Coffee And Crime Time: What Joel Guy Did To His Parents
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“How to get away with murder when you think you’re an evil genius, but you’ve grossly overestimated your intelligence.” 😂😂😂
Its hilarious honestly that he wrote down a step by step plan and left it at the house, in his room like come on buddy you're clearly such a fucking idiot lol
lol- that was sooo funny
The accuracy 😂😂😂😂😂
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I literally LOL'd when she said that😂😂😂
It is such a testament to this woman’s character that both of her stepdaughters loved her so much.
True, it fucking angers me that he did that to his family, she was obviusly a good role model to them( his sisters) and he decided to destroy it out of spite...
She has 3 stepdaughters, but everyone seemed to love her. Her friends and coworkers and family.
Sarah Jarrett Completely heartbreaking. What a monster to do this to your own family, a family who was loving and would do anything for their children. Absolutely disgusting.
@@pretzelmaker3122 apparently so! I could drop off the face of the earth and not 1 single person would think to come and check on me.. I have agoraphobia and hardly see or talk to anyone anymore in my family so...
True, but how does he get to be who he is ? The parents do seem to have spoiled him too much...cutting him off then was just to late... how does the saying go, be cruel to be kind ? (To all crazies out there: no, I am not saying the parents deserved it or they had it coming etc., no but some kind of parenting does factor in some kind of reaction of his, at least his laziness and ungratefulness)
Lmao the fact that he killed his parents to avoid getting a *paying* job in the real world BUT now he is going to be assigned a random job in prison and forced to work for *FREE* for the rest of his life lmaooo
Exactly!!!🤦♀️🤦♀️
Karma is a bitch I love it
He is still getting free roof over head and three squares. That's just mob boss murders. Holy sh**t.
Actually they do pay u to work in prison but its only like 5 cents an hour
Big Bubba maybe in your state lmao
“I’ll pin it on my dad. They’ll never figure out how he managed to dissolve himself in acid, and then pour himself down the toilet long after killing both himself and my mom 😎 checkmate, police department”
He wasn't so bright 😩
Lol exactly!
I was thinking that too. Like how are you gonna pin this on your dad to make it look like murder/suicide if he's dismembered and soaking in lye??? Genius my ass..
He didn't plan on all the cuts & injuries to his hands after brutally stabbing 2 people dozens upon dozens of times. He paused his plans, drove back to BR to get medical treatment & planned on going back to finish his plans. Didn't take in to consideration that people would notice real fast that Guy's were not communicating or showing up to work.
I know, right?!?😅🤣
I love how her boss was the one to initiate the wellness check but my boss would just fire me and keep on going if I didn't show up for a few days
🤗🤗🤗
LOL! Too funny ...but how true!😂😂😂
I was thinking this too. I walked out on a job recently and not person called and said “hey are you coming in today “ they did not care 😂 they probably assumed I wasn’t coming back bc I let it be known I hated the job but STILL! I could’ve been dead at my house
Right!!! A few years back at my job we had a girl named Kris no called no show & my boss/ supervisor when qe couldn't reach her so she called 911 & come 2 find out her husband had committed a murder suicide the night b4! But we all had known she had been an domestic violence relationship for awhile bc she would come 2 work wit black eyes & bruises along wit all types of scratches on her arms & face. I miss her all the time man bc she was my buddy! 🙏 guys please take those types of relationships seriously & don't ignore the signs of the VIOLENCE PLEACE!!!!! 🙏 Stay blessed & healthy!
LOL same
I thank the Lord that their daughter didn't get to the house first and find them. It's traumatic enough.
Right?! That would’ve just be extra sad
For real. Knowing what he did to them is bad enough, but to actually see it?
Those officers have PTSD from that grisly crime scene, no doubt.
I was thinking this too. Thaaank God
Also in a weird way glad the dog was spared despite being locked in a room for a few days
Ye. So sad. 😭 My prayers going up for that whole family. 🙏🕯🌻💯%!
I wish everyone had a friend like Lisa had or shannan watts had. Someone who within a day realizes something isn’t right and doesn’t let up until you get the police to actually be involved.
It would be a different world if everyone did. Different, better world.
Alex Green Excellent point and I hope you have friend's like this! I have those type of friend's and I consider myself to be extremely fortunate! I'm so very thankful they are in my life..I to hope everyone has friend's that really know you and your habits..They don't come around often so I try my best to treat them with the same love...respect and support ❤ Stay safe everyone! xoxo hydie..
@@awfulaudience4329 I absolutely agree with you one hundred percent! it would be AMAZING! Have a great day!! xoxo hydie 🖤 Stay safe and healthy..
I truly don't. I'd be decaying for months.
We might not all have a friend like this, but we all can still try to be that friend for someone.
imagine being a defense lawyer where your client literally wrote out his plans to kill his victims
I’d literally quit my job 😆
@@maggierose5658 my son was a defense atty MOST of the time.....BUT, God help
U if he found out u were 100% GUILTY......He definitely would bow out.
He'd find u an atty who didnt CARE if u were guilty
You deserve a good defense anyway.....so yeah, he sort of "quit his job" if he discovered u were guilty as sin and had lied to him...🤬
Reminds me of “Dinner for Schmucks” when Liz Banks plays an attorney. The guy in her office is on tape committing a crime, saying his name but claiming innocence.
@@CC-fo7tr that was Role Models not Dinner for Schmucks. I watch Role Models a lot it is one of my favorite movies. 😂 The part you're referring to is when Paul Rudd runs in her office while she's talking to her idiot client & says let's get married & the client says Mazel Tov & she breaks up with him instead but she's showing that video of her idiot client to him robbing his work place & saying his name right before Paul Rudd bursts through the door.
Lol smh
He forgot to write on his list :
"Destroy this notebook so it won't be used as evidence against me."
Right? What an IDIOT.
😂
lol
We all know every successful murderer wrote down every one of their ideas and plans in an easy to locate journal.
Seriously 😂🤦♀️
This man's laziness is astounding. To kill his parents out of laziness and then not even clean up after out of laziness? Allowing himself to be caught? He's where he belongs.
He had to go back to baton rouge for his alibi. I guess he thought an alibi was needed more than disposing of the evidence. Most people assume he was
thinking the bodies and evidence would all burn in the house fire. 🤪
@@midnighttennessee8904 yeah. They say his plan was that the stove would catch fire from his mom's head in the pot.
He went back to Baton Rouge because during the struggle he cut his hand badly and since he didn’t have health insurance he went back to BR to go to the free clinic at his university because he was afraid he was going to lose his thumb. He drove back to his parents house to finish what he started but saw all the police and turned around and went back to BR. He never anticipated his mothers coworker calling the police to check on her.
My thoughts exactly!!
Hard to double fist stuff your face when you hurt your thimb
Imagine planning out a whole murder plot but you can't plan out how to write up a job application
Can’t relate 😂
☝💯 THIS!!!
With a fraction of the effort it takes to plan the murder of his very own mother and father while evading authorities; this idiot could have found a job and enjoyed the rest of his life.
Lazy unless it benefits him
@@robinlyn2797 damn looks like I’m a sociopath lmao
I appreciate the dark humour in this comment section.
This happened down the street from me. I know the main investigator on the case and did get a chance to speak to him. he said that he still sees that house in his sleep. IM so glad you covered it. it was over and beyond insane.
No way
It's surreal to be watching this and hear "Knox county sheriffs office" knowing thats what I'd hear if they came to my door 😅
damn i couldn't imagine living with that, especially the person who opened that pot.. jesus christ
The daughter summed it up when she said something like ‘I wonder if she even had the heart to fight back when she saw it was her own baby doing this to her’
Omg 💔
Holy 💔
absolutely heartbreaking 💔
That made me cry so sad 😭
That's heartbreaking. I couldn't imagine what his dad was thinking as well. That moment you realize it's either u or them.
I can't imagine doing this to anyone, let alone your own parents, what a creep. That poor dog wailing was heartbreaking
I'm glad he at least let the dog live. 😭😭😭😭😭
I know, my heart is so broken!!
I think he thought the house would burn so he was planning to kill that poor dog too. Also, by locking him in that hot bathroom for days the pup could’ve died too. So no credit for that either goes to this ?$&!?!&@“#*€£?!>!£££%#^*¥¥>!’.
Broke my heart
Michelle's testimony really moved me. The way she described Lisa's little habits and how she would dress and care for her loved ones. She really looked up to her. What a tragedy...
They were a very close family. He destroyed them
Same for me. It made me cry.
Me too! Broke my heart for her,
The way her co-workers were so concerned so quickly and called multiple times for law enforcement to check on her really speaks to the kind of person Lisa was too. So sad!
There are a ton of comments seemingly blaming the parents for how they raised their son, but keep in mind, even if you raise a complete spoiled brat, that isn't what turns someone into a psychopathic murderer. :O
It’s hard to imagine her being a bad mother when her step daughters adored her. Some people are just born monsters.
I don't think they are placing blame... Just stating a correlation. That's how I read most of those comments. They definitely were very, very far from bad parents.
I don't think its placing blame. More so acknowledging that without even meaning to they raise this monster poorly - everyone knows that doesn't mean they were deserving of death
I feel that he was a sicko his whole life and his mom, being the warm and loving woman she was, tried to appease him. They probably did spoil him a bit but that was only a minuscule contribution to his depravity. Compare him to his sisters. You can tell by looking at him that he is twisted. His sisters are relatively normal. Genes had a hand in this, not if he was spoiled or not, but that doesn’t change the fact that he lived parasitically off his parents’ dime.
I see this all the time and I don't get it. You can criticize a person's actions after they die while at the same time not blaming them or condoning their murder. I saw this on another case where a girl was killed by a guy who was mad that she wouldn't date him and when a comment saying that they wish girls were taught better to watch out for red flags in order to keep themselves safe, people got all mad about victim blaming.
I love the way you absolutely dragged his personality to filth. What an absolute waste of human being
I agree. Hate people like this
Stephanie: you may be feeling bad for Joel Jr.
Me: nope don’t worry girl please drag him
& she indeed did drag tf him ..made me happy
'This kid didnt even have a pot to piss in, that he bought himself. But fruit of the loom is beneath him.' 🤣🤣🤣 I love you stephanie lol
I'm a Misty Dawn myself. Always glad to see another.😀
@@mistydhudd I've never met another one in person, but like 3 on RUclips! What is this magical world?! Misty Dawn's unite! 🤣🤣
ikr!
I doubt he even bought those banana republic underwear. His mom probably did!
@@Lindsey0007 without a doubt, his mom bought them! He'd probably throw a temper tantrum at hanes! I mean, could you even imagine?!
Just imagine if Joel Sr. had been able to fully overpower his son.
I wish we lived in that timeline it'd be a much happier story.
I'm surprised he couldn't, fatty never worked a day in his life
That dog crying for his family that he heard die is heartbreaking
There is no love like that of a dog's
@@xxsp00kyxx23 the dog loves his poo more
Yes. The dog and that mournful howling. Animals always know..
@@ibrokeintourhouseandstoleu5453 shows just how little you know!!
It's really terrible. So sad hearing him wail for rescue
I love that he's trying to set up something that looks like a murder/suicide... but then is also planning on cutting up and destroying his father's body. You know... one of those suicides where you also completely destroy your own body after you're dead.
I was thinking that maybe he wanted to get rid the body entirely, like dissolve it and bury it in the desert like breaking bad, so they think hes on the run, but then he just... left the body in a box.
@@caoilfhionndunbar Haha yeah that makes sense or if the house had caught fire like I think he was hoping, then maybe he could say the body burned up but also, then the note would burn up too?
Tag, what a Moran! Did he really think , that he’d get away with it? Do this killer types actually think they will get away with murder , do they just kind of hope, or do they not care ? I’ve read, that sociopaths/ psychopaths actually do not have a stress response .... that they do not panic, like a normal person would.
@@sheldoman The fire would just char the bodies, not completely carbonize them to the point of ashes. So his dismembered body parts would have been found quite whole and they could identify the dad, and his dismembered body parts. The dude is dumb as a brick. He wanted to get away with the brightest murder scene, but he wanted to execute every plan he wrote down simultaneously... 🤦 I'm so glad he was so dumb and lazy. Hope he rots in prison.
@@iulia.bianca.b Oh totally and yeah he's a moron, I was just trying to figure out his rationale. Like maybe he thought it would burn completely. I honestly think plan A was dismember bodies but that was too difficult so he went with plan B of staging a murder/suicide and then hoping a house fire destroys evidence and was too dumb to put 2 and 2 together.
The most messed up part of all this is that he probably never put thus much effort into anything as his own parents murder! This is so disturbing 😳
Right!!!?????
As I watched Stephanie's video show how much thought and effort this disgusting individual put into murdering his parents, I immediately thought "You could've just got a JOB, JACKASS!" 🤬
So true!!!!!!!!!!
Yup
@@triceyg2014 exactly
That planning was extremely detailed. How ironic he thought of everything except that fact that his parents were people and had relationships and lives and friends and family who would miss them and realize immediately that they were missing
Makes sense if you think about it. Relationships, lives and friends were not part of his world
As a psychopath with almost zero personal ties it wouldn't have occurred to him.
I don't think it's ironic, because that would imply it was intelligent, not just detailed and convoluted.
You notice how the things he got wrong are the most basic, and how the things he put the most thought in were things that would probably sound clever to an idiot?
Joel focused on things that were comparatively irrelevant to the big picture. Like, if you're planning on framing your dad, why do you need to chemically disinter the body?
The mournful baying of the dog is just heartbreaking!
The dog wasn't mourning. Dogs don't mourn or have the ability to grieve like people do. The dog was distressed by being locked away, not being in its regular routine, seeing strange people in the house and all the commotion going on around it.
@@Billybloop dogs and many animals routinely mourn and its well studied in domestic and wild animals.
vcahospitals.com/know-your-pet/do-dogs-mourn
www.akc.org/expert-advice/health/do-dogs-grieve-other-dogs/
www.bluecross.org.uk/pet-advice/how-help-grieving-dog
www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-we-need-to-take-pet-loss-seriously/
www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/do-animals-experience-grief-180970124/
www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-playing-field/200911/do-dogs-know-death
@@Billybloop it is likely both mourning and distressed
patriarch paramour at that point it was probably mostly distress because he would have just been upset about being locked in and not realizing it was because his owners were dead
Dogs mourn and they have the ability to mourn.
I love how he thinks he's an evil genius but he writes a complete list of damning evidence
Yeah. That had me laughing despite the grim subject matter. How'd he think that was wise???
Complete with spelling errors. 😒
Such a loser
Remember to bring evil plan with me and not leave as evidence
Wonder where he took notes from?
seeing the mother walking leisurely out of walmart thinking she's just having a routine day buying some paper towels/or toilet paper and some other stuff, not knowing she's on her way to being brutally murdered .. by her own son no less .. is quite eerie to say the least
It was seeing that damn pot on the body cam, so close... and then the dismembered hands just at the edge of the frame. Chills for days
Honestly, it's a godsend that Jennifer made the phone call before Michelle got there, I couldn't imagine what it would be like seeing your father, and someone you could consider a second mother like that.
Denatured proteins don’t disappear. An egg doesn’t vanish into a wisp when you cook it. No wonder he spent 7 years in college and didn’t get a PhD.
Burn
Haha I love this
I thought he was only in for four? But either way this comment stands lol
😂😂😂 this is fantastic 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I was going to type something similar, lol, how embarrassing for him! Huge waste of money, he came away with nothing! 🙄
"you may be feeling a little pang of pity for sad Joel Jr...."
Nope, not at all.
Not even a little bit
Tbh I do
@@Mike-td7dc why?
Nope. Not a single one here.
@@Mike-td7dc is it because you maybe think he wasn’t made to feel like part of the family? I think he always had a choice. I used to only see my dad in the summers for years and I still made a great connection with all my brothers and sisters my dad had with my step mom. So I can’t imagine he was treated poorly. I can’t imagine that because if his family didn’t care about him, his parents wouldn’t have paid for all of his needs after he became an adult. I definitely don’t believe in the Affluence defense. But I’m super curious why you feel bad. I slightly did but then I decided nah... he just was narcissistic, it’s all about him.
"You probably have pity for Joel Jr."
Nope. Not at all. Not one little ounce.
Nope. Me neither
NONE.
Exactly. Disgusting!!
NOPE!
Absolutely nothing. The guy is a freak.
You know it’s driving him crazy that he has no electronics... no RUclips, no video games, severely limited reading material.... and by the looks of him, he ate a lot of food, probably ordered whatever he wanted, whenever he wanted, on mommy’s tab... now he’s eating plain pasta with a side of peanut butter and mystery meat everyday.
i think we should bring back torture chamber
@@overcomingsins6334 I think that's rather regressive, mate. Not gonna help anyone learn a lesson, and all it would do is help someone else get their sick wishes on.
But keep posting brutal things online lol. It'll start a petition someday, I'm sure.
@@buzzfiend I believe torture should be brought back even in public but it should fit the crime.Eye for an eye and yes it would make pieces of shit think twice.Especially with the brazen bull method.
Yes these are the things that keep me out of trouble with the law. I like my freedom and my "luxuries".
Yes these are the things that keep me out of trouble with the law. I like my freedom and my "luxuries".
Isnt the point of a welfare check to check the welfare of the human being living at the residence? Not to check that the house is still there? Pretty sure that's all the first one did....
Edit:I feel like I should add up here that this is just a little joke. I'm not attacking the first officer or anything. I know based on what he seen from his visit, he couldn't have just entered the house. Could he have talked to the neighbors before leaving? Yes, but he didn't. We dont know his full reasoning, The important thing is that the work friend called back and they sent someone who was able to look closer, see something suspicious, and enter the house.
He probably knocked on the door and left. He should have talked with neighbors and come back to check
@@sixfeetundertheradar6080 I agree. I know he didn't have probable cause to enter on the first visit, but with no answer, he should have tried the neighbors.
Lol agreed
Exactly, no one thought the house got up and ran away. It was the humans within the residence that needed the welfare check. I shook my head after I heard that as well 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
Yeah I thought that. 🤣Check the house.
Moral of the story: If a grown man has a full Beanie Baby set... run.
🤣🤣
I hollered.
😆
Pretty much
@@pelviselvis3421 I came to agree with the comment above- but then I saw yoru username and died a little inside from happiness. 🤣
This was and is still huge news in Baton Rouge. Everything about this is just awful. Lisa Guy's coworker who called the police to request the wellness check is a real MVP.
I agree!! She was not going to back down!
Im from New Orleans and i remember hearing about this case
Sent chills down my spine
I had some classes with him. He was always really withdrawn, but I feel like I remember him making “off” comments.
Yup yup yup 3 daughters n her boss calls
@@hannypressley343 The boss was the first one who could have noticed her missing... it's just logical. Don't make anything more of it than it is.
This case makes me so angry and sad. Lots of people grow up with shitty parents/guardians and could only dream of having hardworking and loving parents. Any other kid would be so lucky to have Lisa and Joel Sr., as their parents, it’s so heartbreaking that their own son didn’t even appreciate them.
Omg!!! They gave him life and he stabbed and cooked his mother!? The dog crying in a hot laundry room for day's hurts to hear! That's one guy who needs to be gone from this earth!!! I hope the dog was at least saved and okay now.
I believe the dog was ok ❤️
I was looking for this comment, I just couldn't stand it if the dog was hurt too. I can watch true crime all day - but hurting animals - I just can't.
@@hannahsurbaugh9180 I didn't want any one to think i didn't care about the people but no one can help them now, the dog can be saved .
@Mayassocalledlife I don't believe anyone is showing apathy for couple's heinous murder. We're simply showing compassion and concern for the family pet who was left alive and suffering. As horrible as I feel about what this monster was capable of doing to his parents, I have to admit I too was wondering how their precious pet was doing. 💔
@Mayassocalledlife No one is saying that. Not even remotely.
He even FAILED to clean up the crime scene, story of his life lol. At least he's consistent throughout his life lol
I just can’t get over the fact that these 2 very normal and attractive people combined their DNA and somehow produced a creepy weird *thing* that looks like that
Lmaoooo literally what I was thinking
And the scary thing is that any one of us can have a child like that. It's all about chance.
That is crazy. You don't murder people based on yr looks.
🤣🤣🤣
They coddled him to death. He was a huge toddler
He wanted to blind his cell mate so he could have his own cell! I LOVED how the judge shaded him by saying he showed no remorse through entire trial & thought he was smart, but he wasn’t , which probably hurts him more to hear than murdering his parents!
I can’t believe he was simmering his mother’s head in a pot. What the actual frick. This guy is depraved.
my stomach turned when she said thats what was in the pot. i still feel queasy.
@Chancieskye17
I’m laughing out loud at “what the actual frick” for some reason. Thank you for that 😂
I hope his jail mates make his every day a living hell....
I can’t imagine being the one who took the lid off and realized what was in there!!! Crazy
It was his biological mother? What happened??
The dog crying for his mommy and daddy absolutely breaks me.
The dog couldn't know they were dead, he was locked away
@@random_duck1 you really think the dog wouldn't have been able to hear and maybe see the struggles? So sad that the dog probably heard the last moments of his owners as they were being killed....
@@random_duck1 Dogs have incredible hearing and senses. He definitely knew.
It was probably just crying for food, honestly. Dogs aren’t people, and you folks need to stop thinking they are.
@@anyalaASMR if a dog hear a human crying or screaming they won't interpret it as "this human is being murdered", you really think they think and interpret things like humans?
Lord, what a spoiled, lazy brat. He deserves whatever comes to him.
3 meals daily and free lodging for the rest of his life
Autistic
I don't want to be disrespectful but they raised that monster.. supporting him with money, not paying attention to how psychotic he is etc..
When his undies were brought up, I was legit waiting to hear that they had skid marks. When I heard that they were from Banana Republic, I was so relieved.
I’m surprised Banana Republic makes underwear in his size....
Omg I literally thought the same thing 😂🥴
Lmao glad I wasn't the only one
Yesss. I was expecting them to turn the undies around and show shit stains.
@@ASHl33164 LMAO
Imagine birthing, raising, providing for and loving your child and he does.....this.
Exactly what I was thinking
Well the parents or the mother had good intentions but obviously he had been infantilized and never left the womb... His last attempt was to kill his mother.
Even more disturbing is parricide happens so often. As well as fillicide. Truly goes against nature
Right??? For the only reason is because they won’t take care of you for the rest of your life.
This is why we need 99th trimester abortion.
Man, watching her at Walmart, u wish u could tell her DO NOT GO HOME.
I was thinking the same..
Oh my God. I was thinking the same thing!!! DON'T GO HOME!! Ugh. 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Right 😫😫😫it’s depressing
@@MsChappy77 -😞👍😞😽😽
Right? Same thought I had when I saw Shanann Watts walk up to her front door!
How are you gonna leave the notebook you wrote all your plans in... AT THE MURDER SCENE 🥴
🤣🤣 exactly
People do it more often than you'd think! I've seen several cases where the 'smart' murderers made exactly the same mistake! I, on the other hand, would probably overlook something else, but definitely remember to destroy the 'to do' list. LOL
Just think. BTK left his knife at the Otero's backyard when he cut the phoneline. Dumbass drove back in his own car to get it. 😂
too lazy to take it?
@@VASI_LIKI No. He forgot it 😂
Can't get over what he did to his mom's head. Killing your loving parents for money already seems like peak evil but somehow he managed to make it even worse.
Case aside, Lisa’s employer made probably the best and most clear 911 call I think I’ve ever heard.
I especially appreciated that she mentioned that there was a dog in the house and that he wasn't aggressive. She also gave them the dog's name so if there was a situation, the dog would know the cops weren't complete strangers.
The USDOJ called the shooting of pet dogs by cops an 'epidemic' and about 30 pet dogs are shot by cops in the US *per day.* So it was nice she warned them that the dog was friendly so they would be less inclined to murder it.
Eternatty She worked for her quite some time and then there was a mini-party organised on that day to have everyone a chance to say goodbye to her. Rightly so Lisa was looking forward to this small celebration.
It’s so sad.
My guess is that its a very clear call bc she hadn't known what happened to them yet. If she had been the one to find them, she probably would have been hysterical.
@@sint0xicateme yes it was the mention of the gentle dog I loved the most. That poor feller, and hearing his crying, I just wanted to wrap him up in a hug 😭
I'm severely mentally ill and for this reason, my parents still help support me at 27 because my life is a mess right now, but I still have a translation job to help pay the bills with what I can even with my circumstances. And I'm eternally grateful to them for helping me get my life in order. This man disgusts me.
And that's fine! I'm on the Autistic Spectrum and live with chronic migraines (and other heath problems), and at various times over my adult life my mum has helped me out with making ends meet. The difference between us and this guy is that we *appreciate* that help, express appreciation, have actual relationships with our families, and don't see our parents as ATMs. And I'm pretty sure that neither of us are planning to kill anyone, either. ;)
Still, I know how tough it is when you want to be making your own way, and your own body/mind get in your way! I'd been doing work I loved as an Art Therapist for just under a year when the pandemic hit, and I got sick with COVID the literal day after the day my program was put on indefinite hold due to the pandemic. I'm *still* recovering, months later, living (just barely) on disability, and low on cash again. And I can't stand the sense of entitlement that some people show, when I just want to be back to supporting myself decently again!
@Violet Right! And that's what people outside of our situations need to understand, when dealing with people who have invisible disabilities. We AREN'T this guy, and we don't want to be! And I'll bet we've all done as much as we can to help out out our fams when we can too!
I have autism. I have a job and live on my own. I sometimes stay at my mom’s on weekends. Right now, I’m staying with her because she hurt her knee and I need to be there for her. There’s no justification for what this sicko did. Mental illness doesn’t explain his actions. His actions do.
"Joel liked to stay in his room and watch you tube."
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I feel personally attacked
Miss S 🤣😂🤣 same here!
meee too lol
Same
Same
Damn, me too!
Joel junior looks like some rebooted Penguin character.
They sound like a really stable family unit and it’s disgusting that he decided to tear that apart when he’d had so much love and support. Ungrateful penguin tool.
How would his dad dismember himself?? He wasn’t all that bright was he?
I think he planned to get rid of dads body and leave hers. Idk . That's all I could come up with.
Yes I think that's what he planned. His dad disappeared possibly killed himself after killing his mom since no body will be found.
Exactly what I was thinking
Not at all. Actually very opposite of bright. A complete idiot
I was coming here to say exactly that! Too many crappy plans, and he couldn't even stick to one. What a dingus.
The sound of the dog howling KILLED me. That poor baby.
is that what matters to you ?
@@davidbell8401 Among everything else obvious...YES- a suffering animal SHOULD matter to someone. I'm sorry it doesn't to you. That's sad.
And yes, I know that question was not directed at me. Sorry Lisa .
@@kahealani9 in the context of things it does not matter. it is annoying when someone is whining about a useless dog when there are more serious issues.
The dog was saved to btw.
@@davidbell8401 The sound of that dog howling, probably starving, IS heartbreaking! That dog witnessed his owners be butchered and was then left in extreme heat to suffer!! The ENTIRE horrific murder, including the neglect of the dog, is heartbreaking.
That poor dog knowing someone is there and crying out for help.
He probably even sensed all the evil around him maybe even heard/witnessed it and couldn’t do anything. 😭 Reminds me of the creepy story of the POV of a dog when the owner is killed and he can’t open the door.
hearing that in the police footage seriously fucking broke me. 😔
That part just broke me, i really want an update on the pupper. I hope he's doing well and is happy and loved
@@kadeelacayo4806 yes
@@itissomethingnow exactly, I truly hope one of the step siblings adopted the doggo; or at the very least a stranger with a loving home. that poor puppy went through so much. imagine not being able to grasp having compassion for an innocent animal ... like of course it's atrocious what happened to those two poor souls that were needlessly and brutally murdered, but the dog actually had to endure being locked in the laundry room WHILE they were murdered. surviving trauma in this already cruel world is a terrible fate, i'd know firsthand. i'm glad there are other people like you that have compassion.💖
While awaiting sentencing, Joel wrote a letter claiming he dreamt of gouging out his cell mate's and other prisoners eyes out. He felt he should not be around others. He set himself up for solitary confinement with only 1 hour recreation per day. He still does not have to work.
To obtain these random store surveillance showing Joel Jr, detectives probably had to comb through hours and hours and hours of footage of surveillance videos. Especially with the fact that he went to random locations.. hats off to the people behind the scenes that we don’t see, who take down these bad guys.
yes ma’am. And stop and think about the random shoppers coming into contact with this psychopath while he bought his murderous supplies.
Not to detract from any of that but if they found grocery store receipts, they usually have a time stamp on them so it could help narrow down the times they need to watch the surveillance videos.
There was also a post it note in his suitcase with information on where to buy the food grade hydrogen peroxide with a store name... I'm not sure if she covered that information but it came out in the trial... I watched the entire trial
How the hell can someone be so horrible? Your parents, the people who have loved you unconditionally, the people who have been so forgiving, the people who, even though you act like you hate them, still invite you to holiday dinners with food ready on the table and a smile on their faces... I just... I can’t even wrap my head around this. I’m genuinely disgusted and infuriated. This man deserves the worst. I normally feel bad for all people, even if they do bad things, but this guy doesn’t deserve anyone’s pity.
I've said before, this man just didn't become psychotic as an adult, he had to have been troubled since childhood. I have the feeling he was so troubled that his parents did everything for him to keep him pacified until they couldn't do it any longer.
I'd bet he most likely tortured and killed animals as a child. I hope more comes out about his younger years.
Oh most definitely. He has been holding onto this urge for a while it seems like.
He was also most likely trying to spur on the decomp process and kill the family dog slowly by locking him up and turning the heat on 90° in the house.
💯
Completely agree.
I agree with you. It’s so sad.
good point, Preston!
It’s so sick to think he used their money to buy the weapons that would kill them.
I think that he was boiling his mother's head on the stove because he was trying to strip it of all the flesh so he could keep her skull as a trophy. Kind of like an extra little trinket he could stroke off his own ego to while he sat alone in his room his whole life. I think he had planned to come back and finish up but he left to take a break not something anyone would come looking for his parents which was his biggest flaw in his whole plan. He cared so little about his parents he didnt have the forethought to think anyone else cared about his parents apparently.
I saw that he came back- but there were cop cars in the driveway so he kept going.
Yup. And that he left the written up plans...just. Wtf man???
Yes this case reminds me of Big Ed who killed several people but his mom and her friend were the last people he killed. Why are so many serial killers into dismemberment? Like damn it’s not bad enough to just kill them now you have to cut them up and “boil” them ...WHAT IN THE ABSOLUTE HELL IS THAT?
He planned to set the house on fire since he was too lazy to clean up.
I think he abused her head and tried to get rid of all evidence of that. The step dads hands too.
I’m a little baffled that his parents had no idea how utterly devoid of empathy their son was.
Maybe he was good at faking it idk
I'm sure they knew he was an asshole I think they just didn't think he was a murderer
@@Dobviews SHe's not victim blaming, she's asking a question I think a lot of us have. Now, if she said they deserved what they got because they raised him - THAT'S victim blaming.
@@Dobviews I am very very sorry that happened to you, but girl you don't fucking know me, and I said what I said...THAT WAS NOT VICTIM BLAMING.
@@Dobviews You act as though intent doesn't matter, at all. It's all about you, and how you feel, and zero percent about how the other person feels, or their intent. As much as you may be hurt by words, giving people the benefit of the doubt is on you; Not them. If you want to crucify every single person, for saying something in a less-than-eloquent manner, then you're going to live in a very sad, angry, and lonely, space, in your head.
The statement was about whether the parents knew their son could be so awful; I see nothing about "they deserved it." It's a common question - "Were there any signs?"
You added the part about blaming the parents, in your head, in your assumption that the OP was malicious. The statement is not even REMOTELY close to asking a rape victim if they were wearing something which "attracted" rape. It's a valid question. It *could* be malicious, but you *assumed* it was. You jumped to attack-mode. You made the situation hostile.
You also need to learn that empathy is about understanding others' situations, without experiencing their pain, directly. It seems to be the case that you think people can only express empathy if they've gone through your exact situation. I hope you will consider avoiding personal attacks, by telling others they are unempathetic, and misdirecting by talking about your rape, just because someone disagrees with you.
How did that beautiful family have a son that looks like he's straight out of the Adam's Family.
He looks like the rat man from Harry potter
@@_fantomas Peter pettigrew
That's insulting to the Addams Family
I thought he looked like Gru from the Minion movies
Did I really hear right that he’s 27 😶 he literally looks 50 in the court footage
That officer "oh my God"
"Are you good Jeremy?"
I can't imagine
Hello how are you doing 😊😊
@@charlielanguellholt3877 creep
He is a Creep all right. He does this to EVERY user with a pretty girl in their avatar. Just gross.
I've never seen something like this. To literally sit down and write out his parents murders all bc he didn't want to work.
That was exactly the first thought that went through my head.
We need a shirt with "don't come for me. that's just my opinion. allegedly."
😂😂😂
I think there already is a shirt that says “don’t come for me”
I'll buy!!
Yea I need this b4 the holiday get togethers 🤞 bring it back Steph! Please 🙂
Yes please
I cant be the only one who is heartbroken that they didn’t let the dog out of the laundry room when they got upstairs. I understand why but poor baby.
I know, that poor guy. He knew something was very wrong :/
It hurt me so bad to hear, how cruel. He must of wanted to be pampered like the dog.
Yes, that distressed me massively too
And he was planning on killing the dog as well as his folks.
i know... i hope that dog is in a wonderful home
His Noah's Ark of Beanie Babies. Lmao. Also, I've noticed a lot of true crime youtubers have a tendency to apologize and/or quantify any negative opinions they have about these sick demons. I love that you just tell it like it is: that these criminals are just sadistic, pathetic little creeps.
Toy Story 3 in a much darker timeline
What was he like as a child?
It's so disturbing to know that the mom & dad paid for their own murder supplies, so disgusting!!! 🤮🤬🤢🤬
Okay so let me get this straight he wanted to make it look like his father did it. So his dad dismembered his limbs and put himself in a container upstairs to dissolve his own body?!?
Yup Jr didn't plan that properly.
I don't think anyone was meant to find his body.
It’s as also incredibly hard to stab yourself multiple times in the torso. Not very bright for a decade of college courses.
The son is every stereotype about trolls and incels in flesh. He's a walking stereotype.
@iqraa M'lady :'D
I bet he isn't an INCEL anymore!!! LMFAO!!!
Guys like that go on to have VERY "fulfulling" sexual relationships in prison
Hes every Antifa kid minus the colorful hair or drive to fight random people in the streets
@@norml.hugh-mann He’d still be an incel. IN (A JAIL) CELL, THAT IS.
@@norml.hugh-mann Oh dear :O :D
I know this is NOT the take-away, but Im really glad the dog is okay.
LMAO me too man me too
No it's not, but I thought that too and was happy. I currently have six rescues--- 5 dogs and 1 cat. The cat basically runs all of us. Lol Hopefully one of their daughters adopted the poor pup.
There is something so profoundly sad to me when animals are abandoned or abused. They cannot and will not ever understand why these things happen to them, unlike humans. It makes my heart ache. You’re definitely not alone!
Me too! I stumbled on the body cam video and the poor puppy was so distraught and just wanted his parents. It’s was heartbreaking.
Me too
I can’t stomach this case. Just utterly disgusted by this mans actions.. breaks my heart that his parents had to endure such pain.
It's totally sick. I can't believe he thought he would get away with it!!
Horrific. What an absolute pos.
Not a man in my opinion.but a child who killed his parents cuz he didn't want to work...Aggg disgusting.
All that effort into planning and NOTHING into actually bettering himself as a person? He clearly could’ve. But it’s cool. He still won’t have to pay bills. The state will pick up his room and board for the rest of his life.
Well said
I mean being in prison is actually pretty expensive and he murdered the people who would have put any money in his account so sucks to suck
Actually that really sucks that he still will not be responsible for paying for himself - nothing but a free ride for this kid his whole life.
Any kid who doesn’t graduate college after 5 years should be put on their own. It can be done in 4 years. Parents don’t need to pay for medical school. Most kids want to get a job and get out of the parents home and be on their own. So weird all the way around.
He’s such a narcissist
It's so hard to look at the picture of his mother, knowing her head ended up in that pot. I just can't imagine what the officer saw that lifted that lid.
I've been thinking about what if the officers had stopped to look in the pot when they first saw it, instead of leaving it and continuing to clear the house. Seeing the blood on the stairs and the clothes on the 2nd floor probably gave them enough warning to mentally prepare for the upstairs scene, but if they had just opened that pot in the beginning it would have been 0 to 100. (or maybe more like 0 to 10,000...)
i once worked at an insurance company in the disability and life insurance department. there were more disability claims for law enforcement officers than i expected, and a lot of them ended up being for PTSD, anxiety, depression, etc, often relating to something they saw on the job, like the remnants of very violent deaths. i don't think most people can really deal with seeing things like that, day in and day out. hope the officers here got whatever therapy or help they might've needed after seeing something like this
@@julesk3816 I feel like no one ever thinks about that part of the job. and I’m sure there’s officers who go their entire career without seeing anything super gruesome or something bad enough to truly damage them. But for the ones that does happen to… I just can’t imagine! I watched the film of that guy killing and dismembering the other guy (from don’t f*ck with cats on Netflix) and it literally messed with my head for a long time. I regret ever watching that!
@@lacilocicero3932 I know this is an old comment but I just discovered Stephanie recently so i just happened across your comment, but it’s so true that cops see so much more than most people realize. My husband has been a police officer for almost 20 years and we live in a really small town with very little violent crime and very very few murders, in his almost 20 years he’s worked just a few murders, one when we first started dating and a man beat his wife to death with a baseball bat and then jumped off of a bridge in front of my husband and his coworkers holding their 3yr old daughter, miraculously the 3yr old and the man survived but it was a case that my husband had nightmares about for months after and still occasionally has nightmares about. He’s also worked some really horrific car accidents that resulted in deaths, a few child abuse cases which bother him a lot, he actually buys toys and stuffed animals to keep in his cruiser to give to children when they have to work child abuse cases just to try to cheer the child up or distract them if they need a distraction from the situation their in. Last summer they worked an overdose case and it was a horrific site because a male and female couple had been in the middle of a sexual act and they both overdosed, they lived in a single wide mobile home with no air conditioning in the middle of 100 degree heat in the south, and they’d been dead a few days, it was a really disturbing site because of the act he was performing on her and then obviously when someone dies out bodies empty out, and with the heat and no air conditioning, it was more than most of the police and EMTs etc could handle. My husband has PTSD and anxiety and he has nightmares almost nightly and at least once a week he screams and thrashes in his sleep, sometimes springing from bed in a panic. He has nightmares that he gets shot, and nightmares about having to shoot someone, fortunately he and his coworkers have never had to shoot anyone and have only had to pull their gun on people just a handful of times in cases where someone pulls a gun on them or is holding a gun to their wives or children’s head, luckily that’s happened very, very infrequently in his almost 20 years on the job. Even in areas where there’s not a lot of violent crimes they still see some really disturbing things sometimes, and a lot of them don’t want to burden their families with the things they see, some are “too proud” to seek therapy or think they can handle it themselves, and sadly sometimes they take their own lives because they just can’t handle the things they’ve seen. It’s a difficult profession and sadly they get a lot of hate, and of course there’s bad eggs in the profession but thankfully in our small town they’re all actually really great men and women who love their job and love helping people and try to make a positive difference in people’s lives. I wish all police officers were as great as the men and women here in my small town. But thank you for recognizing that police officers often see some really traumatic things and that they’re human beings just like the rest of us! 💕
I know! I wonder what it looked like.
“ the kid didn’t have a pot to piss in but fruit of the loom was beneath him” LMAO 🤣
I forgot to breathe listening to how their bodies were found. Horrific..
Seriously. So awful.
I really couldn't bare to hear the poor dog 🥺
Same
Me too, if was so intense and sad
I think she should have put a warning in there 😬
literally no one:
stephanie: "GROWN ASS ADULT" lmao
👏👏👏
Grown ass lazy sick ass man
Girl this case makes me so upset. This guy is so bizarre. His poor parents didn't see this coming until it was actually happening. The was very interesting to observe Joel Jrs behavior.
He acted like he didn’t even care at all during the trial. I mean. He showed ZERO compassion for his parents or his siblings.
@@ERBS_Mommy2019 The weird thing with psychotic people, is that they are usually compassionate towards the pets. He didn't kill the dog, and he easily could have.
@@LuckyBadger im often not sure if they have any actual compassion or just do not view the animal as a threat physically or as a witness
I forever maintain that even the best parents can produce losers.
@@LuckyBadger Having a true psychopath as an ex (with him for 10 years and just thought he was a narcissist for the time I was with him) and having a mother that’s a psychologist, I tend to think that they don’t harm or target animals as much (I did have one cat pass away from very strange unexplained circumstances n he was the only one home at the time) because animals/pets can’t damage their egos, web of lies, house of cards, etc. I’m an empath and there are legit books out there on the toxicity of a relationship between empaths and narcissists/psychopaths. Psychopaths like to keep everyone separate because they pin each one against the others and it’s much easier to keep track of their lies. Like I never got to meet his friends really or even hear about them and this dude was living with me for years. He knew all of mine, as they dwindled away. His mother absolutely hated me and I know what kind of person I am and I had done nothing to deserve the hate, looking back I am sure he lied to his mom about me about who knows what to make sure she and I would never like each other. We are pawns in these ppl’s lives. He was the master charmer though, very good looking, very good at isolating me, I taught him how to dress well, and paid for all the clothes to boot. It would drive me crazy when we would be fighting and he could go into a store and charm/flirt with the cashier right in front of me and be in such a happy mood. That was how I started seeing how fake he could be, but to the outside world and just acquaintances, they would think the world of him. He never held a job for long, I never met anyone that had such a long list of jobs. He lasted 1.5 days at the only job he had in 2 years. He could be caught red handed doing something wrong and because of their nature, they literally make you question your own mind and never admit any guilt or wrongdoing. I haven’t talked to him since March but I have nightmares at least once a week with him in them. The similarities between my ex and this guy are insane when it comes to how hard they will work and do whatever to not work. He drained me financially, I lost my house, my cars, some of my pets, my career as an engineer. I live in my mom’s basement now. They wreck lives. Sorry for my long rant of my personal experience with a psychopath. I want to share my experience as much as possible to prevent others from letting them ruin your life. I think so poorly of myself now. I have no desire to date ever again. I hope things will get better, but they do damage to you that goes on far longer even if you have physically left them.
I should add that I think psychopaths work very hard to not do legitimate work because they absolutely can not stand to be bossed around, they have a superiority complex. They are above the rules.
My sister lacks empathy and has been leeching off of my mum for years. I am now TERRIFIED and will be hiding all weapons and crockpots any time she’s over
a lack of empathy doesn't make someone evil. i have "low empathy" because of various mental disorders, i'm not a bad person because of it. he did what he did because of who he is. you can't act like anyone with low empathy is automatically evil
Jeez, I wonder why she doesn't visit more often?
I'm sure she thinks you're just a peach 🙄
@@kaijuhunting every i know used to call me a psychopath cause i’m really good at hiding my emotions. my friends and i were playing some random game and one of the questions was “who’s the most likely to commit murder?” and everyone pointed at me with no hesitation. i thought it was funny cause i was drunk but someone said to my face that they wouldn’t be surprised if i killed someone and it really bothered me. i asked a bunch of people they all agreed, god forbid someone has a good poker face.
This case is so sad. Do you know how many people would love to have parents that were so loving and supporting as these two. They supported this man-child way past into his 30s. I don’t know how many parents would do that.
Not many i was out when i turned 18
@Cemetery Adventures and More Ghosts me too
I have amazingly generous parents. Theyd never make me leave home if I didnt want to...they've said many times I could live at home forever, eat their food and sit in my twin bed watching Hulu the rest of my life and to make that sentiment even sweeter and more thoughtful of ME they follow this statement up with expressing their only worry about that would be MY happiness... that I just wouldn't be as happy living at home with them as I would be living my own life with my own family, and even they would not foot my separate lifestyle past 18 yrs old such as these parents did. Such as tuition rent GAS?! Insurance car payments etc. So even I do not know why theyve done this. I also do not know why he didnt worship the ground they walked on and yet he murdered them...that is what I really wonder about. I consider myself a spoiled child but make no mistake I love my parents unconditionally. If they couldnt stand my presence in their home ever again and never wanted to speak to me I'd still love them and want the best for them and definitely go out of my way to provide for them if I was ever honored to be called upon to do so. That is how I feel so I cant imagine what and why went on in this man childs brain.
@@Janellabelle My ex is a psychopath n he and his mother had an very unhealthy relationship. He is now 40, but just a year or two ago and the past ten I was with him, he used her (and me) as personal piggy banks. Psychopaths are very entitled people, the rules don’t apply to me kinda ppl. They believe everyone should hand them everything and they go to great lengths to not work (they don’t do well with being bosses around by a boss as they see themselves as better than the boss). I never want to victim shame, not one second, but I do see the similarity in the two mothers in regards to footing their very adult sons lives. Ex’s mom was known to let him borrow her car for the day, while she had to take a bus to and from work or get a ride from a coworker. And my ex would have lied and said he needed it for a job interview he didn’t have. N this was not a one or two time thing, it could go on for months on end. The only times he actually gave me the $ we had agreed upon when he moved into the house that I have now foreclosed on (mainly due to him taking me down financially) is the one or two months out of over 40 that his mom gave him the $ to give to me. I heard over the years that I could afford him, meanwhile I was refinancing and taking out equity loans, my 401k, etc. He wrecked my life. But that is the difference between just being a spoiled kid and a psychopath, these people think everyone should just hand them what they want, and they will work very very hard to not have a legitimate job.
This guy is exactly what the death penalty was made for.
I’d usually agree but I think his lazy ass should be forced to deal with what he did and work for the prison for free for the rest of his miserable life
@@emmetthowell9265 I agree with you 💯
@@emmetthowell9265 this
@@emmetthowell9265 Yes that creep doesn’t deserve a swift death!!!
@Terri Barrett, could not agree more! The less time we have to feed and house him, the better! Reminds me of a bit from comedian Ron White, who is from Texas. He was talking about when Texas passed the law, fast-tracking death row appeals said: Not only do we have the death penalty, we've put in an express lane!! 😂😂👵🇺🇸
I went to high school with Joel Guy. He was always a little odd/strange/weird but no one ever expected him to do something like this.
wow that is so crazy😳 it’s always just so weird hearing on people’s firsthand experience with these psychopathic people
Poor you. That's so creepy.
Crazy! I went to school with a guy who burned his mom’s house down and killed all her pets.
During the live broadcast of this trial a lot of people kept sayin how odd this guy looks. I noticed straight off too. No way I would've had anything to do with him. I hope you also kept your distance during that time in school with him. Just creepy af.
It would be weird if you did tbf.
He literally smiled and smirked the WHOLE Trial!!
He really thought that he could physically do all that work even though he’s never worked a day in his life.
Thank you. Too much cable 📺.😳
I’ve always thought that there is so much cleaning up to do after a murder, that it’s not worth doing in the first place.
Seriously...
Poor little baby got a little boo boo and had to get a band aid.
Haha FACTS 😄 THAT f'n PART!
I could not imagine walking into a house, unsure of what you may find and to then find such a horrific scene. I’m an ER nurse, I can deal with gross stuff but this is a whole different level. God bless the men and women who do this for a living.
Agree!!! I've always wanted to be a detective and I dont have a weak stomach, but the things they have to see....I really dont think I could process it
“My Italian aunt, not by blood...” 😂 I’ve literally introduced a couple before as, “My Aunt Mary and Uncle John, no relation...”
😂
As an Italian I can easily say I have about a dozen aunties who are no relation to me what so ever lol but in my heart they are blood all the way. Deff an Italian thing. Lol
I’m Italian descent and I get this. My parents’ friends, people I grew up with my whole life, are known as aunt and uncle. We’re not related, but the feeling is still there.
There is no bigger compliment than a step child emulating to be JUST like their step parent!! That statement alone tells people how amazing that person is! I’m just wishing that there are more people who feel that way!
His lawyers really used the Elle Woods' "happy people don't shoot their husbands" defense huh
His lawyer didn't use a defense. He just cross examined some witnesses and brought up these questions. Otherwise, it was just his closing arguments. It wasn't a defense by an standard. More of a comeback on some witnesses. Joel Jr smiled throughout the whole trial while staring at crime scene photos. He didn't want a defense, obviously.
@@pretzelmaker3122 it was a joke from Legally Blonde...
@@pretzelmaker3122 r/woosh
Lol
The ol' legally blonde gambit. Classic!
The defense reminds me of Elle from Legally Blonde. “Happy people don’t just kill their husbands. They just don’t!”
Hahahah I thought that too
Came here to say the same thing but NO disrespect to Elle Woods! 🤣
Well when you leave behind a book outlining the murder called the "Book of Premeditation" it's hard to come up with a decent defense.
When you said “stockpot”. I was like “theres a head in that stockpot”.
Same. Maybe I watch too much true crime content :D
Yeah same.
Same. Head size pot :(
Sameeeeee
Me too!
His plan seemed so easy to him except one thing, his lazy ass had NO CLUE how much physical WORK it takes to CLEAN. I guarantee he never cleaned a day in his life. .... It’s also not the first time a person grossly underestimated what it takes to get rid of a body, let alone 2!
Ironically, if he’d just shot them, and staged a murder-suicide, he’d have had a bit of a chance of getting away with it. But no, he had to complicate everything.
That mf probably ran out of stamina lol
I watched this trial. He seemed amused and interested in hearing and seeing all the things he did. Also there was a moment when he was looking around and found the camera that was filming him and SMIRKED. What a sick tool of a human. His parents loved him, he was the baby. Took advantage of that and panicked when he couldn't bum off mom anymore. "It's all mine" what a juvenile thing to say. Yucky human just yucky.
It's the kind of human a normal person can't reason with or make see the error of their actions. It pleases him that people find him obnoxious.
I'm not sure what would make him crack.. if anything.. he is an evil hearted person nonetheless.
He must have been born without a soul
His roommate not loving him anymore would probably do it
Saved the Beanie Babies from fire but was still planning to burn the dog alive... Not to mention killing and dismembering his parents
Right... hearing him bark was so sad
Does the dog end up okay? Does anybody know? I haven't finished the video yet but 😭
@@jukie16 The dog was alive in the laundry room but I'm sure the dog suffered mentally.
I'm sure that in a case like this the cops would have made sure to find that pup a good loving home, maybe with one of the sisters? I've found that first responders tend to have very soft hearts for the animals and kids that they rescue - my firefighter Gramps always had a few stray cats and a rescue dog around the house, until the day he died!
What a POS
Am I a man who will probably never wear perfume in his life? Yes.
Did I still listen to the whole sponsorship anyway? HELL yes.
@Aqua Tofana Just not my style :P
They have cologne too
She is very pretty.
Eight and a half minutes for a sponsorship though... It's basically an infomercial at that point
Get it for a girl. Very thoughtful gift.
I love the cops declaring rooms cleared without opening closet doors or looking under beds. In a situation that bizarre, you've got to be thorough.
I thought exactly that. The perpetrator could be on scene yet hidden. And not being absolutely thorough and checking blind spots puts the lives of officers in peril. Anyone who would do this to his own parents would have zero hesitation to "clear" the residence of witnesses, law enforcement or civilians. If these safe to clear measures are not taught they are at the very least, a common sense component of clearing rooms to code 4. Not to say the police did anything wrong, they were simply placing themselves in situations of vulnerability
@@kellysnyder1405 considering they were a three man team, I think making sure every room in the house was generally cleared was the best way to handle it. After the first general cleared round, they could then check the house more thoroughly.
Yeah I thought that wasn't kosher either
That's how this were done for decades, and then Columbine happened and suddenly people realized that it was more important to move towards the threat and contain it then to meticulously search every freaking nook and cranny while people are bleeding out around you. Uvalde is a prime example of law enforcement being second guessed to the point of incompetence. Imagine being more afraid of being sued for actually trying to save lives than you are of people dying due to inaction.
Our system is so broken
This is why I’m a forensic scientist and not a cop; I’d immediately go to the dog at the scene
😂 yeah I’d go to the dog too
Saaaame. "Oh wow, this is horrific... Wait, is that a dog? Omg puppy what happened???🥺❤️" and then just focus on the poor fluffer pupper. 🤦♀️
When they said he was locked in there for days i was like "omg give him some water! 😖💔"
And didnt even have a reaction to the head in the pot ...
Y'all... It's honestly kind of sick you're basically saying you care more about a dog than the fact that two human beings were brutally murdered and the murder was somewhere on the run.. I know you think it's cute but I think it's actually quite despicable.
@@bendietrees I’m not saying that. I’m in this field precisely because I want to make sure these people get locked up. What I’m saying is that my survival instincts in this situation would cause me to locate the dog, letting my guard down for a potential shooter that may still be in the house. Not that I care more about the animal than the people
"All wrapped up in Banana Republic tighty whiteys" killed me off
What an amazing boss/co-worker in the beginning. She felt something was off so she acted on it.
Yep. She called the police TWICE and insisted they go inside that house-that something had to be wrong. She really cared.
He clearly didn’t have any idea how long his disposal plan could take, and he definitely had no idea how quickly his parents would be missed bc he didn’t have anyone in his life that he was in daily contact with like them