It seems like they tried to adjust him so that he would fit more with the faster MVC2 gameplay rather than the slower boss character normals, but they didn’t adjust enough for him to work. It feels more like they made a different playable version
Here some points of view: - Capcom decided to give Thanos new physical moves in MvsC2, while removing his projectile moves (flame pillar stomps, rock projectiles...). - No Mind Stone in MvsC2 No wonder why we don't see many players to pick him in fighting tournaments. Good video.
@@KillaRock404I think his bubble assist is the only viable capture type assist in the game. I never seen anyone use Ruby Heart with capture assist and I rarely seen any spiderman players.
I find it ironic how the two stones they took away from this Thanos in MvC2 were the same last two stones that the MCU Thanos acquired in Infinity War. So basically the Thanos you fight in MvC2 is equivalent to the one Spidey, Iron Man, The Guardians and Doctor Strange fought on Titan.
@@ZoarTwiliI don’t think so, I think the Russo brothers were MvC2 fans, notice how MvC2 Thanos has bubble attack as well. In the movies he spammed bubbles in the same way.
So in one game he was an overpowered boss character, in the other, he was just another member of the roster, so he obviously needed to be nerfed. This checks out.
Well it was part of the story cause he had all the gems in MSH. But the downside to his super moves are that the startup animation is not invincible. So alot of pressure can stop his supers from even coming out.
It is a shame they had to take away Thanos' msh animation & extra supers. Probably for balances or some other reason. Not to much of a shock than why Rogue can't replicate EVERYONES MOVES if she absorbed all 56 characters! 😂
I'd rather say it was because of memory limitations rather than balance changes bc MvC2 is not a balanced game, also bc of the effects of Time and Mind stones, I think those would be hard to implement into the game wothout causing any big glitches or weird things lol
I decided to do some quick looking up on Thanos' publication history between the Infinity Gauntlet story and 2000. While it was a nice touch to remove the Infinity Gems from his sprite in MVC2 since he no longer had them at this point in the comics, I haven't the slightest clue why they replaced his ranged normals with generic physical attacks. As early as Cosmic Powers and Infinity Watch int the 90s, he still very much has his Titan powers where he can shoot energy projectiles and he's even shown to be pretty good with weapons. He was even able to reflect projectiles from before the whole Infinity Gauntlet stuff. The character especially reeks of rush job considering they kept his Hypers from Marvel Super Heroes and he clearly used them Gems since he still shouts out their names. That is to say, Thanos is not just a big strong guy throwing around his weight. If they could give Magneto all that crazy stuff he does in the Marvel Vs games, they could have taken just as many liberties with Thanos.
i think the removed gems has less to do with the comics (at this point i expected other "adjustments" for the other marvel characters as well) and more with the limitation on the hardware they were working with
@@Zontar82 Don't think hardware is an issue. While Marvel Super Heroes was running on older CPS-2 hardware, MVC2 was running on the far stronger NAOMI board, which is based off of the Dreamcast. Compare and contrast: giant characters like Apocalypse were barely animated on the CPS-2 board and reduced to just static sprites with smaller animated props. The NAOMI board allowed Abyss to be a thing. It's equally as big as Onslaught, but it's far more lively in its animation in all of its forms, especially its final one
His attacks in MSH were meant to be as an boss, since he's not a playable character in normal means. Then in MvC2 they added him back to the roster as he is part of Marvel, updated the sprites as an little detail from the comics and gave him physical attacks for gameplay purposes. Also I do believe about the hardware limitation, MvC2 have an big roster and despite the console being stronger, it still was limited in memory, Capcom had to do some cuts to fit everything in the game, a lot of the characters in the game had their sprites animations cut and some attacks removed
@@23lief86 The "he's a boss" thing doesn't work when Magneto is allowed to retain his entire moveset from Children of the Atom Say what you will about MVCI, at least it remembered he could shoot energy blasts and still made him a viable normal playable character
Also, in the comics, the infinity gems are oval and smooth, looking as if they are polished gems. In the MCU, they look like rough rocks or misshapen pebbles to emulate a stone appearance
Rogue is the one that got nerfed the most out of every MvC2 hero. Mainly because the devs at Capcom had no time to put in every move she copies, like how they had no time to create Crossover Combination Finishes.
no you zoomers are stretching things out waaaaay longer than they should. there is no "comcis explanation" is just capcom being lazy and having to deal with the hardware they were working with
He was the final boss in Marvel superheroes so he had to be somewhat of a nuisance just a regular character on the roster and he got completely dumbed down which makes no sense considering that he is the Mad Titan and truly one of Marvel's anti-hero big bads plus he and Doctor Doom did require a code to have them unlocked in the game of course Doom was a bit more of a challenge then Thanos this is good you ever consider the dark stalker series good Legendary Fun
Out of all the changes, it feels kinda weird that they removed the gems from his glove in MvC2. Sure, they aren't a mechanic like in Msh, but they're still a core part of his character.
I like how Thanos still uses energy projection of some form. Even with no Gauntlet or Gems he can conjure energy blasts and the like in the comic books
The balancing in the Vs. series is terrible in general, so it's pretty on-brand. MvCI might be balanced, but I refuse to acknowledge that game's existence.
Thanos was busted due to being a boss in MSH... but when they nerfed him he was so weak in MVC2! I'm glad they could find a middle ground with a new moveset in MVCI.
His super animations do not have invincible frames on startup in MSH. He can be hit out of it before the super comes out. Alot of pressure stops him from using supers.
Thanos by himself wasn't nearly as good in MVC2, but that's where assists come in. Don't underestimate him though, especially once he's got his meter charged and a large array of supers.
I already did a video of which gem has a unique effect for each character =). But if you mean "all gem effects"? Well I did not do that because they all have the same effect unless you use specific ones on certain characters.
I would love to see someone modding MSH Thanos into UMvC3 but I don't see that very possible, he is a very ignored character, also MvCI Thanos is already modded and having twice the same character modded would ve really werid lol
@skinnypippen9580 I didn't see anything different about magneto in umvsc3... does he have powers like in Cota? Didn't seem like it. All I saw was another infinite combo character 🙄
@@AcidGlow For a Former playable boss character Magneto is Excellent in Marvel Super Heroes and UMVC3. He has a gravitational pull in unbc3, Magnetic Tempest can be done on air in Marvel Super Heroes. You looking at infinites. Thanos is lame in MVC2
![Marvel Super Heroes [Arcade] - play as Thanos (playthrough)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/UnGFPR6ekX0/mqdefault.jpg)
*Wanted to cover the changes of Thanos in these 2 games* 😀
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Good detail to remove the Gems from his character model in MvsC2.
It seems like they tried to adjust him so that he would fit more with the faster MVC2 gameplay rather than the slower boss character normals, but they didn’t adjust enough for him to work. It feels more like they made a different playable version
Here some points of view:
- Capcom decided to give Thanos new physical moves in MvsC2, while removing his projectile moves (flame pillar stomps, rock projectiles...).
- No Mind Stone in MvsC2
No wonder why we don't see many players to pick him in fighting tournaments.
Good video.
He doesn't have an air throw either Capcom clearly thought he was better than he is
Hes a decent mid tier. His bubble assist is very good for extending combos. I would argue its one of the better assist in the game.
@@KillaRock404I think his bubble assist is the only viable capture type assist in the game. I never seen anyone use Ruby Heart with capture assist and I rarely seen any spiderman players.
yup because they nerfed him very badly
We don't see people pick him because the top tiers are stupid busted lol
If you go to a ratio tournament or a mid tier tournament he's great
I find it ironic how the two stones they took away from this Thanos in MvC2 were the same last two stones that the MCU Thanos acquired in Infinity War. So basically the Thanos you fight in MvC2 is equivalent to the one Spidey, Iron Man, The Guardians and Doctor Strange fought on Titan.
MCU Thanos was AFTER MVC Thanos. No hindsights here.
It's just a coincidence @@HansenSebastian
@@ZoarTwiliI don’t think so, I think the Russo brothers were MvC2 fans, notice how MvC2 Thanos has bubble attack as well. In the movies he spammed bubbles in the same way.
So in one game he was an overpowered boss character, in the other, he was just another member of the roster, so he obviously needed to be nerfed. This checks out.
Well it was part of the story cause he had all the gems in MSH. But the downside to his super moves are that the startup animation is not invincible. So alot of pressure can stop his supers from even coming out.
There are better ways to balance boss characters. Even without the gems, his normals shouldn’t be that bad. Magneto’s a great example of how to do it
In a nutshell
@someguy2315 magneto was turned into another "infinite combo character". His powers were weakened.
@@someguy2315magneto is far from balanced.
I'd imagine if they keep his moveset from MSH in MVC 2 with his new attack animations added, Thanos would likely be up there with the High Tiers.
His Time Stone Attack would've been so broken on a team with Cable, Iron Man, Storm, Magneto, or Sentinel.
I always felt that MSH's standing HK could have been turned a special move in mvc2
It is a shame they had to take away Thanos' msh animation & extra supers. Probably for balances or some other reason. Not to much of a shock than why Rogue can't replicate EVERYONES MOVES if she absorbed all 56 characters! 😂
In the case of Rogue is because not all the characters has moves generated by theirselves, for Example, Hayato or Jill.
I'd rather say it was because of memory limitations rather than balance changes bc MvC2 is not a balanced game, also bc of the effects of Time and Mind stones, I think those would be hard to implement into the game wothout causing any big glitches or weird things lol
@@a._.3916 "big glitches" or "werid things" such as?...."lol"
I decided to do some quick looking up on Thanos' publication history between the Infinity Gauntlet story and 2000. While it was a nice touch to remove the Infinity Gems from his sprite in MVC2 since he no longer had them at this point in the comics, I haven't the slightest clue why they replaced his ranged normals with generic physical attacks. As early as Cosmic Powers and Infinity Watch int the 90s, he still very much has his Titan powers where he can shoot energy projectiles and he's even shown to be pretty good with weapons. He was even able to reflect projectiles from before the whole Infinity Gauntlet stuff. The character especially reeks of rush job considering they kept his Hypers from Marvel Super Heroes and he clearly used them Gems since he still shouts out their names.
That is to say, Thanos is not just a big strong guy throwing around his weight. If they could give Magneto all that crazy stuff he does in the Marvel Vs games, they could have taken just as many liberties with Thanos.
i think the removed gems has less to do with the comics (at this point i expected other "adjustments" for the other marvel characters as well) and more with the limitation on the hardware they were working with
@@Zontar82 Don't think hardware is an issue. While Marvel Super Heroes was running on older CPS-2 hardware, MVC2 was running on the far stronger NAOMI board, which is based off of the Dreamcast.
Compare and contrast: giant characters like Apocalypse were barely animated on the CPS-2 board and reduced to just static sprites with smaller animated props. The NAOMI board allowed Abyss to be a thing. It's equally as big as Onslaught, but it's far more lively in its animation in all of its forms, especially its final one
His attacks in MSH were meant to be as an boss, since he's not a playable character in normal means.
Then in MvC2 they added him back to the roster as he is part of Marvel, updated the sprites as an little detail from the comics and gave him physical attacks for gameplay purposes.
Also I do believe about the hardware limitation, MvC2 have an big roster and despite the console being stronger, it still was limited in memory, Capcom had to do some cuts to fit everything in the game, a lot of the characters in the game had their sprites animations cut and some attacks removed
@@23lief86 The "he's a boss" thing doesn't work when Magneto is allowed to retain his entire moveset from Children of the Atom
Say what you will about MVCI, at least it remembered he could shoot energy blasts and still made him a viable normal playable character
Wish they'd have turned his rock normals into special moves or something for MVC2. It would give him something to do besides throw bubble assists.
His CR. HK could have been a solid assist as a pseudo beam.
I understand why he was weakened in mvc2. But the option to add the infinity glove in Marvel be Capcom 2 would have been a nice touch
Don't forget he gained meter like crazy. Even blocking his FP and RK normals would build almost an entire meter.
He also loves the ability for the announcer to call his supers, lol.
Actually this is comic Thanos so they'd be the Infinity Gems not Stones
What's the difference?
@@Kalebent If it ain't broke don't fix it
@@Kalebentnothing they just changed the name for the movies for some lame reason
Also, in the comics, the infinity gems are oval and smooth, looking as if they are polished gems. In the MCU, they look like rough rocks or misshapen pebbles to emulate a stone appearance
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The errata Thanos.
I always wanted to find aa video explaing what changed in Thanos in both games. Thanks for the vid!
His crouching medium is still a launcher in MVC2 you just have to input diagonal down forward HP
Yeah, not sure how they missed that.
He has an infinite in mvc2 as well. He is still low tier
You know a game is cracked when a character with an infinite, a "capture" assist and big utility supers is a non-viable low tier
@a._.3916 Daaaaaaam that's so fkn true. But mvc2 was heavy hitn roster had a lot of unique low tier killer team ups in that 1.
@@j3zhott that's one of many reasons I love MvC2, you can straight up choose 3 low tier characters and somehow end up making a busted team
Capcom should have kept his boss form in MVC2. Albeit compensate it by lowering his damage, His projectiles would have been a lot more useful
Rogue is the one that got nerfed the most out of every MvC2 hero.
Mainly because the devs at Capcom had no time to put in every move she copies,
like how they had no time to create Crossover Combination Finishes.
they were just lazy, i mean the characters didn't even had a proper own endings, just that generic shit.
Maybe some movements are related to gems, like rocks or fire (space or power gem) and whithout gems in mvc2 not able to mate that moves...i think 😅
no you zoomers are stretching things out waaaaay longer than they should. there is no "comcis explanation" is just capcom being lazy and having to deal with the hardware they were working with
i didn't realize they actually took the infinity gems off his sprite in mvc2 before, that's crazy
The mind gem also changes how thano's stage looks for the duration, but only his stage.
He was the final boss in Marvel superheroes so he had to be somewhat of a nuisance just a regular character on the roster and he got completely dumbed down which makes no sense considering that he is the Mad Titan and truly one of Marvel's anti-hero big bads plus he and Doctor Doom did require a code to have them unlocked in the game of course Doom was a bit more of a challenge then Thanos this is good you ever consider the dark stalker series good Legendary Fun
Out of all the changes, it feels kinda weird that they removed the gems from his glove in MvC2. Sure, they aren't a mechanic like in Msh, but they're still a core part of his character.
I think it's cause the gem story belonged to the msh game.
@@AcidGlow Also possible - corner cut to save ram for the game. Compare colossus & sentinel Xmen:CotA to MvC2 - animations were cut.
Title of video should be Thanos was nerfed in mvc2. 😜
Awesome! I would love for see one video for Sentinel (XMen CotA vs the one in Marvel vs Capcom 2)
I wish there was a mod for the ps2 version where he at least had a costume with the stones, it just made the model cooler, imo.
I like how Thanos still uses energy projection of some form. Even with no Gauntlet or Gems he can conjure energy blasts and the like in the comic books
GREAT VIDEO!
thank you. I did one on Magneto and Zero from KOF2001 also
Because the button system in mvc2 (2 punchx x 2 kick) all character was nerfed
Capcom did a horrible job balancing Thanos.
The balancing in the Vs. series is terrible in general, so it's pretty on-brand. MvCI might be balanced, but I refuse to acknowledge that game's existence.
@@melvinshine9841 the only good thing was seeing a 3d model of Jedah, and that was it
I wonder if instead of having bone claw Wolverine, they should have put Infinity gems Thanos instead unless he would be too broken.
Thanos was busted due to being a boss in MSH... but when they nerfed him he was so weak in MVC2! I'm glad they could find a middle ground with a new moveset in MVCI.
His super animations do not have invincible frames on startup in MSH. He can be hit out of it before the super comes out. Alot of pressure stops him from using supers.
Hulk theme is so good. Capcom cooked with the OSTs of these Marvel games.
great video
Funny enough in MvC 2 he's using the "Finity Glove" one reason he can only utilize the Gems as supers
Before he became a twerking Fortnite meme.
Look how they massacred my boy!😢
In the PS2 version of MVC2, I thought he had the Infinity Stones with him
Virgin Infinity Stones are in a drawer at the TVA, Chad Infinity Gems are what real titans use
What no Gems does to a mf
No gem mode is in versus. It will not spawn gems during the match
@@AcidGlow nah…It’s a joke because in the first game he has the power stones and is a boss and in MVC2 he doesn’t have the gems and is a bottom tier
@manchxz ah I see what you mean. 🙂
Thanos by himself wasn't nearly as good in MVC2, but that's where assists come in. Don't underestimate him though, especially once he's got his meter charged and a large array of supers.
In msh he is a boss character in mvc2 they had to nerf him down 👇.
Marvel super Heroes Thanos is the Thanos in my opinion.
Can you do one that shows the power of each character with each infinity gem?
I already did a video of which gem has a unique effect for each character =). But if you mean "all gem effects"? Well I did not do that because they all have the same effect unless you use specific ones on certain characters.
@@AcidGlow Oh thank you finally somebody did this. I will check it out.
There are no stones in the gauntlet but it still uses the power of the stones in special moves.
excuse me what is the song in the intro?
Marvel Super Heroes VS Street Fighter secret character theme. B)
All these changes just for them to give him random lightning attacks in MvCI.
What does he do with his OG crouching hard kick? Elbow pump? Stomping? Really weird animation.
nerfed him so hard when he came to mvc
I would love to see someone modding MSH Thanos into UMvC3 but I don't see that very possible, he is a very ignored character, also MvCI Thanos is already modded and having twice the same character modded would ve really werid lol
I don't think you know the meaning of the word "modded", kid
Why does his HK in MVC2 look so much like Ken's from SF3 lol
Where's his bubble?
still there. It's not really changed much. slow moving.. captures.. no change.
So the first Thanos is from Infinity War. The MVC2 one is from Endgame after the snap. Then there's Mvci which came from Super Hero Squad i guess.
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They ruined him lmbo
He was Horrible! Just do with him like you did Magneto in Marvel Super Heroes. Glad they Got Magneto right in UMVC 3
@skinnypippen9580 I didn't see anything different about magneto in umvsc3... does he have powers like in Cota? Didn't seem like it. All I saw was another infinite combo character 🙄
@@AcidGlow For a Former playable boss character Magneto is Excellent in Marvel Super Heroes and UMVC3. He has a gravitational pull in unbc3, Magnetic Tempest can be done on air in Marvel Super Heroes. You looking at infinites. Thanos is lame in MVC2
@skinnypippen9580 buy you're saying they got magneto "right in umvsc3". Like what changes made him better?
@@AcidGlow Read what I typed!
@@skinnypippen9580 he can do hyper grav since msh.. and tempest can be done in previous games before umvc3. You did not list anything new
MSH are a final boss MVC2 simple characters sama time magneto XMEN COTA is final boss MSH simple character.