“When You Reached Out, It Was Extra Special” - John Mulaney Talks Relapse and Recovery with Stephen
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2023
- In this EXTENDED INTERVIEW, comedian John Mulaney thanks Stephen Colbert for the support and encouragement our host provided during an incredibly challenging time. The affection these two performers have for each other is evident as Mulaney tells Colbert what he learned about himself in recovery, how happy his life is now, and what he did to convince David Byrne to score his new comedy album, “Baby J.” #Colbert #JohnMulaney #BabyJ #StandUpComedy
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Stephen Colbert brings his signature satire and comedy to THE LATE SHOW with STEPHEN COLBERT, the #1 show in late night, where he talks with an eclectic mix of guests about what is new and relevant in the worlds of politics, entertainment, business, music, technology and more. Featuring bandleader Louis Cato and “THE LATE SHOW band,” the Peabody Award-winning and Emmy Award-nominated show is broadcast from the historic Ed Sullivan Theater. Stephen Colbert took over as host, executive producer and writer of THE LATE SHOW on Sept. 8, 2015. 
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I love that Stephen can recite lines from classic literature, plays, and poems so casually. If he hadn't taken the path he took, I would have loved to have had him as a professor.
Or a youth pastor
He was a Sunday school teacher for years.
He’d be the best teacher ever
Great point, @kaspinet. I can definitely see Stephen as a great professor.
Porter-Gaud School alumni, Charleston, SC!
When Stephen retires I just want a podcast of him taking philosophical deep dives with his friends. This was fantastic.
Hooooly shit that's amazing.
Came here to make this exact comment.
When he gave his speech at Jon Stewart’s Mark Twain award presentstion, he said something along the lines of: It’s rare to have a friendship like this in comedy. It’s even more rare that we haven’t turned it into a podcast!
I think you should listen to his interview in Paul Giamatti’s podcast ‘The Chinwag’. They talked so much that they had to split it in two episodes. It’s interesting and profound in many ways.
that never occurred to me but now that you've said it, I so hope it happens!! I would listen to every episode.
"My greatest fear is that I don't have an ethical core."
What a fascinating and profound and relatable concession from Colbert.
Concession is a great word for it. I'll be the first to criticize Stephen Colbert and so when he said that, for one second I thought Ah HA you're right to have that fear! This was immediately followed by a bit of awe. Like wow it took some real stones to say that on national television and display a level of honesty that I never could. He earned back a lot of my respect with that.
its such a weird thought but god i can't wait for him to retire from late night and start a nature show or a LotR podcast or something
@@peteshap1 I’m 100% on board for Stephen’s LOTR podcast.
Also, a thought unique to people with ethical cores.
Whish hr fi a ywirl morr...
Stephen is so grounded and SANE as a person. This interview is similar to the conversation he had with Anderson Cooper about death and grieving. Stephen could have a whole career just talking with people about the meaning of life. Whether he is talking about grief or LOTR, the insights and intelligence he brings to a conversation are mesmerizing.
And to know and really see all his depth and breadth talent and other gifts! We are blessed with Stephen! 🙏🏻💙🎉❗️
@@audreywellham2413Yes we are! ❤
That's so funny you thought of the Anderson Cooper interview watching this, I had the exact same thought!!
You are right. He once had Jim Gaffigan on his program. What an amazing show thst was that night.
Also his talk with Andrew Garfield is very good on the subject! It’ll make you cry though
This is a real human interaction, from the heart.
Their enjoyment was almost palpable. I loved it.
Yes!
I remember from another interview that Stephen and John Mulaney not only were both raised Catholic, but both took confirmation names that were the name of a brother in the family who had died. So I think Stephen feels like John will understand things other people don't and that shows up in what they talk about.
Not an interview, but wide ranging philosophical conversation between two friends. Authentic, quick, philosophical, grounded, moral compass--what more could you want in a friend?
Absolutely caught me off guard, was expecting light banter and instead we get a deep philosophical and personal conversation about religion between two friends.
I think they're essentially bonding over the concept of "Catholic Guilt". Feelings of inferiority/insecurity and being unworthy of others' time, DESPITE them both being rich and successful.
@@kenster8270they really hit it off sense their first interview. My ass already decided to go back to aa either Monday or after a detox stint (still gotta go vote, big year in Ohio), so I'm glad this popped up
@@0o0misha0o0Did you end up going to AA or rehab? I really hope you did and that you’re better.
Both John and Stephen are such special people. Their self-awareness, honesty and intelligence is something to strive for. What an awesome conversation.
You can really feel that respect when John said, "That's a great question".
Most times, Steven would've said, "I know"! 😂😂
This is great in so many ways. MEN talking about their innermost fears is rare. It was genuine, sincere, and even a little awkward at times. But that made it REAL. Thank you both!
i missed it what was that fear....
@@nadiamccall4311 The fear of "going with the crowd" when push came to shove. The fear that the part of one's self that he believes is "good" and "moral," will not be what comes forth. That's what I took as the fear. :)
I am loving how more and more these days men are talking like this. I just listened to a podcast episode with John Mulaney and Theo Von, and the detail they got into about how they think their childhoods might have influenced their drug addiction was so hopeful for me (a woman who is practically a tea totaller, never smoked, etc) it's just so nice seeing men acknowledge that the strongest and most logical thing anyone can do is be brave enough to face your weaknesses and admit that you are an emotional being (whether you want to be or not, your brain literally produces the neurochemicals that make emotions happen, denying it is illogical).
I'm so proud of John and stephen and any man that can make progress towards putting the macho-stereotype behind them.
@steggopotamus I have a great group of friends where we'll just chat like often on call. It's natural and it really helps working through your shit openly with people. Keeps everyone more grounded too
Anderson Cooper did a great conversational interview with Stephen on grief. Anderson cried.
John is a wonderful example of why we should never devalue people struggling with mental health issues. His willingness to be both candid and humorous about his issues lends a credibility to his words that border on art.
If every addict (former or otherwise) was articulate...
One reason why I love Colbert is his ability and willingness to dive deep into real human subjects without having to make a joke out of it. There’s so much depth and substance that helps to highlight all the fun he has on the show. Such a refreshing presence on TV these days.
Totally agree, he’s not eager about rushing to a more fun or mainstream topic or turning everything into something lighter, it’s so refreshing
What a privilege to listen in on a conversation between these two engrossing human beings who shared their vulnerabilities not only with each other, but with the rest of us. How could we not love them more than we already did?
Right though? Their thoughts on religion is truly mesmerizing. As a former Catholic myself, I can relate with the fears they hold.
Oh John. You got me teary-eyed with "If he's good, I'm good".
That's the whole point of parenting....
This was such a genuinely awesome conversation.
Check out their other interviews. They always go deep. It's a great connection they share.
you can tell when Stephen is interviewing a close friend when the interview goes like that. Love to see it
@@joejazwinski8873He slips intellectual jokes in all the time, and they do have the same taste. Stephen said it was about the south then Thomas More, so Catholicism and South Carolina, and Catholic families must be Venn Diagram from a to z in their heads, or a Zen Diagram.
I hope so I am excited. Just got here hes sitting down.
I know, right! I feel like it was so deep they could have used a therapist to make the conversation even more amazing!
What a nerdy convo on national television. It’s great seeing John sober and happy and confident enough to have in depth conversations about his troubles and experiences!
That's what I was thinking! I don't get this show where I live so I'm not familiar with the host, but I would've thought that they'd try and keep the conversation at a level where most people could keep up, but it seems like they're so comfortable with each other that they just did their own thing regardless of the audience. Was fascinating and very entertaining.
Worrying if you have an ethical core is a good indication you have one Stephen.
john's reaction to "set yourself on fire and ran into traffic" is the best shit. just the processing pause, and the smooth transition into laughing ridiculously hard
It’s been too long since I’ve had new Mulaney content to tide me over
Nothing tops the horse in the hospital for me! 😂😂😂😂😂
Exactly what I was thinking!!!
Did you listen to Theo Von and Conan podcasts with John
@@ellengrace4609 Totally agree!! Absoultely brilliant analogy John came up with there.
Well...that, I do believe, was the best interview I've ever seen. So real, raw. I really enjoyed it.
He loves to go raw in Asians lol
Do go back and watch their last interview. Equally poignant and when John was in a different place in life. Very inquisitive and deep.
Another great one is Stephen’s interview about life and death with Anderson Cooper. Give that a watch! Stephen is the best interview ever!
Seth Meyers and John both sat down for a great interview after his stint in rehab.
Yes. It was deep. Loved it!
The honesty that Mulaney has about his addiction and recovery is so important, especially given that he was successful while using but still realized that it was making his life worse. It's far too easy for folks to think "I'm making tons of money and everyone loves me, why change?" but Mulaney had the courage and insight to recognize he was getting in his own way. I wish the same for everyone who faces the same struggles.
Well said!
Yes, but he also had some help from a bunch of friends who staged an intervention.
THIS. This is so well said. Thanks for sharing.❤
Nobody does it alone; there's a reason John said to Stephen that it mattered that Stephen reached out@@eponymousIme
Hear, hear
I’m so happy that he made it through his drug ordeal and has found a great new life I’d hate to have lost such talent , and I think it’s a lot due to the fact that he has such solid friends , friends that cared and stood behind him .. thank you Stephen for being one of those friends 🙏💚
He hasn't made it through an ordeal. He will be in recovery for the rest of his life.
@@peterharris8471how can you say that he hasn't been through an ordeal?
@@BlueManIan He DID make it through an ordeal, but addiction is a life long battle after you stop and many fall back in. I think peter meant it ain't over and done.
I'm happy for John, but no one mentions his wife that was ditched after she put up with all his drug BS.
Ditching his wife for Olivia Munn as soon as he got clean.
That's a bitch ass move.
@@toobasaurus23 it's not at all surprising that part of his recovery was leaving his codependent relationship.
John and I have basically gotten sober at the same time so I am always intently following that story whenever it's on latenight
Congratulations!!! ❤
God bless you, brother Lazarus.
Me too actually. That's why I connect with Mulaney so much. We got sober around the same time and I really like his perspective on life.
Good for you!
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This is exactly what a talk show SHOULD be. Good conversations that can weave in and out between two people who have a connection with each other, sharing their thoughts and dreams and fears. Sooooo fascinating, and I'm glad they played it all here, since there wasn't any huge laugh out loud viral moments. Wonderful stuff!
Such a wonderful example of REAL men sharing emotions, fears, thoughts. No alpha crap, so engaging and authentic.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the best and classiest Colbert guests always acknowledge the band, and Mr Mulaney did not disappoint. God love him, I wish him continued success in his recovery, he's a great dude.
Jon has gained a certain humility that makes him even more lovable. Been praying for him a long time and will continue.
What a wonderful interview. I'd love to see Stephen do that more often. And kudos to John for his recovery.
I love how every time John Mulaney walks into Steven's Colbert studio, the place automatically turns into a psychologist
"I always want to play roles that publically accuse me of the things I privately accuse myself of." 💛💛 how introspective!!!
I love how much these two really like each other.
As someone who works in chaplaincy -- Stephen Colbert reminds me of how a chaplain approaches conversation sometimes
This is one of the best interviews I’ve ever seen. You can tell they are true friends by how safe they are with each other. They share real stuff here
I love when Colbert shows his intellect, without even trying or knowing that he is doing it. Beautiful man
Loved all the introspection from John and Stephen. They connect like old friends.
"A Man for All Seasons" is one of my favorite plays, and I love this intelligent conversation.
mine too, and so do I
This is perhaps the healthiest and most genuine I've seen John in a very long time. Congratulations on the sobriety, your young small family and performing genuinely yet hilariously.
When John starts talking about his son it’s the most wholesome thing ever. How much he genuinely loves him and finds him cool,funny,interesting, is so cute
It's really sweet that all these comedians care so much about Baby J... they seem to have really rallied around him and seem very protective of him. Nice to see
that whole "I am at my core a happy person and it's okay to protect that" sounds like something from the therapy scene in a very special episode...
Stephen can get super deep, like philosophical, religion, the whole deal. Not many late-night hosts will do that. It's all the topics of the day, and jokes, and new movies or music coming out. Even the conversations around politics- those might sometimes get intense and real. But seldom will they get personal. Few hosts actually bare themselves on air as much as Stephen does. And it shows how much he trusts the guest, to get that deep- he doesn't do it with everybody. People will affectionately give him grief for his deep, deep love of Tolkien, but there again, he is super honest and up-front and unashamed about it. Same thing with his religious and philosophical views, and self-insights. He feels deeply, and he is honest with himself, and his guest, and the studio audience, and the world audience, about it. I have tremendous respect for the man.
I've never heard anything bad about his home life. His wife Evie seems to genuinely adore him; they adore each other. His kids seemed game to help out during the pandemic, and he speaks of them glowingly. I often wonder about the families of famous people; how they handle the spotlight, or sharing so much of their loved one with the rest of the world. He seems to have a healthy relationship to his fame, as does his family. I hope that is truly as true as it seems to be.
Him and Conan, most wholesome seeming talk show hosts. Would be a sad day if anything bad came out about them
Love Seth Meyers this way, too. Has told male friends/guests he loves them on air. Love seeing these guys reclaiming affection and vulnerability for men.
I think one of the best interviews is with Christoph Waltz, where he does exactly that.
keanu takes the Colbert Questionert. was my favorite SC interview🥰
11:00 Stephens ability to quote like this gives me chills.
Stephen is such a kind human. Those who get to call him friend are very fortunate.
I've never seen A Man For All Seasons, but this whole interview was still great. Stephen should never worry about raising the intellectual bar on his show. Don't dumb it down, know your audience. We like silly, but cretins we are not. Thoughtful, heartfelt, LOVE IT!!!
This was an extraordinary conversation by two very astute, authentic people.
I saw John’s first show out of rehab. The whole audience laughed and cried. A really special memory for me. Proud of him.
This made me cry. Two extraordinarily gifted men having the best conversation about so many things that matter ♥️🥹
I absolutely love Stephen and John separately and to watch them together, having this deep conversation, interlaced with humor is beautiful. I am so grateful that John seems like he is doing well.
Stephen's emotional intelligence and ability to communicate gives me comfort and hope
I love this interview! I adore both of these men, and it's really cool to know that they are genuine friends.
This is such an honest and unexpectedly deep and revealing conversation. Hats off especially to Steven for the ability to be so bold, open and earnest.
The bands opening song for him, the melody to “I can see clearly now the rain is gone” is touching.
These two always have such special conversations that are atypical of this setting which is why I'm always excited to see John on the show. Almost anyone Stephen actually knows could fit that description but John and Stephen are both very aware of their own inner feelings and aren't afraid to talk about it which is what makes their conversations unique. Also John isn't afraid to turn it right back onto Stephen and ask him the same question so we end up learning a lot about both of them and it's genuinely interesting and makes you feel like "well if these guys have these thoughts and feelings and open up about them so can I".
God love John! He is one of my absolute fav comedians. Keep up the recovery, and keep being your awesome self!
I love how passionate they are about A Man for All Seasons
This and their interview talking about each others’ anxieties is a real testament to how much they like and admire each other. Even if there are cameras and they’re on a show, they want to get into the deeper, more personal topics.
And looking at how Jon Batiste remarked how Stephen had some deep and ultimately helpful conversations about Jon and his ailing soon-to-be wife really shine light on how caring Stephen is.
Seeing Jon Mulaney and him show gratitude for each other is really beautiful, and some really refreshing authenticity on what’s ultimately a very produced show!
Love when Mulaney is on ANY show but especially this one. They’re kindred spirits.
Always impressed how Stephen can recite random passages at will.
Stephen, simply the fear that you do not have an ethical core ensures that you do. No unethical person worries and measures themselves in this way. You are true.
This was like sitting at the dinner table listening as two friends chatted at home. Lovely. Just lovely
"Do you ever feel like you're bothering me?"
"Yes."
"NEVER."
Instant tears. What a kind and honest exchange. There's probably someone most of us need to have this exact conversation with, whichever seat we are in.
I love Stephen reciting things - he always recites things in an excited way that he gets to share this thing that means so much to him that he memorized it.
I love it when the conversations get deep and no one can look away from the raw fact that the 'famous' interviewee is an actual, complicated individual. ❤ Thank you both for being open and YOU.
This is an astounding conversation between two professional and intellectual peers. With jokes.
This was 5 months ago, and I somehow missed it. But I'm going to say this late anyway. This is the deepest interview I've ever seen on a Stephen show. John brought out so much from himself and Stephen. Definitely a two-fer! Thank you both for your openness.
Impactful, genuine and profound. The interaction of two sweet souls. Thank you gentlemen.
That was deeper than I thought it would be. Rock on! Love it. ❤
This is genuinely one of the best conversations i have ever listened to
This is a perfect example of two men expressing themselves and showing a authentic sense of masculinity with honesty and sincerity.
Much as I love Stephen's interviews, I love these heart to hearts with his real life friends and associates so much more. It feels so real, genuine and uninhibited. I love it.
The deepest and most remarkable interview I’ve ever seen on late night. 👏🏼 👏🏼 How do you see yourself in the eyes of others?
🌿 One of the most delicious shows. I missed Stephan's humor so much it hurt. But I forgot how much I love his introspection, his pulling apart an issue, a book... his own psychology, philosophy, his moral fiber. That search for wisdom is a glorious gift. His quick rejoinder to John's saying he felt if his baby was okay, he'd be okay "& that never goes away" And as a mom of a 35 yr old & a 38 yr old, I can attest to that truth which is something because I often don't feel that old myself - how can my body feel this old but my mind stopped maturing- LOL.
Thank you, Stephen, for being worthy of all that is good & for reminding me that there is sanity, that there is wisdom & compassion - an emotional IQ even if we don't see it very often right now.
BTW Nancy Mace is not a truth teller. The idea that ANYONE sees Jordan as trustworthy is a Santos level lie, even a trump level falsehood. The ones that make your eyes roll back of their own accord. Yes, Nancy you silly POS, our issues with Jordan are just political differences, they have nothing to do with his ignoring that the children entrusted to him as coach were being raped, when they came to -im for help, making him complicit. It has nothing to do with his playing with the adopted rules of committees so his team can win, his being a vile enraged child of a man without one iota of wisdom, kindness or moral standing. Nancy you proved who & what you are with that one sentence.
Addiction is awful and terrifying... it does not discriminate. It doesn't matter how smart, funny, or wonderful you are as a human being. You feel imprisoned and ashamed. It's admirable that he has the courage to talk about it, and he has a friend to talk it through with. Bravo for this interview. (For me, seven days sober following a recent relapse.)
Good luck! Prayers
Stephen: "...set yourself on fire and ran in traffic..."
Me: I understood that reference!
This is the best interview of John Mullaney I've ever seen.
i love this new wave in recent years where talk show hosts and comedians who are all friends just have a genuine conversations instead of promo stuff and i hope this never changes
This interview made me see both of these gentlemen in such a brighter new light
So love John Mulaney.
This is why Colbert is the best.
We so missed you john, so good to have you back to cheer us up.
I'm really glad to see John staying well and thriving, and how supportive everyone is ♡
I always love their conversations.
The story of Sir Thomas Moore is one of the most impactful things I remember learning in highschool (at the time I thought he was insane for putting himself and his family through all of that) and I wish we saw more integrity like that in the people we idolize today.
The amount of love that is present in this conversation is amazing. So beautiful.
This is the best dialogue I've seen in any television show or movie in a long time.
Wonderful conversation. Love John's new look.
Thank you for sharing something so important and not be afraid to say I’m not ok all the time. We love you John. So proud of you in this moment. ❤
We had our first kid a few months before Malcom Mulaney was born. It's kinda neat to hear John's thoughts on parenthood because it's so darn relatable. If the kid is good, I'm good. 100%
Wow, I could listen to these two talk to each other for hours.
I love John! I've seen all of this stand up specials with my son who is now 20 and in college. We still support him and watched baby J together! He has so many fans rooting for him and so proud that he is taking back control of his life. Can't wait for the next stand up, John!
My father taught us if you give charity then you never tell that you did. He helped so many people when they couldn’t afford food when he owned a small rural corner store. We never knew until we found the receipt books. He never made them feel it was charity and that he knew they would pay for the groceries someday. He wanted to let these folks maintain their self-worth. Many bills weren’t paid and some were but we never knew until after his death. We honoured his memory by never mentioning this outside of our own family. I was always proud of my dad but never more so when we learned how kind he was to so many in his own very quiet way. We weren’t well-off but he shared what we had, always. ❤
That’s a wonderful tribute ❤
Wow! This interview slid from light comedy over my morning coffee to deep moral discussion so fast I had to rewind and pay more attention. Colbert never ceases to amaze me.
I watch Stephen all the time, have for years, even back to the Daily Show, but have never commented on a segment -- until this episode. I'm a John Mulaney fan and this interview was phenomenal! Such depth and vulnerability by Stephen as they conversed, such intelligence, was wonderful to experience. With gratitude for Stephen, thank you!
I'm always amazed at how much knowledge Stephen has. Damn that man is smart
We need a lot more of these conversations. And exploring "A Man for All Seasons" is wonderful.
I love when John gets deep like this. He should do a whole podcast like this. Have on guests like Stephen who can go deep as well with him.
I totally understand this. It's more vulnerable to tell three people than thousands of people sitting a bit back and off the stage. They can't ask you questions and you can't typically see if there is judgment on their face.
Wow, I absolutely love this intellectual, well-informed conversation. These two men have my respect.
Downvote.
If only we could all have a friend like Stephen.
Honest and open conversation about things so many of us struggle with… wonderful. The first step to healing is uncovering and getting things out of the darkness (and boy do we need healing).
So great to see John more authentic and chill. He has important and hilarious stories to tell.
Now, this was a conversation, not an interview. I love this so much