Eurovision 2000: Can’t play that song again | Super-cut with animated scoreboard

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  • An edited down version of the Eurovision Song Contest 2000 in Stockholm with a scoreboard using today’s technology. Nothing but a fun lockdown project.
    This edit will give a flavour of the evening (13th May) with Terry Wogan’s commentary. Thank you to Joris Peters for getting in touch and getting me the full Wogan performance - it’s very much appreciated!
    After being pleased to be able to provide Terry, I instantly cut him out of the best opening to a Contest ever. I would have thought it would have been better for the director’s notes to say that commentators shouldn’t speak during it - Wogan rabbiting all the way through rather ruined the effect. The execution of the opening, I read, was a last-minute addition to the show.
    Now, I’ve had to use a slightly sulky title as the copyright owners and 2000 don’t get on. If I left my edit un-clipped, it wouldn’t be seen by 70% of my viewers, and the culprit: the winner. A real shame.
    What’s annoying is that there’s some songs this year which should have been blocked for reasons of exceptional poor quality. I began to think that there were technical issues in Globen - so many performances were vocally flat! That said, the quality of the uploads of 2000 is generally lower, so maybe it’s some VHS wonkiness creeping through.
    I am also annoyed that I wasn’t able to make it to a betting shop in May 2000. Denmark were being offered at 125/1…150/1 at one point in the UK! Perhaps I’m overusing the benefit of hindsight, but a record audience size and an anthemic, genuine performance was always going to be successful, especially when offset by some rather lightweight performances elsewhere. The use of the audience lights and the fake pyrotechnics showed that the Swedish directors felt this was the winner too, I think.
    Going into the Contest, the biggest known star was Nicki French. But that’s where the advantage stopped. An awful running order position, plus a dated song and off-kilter dress sense would send the UK to their worst performance so far. We just didn’t know it could get any worse! I think there’s a few others that missed the boat too, Malta being one - great song…wrong year. I think Norway’s in there too, but fared much better at the hands of the Baltic obsessed televoters.
    Overall though, the production was excellent. Great presenters, and a snappy show - both in duration and look…
    DESIGN AND THE BOARD
    2000 is a personal favourite of mine - mainly because I think we see a scoreboard (and a Contest) that has design at its centre. The logo isn’t a corporate collection of shapes…it’s a mouth - sensual and overbearing in it’s placing and size. Offset by the rigid typeface which is the first to be especially designed for the Contest, it’s a shame it wasn’t adopted as the permanent logo in 2004.
    1998-99 saw a skeuomorphic approach - coins that looked like coins, stars that flew and landed where they needed to be. 2000 was different, not scared to take risks with replacing smooth motion with jolted flashing. The viewer is left to fill a bit of the gap…there’s nothing obvious about it, other than it’s rigidity. The map was bent nearly out of recognition, which meant it was heavily styled, but still useful. Using it dramatically at the beginning of the sequence was a nice touch - I love how the names of the countries transitioned seamlessly from map to scoreboard too.
    It felt like a natural step to evolve the ‘?’ theme used at the beginning and use an inbuilt plugin of Viz Artist that randomises text build up. My board leans heavily on the original but has had a slight rebuild. Unlike all the others, countries don’t move…the text reorders itself to reveal the new entrant to be placed in that slot. Think airport departure boards.
    I certainly went through the same process (I expect) as the 2000 designers. I found a typeface called SchoonSquare (Michiel van Kleef) which felt near to the custom typeface used, but then needed a rounder typeface to offset it…I settled on the beautiful Nurom by The Northern Block.
    TRANSFER NEWS (source: Wiki)
    REL’D for this year were: SLO, BIH, POR, POL, LIT.
    BACK automatically (rel’d in 98): FYROM, FIN, SUI, ROM.
    NOT BACK: GRE, financial reasons. SVK, who would sit out until 2009, dismayed at having to sit out every other year.
    DEBUT: LAT.
    INTERVAL ACT
    Really enjoyable movie/song directed, composed and edited by Johan Söderberg and produced by John Nordling. Apologies for missing them out of the graphic in the video. Class editing and catchy music - worth a watch, sums up that millennium celebration type feeling.
    CREDITS
    Joris Peters for Wogan
    The artful @Mosè Michielin for the highest quality I could find
    Michael Widell on Unsplash for the photo from Stockholm
    Flags: countryflags.com (Cyprus altered).
    All Copyright belongs to SVT, BBC
    00:00 Intro
    05:33 Song super-cut
    23:23 Audio less part
    26:35 Super-cut part 2
    43:08 Interval act
    46:39 Voting intro
    48:14 The reorder board 2000
    1:35:54 Recap, data & reprise
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  • @thereorderboard
    @thereorderboard  3 года назад +29

    A few other things I couldn’t fit in the description:
    - Firstly, the odd bits in the scoreboard. Although the top 3 settle very quickly, the interesting race is mid-table. At one point, during the Norwegian voting, five countries are on 16 points. For some reason, and I haven’t worked out how yet, Germany is awarded 3 points and Malta swaps place. I can only think this is something to do with an animation not firing, but everything else looks correct. If I find out the cause, I’ll let you know.
    - The second odd bit is to do with the CanYouWin function that greys out the countries that can no longer win. I spent most of my Sunday wondering what was wrong with the board during the German voting. Austria is ruled out, but everyone else below them is still in. I think at that point, Austria is doubly disadvantaged because it’s had a vote awarded this round AND still has to cast it’s vote, meaning it has one less chance compared to most of the others below it. The board waits in case the countries below Austria get awarded a 12 and therefore won’t update until the 12 is placed at the end of the round…for Austria the round ended when it got the 2 from Germany.
    - The board also highlighted another oddity during Finland’s vote…Latvia are still in the competition, and are awaiting a 12. I gets it…but then the 12 knocks them out. To my mind, they should have already been discounted if 12 wasn’t enough. I might have to review when the CanYouWin function is run - it hasn’t been a problem up until now, so maybe it’s to do with me tinkering with the build. We get the right result at the end of each round anyway!
    - Aside from my bugs…the pre-Contest Internet polling was way off, wasn’t it! What a great first sign that internet chat rooms might not be where the winner is decided. I put the top five from that poll, as well as the UK odds on the lower thirds. The source, the rather great and fastidious: Eurovision Song Contest 2000 Details (myledbury.co.uk)
    - A nice moment that a 12 being awarded for the host by the Turkish jury is the thing that makes Denmark win.
    - So many lovely bits in the production, especially the postcards, which I thought were artfully produced…the classiest yet (although I think 2001 might pip them). The strongest was the UK one I think, and the Netherlands. I can only assume the spokespeople were urged not to build up their parts? Compared to 1999, the voting is super snappy. The presenters were great, if not a little cheesy at times. The edit of past Contests shown during one of the breaks was wonderful too.
    - I particularly enjoyed the rail cam sliding through the ornaments hanging from the Globen ceiling, very nice touch.
    - I think Turkey developed as my personal favourite through the editing. It’s a shame that they went on to win with something that was more commercial…but then, that’s exactly how they won in 2003. For two years in a row my personal favourites have been in line with French televoters?!
    - I think I would have preferred to have moved the ‘Relegation’ flags (the little arrows) away from the country names. This all came from me using Schoon Square for all text at first, and neatly ‘gridding up’ everything very close to each other. The result was that you couldn’t read much at all…I missed separating everything out a bit more once I adopted Nurom.
    - I’ve folded in the deduction in marks for Croatia for using a male voice in the backing track in Jerusalem. The board now works out Croatia’s relegation position based on them getting 79 points in 1999, not the 118 the voters gave them. This would have no effect on Croatia since the system was about to be chucked anyway.
    - Love that Nicki French felt that the UK’s performance might have been down to us not being in the Euro. The currency was very much the hot political topic in the UK, and the election of 2001 featured it heavily. I love Nicki, mainly because of her great attitude and clear love for the Contest and the experience she had in Stockholm. For Greece, joining the Euro in 2000 was very much going to develop into a more serious problem.
    - Worth noting that the Yugoslav wars were really coming to an end in 2000. Milošević was booted out by the people after opposition leader Ivan Stambolić was murdered…most likely ordered by the President. The revolution would pave the way to Serbia & Montenegro re-joining the international community and, to Eurovision. Especially worth noting here, as it was in Sweden in 1992 that they last competed.
    - The video, with not so much clipping, may appear on another well known video sharing site next week.

    • @moramento22
      @moramento22 3 года назад

      And now people think UK's poor performance is due to Brexit... *massive sigh*

    • @JeSuisRene
      @JeSuisRene 3 года назад +5

      @@moramento22 Yeah, it all went downhill for the UK from 2000...

    • @davidpozo3768
      @davidpozo3768 3 года назад +1

      Indeed it was an excellent show, probably the beggining of ESC as we know it nowdays: big stadium, cheerful audience, modern stage and graphic design... (although 1998 had a bit of all that too). I just missed that year the flags in the scoreboard, so thank you for adding them :)
      And I agree about the logo, I've always loved it because it's simple but meaningful, and what a nice touch was to keep it on stage with the colours of the current performing country! By thw way, I thought I was the only one enjoying the camera playing around the roof ornaments, haha!
      And about your reorder board, I think you did the perfect work that was needed to improve the original one without breaking its original concept!, love it!

    • @mrjdsworld80
      @mrjdsworld80 3 года назад +2

      Myledbury.co.uk is excellent for at-the-time reports of the late 1990s, early 2000s contests. Also, the official rules of many of these contests are there too, and they make interesting reading.
      Most notable for me is that the rules at the time permitted participating broadcasters to repeat the contest as much as they liked for 28 days after the contest. The BBC and RTÉ have never taken advantage of this...and I would have thought in a pre-RUclips time, there would be some demand for a repeat, maybe on a Sunday afternoon. It does appear however that the now-defunct BBC Choice repeated the 2002 contest the Wednesday after the contest.

    • @JeSuisRene
      @JeSuisRene 3 года назад

      Regarding the CanYouWin function, it is correct regarding Germany’s 2 points to Austria. However, I think during Finland’s vote, it should have grayed out when Denmark received 10. It probably is a misfiring of the animation probably...

  • @joaovitormatos8147
    @joaovitormatos8147 3 года назад +48

    "in 10 years from now they'll probably laugh at us too"
    Yeah, we were

    • @DitzyNizzy2009
      @DitzyNizzy2009 3 года назад +4

      At least they were better than the following year’s hosts.

    • @debonidaniel
      @debonidaniel 3 года назад +4

      There is one before and after that edition. When Eurovision returns to Sweden it remodels itself.

    • @stefanmellstrom9096
      @stefanmellstrom9096 Месяц назад

      what an extraordinary comment - you really nailed it there

  • @klaudiaszilagyi669
    @klaudiaszilagyi669 2 года назад +14

    50:40 Quite a dark moment in Eurovision history

    • @tienminhtonguyen6303
      @tienminhtonguyen6303 Год назад +4

      Really sad to see all Dutch people at the time the contest organised, they had to focus the serious news about the explosion of firework in a local town.

  • @user-cc5fm2zl7k
    @user-cc5fm2zl7k 3 года назад +29

    I am so proud of Alsou!!!! First success of my homeland in ESC history 🇷🇺 And still this is the best song of this year. And yes, the scoreboard is real masterpiece, I wish you will do also after 2002 to our days, your redesigns are great! 😍 See you in next video!

  • @nikkthegreek
    @nikkthegreek 3 года назад +8

    Excellent work!!!

  • @MusicSunshine
    @MusicSunshine Год назад

    The most beautiful visual in the history of the contest. Thank you for this wonderful painstaking work, I presented this table in an online format for a long time, you did it wonderfully

  • @sheisveryfamous
    @sheisveryfamous 3 года назад +6

    12 points - Croatia 🇭🇷
    10 points - Turkey 🇹🇷
    8 points - Russia 🇷🇺
    7 points - Ireland 🇮🇪
    6 points - Cyprus 🇨🇾
    5 points - Latvia 🇱🇻
    4 points - Israel 🇮🇱
    3 points - Iceland 🇮🇸
    2 points - Austria 🇦🇹
    1 point - Macedonia 🇲🇰
    Greetings from the U.K.!

  • @jayjayarray
    @jayjayarray 3 года назад +4

    The most badass animation so far!!!

  • @MiroHeinonen
    @MiroHeinonen Год назад +5

    Loukas Hamatsos of Cyprus was the only spokesperson of this year to return in 2016, the next time the contest was in Globen and Stockholm. In both years, he got to award 12 points to Russia in Greece's absence.

  • @argella_d6046
    @argella_d6046 Год назад +3

    just wanted to say that your graphic design and editing are really fantastic. it's so impressive how much information you're able to put onscreen in a really clear & intuitive way. well done!

  • @luukjoling1
    @luukjoling1 2 года назад +2

    The winner was so clear, I always enjoyed this song! I enjoyed Turkey quite a lot too, but overall not the strongest year. Loved the board and the effects! 🙏🙏

  •  3 года назад +5

    thanks a lot for these videos one more time from Turkey.. also our 12 pts really deserved to Sverige

  • @stefanmellstrom9096
    @stefanmellstrom9096 Месяц назад +1

    SVT actually created a new font for this years competition - once used and never again.

  • @martinbertilsson1654
    @martinbertilsson1654 3 года назад +1

    Amazing scoreboard... specially the reorder "shuffle"... very nice done... You really got the feeling of that years contest... I remember I was sitting far back in the arena.. my first Eurovision (and on home soil)... oddly I would see another danish victory 13 years later... (Is that why I only got to three ESCs? Denmark didn´t compete in 2003 so they couldn´t win there... my only abroad)

  • @gummiged88
    @gummiged88 10 месяцев назад +3

    The Croatian entry is probably the song from that year I hear the most today.

  • @luukjoling1
    @luukjoling1 2 года назад +4

    I was 9yo when I could see the clouds of the disaster in Enschede, never had been there before but felt very close. Good call to not broadcast it that day.

  • @crossingfrederic
    @crossingfrederic 3 года назад +3

    Great showing of your talent once again! Although the animation isn't the one I am most fan of, I once again praise you for a terrific job. Your point about the phenomenal intro to the contest is very interesting ; I remember that curiously, in France, we didn't get to any of the "pre-nordic girl' section with the lips telling all the country names in English and French. France 3 just opened it with the girl saying "Welcome Europe" and then the commentator back then started talking after the "explosion" from the crowd. I do believe it's about as much a shame as Terry ruining the opening for UK viewers talking through it cause I also believe that it is by far and still to this day the best opening to a contest ever. I mean can such an opening be topped tbf? I guess it would take quite a stroke of genius creativity to top that off. I almost feel like it's fascinating we never came close to making such a memorable opening again over 20 years on. The only other openings that I can remember of and that were quite something though standing very far behind 2000 would be Helsinki 2007 and Copenhagen 2014.

  • @kaitlinbilous4605
    @kaitlinbilous4605 3 года назад

    Congrats on hitting 1k!🎉🎉

  • @mrjdsworld80
    @mrjdsworld80 3 года назад +11

    While Kattis came across warm and friendly during the contest, I always thought she seemed not very pleasant at all when she returned to Eurovision in 2003 to present the Swedish votes.

    • @crossingfrederic
      @crossingfrederic 3 года назад +3

      I know right? It doesn't even feel like it was the same person!

    • @mrjdsworld80
      @mrjdsworld80 3 года назад +4

      @@crossingfrederic “You are doing a great job...really.” So passive-aggressive.

    • @JeSuisRene
      @JeSuisRene 3 года назад +5

      The thing is with Kattis is that I find she is rather nervous here in 2000. In 2003, she was less nervous but a lot more cold, I thought - a stark contrast to her bubbly yet nervous nature in display here..

  • @AlmostDon
    @AlmostDon 3 года назад +1

    You are about to get 1000 subs!!! Congratulations! I am so glad for you

    • @thereorderboard
      @thereorderboard  3 года назад +1

      🎉Thank you!

    • @AlmostDon
      @AlmostDon 3 года назад +1

      @@thereorderboard I am really looking forward for 2001, when can be wait for it? It's my favorite contest ever.

    • @thereorderboard
      @thereorderboard  3 года назад +1

      @@AlmostDon Despite me being on RUclips right now, I am working at the moment (on a break), and unfortunately I had to work last weekend. I think I might still make it to upload tomorrow but I am much further behind than usual! I love 2001 too...great show!

  • @megalalio
    @megalalio 3 года назад +4

    The first eurovision I watched was 2001, I'm excited about it :D

  • @debonidaniel
    @debonidaniel 3 года назад +17

    This was the first Eurovision I followed the organization from beginning to end. I remember the impact when announced that the contest will be on Globe Arena and comments on the forums at the time and people asking things like, "Is it really that big"? "Why an arena on this size?" Well, the comments on May 14 were completely different. They raised the bar, Denmark wanted to compete with Sweden in 2001 and got lost.

  • @englandportugal91
    @englandportugal91 Год назад +1

    Epic opening!

  • @cdoakley
    @cdoakley 3 года назад +10

    Excellent work as ever!
    I was wondering why the Dutch presenter was a little cryptic about the change from televoting to jury voting. Apparently it was because of the Enschede fireworks disaster (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enschede_fireworks_disaster) which Dutch TV chose to focus on rather than showing Eurovision (understandably).

    • @debonidaniel
      @debonidaniel 3 года назад +3

      the contest aired the next day on same time. As it was a reason of force majeure, EBU authorized the 100% jury and the delayed transmission of the contest, which until today is not allowed for the participating countries.

  • @JeSuisRene
    @JeSuisRene 3 года назад +6

    To paraphrase Terry on the Dublin-based postcards of 1994:
    It’s only been Stockholm in these postcards! No Gothenburg, Malmo, Uppsala - the rest of the country will be furious!

    • @debonidaniel
      @debonidaniel 3 года назад +2

      The contest was sponsored by the city hall. In addition, 3/4 of Sweden's population lives in Stockholm.

  • @tjeurouk
    @tjeurouk 3 года назад +37

    Macedonia first on the internet poll 😂 Early example of internet trolling perhaps ?

    • @debonidaniel
      @debonidaniel 3 года назад +12

      In internet polls, they were the first ones, I think the Spice Girls legacy was still alive, but the rehearsals were disastrous and the live was much worse than the sinking of the Titanic.

  • @MiroHeinonen
    @MiroHeinonen 2 года назад +1

    Cities where the points were awarded from this year (all spokesmen used English unless otherwise stated)
    Israel: Jerusalem
    Netherlands: Hilversum
    United Kingdom: London
    Estonia: Tallinn
    France: Paris (French)
    Romania: Bucharest
    Malta: Valletta
    Norway: Oslo
    Russia: Moscow
    Belgium: Brussels (French)
    Cyprus: Nicosia
    Iceland: Reykjavík
    Spain: Madrid
    Denmark: Copenhagen
    Germany: Hamburg
    Switzerland: Zürich
    Croatia: Zagreb
    Sweden: Gothenburg
    FYR Macedonia: Skopje
    Finland: Helsinki
    Latvia: Riga
    Turkey: Ankara
    Ireland: Dublin
    Austria: Vienna
    Kattis Ahlström dealt with the Israeli, UK, French, Maltese, Russian, Belgian, Icelandic, Spanish, Swiss, Swedish, Finnish, Turkish and Austrian votes. Anders Lundin dealt with the Dutch, Estonian, Romanian, Norwegian, Cypriot, Danish, German, Croatian, Macedonian, Latvian and Irish votes.

  • @SuperJNG18
    @SuperJNG18 3 года назад +4

    The contest was held on my first birthday! Good winner, like the other songs that won on my birthday ("Nocturne" won on my -4th, "Amar pelos dois" on my 18th). My favorite, though, would probably be Latvia, a very sweet little song that set up a trend for the rest of the decade of quirky/quieter songs doing better than expected (Belgium in '03, Cyprus in '04, Latvia again in '05, etc.). Also one of those years where even a country you'd normally ride or die for sends a song you couldn't find a way of defending. There are two of those countries for me (for different reasons), and in the same way that "Chain of Lights" is the one entry from San Marino I can't really find a way to defend ("The Social Network Song" comes close), "Sameach" is the one Israeli entry that I can't find a single redeeming quality about. Doesn't work as satire, doesn't work as music, doesn't work as anything. There are other Israeli entries I don't love quite as much as the others ('89, '93, '06, and '11 don't rank high for me), but that's the only really miserable one that comes to mind.

    • @EldaMengisto
      @EldaMengisto 3 года назад +3

      Sameach also affirms what I know about Israeli entries--the good ones are absolutely fantastic, whereas the bad ones are irredeemable. Also interesting you mention My Star as a favorite, because what I said about Israel could also apply to Latvian Eurovision entries.

    • @SuperJNG18
      @SuperJNG18 3 года назад +4

      @@EldaMengisto Even the worst Israeli entries besides "Sameach" don't make my soul hurt the way that one does. And yeah, that's true about Latvia, but no matter what they do there's at least a sort of "happy to be there" kind of chipperness about their entries.

  • @SchinniNobody
    @SchinniNobody 3 года назад +9

    Love the way you made the change of position :) - Can't wait for what is coming up.
    What will you do after you did 2002? - Going back to 1979?

    • @thereorderboard
      @thereorderboard  3 года назад +4

      I'm going to take a break at first, and I think timing will be handy because it'll be when most of the 2021 pre-selection is happening (I know it's quieter this year). Then I'm going to try and make sense of the early Contests, and hoepfully make them a bit more accessible. I'm looking forward to that!

  • @esczaman1299
    @esczaman1299 3 года назад +8

    First board with technological feel

    • @galenikarlek84
      @galenikarlek84 3 года назад

      NO. The board in Jerusalem, Israel 1999 was very technological!!! My god!!!

    • @esczaman1299
      @esczaman1299 3 года назад

      @@galenikarlek84 , Oh. Sorry if I didn’t know.

    • @debonidaniel
      @debonidaniel 3 года назад

      No way,the first tecnological scoreboard was in 1988,when they changed the physical scoreboard for a videowall

    • @esczaman1299
      @esczaman1299 3 года назад

      @@debonidaniel , i know. I just mean when they present the map on the scoreboard in 2000 as well as the numbers pixellated too.

    • @galenikarlek84
      @galenikarlek84 3 года назад

      @@debonidaniel the 1999 israeli scoreboard STARTED the animated electronics and made the way for the future that we see today! Jeeeeesus

  • @user-vz3nz9po4q
    @user-vz3nz9po4q 3 года назад +6

    The male host couldn't speak french to save his life! Unlucky for him, the country that was leading the whole time and thus was mentioned all the time during voting, Denmark, is one of the few exceptions that require "le" as an article but he kept saying la Denmark. What a mess! Anyway, great work with the scoreboard! Russia was my favourite in 2000, performance was silly though, imo it would've been much better had they had female dancers.

    • @JeSuisRene
      @JeSuisRene 3 года назад +2

      Yes. Reminds me of Gerry Ryan from 1994, whose French was also terrible.

    • @butteredreality4502
      @butteredreality4502 3 года назад +2

      @@JeSuisRene OMG yes! "La' Awn-gree, dooz pwaw..."

  • @EldaMengisto
    @EldaMengisto 3 года назад +2

    I like the transition from the original scoreboard to the one you have! I like the large points on the top right corner, along with the color-scheme. On the other hand, the way the points went up and down was quite messy, but I understand the concept behind it. I also like how you introduced the internet polls about who fans think would win--what were they thinking with 100% te ljubam?
    Anyways, 2000 was a solid year, filled with great production and a couple of fun hosts. The songs are pretty good, at least in comparison with the years surrounding it (1999, 2001-02). I'm surprised how Fly On the Wings of Love overcame the odds to win it all, but they definitely deserved it!
    On a sidenote, why do you think the lips logo would've made a good permanent logo from 2004 onwards?
    My top ten:
    1 pt: MLT
    2 pt: FRA (One minute silence for the French televote giving Israel six of their seven points. That said, On aura le ciel deserved a bit better).
    3 pt: NOR
    4 pt: ISL
    5 pt: TUR
    6 pt: DEN
    7 pt: CRO (Beautiful song, and thoughtful lyrics, but the woman in the background kind of creeped me out.)
    8 pt: RUS - This is where Russia starts taking Eurovision seriously (even though I loved their 1994 and 1997 entries), with a pop song that wouldn't have gotten lost on the radio during that time. I found it very slick, as well as a bit assertive with Alsou leaving her partner in the lyrics.
    10 pt: LAT - Welcome to the party, Latvia! It's still kind of weird that Lithuania and Estonia managed to debut in 1994, but Latvia took another six years to do so. But it was worth it. Renars' performance style was a bit strange, but it compliments the whimsical song very well. I love how happy-go-lucky it is and the almost surrealistic lyrics.
    12 pt: SWE - But my favorite has to be the host entry! It's so epic and determined, with a rousing sound and a good use of ethnic elements. The usage of Native American symbols and elements are a bit jarring, but it makes sense considering the lyrical content and Roger's heritage. Quite a few people commented on how the Swedish version was better, but I don't feel any difference--it's just so cool!

  • @JeSuisRene
    @JeSuisRene 3 года назад +2

    Take a look at the Maltese backing group. They are the same backing group who backed the Swedish winner of the previous year, Take Me to your Heaven. One of the members is Anna Sahlin, who would place third for Estonia in 2002 with Runaway. Also, allegedly this backing group were promised a free holiday to Malta had they won (which they, Estonia or Norway really should have imo), though I’m not sure how true that claim is?

  • @JeSuisRene
    @JeSuisRene 2 года назад

    It’s interesting to see how much Wogan still loved the Eurovision, even as late as 2000. Copenhagen and Riga worked overtime to piss on that sentiment though.

  • @fishler0
    @fishler0 3 года назад +4

    We are so so sorry!
    Love, Israe.

    • @thereorderboard
      @thereorderboard  3 года назад +6

      We're sorry for everything post 2003.
      Love,
      United Kingdom :-)

    • @ponyclub3198
      @ponyclub3198 3 года назад +1

      Yes. We're so sorry Europe for that crippling cacophony. Love, Israel.

  • @pointlessnostalgic78
    @pointlessnostalgic78 3 года назад +4

    Exceptional work, as always. Maybe this time even more than the last times, as you managed to make this contest enjoyable even If I can't stand it for several reason (it set unfortunate stands for the at least the nest 7/8 contests like too-huge-too-loud venues, cringy scripts for the hosts, extremely out of tune performers, extremely cheap musical compositions and so on...) ;)

  • @occono3543
    @occono3543 2 года назад +2

    Like 2011 and a few other years, it's an interesting mismatch of the host country being super on top of the production values but most of the countries involved just pissing it away.

  • @artsed08
    @artsed08 Год назад

    I love how Jørgen Olsen says to his team "Fra England! Fra England!" after the UK votes... he's so pleased that the British public like them ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ

  • @mike.a5726
    @mike.a5726 3 года назад +2

    Too bad we only have 2 contests left..😱😱

  • @ladida7841
    @ladida7841 3 года назад

    Linda Wagenmakers *Mulan/Alexis Rhodes* "No Goodbyes" en "Laat Me Vrij om te Gaan."

  • @JeSuisRene
    @JeSuisRene 3 года назад +5

    Overall, I really like this contest, especially on the production side. Really building on the foundations set by the BBC in 1998. I don’t know if I have already uploaded my points for MM here (I can’t find it in the comments), but if I haven’t then here they are:
    1p 🇱🇻 Latvia
    2p 🇫🇷 France
    3p 🇷🇺 Russia
    4p 🇭🇷 Croatia
    5p 🇮🇪 Ireland
    6p 🇸🇪 Sweden
    7p 🇩🇰 Denmark
    8p 🇪🇪 Estonia
    10p 🇲🇹 Malta
    12p 🇳🇴 Norway

  • @neosfilos32
    @neosfilos32 2 года назад

    Cyprus all the way!!! My winner of the year. Such an underrated song

  • @JeSuisRene
    @JeSuisRene 3 года назад +2

    Unless I am mistaken, the last time where all the Nordic nations (🇸🇪, 🇳🇴, 🇩🇰, 🇮🇸, 🇫🇮) participated in the same contest is 1993.

    • @idankingon
      @idankingon 3 года назад +2

      2014, they're all through to the final (which Denmark hosted)

  • @WillMeganFan
    @WillMeganFan 2 года назад +2

    Wish these days were back. They've ruined it now with their marathon intervals and voting sequences.

  • @JeSuisRene
    @JeSuisRene 3 года назад

    Given his comment starting from 38:32, I bet you he was surprised we only gave 10 to Ireland...

  • @madabbafan
    @madabbafan 6 месяцев назад

    UK sent 'Don't play that song again' europe said 'ok'

  • @ariccua6101
    @ariccua6101 Год назад

    50:46 Poor NED had to cut because of that fireworks tragedy. Sad day over there at the time.

  • @icesam931
    @icesam931 Год назад +1

    Ostani is my all time favourite 🇭🇷❤️

  • @erasmus5898
    @erasmus5898 3 года назад

    Which programme do you use for making the scoreboards? By the way, thanks for your effort; it looks great 😊

    • @thereorderboard
      @thereorderboard  3 года назад

      Check the other videos in the channel, there's even a how to!

  • @Pawhlen
    @Pawhlen 3 года назад +1

    I just wonder, have anyone here actually found that font SVT used during this contest?

    • @JeSuisRene
      @JeSuisRene 3 года назад

      It was a custom typeface built specially for the occasion.

    • @debonidaniel
      @debonidaniel 3 года назад +3

      For the first time in the history of the contest, an edition had a visual language developed exclusively for the event. They won an unbelievable amount of design awards between 2000 and 2001.

  • @JCEurovisionFan1996
    @JCEurovisionFan1996 3 года назад

    What font did you use for the numbers?

    • @thereorderboard
      @thereorderboard  3 года назад

      See the description, but it's called Schoon Square, although I hid th e dot in the middle of the '0'

  • @JeSuisRene
    @JeSuisRene 3 года назад

    Is it just me, or does Millenium of Love (🇮🇪’s entry) have a more-than-passing resemblance to La Voix Est Libre (🇧🇪’s entry from 1995).

  • @blakewilliams6051
    @blakewilliams6051 Год назад

    0:00 Why there was a BBC1 Balloon ID cutoff?

  • @Dim4323
    @Dim4323 Год назад

    The Uk entrant Nicki French said in a interview She felt Treason for not winning the competition.
    And said she did very well but it didn't translate well at other countries.
    Thoughts on that

  • @MusicSunshine
    @MusicSunshine Год назад

    ❤❤❤❤

  • @Amyangina
    @Amyangina 2 года назад +1

    1:31:02 and finanley 12 points go to sweden

  • @Bayar-oe7rj
    @Bayar-oe7rj Год назад

    THE SCOREBOARD IS SEXY WHAT

  • @danielzuccollo6731
    @danielzuccollo6731 3 года назад +1

    OMG, where did you find the video with English commentary ??
    I've been looking for it for months!

    • @JeSuisRene
      @JeSuisRene 3 года назад

      Someone sent it to him, presumably by email?

    • @thereorderboard
      @thereorderboard  3 года назад

      Yes someone (mentioned in the description and the video) had taken it off RUclips before a geoblock or something. I'm sure it's only a matter of time before these get removed

    • @danielzuccollo6731
      @danielzuccollo6731 3 года назад

      @@thereorderboard Can you send to me privatly??

  • @JeSuisRene
    @JeSuisRene 3 года назад

    Kattis and Anders have an ever-so-slight resemblance to Cynthia and Gerry from 1994. Kattis and Cynthia very professional, Anders and Gerry slightly silly with French as good as mine (in the case of Gerry, slightly incompetent too...)

    • @debonidaniel
      @debonidaniel 3 года назад

      I like the two presenters and the two had already been tested before for presenting the Melodifestivalen in 1999 and had the exact chemical to host this event.Anders was also already a face known worldwide for the first reality show in history, the Robinson Exploration, which is the original version of Survivor.

  • @MissSlovakia2
    @MissSlovakia2 Год назад +1

    Croatia, Cyprus, Denmark, France and Sweden were unique - the rest were more-less the same. And sooo 2000... I forgot the terrible fashion and music style 😂. I will definitely remember the swedish guy - what a voice!

  • @darraghgregory1269
    @darraghgregory1269 Год назад +1

    My country Ireland done very well came 6th

  • @JeSuisRene
    @JeSuisRene 3 года назад

    Anyone who knows a thing or two about betting - why were the Estonian odds written as 6/4 and not 3/2?

    • @thereorderboard
      @thereorderboard  3 года назад

      I have checked this - it's a mixture of function and tradition it seems. 6/4 allows bookmakers to shift the price more easily compared to starting at 3/2 - 6/4 can turn to 7/4 and it not seem like an entirely different price. There's also some prices that are related to tic-tak (the now often not used sign language seen at race courses). 100/30 is often not shortened to 10/3 either...it has a special sign in the language.

  • @langadalmatun7239
    @langadalmatun7239 3 года назад +2

    1. I forgot all the songs from ESC 2000. till now. (That's all about quality); 2. I also forgot how stupid were the hosts; 3. No one, except maybe Croatia is no able to sing; 4. Sexy dancers from Russia; 5. The best were, with no any doubt, Cyprus; 6. This is another, second in a raw, event which proves that Scandinavian Eurovision mafia rules this contest from 1999. SO TOP 5 after this remained me on all songs: Cyprus; Austria; Croatia; Switzerland; Russia. Last 5: Denmark, UK, the Netherlands, Belgium, Latvia

    • @JeSuisRene
      @JeSuisRene 3 года назад +1

      What Scandinavian mafia? Besides, Sweden deserved to win the previous year in 1999 (though really Iceland should have won) and Denmark deserved the win in 2000 (though really Norway should have won). Then again, that’s just my opinion...

    • @langadalmatun7239
      @langadalmatun7239 3 года назад

      @@JeSuisRene What Scandinavian mafia? Really!? That Scandinavian mafia investigated by Interpol.

  • @eljestLiv
    @eljestLiv 2 года назад

    I have my hands on a documentary with a lot of behind the scenes footage, which I think might fit into a supercut of this year's contest. Is it possible I could send it to you?

    • @thereorderboard
      @thereorderboard  2 года назад

      Is it uploaded to anywhere? I'm not planning to re-do this video anytime soon, be it would be nice to have in the collection!

    • @eljestLiv
      @eljestLiv 2 года назад

      @@thereorderboard It used to be on SVT Play but I think it was taken down. I can upload it to Google Drive for you if you'd like to download it?

  • @kulera
    @kulera Год назад

    I really wished you woulda used the lips

  • @JeSuisRene
    @JeSuisRene 3 года назад +1

    More musings:
    How the hell did 🇩🇪 finish fifth, when you had great songs from 🇲🇹 finishing 8th, 🇭🇷 finishing 9th and 🇳🇴 finishing 11th?

  • @J1mmyMack
    @J1mmyMack Год назад

    That's so crazy that that was the worst the UK had ever done and everyone was upset about it 😆

  • @JeSuisRene
    @JeSuisRene 2 года назад

    Terry sounds _very_ pissed off at the start of the Irish voting.

    • @ponyclub3198
      @ponyclub3198 2 года назад +3

      At that point of his career as a Eurovision commentator, he already knew where the contest is heading, which was a total trainwreck of block voting and poor music.
      The contest should have skipped directly from 1998 to 2009.

  • @meskbren
    @meskbren 3 года назад +3

    ugh! not my favourite year and absolutely not my favourite winner (not totally undeserving - I just don't care much for it). You have done another lovely job and I like your nice picture of Gamla Stan in the background as well as your cutaway to the top 5. Here are my points:
    1pt Israel (1 point for the controversy)
    2pt France, I suppose
    3pt Malta
    4pt Denmark
    5pt Latvia
    6pt Norway
    7pt Iceland
    8pt Estonia
    10pt Russia
    and finally
    SWEDEN 12 POINTS (For a long time, Russia (which is technically the better song) was my favourite but I love this one, much better than Take Me to Your Heaven)

  • @Crtani_Filmovi_Hrvatska
    @Crtani_Filmovi_Hrvatska 2 года назад +2

    Croatia 🇭🇷❤️

  • @Krmalic
    @Krmalic 2 месяца назад

    0:00

  • @JeSuisRene
    @JeSuisRene 3 года назад

    Out of interest, why are FYR Macedonia using a jury here when they used the televote back in 1998?

    • @debonidaniel
      @debonidaniel 3 года назад

      They changed the criteria for using the televote and the local televote did not reach the minimum number of calls to be computed.

    • @JeSuisRene
      @JeSuisRene 3 года назад

      @@debonidaniel And I’m assuming this is the same reason why they used the jury in 2002?

  • @dramaticScar
    @dramaticScar 3 года назад +2

    Croatia was robbed this year... I'll never let it go

  • @JeSuisRene
    @JeSuisRene 3 года назад +1

    🇨🇭 Switzerland would have done much better a decade or so earlier, I feel.

  • @oleksikora1990
    @oleksikora1990 2 месяца назад

    1:27:32

  • @JeSuisRene
    @JeSuisRene 3 года назад +1

    While I like the postcards, I do feel they are too obvious and in-your-face (by writing on the screen what it is - you miss the fun of Terry Wogan trying to work out what is going on). I do prefer the postcards from 1998 though. With reference to the postcards from 2001, I didn’t like them, until the final (Danish) postcard - my opinion of them has changed since seeing the final postcard

    • @debonidaniel
      @debonidaniel 3 года назад +1

      To date this has been the most expensive competition in history, € 12 million has been invested by the Stockholm City Hall, from SVT itself which made a gigantic profit in 1999. This was also the first year of history in which the organizers copied the financing model for the Olympic Games with the sale of sponsorship quotas and products licensed under the Eurovision brand and also the development of a unique visual language. Even with these innovations, 95% of the budget came from public money that was invested by the City Hall itself motivated by everything that involved the year in question.Was from public knowledge,that the host city fit perfectly as the protagonist of the postcards, since it is one of the most cosmopolitan and modern cities in the world and respond about 3/4 of swedish population and 85% of the country's GDP also comes from this region.

  • @JeSuisRene
    @JeSuisRene 3 года назад

    I never knew Finland and Latvia were neighbours, Terry...?

    • @debonidaniel
      @debonidaniel 3 года назад

      Are,due the Baltic Sea.

    • @JeSuisRene
      @JeSuisRene 3 года назад

      @@debonidaniel Aah, fair enough. But 🇫🇮 aren’t as close neighbours with 🇱🇻 as they are with 🇸🇪 or even 🇷🇺 and 🇪🇪, I wouldn’t have thought?

    • @debonidaniel
      @debonidaniel 3 года назад +1

      @@JeSuisRene Exactly this.Stockholm made a 2026 Winter Olympics bid along Riga.

  • @KarlDowney
    @KarlDowney 3 года назад +2

    Reminds me of 2010 design

  • @JeSuisRene
    @JeSuisRene 3 года назад +4

    This may turn into another video where I comment a lot. Multiple bad vocals this year. Israel in particular. Macedonia the most disappointing as they actually had a decent song but butchered it with the vocals. Netherlands not too great either in terms of vocals.

    • @ponyclub3198
      @ponyclub3198 3 года назад +1

      Even back then, Israel tried to block that joke of a song from appearing. It was too late without recieving a hefty fine from the EBU.
      The selection process itself was performed by the wrong people who were very indifferent. One of the people selecting the song actually said that she took part in the selection because she heard there was "free lunch".
      Hence, the result.

  • @tobyrose6906
    @tobyrose6906 Год назад

    Rehearsal they say the scores. All commentators know .Results. so Now Wogan your not Cynical.

  • @icesam931
    @icesam931 Год назад

    Austria's the Mamas

  • @donalokeeffe7504
    @donalokeeffe7504 Год назад +2

    Never realised how much i hated terry wogans commentary. So disrespectful to everyone. Bordering on xenophobic actually.

  • @bulgaria9003
    @bulgaria9003 3 года назад

    My favorite country is either ztgkfuna or uq^fvfah. Or maybe pqnthos or dn]efm`.

  • @mrjdsworld80
    @mrjdsworld80 3 года назад +7

    This was another contest I missed the first 20 minutes of because I had to go to mass. Perils of growing up in Ireland.
    And what a dreadful entry Ireland had this year. Nicknamed “Millennium of Cheese” by quite a few people here. And yet it did so well!! For no good reason.
    But to parrot what many here have said, it was a year of weak songs and weak performances and so it probably did better than it would have in a stronger year.
    Shame it was a weak song year, because it was a bombastic presentation, setting the standard for the 21st century.
    But what the 21st century also brought in was poorer songs. There’s a definite dip in quality, beginning around 1999, and things only pick up again around 2005.
    No one predicted a Danish win this year. From my recollection, the online fandom was all about the Netherlands entry. Not to be, and the fandom for the second year got it completely wrong.
    Along with Netherlands, the smart money seemed to be on Estonia. And Once in a Lifetime would have been a far more worthy winner than the song they would win with a year later.
    I do recall both Estonia and Netherlands lost some momentum as the contest approached (Netherlands had a bad running order position and outfit, and the story from rehearsals was that poor Ines was a nervous wreck on stage.)
    So when the contest began, it really was so open.
    I actually really like the original 2000 scoreboard. Minimal but that’s in right? Plus it has stopped it looking dated nearly 21 years later.

    • @JeSuisRene
      @JeSuisRene 3 года назад +1

      I agree with your thoughts regarding a dip in song quality. I personally don’t think it ever truly picked up since 1997/98, despite a few anomalies across the road. Besides, I feel this was certainly one of the best ESCs of C21st - certainly one of the best contests in a very long time.

    • @JeSuisRene
      @JeSuisRene 3 года назад

      I really don’t see the appeal behind the Netherlands’ entry. But absolutely behind Estonia’s entry. I also think Norway and Malta should have done _much_ better than they eventually did. And I mean, *much* better.

    • @mrjdsworld80
      @mrjdsworld80 3 года назад +1

      @@JeSuisRene interestingly (or maybe not) at the same time as Norway were at Eurovision singing “My heart goes boom” a group called French Affair were having a Europe-wide hit (not the U.K. though, but it did make the Irish top 20) with a song called...”My heart goes boom.” I don’t know how often it has happened that a song doing well in the charts has the same name as a Eurovision entry competing in the contest at the same time.

    • @JeSuisRene
      @JeSuisRene 3 года назад

      @@mrjdsworld80 I’ve had a listen of French Affair’s song and I think I can safely say that Charmed’s song is the better “My Heart Goes Boom” 😹

    • @mrjdsworld80
      @mrjdsworld80 3 года назад +1

      @@JeSuisRene but French Affair made a bigger splash in Europe...it made no 1 in Germany and Austria and hit the top 5 in quite a few countries.

  • @mateoantoniosvensson7696
    @mateoantoniosvensson7696 3 года назад +2

    Ah.....ah be happy! Peace! A bit political

    • @ponyclub3198
      @ponyclub3198 3 года назад

      It's our worst entry ever and we prefer to completely forget about that national shame :)
      I guess that starting the worst Eurovision decade with the worst Eurovision song was foreseeing the future.

  • @mrjdsworld80
    @mrjdsworld80 3 года назад

    Hungary also could have come back in 2000, no?

    • @thereorderboard
      @thereorderboard  3 года назад +1

      You're right that there's a hole in my description of returnees...although I did mention in my 1999 description that money trouble in Budapest meant they gave their place in Jerusalem to Portugal. What I didn't explicitly say is that this would lead to a longer spell away from the Contest (to 2005). I'm not really sure what would happen to a country if they qualify but sit out...yes their place goes to the next in line of average scores, but would they automatically qualify to enter 2000? I suppose so....in this case it just wasn't tested.

    • @mrjdsworld80
      @mrjdsworld80 3 года назад

      @@thereorderboard I think the rule under the “average score over the last five contests” system was that no country should ever be made miss two consecutive contests. So I guess if they had done their penance and sat out 1999 then the door would be open to a return either the next year or in subsequent years. The closest comparison is Greece, who like Hungary were kicked out in 1999 and could have returned in 2000, but didn’t. They then returned in 2001, and I’m guessing they were given an automatic slot.

    • @debonidaniel
      @debonidaniel 3 года назад

      They changed this rule on this year.Russia was expected to comeback in 1999,but due internal constrains about the national selection they don't compete in Jerusalem.Was expect to see Hungary in 1999 and 2000 but this doesn't happened,as the fees to pay on the contest on that time was proportional about the size of each country's population.

    • @debonidaniel
      @debonidaniel 3 года назад

      @@thereorderboard the 25th country was Greece and the 26th was Hungary.Hungarian MTV had no money to pay the fees and Greece's ERT decided to prioritize the Sydney Olympics.

  • @beandrag9019
    @beandrag9019 Год назад

    “The top seven countries are all Baltic states”
    Lmao
    Okay

  • @FlavioGirl
    @FlavioGirl 2 года назад

    nethelands wins for best costume :D

  • @cigdemgurel3159
    @cigdemgurel3159 2 года назад

    OUR MOTHER TOUNG İS TURKİSH,NOT ENGLİSH

  • @davidspear9790
    @davidspear9790 Год назад

    That Macedonian song got first in the internet poll? Along with Israel it was the worst performance of the night!

  • @nickgreu4ever
    @nickgreu4ever 3 года назад +1

    God the songs that year were so bad :P

    • @ponyclub3198
      @ponyclub3198 2 года назад +1

      The entire decade was terrible. A complete disconnect between Eurovision music and the music heard on the radio during those days.

  • @ponyclub3198
    @ponyclub3198 3 года назад +3

    Damn, Israel was so bad and didn't even get last place. Epic.

    • @leniben839
      @leniben839 Год назад

      regardless of anything,
      So much injustice and wrongdoing over the years
      And this is the most outrageous thing that happened this year in your opinion?
      Israel has never finished in last place and has also never received zero points
      Now tell me what hurts you so much?

  • @TheNathanj2009
    @TheNathanj2009 3 месяца назад

    One of the weakest years, I liked Turkey best. Israel and Belgium were horrifically bad! At the time I thought this was the worst Eurovision not knowing worse was to come the next year!

  • @JeSuisRene
    @JeSuisRene 3 года назад

    Some more of my musings here... Russia clearly looked at the Swedish winning performance of 1991 and thought that would be the path to victory. Which almost worked...

  • @emmanuelscheidt8990
    @emmanuelscheidt8990 2 месяца назад

    I am an old fan of ESC since the 70's. 2000 is one of the worst year concerning songs and singers! Fortunetly ESC as improved since the 2010's. For me only 3 songs remain: Estonia, Denmark and Turkey.

  • @dreasbn
    @dreasbn Год назад +1

    the commentry is more than annoying... bad looser.... and just for the record: Austria traditionally gave not many points to Germany.

    • @ponyclub3198
      @ponyclub3198 Год назад +2

      Yes, it's annoying, but the eastern block was unbearable

  • @juancarlossoton
    @juancarlossoton 10 месяцев назад

    Unheard of that Spain received votes when it was a horrible song horribly performed and with choruses taken from a horror movie

  • @ponyclub3198
    @ponyclub3198 2 года назад +2

    What a terrible collection of songs. Completely detached from early 2000s music. So cliché and uninteresting. The winner fits exactly the yawn that Eurovision was in the 2000s.

  • @virtual30
    @virtual30 3 года назад

    Macedonia is the best.......LOL