You have to buffer all inputs to combo. So like RIGHT before the jab animation ends do exactly what he says in the one two three rhythm. When he said that, it was the EXACT rhythm that works for me
Well, to get the Jab => B-air combo, I discovered that doing an initial dash then cancelling the lag via performing the F-tilt, then pressing L/R 1/2 frames later can make it miles easier. Or, you can mix-up by doing a Sliding F-tilt. For that, dash, then again but in the opposite direction, and finally, use the f-tilt in the direction you were initially dashing in! Below are the controls assuming the target is to your right: Jab => B-air combo: A, wait, ->, ), L/R, ->. Sliding F-tilt: ->, ). There's all the help I can offer. Keep in mind though, all inputs must be performed IMMEDIATELY. EDIT: I used a Nintendo Switch Pro controller, so it might be less effective with a GameCube Controller.
Barry Owen The sliding F-tilt is actually a pretty good mix up, I learned it pretty early when I started playing competitive smash and it’s a great way to catch people jumping back to ledge when they think they are safe.
@@shidouast not sure about Palu, but at low percents I assume down throw bair can be attack canceled and when they’re launched too high like at higher percents you need to rar bair
getting better for those struggling your holding c stick too long at least that's what i did, it's not when the sword starts swinging it's on the moment he turns if that helps.
Palu main here; I've been pulling my hair out trying to figure out how to do the d-throw -> bair combo I see all the time in tournaments, and this video finally helped me do it! Still need to practice a bit more, but at least i know what I'm doing now.
Glad I could help! At high percent you'll want to full hop the back air so you'll need to do a RAR from initial dash. I have a tutorial on that as well ;)
I have a recommendation for those who can't do the standard, as in you run towards the opponent, then RAR. You should do the dash, but instead of flicking the C-stick before jumping, turn in the opposite direction, use L/R to jump, then immediately flick the C-stick in your opponent's direction. EDIT: The inputs must be performed VERY quickly, I mean your fingers must look like they're mashing.
Thanks for the instant b-air tip. I just tested Link, Joker, and Bowser, and it seems like you have to input jump + forward within 2 frames of the back tilt
you can actually do a RAR back air after the initial dash without doing an attack cancel, the only thing you need to do its forward then u tap the upper left corner of ur control stick and at the same time tap jump, now ur in the air, to do the back air u just tap forward and A or if u use the c stick just tap forward, at first its a bit trickier but if u practice and be patient it gets easier.This is just if ur facing right, but, if u want to do it in the other direction just do the same thing but reversed.
Dang! I've had trouble doing the jab bair on Chrom but thanks to this i've instantly got it with 90% consistency. Gotta practice a bit more to perfect it more but that instant progress. Thank you so much!
Wow.... you actually helped me figure this out.... why does everyone else make it sound so difficult lol it feels like your pressing everything at the same time but your not haha def takes lots of practice but I’m excited as hell now thank you!!
I have literally been doing this the hard way. as in dash and quickly turn around, jump and back air. I did it the hard way and made it difficult for myself. And I could barely land them So all of yall suck it cause I did it the hard way. You guys and you attack cancels 😂 Video was super helpful by the way
I have my own version of a doing a RAR however I have both of my back L buttons set to jump (L1, L2) and then do a quick ➡️⬅️ then press both jump buttons at the same time along with flicking the c stick to where your opponent is and you get a RAR
you can acheive the same result by pressing one jump button, if you press turn around and jump at the same time you keep your forward momentum while jumping backwards, if you press forward back on cstick you will get frame perfect rar's every time
I typically just flick my control stick in the opposite direction then jump and do bair however I may give this a try to see which I find better or prefer so thanks for the tip I'll be sure to share this with my friends for them to learn it as well
Eyy Mega gut gemacht, den deutschen Akzent hört man auch raus lol. Mit Ryu kann man so den leichten F Tilt in einen RAR confirmen, wenn der Gegner nach innen DIet. Ich hab das auch nur so verstanden wie du es erklärt hast. Hab das mal bei nem japanischen Ryu gesehen, aber Bairs bei den FGCs sind ja sowieso nervig wegen dem automatischen Umdrehen. Jetzt kann ichs, danke.
If he isn't from Germany I will main Duck Hunt Btw nice video PS: Ich finde es immer wieder süß wenn deutsche Englisch reden. Weiß net wieso aber es erfüllt mich irgendwie Freude xd
Just tried this last night and im able to do it 2 times out of 20 attempts. Are you seriously telling me that these pros are pulling this shit off at a consistent rate, placing high in tournaments?? This is absolutely nuts. Although I am on the joycons, I still don’t think it would be any easier on the original GC controller lol.
You are doing the backwards facing back airs by pressing jump before you do c stick backairs. I also am inputting fair but idk why, but probably not jumping fast enough
Reverse Nair and Up-air are possible with this technique. For Reverse Nair let go off the Control Stick right after the initial dash. For Reverse Up-air do the same but flick the control stick upwards when you press jump. Full hops are not possible with this method.
Hello, When doing the jab bait combo for Roy. Do you use the rar method or attack cancel method? Are there any situations that one would be better/easier?
Since both methods work it's probably best to just find out what you're more comfortable with. At high percent you might need a full hop bair though so that's when you would need to RAR.
I think wolf can get down throw instant bair but I'm not sure. Marth could cover ledge jump or get a nice read, but again not a main of either. Honestly I sorta main Ridley and I don't use it
I solved the issue, learn to only “half-press” the trigger while performing this technique. Beforehand I could ONLY get it consistently while facing the right side of the stage, and it would only work 50% of the time while facing to the left. However, after an hour of labbing I discovered that if you only press the trigger down halfway it work almost EVERY TIME, on both sides. 👍🏻
finally wanted to figure out what this was and this was helpful lol but I play in a claw so my thumb uses the stick and my pointer is on Y😂 so no fancy button config for me. Players using this grip can even do Roy’s Jab in to Attack cancel backair. But if people need that jump on a shoulder go ahead. You’ll just need to adjust and not press that button for shielding.
I've been practicing for months and i still cant do it more than 50% of the time. I'm beginning to think I just can't really do it because of my tiny hands or something.
Start by practicing at half speed. Learn how long you have to cancel the tilt (i think its the 2 start up frames of a move, fast but very doable). Practice only moving without drifting, then incorporate drifting. Then, (if you play roy or chrom) add jab for a kill confirm
Like and 1000 thumbs up, everyone else on the web has been dog shit at explaining it and i got this down in 5 mins with your input and explanation of it. Thank you.
at the 5 minute mark when you are describing the instant dash cancel back air... thingy, you say to hold the movement stick through the c stick cancel, how does this not result in a dash attack?
When trying to do either of them I find I back air in the other direction a lot of the time. I use a hori pro controller. Anyone know why I might getting the Bair to go the wrong way?
I also use the hori and it works well for me with both of these, the RAR is very easy for me but I think only because I've been doing it a while, the attack cancel one seems tricky but I think with more practice it will also be easy. The hori is not the issue
I'm using pro with jump being my Right bumper and my right joystick being tilt I also main doc. Any tips on when to time tilt plus jump cause Docs movement is pretty slow when it comes to turning the opposite direction when dashing..
Can you do the first one without tilt c stick? So you jab, and during jab animation you buffer left on control stick + A to do a backward Ftilt, and then just move control stick to the right as soon as the attack comes out and jump forward (within first couple frames of the tilt) to get the instant back air?
I'm assuming you're doing a forward air in the wrong direction. That's what happens when you press jump before flicking the c-stick. Focus on using the c-stick first.
Does this technique work for instant up air and down airs? Asking because often i want an instant down air with snake so I push c stick down and jump but an up air comes out. Just wondering if the same type of reversal c stick mechanic is occurring for me.
Its not really a tech but.. Can you explain the new 0-death of luigi to me? Or make a video? (downthrow backwards fair looking away from our opponent, nair backwards fair nair zair to the opponent up b)
@@DaKlink47 I got it from this video ruclips.net/video/TX7xhSucu2U/видео.html. it starts arround 9:45. In case the link doesnt work, here is the short form: /watch?v=TX7xhSucu2U&t=584s. and the original video is from the beefy smash doods, the video title is "Duck Hunt's Can Is FLOATING In Mid-Air [SMASH REVIEW #11]"
Hey :) sounds to me like you might accidentally be inputting jump before you flick the c-stick. Try to focus on doing the C-Stick flick first. The inputs also have to be within a very short frame window so just keep practicing and you'll get it.
Sometimes I manage to input a full hop bair. Which is actually pretty good because it connects way better after the jab than the short hop version. I just don't know how to get the full hop bair consistently... Does anybody know the input for it?
Poulbleu Therian this lets you do things like Roy's jab into back air consistently while facing your opponent. Turning around sometimes just takes too long and with attack cancelling you don't lose momentum from turning around the normal way.
Instantly, whenever I hear a clinical and clean German accent tell me how to surgically destroy someone, I trust it and believe it.
lmao
69 likes nice
BLitZ KrriEG!
German players seem pretty technical
@@_saitama1566 not less technical than others tbh. There are enough noobs in german Smash warfare xD
I’ve watched so many attack cancel tutorials and this is the only one that really made sense! You’re my hero
Thank you! Glad it helped =)
exactly this, really clicking now tyty
Much better explanation of how to do attack canceling than other videos on the platform
interesting because I considered this one of the worse ones I've seen... I'd likely be horrified by those others.
Having trouble getting the instant back air consistently
You have to buffer all inputs to combo. So like RIGHT before the jab animation ends do exactly what he says in the one two three rhythm. When he said that, it was the EXACT rhythm that works for me
Well, to get the Jab => B-air combo, I discovered that doing an initial dash then cancelling the lag via performing the F-tilt, then pressing L/R 1/2 frames later can make it miles easier. Or, you can mix-up by doing a Sliding F-tilt. For that, dash, then again but in the opposite direction, and finally, use the f-tilt in the direction you were initially dashing in! Below are the controls assuming the target is to your right:
Jab => B-air combo: A, wait, ->, ), L/R, ->.
Sliding F-tilt: ->, ).
There's all the help I can offer. Keep in mind though, all inputs must be performed IMMEDIATELY.
EDIT: I used a Nintendo Switch Pro controller, so it might be less effective with a GameCube Controller.
Barry Owen The sliding F-tilt is actually a pretty good mix up, I learned it pretty early when I started playing competitive smash and it’s a great way to catch people jumping back to ledge when they think they are safe.
Having trouble *getting* the instant back air
3:26
thanks :>
How do you execute this with a full hop?
@@shidouast can’t, you can only go for rar if you want a full hop
@@yes8207 so, i have to do a rar in order to do palu down throw to b-air?
@@shidouast not sure about Palu, but at low percents I assume down throw bair can be attack canceled and when they’re launched too high like at higher percents you need to rar bair
Straight forward
Cut-to-the-chase
Clear german accent
is how you make a perfect tutorial on youtube
getting better for those struggling your holding c stick too long at least that's what i did, it's not when the sword starts swinging it's on the moment he turns if that helps.
Thank you i was having trouble. I needed this for capt. Falcon
Same
i main falcon and secondary chrom so this is kinda important lol
Lmao if anyone has helpful tips I’d appreciate it, also a falcon main and I’ve seen hella tutorials and don’t really get it correctly with the inputs.
It’s a two frame window to cancel the tilt into a jump, holy shoot it’s hard
But is worth it because it save you from repositioning roy
Palu main here; I've been pulling my hair out trying to figure out how to do the d-throw -> bair combo I see all the time in tournaments, and this video finally helped me do it!
Still need to practice a bit more, but at least i know what I'm doing now.
Literally same heree
Glad I could help! At high percent you'll want to full hop the back air so you'll need to do a RAR from initial dash. I have a tutorial on that as well ;)
That IRAR guide is LITERALLY the best I've ever seen. You made it so clear and straightforward!! Props dude.
Thank you!
@@DaKlink47 no problem, gotta thank you again for providing the easiest to understand guide on this tech
I'm trying to perfect jokers fair 1 into instant back air and this helped tremendously. Thanks!
I know this is late, but if you still play, you should try fair 1 into fair 1 drag down into down smash
Im working on it for nair into bair with joker
I have a recommendation for those who can't do the standard, as in you run towards the opponent, then RAR. You should do the dash, but instead of flicking the C-stick before jumping, turn in the opposite direction, use L/R to jump, then immediately flick the C-stick in your opponent's direction.
EDIT: The inputs must be performed VERY quickly, I mean your fingers must look like they're mashing.
Hey, I see that you posted a another comment( not this one) about how to do a instant back air a lot easier. If possible can you do a video
Thanks for the instant b-air tip. I just tested Link, Joker, and Bowser, and it seems like you have to input jump + forward within 2 frames of the back tilt
1:39 I don't know why I laughed so hard at that whimper during Bair. Lol
😂
This is the best attack cancel video out, everyone wants to overcomplicate it an look knowledgeable. ❤❤❤
Thank you!
you can actually do a RAR back air after the initial dash without doing an attack cancel, the only thing you need to do its forward then u tap the upper left corner of ur control stick and at the same time tap jump, now ur in the air, to do the back air u just tap forward and A or if u use the c stick just tap forward, at first its a bit trickier but if u practice and be patient it gets easier.This is just if ur facing right, but, if u want to do it in the other direction just do the same thing but reversed.
Of the 3 videos I watched on these techniques, not lying, this is the one where I got it (probably because of Roy)
Dang! I've had trouble doing the jab bair on Chrom but thanks to this i've instantly got it with 90% consistency. Gotta practice a bit more to perfect it more but that instant progress.
Thank you so much!
Glad it helped ☺
you use google chrome gtfo
I never even thought of setting a shoulder button to jump. Thank you!
Very helpful for many things in my experience, never went back
Super helpful dude, I was wondering how how the pros did it
Wow.... you actually helped me figure this out.... why does everyone else make it sound so difficult lol it feels like your pressing everything at the same time but your not haha def takes lots of practice but I’m excited as hell now thank you!!
Glad it helped!
That's why I swing the wrong way when I try to fair and drift backwards. Thank you.
I have literally been doing this the hard way. as in dash and quickly turn around, jump and back air. I did it the hard way and made it difficult for myself. And I could barely land them
So all of yall suck it cause I did it the hard way. You guys and you attack cancels 😂
Video was super helpful by the way
Great help! My back airs have been atrocious in ultimate.
Best jair guide on youtube. Thanks alot brother
This video was fantastic! Thanks bro I now know how to attack cancel and can bring my Roy to the next level
This technique is really cool but it’s so precise that I don’t really see myself using it in real matches.
So much more complicated than I thought
I have my own version of a doing a RAR however I have both of my back L buttons set to jump (L1, L2) and then do a quick ➡️⬅️ then press both jump buttons at the same time along with flicking the c stick to where your opponent is and you get a RAR
you can acheive the same result by pressing one jump button, if you press turn around and jump at the same time you keep your forward momentum while jumping backwards, if you press forward back on cstick you will get frame perfect rar's every time
I typically just flick my control stick in the opposite direction then jump and do bair however I may give this a try to see which I find better or prefer so thanks for the tip I'll be sure to share this with my friends for them to learn it as well
Incredibly helpful
Thanks I have this vid saved and going to pratice this when I get home
This is so helpful with Young Link combos
Thank you so much! I still don’t always get it, but I’m sure I can get it down to a science soon
Gutes Video,jetzt ist üben angesagt 😂
💪
Good Video , btw are you German? (cause grammer and stuff)
Thanks!
Yes I am
i like how his grammar is what gave it away to you and not the accent
Thanks man also be more confident there's nothing to be afraid of lol and you can reset it position by pressing l r and a
Thanks for the nice comment =)
Awesome video helped me get it down in 5 minutes
Glad it helped :)
Huh. I never knew you could buffer a back air by starting the animation for a tilt attack before jumping. Thanks!
0:21 woahh
Thanks a lot for this, this definitely helps me out a lot.
Solid video man! Very helpful!
Oh my god you have help me so much I'm a roy main this is gonna help my gameplay so much thank you man so much
Roy is cool :)
@@DaKlink47 Yes very much so
Danke für die Tipps
Gerne, freut mich wenn's hilft :)
Eyy Mega gut gemacht, den deutschen Akzent hört man auch raus lol. Mit Ryu kann man so den leichten F Tilt in einen RAR confirmen, wenn der Gegner nach innen DIet. Ich hab das auch nur so verstanden wie du es erklärt hast.
Hab das mal bei nem japanischen Ryu gesehen, aber Bairs bei den FGCs sind ja sowieso nervig wegen dem automatischen Umdrehen. Jetzt kann ichs, danke.
Freut mich, dass ich dir helfen konnte :)
Amazing video clear and concise
:)
Great video, thanks bro.
Glad you like it :)
Nice vid, you can claw grip instad of having a shoulder button jump
This is very eye opening. And holy crap I got a lot more practice and patience to deal with.
If he isn't from Germany I will main Duck Hunt
Btw nice video
PS: Ich finde es immer wieder süß wenn deutsche Englisch reden. Weiß net wieso aber es erfüllt mich irgendwie Freude xd
but... but DH is good :o ;-;
duck hunt is good, lol don't criticize a character if you probably never really learned them lol
a dunkhunt reached the top 8 from the last evo
@@robinflb8791 Its still a boring character lol
Thx bro this was amazing
Just tried this last night and im able to do it 2 times out of 20 attempts. Are you seriously telling me that these pros are pulling this shit off at a consistent rate, placing high in tournaments?? This is absolutely nuts. Although I am on the joycons, I still don’t think it would be any easier on the original GC controller lol.
It definitely takes a while getting used to but yeah, ESAM for example is super consistent with it
Excellent video! Thank you very much. I love your accent by the way!
Oh wow thanks that actually means a lot lol :)
Very helpful thanks - subscribed
I keep trying to do the instant back air but I always keep either doing forward air or backwards facing back airs
You are doing the backwards facing back airs by pressing jump before you do c stick backairs. I also am inputting fair but idk why, but probably not jumping fast enough
Great video! Love the accent btw!
Thank you! :)
Nice guide thanks, it helps much (and dobt worry ur english is great only with a strong accent) but as a fellow german i dont mind to much
Thank you :)
Thank you for the explanation!!!
thanks!
I hope MySmashCorner collabs with you!!!
Great video ^^
I would love to see more of this. Keep it up !
Thank you :)
thank you it was very helpful for me! 🤗
Glad I could help :)
Is it possible to do AC aerials other than B-air? Maybe you want an instant reverse U-air?
Also, is it possible to the full hop variants too?
You can do reverse up airs to do full hop cancels just hold the jump button
Reverse Nair and Up-air are possible with this technique. For Reverse Nair let go off the Control Stick right after the initial dash. For Reverse Up-air do the same but flick the control stick upwards when you press jump.
Full hops are not possible with this method.
Ah, this makes so much easier to get short hop needles > bair haha 😅
Hello,
When doing the jab bait combo for Roy. Do you use the rar method or attack cancel method?
Are there any situations that one would be better/easier?
Since both methods work it's probably best to just find out what you're more comfortable with. At high percent you might need a full hop bair though so that's when you would need to RAR.
This is crazy is it useful for every character or are their only some characters? Marth/Wolf main btw
I don't know if every character gets true combos with it but being able to do this can't hurt if your back air is good
I think wolf can get down throw instant bair but I'm not sure. Marth could cover ledge jump or get a nice read, but again not a main of either. Honestly I sorta main Ridley and I don't use it
really struggling to this going left. any pointers. I have the right side down and assume doing it left should be opposite but it's just not working.
It's harder for me going to the left as well. But yeah like you said it is the exact opposite so just needs more practice.
I solved the issue, learn to only “half-press” the trigger while performing this technique.
Beforehand I could ONLY get it consistently while facing the right side of the stage, and it would only work 50% of the time while facing to the left.
However, after an hour of labbing I discovered that if you only press the trigger down halfway it work almost EVERY TIME, on both sides. 👍🏻
finally wanted to figure out what this was and this was helpful lol
but I play in a claw so my thumb uses the stick and my pointer is on Y😂 so no fancy button config for me. Players using this grip can even do Roy’s Jab in to Attack cancel backair.
But if people need that jump on a shoulder go ahead. You’ll just need to adjust and not press that button for shielding.
This guide was helpful ^^. But I ran into a problem, i did the controls but I Bair the opposite direction of my opponent. What did I do wrong?
You have to press forward with the control stick. Otherwise you go the wrong direction.
That happens when you jump before flicking the c-stick.
Try focusing on doing the c-stick first
@@DaKlink47 Thank you so much!
Very useful, thank you
This helps a lot!
CPT. Falcon using attack cancelling for combos
Did you also come here after the Fatality video? haha
@@Groobles64 nah but I did see the video lol
@@Groobles64 YEP. lol I need to learn this, I guess because Captin Falcin looks too much fun.
Thx Now I can do an instant Bair with Little Mac
Very helpful
thank you so much dude, you are the best
:)
I've been practicing for months and i still cant do it more than 50% of the time. I'm beginning to think I just can't really do it because of my tiny hands or something.
Same, dont worry youre not alone
It is not consistent.
could be controller, but this is a really bad way to achieve it just learn manual instant rars
Start by practicing at half speed. Learn how long you have to cancel the tilt (i think its the 2 start up frames of a move, fast but very doable). Practice only moving without drifting, then incorporate drifting. Then, (if you play roy or chrom) add jab for a kill confirm
Thanks dude
This was great.
Like and 1000 thumbs up, everyone else on the web has been dog shit at explaining it and i got this down in 5 mins with your input and explanation of it. Thank you.
Much appreciated, glad I could help!
Thank you
at the 5 minute mark when you are describing the instant dash cancel back air... thingy, you say to hold the movement stick through the c stick cancel, how does this not result in a dash attack?
Thank you
Nice thanks
Damn it i don't like the tap jump xD
I guess I'll have to stick with just normal RAR
You don't have to use tap jump, you can just set jump to a shoulder button or play claw to simultaneously hit jump and the c stick
When trying to do either of them I find I back air in the other direction a lot of the time. I use a hori pro controller. Anyone know why I might getting the Bair to go the wrong way?
It happens when you accidentally press jump before you flick the c-stick.
I also use the hori and it works well for me with both of these, the RAR is very easy for me but I think only because I've been doing it a while, the attack cancel one seems tricky but I think with more practice it will also be easy. The hori is not the issue
Damn, gooood stufff
I'm using pro with jump being my Right bumper and my right joystick being tilt I also main doc. Any tips on when to time tilt plus jump cause Docs movement is pretty slow when it comes to turning the opposite direction when dashing..
Can you do the first one without tilt c stick? So you jab, and during jab animation you buffer left on control stick + A to do a backward Ftilt, and then just move control stick to the right as soon as the attack comes out and jump forward (within first couple frames of the tilt) to get the instant back air?
I end up turning around most of the time when trying to do the initial dash rar? What am I doing wrong?
I'm assuming you're doing a forward air in the wrong direction. That's what happens when you press jump before flicking the c-stick. Focus on using the c-stick first.
@@DaKlink47 Thank you very much mate! that was exactly it!
@@francescodellarciprete80 Glad it helped! =)
Does this technique work for instant up air and down airs? Asking because often i want an instant down air with snake so I push c stick down and jump but an up air comes out. Just wondering if the same type of reversal c stick mechanic is occurring for me.
Yeah no way I'm ever learning this
Its not really a tech but..
Can you explain the new 0-death of luigi to me? Or make a video?
(downthrow backwards fair looking away from our opponent, nair backwards fair nair zair to the opponent up b)
Oof I honestly don't know much about Luigi and wasn't aware, that there is another zero to death for him. Where did you learn about this though?
@@DaKlink47
I got it from this video ruclips.net/video/TX7xhSucu2U/видео.html. it starts arround 9:45.
In case the link doesnt work, here is the short form: /watch?v=TX7xhSucu2U&t=584s.
and the original video is from the beefy smash doods, the video title is "Duck Hunt's Can Is FLOATING In Mid-Air [SMASH REVIEW #11]"
Is one method better than the other?
You'll cover more distance if you do the initial dash first.
It depends on what you are trying to do
Hey bro, not sure why but when I do the back airs, they always face the other way and never hit my opponent
The Tilt and Jump need to be within two frames of each other. Takes a lot of practice.
Hey :)
sounds to me like you might accidentally be inputting jump before you flick the c-stick. Try to focus on doing the C-Stick flick first. The inputs also have to be within a very short frame window so just keep practicing and you'll get it.
Ok thanks I’ll try again later
that is literally amazing. did you discover that?
I didn't discover it myself no
Is it only possible to do it with a short hop, or can you do full hop aerials too?
Attack Cancel only works with short hops
Sometimes I manage to input a full hop bair. Which is actually pretty good because it connects way better after the jab than the short hop version. I just don't know how to get the full hop bair consistently... Does anybody know the input for it?
ruclips.net/video/Pxxx4WHrTT8/видео.html
back air the normal way seems just as fast and much more consistent to me
Poulbleu Therian this lets you do things like Roy's jab into back air consistently while facing your opponent. Turning around sometimes just takes too long and with attack cancelling you don't lose momentum from turning around the normal way.
Is this even possible with joker? Didnt get it once
It's possible with every character