos are amazing
PLEASE DO MORE COMPARISONS !!! 😍
Those 3D mark scores look like a 2080ti/3070. That’s fantastic but begs the question of why theses laptop screens are not high resolution. Looks like your gaming benchmarks are heavily cpu bound Jarrod. Anyways thanks for the best laptop reviews period.
Both laptops are neck and neck in terms of performance (difference of 1 to 2 fps) when you bypass optimus on the scar 15 by connecting it to a external monitor...that is interesting considering the legion has a 150 watt 3080 🤔...but the Scar 15 still held its own against it even with a 130w 3080...i didn't expect that kind of a performance boost by disabling optimus on the scar 15...so basically bypassing optimus is the key...asus should have just added a mux switch on the scar 15
I guess 130W is the limit when either the CPU becomes the bottleneck or the games are simply run in too low resolution. It would probably be a different picture running in 2K or 4K.
Great video, but I have a question. The keyboard on the scar 15 is the same on scar 17? I mean the keyboard's sound
Awesome review man 💯💯
Do you think that asus will add mux switch to laptops next year? I want to buy g15 or legion 5 pro but cant deside. Iam probably going to buy it some time after christmas. I dont think that There are better mid range laptops than these two. Also i like your videos. You really helped me.
Bravo! Bravo! Great review
Thank you kindly!
Hope you can review the MSI GP66 i7-11800H RTX 3070. Bought my Scar 2 RTX 2060 based on your reviews. Thanks!
It's so cute how he keeps reviewing these laptops as if people can actually see buy them. I ordered an Asus Strix G15 (3070) from XOTIC PC back in April. The ETA for delivery was listed as May, but it recently changed to August.
It seems like my brand new laptop will be outdated before it even ships. At least they already have my money and won't answer the phone when I call for any information.
looooooooooool, don't order something wont be shipped within 1 week window, it big no no for now a days fast changes, your laptop lost of it value already
Don't know about your country, but in Europe and the USA, the 2021 Scar 15 was available back in February...
I was going to wait for this year Legion laptop, but they took too long for me to wait for release and i really need a laptop replacement.
In the end, i managed to find and buy ROG Strix G17 and still enjoy using it now.
How’s the thermal?
17 inch too big
@@eyadmubarak9936It’s perfect for me cuz I hardly travel anywhere
Hey Jarrod, when are you bringing rtx 3050?
this may be unrelated, but I CANNoT WAIT FOR THE LEGION 7 PRO to be released in the states (also good luck getting one). It was a miracle to find a local shop had the 2021 Scar 17 (Ryzen 9 , 3080, 32gb, 2TB) in stock. They have it for $2999 and i reserved one. Im going to pick it up today. But if the Legion 7 pro drops in USA the next two weeks: i will be returning the scar if i get a chance to obtain the legion.
Also for anyone looking at the price tags or on the fence about building a desktop, its going to cost roughly the same, only THESE THINGS ARE PORTABLE.
This is my perspective as a content creator who works with CAD/rendering/animation, video/photo editing, with multiple programs running (including chrome 😂).. that being said the legion 7 and scar 17 are absolutely STACKED for designers / content creators. Another point I'd like to make:
Before deciding on a 3080, i was only looking at the 3070 laptops because price range. Then i realized some of my work is far more intense then video games, not to mention the 3070 is only 8gb vram and The mobile 3080 is offered in 8gb or 16gb VRAM. IMO youd be a fool not to pay the extra coin for the 16gb. sure the prices will drop..next year. Normally most other brands (Alienware for example) will try to sell something like this for 4000-5000+ usd... So if you're a gamer then maybe I would suggest building a desktop or buying some older tech as the prices drop.
As for the scar 17, im not gonna pinch overinflated pennies. I know it will be enough power for my applications, the only gaming i do is emulators. Im not concerned about the MUX or FPS because i heard there is some sort of manual mode. The HDMI issue and SD slot is kinda annoying but not a dealbreaker. Also i never used the webcam on my 8 year old IdeaPad but im a tiny bit bummed it doesn't have one. The legion 7 pro and scar 17 are the only options if you want to support AMD + 3080 with 32gb+ RAM and you need the numerical keypad
Awesome review 👍
Hi jarrod, great review, i got asus scar 15 3080. Do you think asus will release 150w vbios update for 2021 version ? I saw in techpowerup there is asus vbios powerlimit 150w, but not sure if i want to flash it, do you think if the same asus vbios, the port like hdmi and usb c dp still works if i flash it ?
Thanks
I got stuck between these two devices... cant decide which to buy...
There is something I want to mention. Metal body has this feature. It emits heat and eventually laptop gets cooler faster. but if your hands on it they burn as a result. but if you are going to use an external keyboards that wont be an issue and metal body wins.
But plastic body traps heat inside so your hands will feel less of heat. if you are going to play games w/o a ext. keyboard, asus is better and also it has a cool mech. keyboard.
"to ensure privacy while you.. ehmm.. Whatch my video" Jarrod you're number 1!! I can't stop laughing!!
I’m wondering if Asus is not applying the liquid metal properly at the factory because I observed high idle temperatures as well in a Zephyrus G15. It would sit over 50C in silent mode while my 8-core Intel-based Dell XPS 17 would be at least 10 degrees cooler under identical conditions.
Hi Jarrod. Had you even ran a raid0 on these laptops?
I have a ROG G17 2021, and would like to have 2x ssds in raid0, I had seen an video showing no performance gain, according to him, due to the MB design (that case was a Dell).
I wonder if that limitation goes beyong Dell`s, if you have available for test, I would like to see more, specially in Ryzen 5000's laptops. Thank you very much.
Hey Jarrod is the scar the same in software and features as Strix? So when u review it we can expect the same or ?
Yeah, same shameless no-MUX across all the Asus 2021 line-up (bar 1 or 2 Intel Tigerlake future products). Keep afar from those if you define yourself a gamer.
Btw strix runs kinda hot for g15 and is like just bad according to dave2Ds discord server suggestions that’s what I’m said
Bought Scar 17 with Ryzen 9 and 3070 2 months ago and I love it. Btw, it easy to set 3070 to be the main card.
How much it cost you???
@@arit1893 2250e which is 2670$ and super cheap for laptops (with specs like these) in my country.
@@saska2535 Great.... Is your laptop 1440p??? And any overheating issues like feeling hot on keyboard while gaming???
@@arit1893 Yeah it's 1440p and it looks great once you tone down saturation set by AMD in Radeon software. It can get a bit hot, but still optimal - not above 85 degrees Celsius. Also, depends on fan settings, of course. I don't play games on it but I am a game developer so I "abuse" hardware a lot in game engine, however I don't hold my hands on keyboard (WASD area) much, so I can't really say if it gets too hot for gamers. I play on desktop :)
@@saska2535 thanks
Jarrod can you do a laptop tier list based on the wattage of the GPU and their relative performance instead of model numbers?
Lenovo Legions anyday! i love the Lenovo Legion5 it gets the job done with great fps and Legion 7 is even better but a bit more expensive
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Great comparison 😜
The scar 15 is a silent beast, just like agent 47
@goatmessi8491w
legion 7 vs scar 17 is the appropriate match to compare, IMO however i was still interested to check this content...
Scar 17 doesn't bring anything to the table compared to the Scar 15 (I know as I owned one) besides the screen.
Thermals aren't even really better. It seems Asus uses the same thermal system on both.
Good evening! Sir Jarrod, I’m Jason from Philippines, newbie about laptop. I just want to ask some tips or things to do that you can recommend to me on using my New laptop. I will also raise some questions about my Legion 5. I’m still not unbox it because I don’t know what’s first thing to do and honestly, I’m actually panicking. I can’t find any good tutorial on what things to do first when I open it.
1. Are we making system image?
2. Bios?
3. Is anti-virus needed? Because on store it says that windows defender can do the job. But if it’s still needed, what can you recommend?
4. Empire points?
5. How can you prolong the battery life of legion? Can I full charge the laptop after use or even if not?
6. What software or apps you would recommend I should install?
These questions I get from other viewers but still not complete. I will be happy if you will give your “STEP-BY-STEP” Tutorial on the things I should do as I use my new laptop.
Lenovo Legion 5 Gaming Laptop, 15.6" FHD IPS 300Nits 144Hz, AMD Ryzen 7 4800H, GeForce RTX 2060 6GB GDDR6, Windows 10, 16GB Memory, 512GB PCIe SSD
Thanks for answering! Will be much appreciated Sir!
Legion 7 seems premium, clear win.
Not that I disagree but apple products also look "premium" and we all know how "good" they are
@@bahadrbaserkok3335 they are fucking awesome, did u use any of the new m1 products ?
Ahahahah, clear win ? Bad speakers, worse keyboard, worse display (for gaming)
@@bahadrbaserkok3335 yo, im talking about scar vs legion build quality, scar looks like some kids lappy..
Also the Performance and Cooling results are way better in Legion lineup.
If im putting my money to buy one of these, Legion is the way to go just as Jarrod says...
@@maylwer2500 i see you play games with laptop speakers, so sad.
What laptop would you recommend for all around performance? I will be mainly performing content creation but am an avid gamer, budget is not a problem, and I need something powerful but versatile. I feel like you'd recommend the legion 7 even with the brick a/c adapter but I just want to see your thoughts, I'm getting antsy waiting for legion 7 while the legion 5 dropped and is available lol.
Honestly, if you're doing some content creation, you'll definitely want that nice 16" 16:10 1600p screen. Feels weird and constrained to go back to 1080p 16:9 after that !
Are Lenovo/Corsair likely to fix the RGB power draw issues in the future with a software update?
I'd like to think yes, but I'm going to say probably not given it's been an issue for a year now.
Alienware m17 r4 3080 165w vs lenovo legion 7 vs msi GE76 pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee...
Legion 7 is a good buy
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*IF I CAN BUY ONE*
Are you going to make a review about the asus tuf F15?
thanks for showing dgpu only tests.
You have some of the best reviews and comparisons on RUclips! I really wish you stop neglecting Alienware though /: I'd love to see how my m17 r4 stacks up against the competition
I'm not neglecting Alienware, they just rarely get sent to me. Hoping to get more this year.
@@JarrodsTech Wow, thanks for the reply!! So Alienware is actually neglecting you! I had it backwards 😂. I hope they send you the new X17 being revealed on June 1st. Fingers crossed 🤞🏽
I have the Scar 15 with WQHD 100% DCI-P3 screen, Legion is a slightly better package but has only 100% sRGB that's why I went with the Asus.
I'm waiting for Legion 7 gen 7 with a micro led screen and that is going to be the best laptop on the market and my new machine.
Excellent. I got the scar, a couple of months ago, I am happy to see it fit my use case marginally better than the legion, tho I use Linux a lot, so it is really a mixed bag. I opted for the 1440p panel, and it is so beautiful, that I am very happy with it. Thanks for the comparison, it helped me settle my mind
in poland scar 15 r9 3070 1tb ssd cost less 100$ vs legion 7 r7 3070 500gb ssd, what will be u buy in this case?
@@user-ry8qv1mx5s Ryzen 9 and 1 TB vs Ryzen 7 and 512gb? What is the monitor difference? And the Asus, even without the mux bypass, might be a better deal. Especially if you are talking about the 1440p 144hz monitor... If both are 1080p, I would consider the legion, tho that price difference, really makes it difficult to decide
@@marcm. 300 hz 1080 on scar
so hard to choose one of them
@@user-ry8qv1mx5s is it online or in a physical store? If a physical store, go and look at them, use the keyboard... If online only, then it really depends on your use case. Dual usage? Work/Games? How are you likely to use the laptop?
more rgb less frame rate. scar ftw.
Legion 7 is not available in my country now...so choosing scar 15 is a good decision or should i look into other laptops?
You have the ge raider series from MSI
So happy to have the SCAR 15, even more when i got it just for 999 but those Idle temps from the Legion are so hard to ignore 😭
really i was shocked by the idle temps differences!, i was like no way!
I admit it's a plus, but do you really use your computer at Idle ?
@@macadamia8662 Rather, I prefer a computer that doesn't reach high temps with light tasks. Ths Scar 15 has good temps while doing heavy stuff, but when just browsing or something like that it gets on temperatures close to the same i have when gaming
@@clemdawn2037 Nope.
I had an Asus Scar 17, supposed to have even better thermals than the Scar 15 (although not even by a noticeable amount), and I can tell you from experience that the Asus ran much hotter in nearly all light and heavy tasks, CPU and GPU wise, and that was with a manual FAN curve the Lenovo does not even offer.
Using a laptop IDLE is only when you don't have applications running, except those from the system and the devices, including the services.