This cam delivers on the performance claims, but you will need to get your 900 water cooled twin tuned. Don't run this cam with the x-pipe, mufflers, high flow air filter and de-snorkel unless you also tune the bike on a dyno with a PCV or TuneECU. We did all the mods, and the AFR down low was in the high 10 range, and up top was close to 15. Way out of spec... It ran, but riding it hard with it that lean would do damage to the motor over time. If you install this cam, TUNE THE BIKE. We saw a 28% increase in power, the fueling and motor are now happy, and you can actually run the bike up to redline. It pulls hard right to the rev limiter, rather than having to short shift it at 5000rpm... Which means, you can gear the bike down for even more drive, without sacrificing top end speed. Completely new bike is how it feels, but if you are gonna do this cam, do it right and tune the bike after the install. You will thank me.
SquireSCA this is the comment I’ve been looking for! I have a 2018 Bonnie T100 and I’m wanting to give it as much HP and torque as possible. It’s stock with only 800 miles on it but I plan on 1:dropping front sprocket down one tooth, 2:de-CATing with X-pipe, 3:changing stock exhaust to free flow predator pros from BC, 4:de-snorkeling the air box and placing in a high flow filter, 5:adding a fuel booster plug, 6:adding in the de-restrict cam shaft and then finally getting a Dino done on the bike... is there ANYTHING else you would recommend to improve performance?? Thanks so much!
I'm about halfway done with fitting the new cam, just got the alternator cover off. That was tough! A rubber mallet helped me loosen the left and bottom, the top right corner was very difficult, but I found it helpful to use some plastic pry tools (used for interior trim parts, won't damage the gasket surface) to get leverage between the cover and the block to wiggle it loose. Not too much pressure. I also expect the reassembly of the ignition module to be finicky.
Excellent, very informative even if a camshaft change is not your goal, it's good to see how the tank comes off to get at the crazily placed coolant filler and the method for checking/adjusting valve clearances - Many thanks.
George, just had the camshaft fitted to my ST....after only getting back on bikes after 25yrs just 2 yrs ago, I didn’t think i’d notice a big difference but wow it feels like a brand new machine!...does everything it says on the tin, more responsive, smoother running,powerfull and great through the gears! expect some more orders from our ST riders this side of the pond👍...keep up the steller work my man👌JF Dublin🇨🇮
Hi! Can you tell us how is the engine and the bike 2 years after the mod? I’m considering to buy one but I wonder to k ow if the quality of the cam is the same as the original. Thks !
@@edouardnicollas2117 It’s still perfect, absolutely best mod i did on this bike by far! next best would be the decat xpipe which i also got from TEC…both mods are essential for the first gen Street Twins
@@jeffreygorodokin4112 I’m not sure if they came with the camshaft from Tec. Didn’t fit it myself, gave it to a Triumph guy and he consulted the instruction video. Bike has moved on since then, but highly recommend the upgrade.
George you are a legend in triumph circles! Excellent video, thanks 👍 Please do a how-to for the T120! I know it's a ball-ache doing a similar video but 1200 owners would be very grateful!
Hi Steve The t120 cam change is almost identical if fitting our 303 performance cam as we don't use an exhaust valve lifter. I mention the small differences for fitting to a 1200 motor in this video. Dyno sheets for the T120 on our web shop
Excellent informative video, thank you. Can you tell me the thickness of the camshaft locking plate tool please? The Haynes manual gives other dimensions but doesn't say how thick the plate needs to be!
Haynes manuals give me the impression of being short-changed copy/paste jobs from vehicle to vehicle. The little exceptions you found really catch it. They're good for giving another perspective, but when it comes to prescribed stuff (torque, replacement parts, etc), I'll stick to the manufacturer's service manual. Don't worry about the sound, it's just fine. I hear worse on videos from guys with so-called professional setups. Thanks for a great explanation!
George, I have taken my Thruxton R to the Bonneville Salt Flats for land speed racing a couple of times. Going back again in August 2019, what would be your recommendation for the best exhaust, cam, air filter, etc for high speed runs covering 3 plus miles?
Glad I found this after your awesome "derestricting" vid. I have a 2018 Scrambler bought just last month and I was wondering why its seems to "choke" at around 70-80mph. I just created an account on your website.
All that work and the white T shirt is still white! How did you pull that off mate? Excellent video. I plan on getting a street scrambler when I can afford it, and will definitely be fitting one of your cams.
I was amazed by this myself. Im covered in oil and grease as soon as I even think about attempting a project. Completing one with a clean white shirt is incredible!
Great video ,i was totally confused how a single camshaft operate 8 valves for two cylinders ,,,,its the rockers and the configuration of came drive chain between the cylinders that make its possible ,amazing ,,,,,im planning to buy speedmaster in near future,,,,,,.
Could the bike be put in 6th gear and the rear tire be used to spin the motor over instead of taking that cover off? Really great share! “Cheers from DALLAS TX!”
The video is a guide only and I would suggest using it along side the workshop manual from Triumph or Haynes. parts numbers alternator cover gasket - T1268765 CAM screws T40 head - T3053005 Cam tensioner O rings - T3600199 + T3601276 Tightening torques Cam sprocket screws 22 NM camshaft bearing carriers 10Nm Head top cover 14Nm Alternator cover bolts 10Nm Cam tensioner 16NM You can safely run the bike with the stock ECU . I would check you have the latest software update from Triumph installed as the latest dealer update tune is a lot better than the factory gates tune. We have done testing with the triumph updated map and the Vance and Hines Triumph map and very little difference. For max power you can use a Power commander but we found that is was not really worth the money as the throttle body / air box was at almost max flow already. The only advantage was the timing could be advanced and rev limit raised ( both risky if you are not sure what you are doing) we also found fuel economy not as good with power commander probably due to the O2 sensors being bypassed. You can get a wide band O2 sensor add on kit for the PC5 but again this is expensive. As with all power commander and similar systems it is only as good as the tuner who has set it up on the bike and can be dangerous in the wrong hands.
Hi, do you know if this camshaft/power issue has been fixed with the new models or should we still upgrade the camshaft on new bikes(2019)? It seems like the power upgrade is close to what you get with your camshaft.
Thanks for the step by step and tool recommendations. I take it this is for a boost in power? I am considering a triumph and like what you have made for the Speed Twin
George....you ever heard of people getting a tapping noise from the rocker arms they are free to slide sideways. On checking my valve gaps I notice this....when pushed back and to....as the contact the head I hear the same tapping sound I get on cold start....goes after around 2mins....
A very helpful & informative video, George. As mentioned by previous comments the sound drops out a bit in places, the worst time when you demonstrate resetting the cam chain tensioner. I can recommend to anyone that's a bit unsure of this procedure they watch a video by Muddysump - Tiger 800 Cam Chain Tensioner Reset. The Tiger 800 tensioner differs slightly in appearance to the Twins but is basically the same design & procedure to reset. I would like to know, could the original two camshaft sprocket bolts be loosened off before removing the original cam from the engine ? to avoid possible damage from clamping in a vice.
A would change the cam chain and tensioner as well if the bike had alot of miles on it. I want a better cam for my 2007 carby model 865. Are there any avaliable?. What about high comp pistons for stock bore?.
Brilliant, great upgrade for this bike, your fantastic research, has reopened my enthusiasm to purchase this bike. You mentioned that after this upgrade the breaks would need attention, can you tell me when you plan on looking at this. best regards
Thanks for the video. Any chance you could post the part numbers for the cam bolts, o-rings and other parts/tools we need for the job in the video description? Thanks again for all the hard work, really looking forward to fitting this cam.
The video is a guide only and I would suggest using it along side the workshop manual from Triumph or Haynes. parts numbers alternator cover gasket - T1268765 CAM screws T40 head - T3053005 Cam tensioner O rings - T3600199 + T3601276 Tightening torques Cam sprocket screws 22 NM camshaft bearing carriers 10Nm Head top cover 14Nm Alternator cover bolts 10Nm Cam tensioner 16NM You can safely run the bike with the stock ECU . I would check you have the latest software update from Triumph installed as the latest dealer update tune is a lot better than the factory gates tune. We have done testing with the triumph updated map and the Vance and Hines Triumph map and very little difference. For max power you can use a Power commander but we found that is was not really worth the money as the throttle body was at almost max flow already. The only advantage was timing could be advanced and rev limit raised ( both risky if you are not sure what you are doing) we also fuel economy not as good with power commander probably due to the O2 sensors being bypassed.
What I have found is there is one specific Triumph tune for almost every market; EU, Thailand, Australia, U.S. etc. even in some cases different spec accessories as in muffler specs, Evap canisters etc. I think while it may be safe to run the cam without a PCV or fueling device your going to have a variety of results. there can't be one updated factory tune for all markets.re- mapping and advancing the timing would be necessary to achieve the full benefits of installing a cam, a pcV would be a good investment, but in addition you need a good dyno tuner and dyno time to be safe and achieve proper results, there is no free lunch, unless you want to leave power on the table. And to be safe, I would at least dyno the bike to make sure I was not lean. altitude, temp and humidity of your riding environment all play a part, unless your only riding in the UK.
DEeMON Hi,If you want to be sure that the bike is not running too lean you can use a booster plug as a back up and this will run about 6% more fuel on open loop. We are going to produce pcv maps for the 900 and 1200 motorcycles, these will be based on the stock USA and EU tunes .In testing with a cam only fitted both types run very well and safe with the stock update tunes, no big gain in the pcv on 900 even with extra mods, but on 1200 you can see more power due to the larger throttle bodies when using a pcv with more ignition advance and raising the rev limiter
yes, I have a Booster plug presently with a de-cat, my own design custom short pipes de-snorkeled airbox. Also running a 44 tooth rear sprocket, turning 4 second 0-60 times already. how much faster with a cam, I suspect not much, due to the single throttle body nearly maxed out already, smallish valves and porting compared the the 1200cc bikes. You have to realize bikes sold outside the EU and the U.S. are often sold by non Triumph dealers, and there is no available map upgrade., We are stuck with Booster Plug or PCV for any additional fueling, or timing maps. but The PCV requires advanced skills and a dyno to properly tune the bike, as well as re calibrate the throttle position sensor. In any event I have a late model Street Twin, so no cam yet from your offerings. It would be nice to know what maps we may or may not have based on VIN, and whether they are available for all the 5 tunes worldwide. mine came with tune 4, which is Thailand tune. exhaust was choked down to 78 DB per frame sticker. But not now! :)
WOW! I watched the whole thing and I have to say its not as difficult as I thought it would be, the awesome thing is the location of the camshaft itself, its pretty much at the top within reach so you don't have to take the engine apart, great video! I'm happy with 55 ponies for the time being but I can forsee that in a few years I'll be attempting this myself for that extra 10 (maybe more with some ECU tuning? who knows hehe), great stuff! thumbs up!
@@mcplutt With a good map by TuneEcu ,air filter DNA or K&N and Camshaft could be 15cv with d-cat too... I make maps for triumph twins and works really good
Hi Sir, if I'm only checking the valve clearance, I can only turn the crank by rotating the rear wheel in high gear right? really don't want to open the engine side cover.
Very good walkthrough. I did notice that you had a steering stabilizer installed. Can you share information on it and if it fits the Thruxton RS. Thanks for a great tutorial.
They don't have one for the Thruxton RS and no that one only fits the Street Twin/Cup. They have a steering damper for the T100/T120 but those would not fit on a Thruxton either, though I don't think a Thruxton even needs one, as far as I know the steering is very well built, you can message TEC directly, they usually respond pretty quickly.
George just checking my valve gaps on my water cooled bonie T100....using a haynes workshop manual....it agrees with the inlet tolerances you quote in the vid 0.05 to 0.13mm but my book for exhaust quotes 0.12 to 0.22mm....in the vid you quote for exhaust 0.08 to 0.18mm. Can you confirm the correct exhaust gap please.
Great video, thank you for that. Since I am planning to change the CAM, I was very focus, so I think I heard TEC Bike FART 25:20 :D No hate, just amuse myself how focus I was.
Also I've just take the maden ride with the cam fitted it feels more powerful. But I've noticed the revs very slowly now. Do you know why this is and how it might go away? Thank you
it doesn't look like a difficult job, but it would be expensive if I got it wrong. How much would it be in labour if I got you guys to replace the cam?
Hi....just wondering watching this video...are the cams on the 900 and 1200 a bit on the weak side to be covering a video showing how to replace them? Its ok...further into the vid You explained why you change the cams and that they are good for 100k miles. Thank you for a very informative video.
There are a bunch of moments when the microphone is getting covered up/muffled. Perhaps be conscious of this in other videos. But it's good video nonetheless, I have been waiting to watch this. Thanks.
Am I correct in assuming, based on your emphasis on water-cooled, that the cams are different on the 2017 air-cooled scramblers and these camshafts cannot be used in those engines?
If you could build a performance camshaft and hi-compression pistons for the Kawasaki VN1600 range you'd be on a winner!!! You could easily take it from 70bhp to 85/90bhp and sell them by the bucket load all around the world.
Hi We have developed a different cam for the 1200R, and the simple answer is more power and torque right across the range even on an otherwise stock bike, we will publish dyno figures as soon as the production cams are ready.
Thankyou Sir, dont mind that sound, just 1 Question, pls show some graf off before, and after shifting the camshaft, for the T120 - where as my interest is - you shure got me interested - easy now, aint gone roadracing downtown (62 years old) just wants that beautiful bike "running free" - - stock version sounds/feels kindof "blockèd - - - - Best Regards from Denmark
sorry about the sound, but I am a bike mechanic not a TV presenter !
Hey man, no worries. Just keep droppin science on us and we'll figure out the audio later!
Of course I would blame the sound engineer ;)
TEC Bike Parts how much r they 2fit
How do I get a cam for my thruxton 1200r in the usa?
This is great that you’ve shown this ,I don’t know anyone going this far to show this
love this guy ... we need more of them ... the satisfaction of getting the job done , all by yourself ... it' s a great feeling ...
This cam delivers on the performance claims, but you will need to get your 900 water cooled twin tuned. Don't run this cam with the x-pipe, mufflers, high flow air filter and de-snorkel unless you also tune the bike on a dyno with a PCV or TuneECU. We did all the mods, and the AFR down low was in the high 10 range, and up top was close to 15. Way out of spec... It ran, but riding it hard with it that lean would do damage to the motor over time. If you install this cam, TUNE THE BIKE. We saw a 28% increase in power, the fueling and motor are now happy, and you can actually run the bike up to redline. It pulls hard right to the rev limiter, rather than having to short shift it at 5000rpm... Which means, you can gear the bike down for even more drive, without sacrificing top end speed. Completely new bike is how it feels, but if you are gonna do this cam, do it right and tune the bike after the install. You will thank me.
SquireSCA this is the comment I’ve been looking for! I have a 2018 Bonnie T100 and I’m wanting to give it as much HP and torque as possible. It’s stock with only 800 miles on it but I plan on 1:dropping front sprocket down one tooth, 2:de-CATing with X-pipe, 3:changing stock exhaust to free flow predator pros from BC, 4:de-snorkeling the air box and placing in a high flow filter, 5:adding a fuel booster plug, 6:adding in the de-restrict cam shaft and then finally getting a Dino done on the bike... is there ANYTHING else you would recommend to improve performance?? Thanks so much!
Will the Booster Plug compensate for some of the lean situation?
Thank you George, your diligence in figuring out this motor and resulting product has put the WC 900s back on my radar.
Could not have had a more complete, clear explanation than this!
Excellent video and you’re an awesome motorcycle mechanic,
It’s a pleasure to watch you work.
I'm about halfway done with fitting the new cam, just got the alternator cover off. That was tough! A rubber mallet helped me loosen the left and bottom, the top right corner was very difficult, but I found it helpful to use some plastic pry tools (used for interior trim parts, won't damage the gasket surface) to get leverage between the cover and the block to wiggle it loose. Not too much pressure. I also expect the reassembly of the ignition module to be finicky.
I am going to buy a Bonnie t100 and do this upgrade, thank you very much for the work you've done good sir.
Great job, very nicely presented and filmed, thanks 🙏
That's awesome it's great yous guys are there to let us know these things. Could something like that be done with my thruxton 900
Excellent, very informative even if a camshaft change is not your goal, it's good to see how the tank comes off to get at the crazily placed coolant filler and the method for checking/adjusting valve clearances - Many thanks.
Great stuff - I really think you undersell yourselves!
Super interesting. Doesn't look half as difficult as my imagination made that type of swap out to be. Thanks.
George, just had the camshaft fitted to my ST....after only getting back on bikes after 25yrs just 2 yrs ago, I didn’t think i’d notice a big difference but wow it feels like a brand new machine!...does everything it says on the tin, more responsive, smoother running,powerfull and great through the gears! expect some more orders from our ST riders this side of the pond👍...keep up the steller work my man👌JF Dublin🇨🇮
Hi!
Can you tell us how is the engine and the bike 2 years after the mod? I’m considering to buy one but I wonder to k ow if the quality of the cam is the same as the original.
Thks !
@@edouardnicollas2117 It’s still perfect, absolutely best mod i did on this bike by far! next best would be the decat xpipe which i also got from TEC…both mods are essential for the first gen Street Twins
@@johnfitzsimons3198 Can you tell me where/which parts you got for the replacement O rings on the chain tensioner that he says you must replace?
@@jeffreygorodokin4112 I’m not sure if they came with the camshaft from Tec. Didn’t fit it myself, gave it to a Triumph guy and he consulted the instruction video. Bike has moved on since then, but highly recommend the upgrade.
To purchase see- shop.tecbikeparts.com/products/cam-101
George you are a legend in triumph circles! Excellent video, thanks 👍 Please do a how-to for the T120! I know it's a ball-ache doing a similar video but 1200 owners would be very grateful!
Hi Steve
The t120 cam change is almost identical if fitting our 303 performance cam as we don't use an exhaust valve lifter.
I mention the small differences for fitting to a 1200 motor in this video. Dyno sheets for the T120 on our web shop
I would love to see a review of the Bonnie 900 with the cam installed!
They produced one on 2017, when the prototype cam for the 900 was being tested.
Hi , very informative video , and will be watched by many on a Friday night and up early to get going over the weekend .Thank you for sharing .
Excellent informative video, thank you. Can you tell me the thickness of the camshaft locking plate tool please? The Haynes manual gives other dimensions but doesn't say how thick the plate needs to be!
Haynes manuals give me the impression of being short-changed copy/paste jobs from vehicle to vehicle. The little exceptions you found really catch it. They're good for giving another perspective, but when it comes to prescribed stuff (torque, replacement parts, etc), I'll stick to the manufacturer's service manual.
Don't worry about the sound, it's just fine. I hear worse on videos from guys with so-called professional setups. Thanks for a great explanation!
George, I have taken my Thruxton R to the Bonneville Salt Flats for land speed racing a couple of times. Going back again in August 2019, what would be your recommendation for the best exhaust, cam, air filter, etc for high speed runs covering 3 plus miles?
Three months crickets.
Great how to George, very informative 👍🏻
Camera guy is fired. Haha
Is the cam still available? I can’t find it on the U.S. website.
Glad I found this after your awesome "derestricting" vid. I have a 2018 Scrambler bought just last month and I was wondering why its seems to "choke" at around 70-80mph. I just created an account on your website.
All that work and the white T shirt is still white! How did you pull that off mate?
Excellent video. I plan on getting a street scrambler when I can afford it, and will definitely be fitting one of your cams.
I was amazed by this myself. Im covered in oil and grease as soon as I even think about attempting a project. Completing one with a clean white shirt is incredible!
I always have a big bag of kitty litter handy, because there's going to be a screwup when I do any work like this. :)
This is great. Thanks for sharing this with us. Cheers.
Great video ,i was totally confused how a single camshaft operate 8 valves for two cylinders ,,,,its the rockers and the configuration of came drive chain between the cylinders that make its possible ,amazing ,,,,,im planning to buy speedmaster in near future,,,,,,.
Could the bike be put in 6th gear and the rear tire be used to spin the motor over instead of taking that cover off?
Really great share!
“Cheers from DALLAS TX!”
The video is a guide only and I would suggest using it along side the workshop manual from Triumph or Haynes.
parts numbers
alternator cover gasket - T1268765
CAM screws T40 head - T3053005
Cam tensioner O rings - T3600199 + T3601276
Tightening torques
Cam sprocket screws 22 NM
camshaft bearing carriers 10Nm
Head top cover 14Nm
Alternator cover bolts 10Nm
Cam tensioner 16NM
You can safely run the bike with the stock ECU . I would check you have the latest software update from Triumph installed as the latest dealer update tune is a lot better than the factory gates tune.
We have done testing with the triumph updated map and the Vance and Hines Triumph map and very little difference.
For max power you can use a Power commander but we found that is was not really worth the money as the throttle body / air box was at almost max flow already. The only advantage was the timing could be advanced and rev limit raised ( both risky if you are not sure what you are doing) we also found fuel economy not as good with power commander probably due to the O2 sensors being bypassed.
You can get a wide band O2 sensor add on kit for the PC5 but again this is expensive.
As with all power commander and similar systems it is only as good as the tuner who has set it up on the bike and can be dangerous in the wrong hands.
how can i buy this camshaft ... It's out of stock !
Two thumbs up! very informative video :) Keep up the good work
Top notch video and very informative, but beyond my skill level I think, 👍
Wondering where i could get the camshaft done on my next visit to the UK? is there a general consensus on a good shop to contact?
Hi, do you know if this camshaft/power issue has been fixed with the new models or should we still upgrade the camshaft on new bikes(2019)? It seems like the power upgrade is close to what you get with your camshaft.
Thanks for the step by step and tool recommendations. I take it this is for a boost in power? I am considering a triumph and like what you have made for the Speed Twin
It will give a power boost, but the main purpose of the cam is to give a better power and torque curve as the stock curve is awful , see graphs
Can we follow the sama process for a royal enfield gt 650
Awesome garage with bird sounds
Thanks for the great tutorial 😊
I'm definitely saving these videos for the near future when I buy my Street Twin. I'll be looking you up as well to buy one of of those cams.
I’ve done work on my T120 before, but I think I might look into having my triumph dealership handle this one.
Im most impressed with how you did all that work and still kept the Tshirt white. Be honest, did you change it multiple times ?
This is very cool. What I'd like to hear is warm idle. Is it still a "smooth" idle, or does the cam introduce some lovely lope?
George....you ever heard of people getting a tapping noise from the rocker arms they are free to slide sideways.
On checking my valve gaps I notice this....when pushed back and to....as the contact the head I hear the same tapping sound I get on cold start....goes after around 2mins....
A very helpful & informative video, George. As mentioned by previous comments the sound drops out a bit in places, the worst time when you demonstrate resetting the cam chain tensioner. I can recommend to anyone that's a bit unsure of this procedure they watch a video by Muddysump - Tiger 800 Cam Chain Tensioner Reset. The Tiger 800 tensioner differs slightly in appearance to the Twins but is basically the same design & procedure to reset. I would like to know, could the original two camshaft sprocket bolts be loosened off before removing the original cam from the engine ? to avoid possible damage from clamping in a vice.
such a good video, i actually feel like i could do this
A would change the cam chain and tensioner as well if the bike had alot of miles on it. I want a better cam for my 2007 carby model 865. Are there any avaliable?. What about high comp pistons for stock bore?.
Have to say - you make removing the alternator cover easy! I’m so mad right now.
how far in does that locking tool seat into the crank? I am wondering if it is possible to have the holes aligned but install the cam 180 out?
Brilliant, great upgrade for this bike, your fantastic research, has reopened my enthusiasm to purchase this bike. You mentioned that after this upgrade the breaks would need attention, can you tell me when you plan on looking at this. best regards
TOTALLY spot-on tutorial mafren. shame about the sound, but hey ho it happens.
Brilliant tutorial. Please keep it up.
That was great video, very helpful thanks very much!!
Thanks for the video. Any chance you could post the part numbers for the cam bolts, o-rings and other parts/tools we need for the job in the video description? Thanks again for all the hard work, really looking forward to fitting this cam.
The video is a guide only and I would suggest using it along side the workshop manual from Triumph or Haynes.
parts numbers
alternator cover gasket - T1268765
CAM screws T40 head - T3053005
Cam tensioner O rings - T3600199 + T3601276
Tightening torques
Cam sprocket screws 22 NM
camshaft bearing carriers 10Nm
Head top cover 14Nm
Alternator cover bolts 10Nm
Cam tensioner 16NM
You can safely run the bike with the stock ECU . I would check you have the latest software update from Triumph installed as the latest dealer update tune is a lot better than the factory gates tune.
We have done testing with the triumph updated map and the Vance and Hines Triumph map and very little difference.
For max power you can use a Power commander but we found that is was not really worth the money as the throttle body was at almost max flow already. The only advantage was timing could be advanced and rev limit raised ( both risky if you are not sure what you are doing) we also fuel economy not as good with power commander probably due to the O2 sensors being bypassed.
Amazing!! Thank you!
What I have found is there is one specific Triumph tune for almost every market; EU, Thailand, Australia, U.S. etc. even in some cases different spec accessories as in muffler specs, Evap canisters etc. I think while it may be safe to run the cam without a PCV or fueling device your going to have a variety of results. there can't be one updated factory tune for all markets.re- mapping and advancing the timing would be necessary to achieve the full benefits of installing a cam, a pcV would be a good investment, but in addition you need a good dyno tuner and dyno time to be safe and achieve proper results, there is no free lunch, unless you want to leave power on the table. And to be safe, I would at least dyno the bike to make sure I was not lean. altitude, temp and humidity of your riding environment all play a part, unless your only riding in the UK.
DEeMON Hi,If you want to be sure that the bike is not running too lean you can use a booster plug as a back up and this will run about 6% more fuel on open loop. We are going to produce pcv maps for the 900 and 1200 motorcycles, these will be based on the stock USA and EU tunes .In testing with a cam only fitted both types run very well and safe with the stock update tunes, no big gain in the pcv on 900 even with extra mods, but on 1200 you can see more power due to the larger throttle bodies when using a pcv with more ignition advance and raising the rev limiter
yes, I have a Booster plug presently with a de-cat, my own design custom short pipes de-snorkeled airbox. Also running a 44 tooth rear sprocket, turning 4 second 0-60 times already. how much faster with a cam, I suspect not much, due to the single throttle body nearly maxed out already, smallish valves and porting compared the the 1200cc bikes. You have to realize bikes sold outside the EU and the U.S. are often sold by non Triumph dealers, and there is no available map upgrade., We are stuck with Booster Plug or PCV for any additional fueling, or timing maps. but The PCV requires advanced skills and a dyno to properly tune the bike, as well as re calibrate the throttle position sensor. In any event I have a late model Street Twin, so no cam yet from your offerings.
It would be nice to know what maps we may or may not have based on VIN, and whether they are available for all the 5 tunes worldwide. mine came with tune 4, which is Thailand tune. exhaust was choked down to 78 DB per frame sticker. But not now! :)
Fantastic video George. Thank you
The 2019 street twin has 10hp more then the previous model, how much power does the cam give on the new 2019 model?
Zero
@@daniellekoran7906 Is it the same cam? They measured 70 hp at the wheel with x-pipe and a tune.
hi, just wandering, is that camshaft suitable for the 2023 scrambler....
WOW! I watched the whole thing and I have to say its not as difficult as I thought it would be, the awesome thing is the location of the camshaft itself, its pretty much at the top within reach so you don't have to take the engine apart, great video! I'm happy with 55 ponies for the time being but I can forsee that in a few years I'll be attempting this myself for that extra 10 (maybe more with some ECU tuning? who knows hehe), great stuff! thumbs up!
You need the power :-) I do too.
@@mcplutt With a good map by TuneEcu ,air filter DNA or K&N and Camshaft could be 15cv with d-cat too... I make maps for triumph twins and works really good
Hi Sir, if I'm only checking the valve clearance, I can only turn the crank by rotating the rear wheel in high gear right? really don't want to open the engine side cover.
Awesome! Finally!!! When will this cam be available on the website? Great work guys! 👍🏼
we are releasing cams in batches now to people on our email mailing list
You are amazing where did you learn all of this. Do you work for Tec?
Can you link the parts needed for this mod at the video description?
Is this process the same for the air cooled T100 Bonneville using web cam racing upgrade?
Brilliant informative video, this man knows his stuff!!.......keep up the good work
Great video ..sounds a bit ropey but very informative..great work
Hi
I was using the mic to close to my neck, something to watch for next time
Is this the same process for thruxton r?do i need to replace the shims too or i can use the stock one?thanks!
I really enjoyed watching. Thanks mate
Hey lads - did you do that video on how to tune ECU etc? Mentioned it on first cam video 😎
Very good walkthrough. I did notice that you had a steering stabilizer installed. Can you share information on it and if it fits the Thruxton RS. Thanks for a great tutorial.
They don't have one for the Thruxton RS and no that one only fits the Street Twin/Cup. They have a steering damper for the T100/T120 but those would not fit on a Thruxton either, though I don't think a Thruxton even needs one, as far as I know the steering is very well built, you can message TEC directly, they usually respond pretty quickly.
Beautiful job!
dude your great, thank you very much,
@MOTOBOB have you seen this?
Excellent video, many thanks, do you guys fit the cams for us less experienced type ?
George just checking my valve gaps on my water cooled bonie T100....using a haynes workshop manual....it agrees with the inlet tolerances you quote in the vid 0.05 to 0.13mm but my book for exhaust quotes 0.12 to 0.22mm....in the vid you quote for exhaust 0.08 to 0.18mm.
Can you confirm the correct exhaust gap please.
Also, eliminating the airbox, did you have to remap the ecu? If so, what did you use? Thanks. Next month, I’ll be swapping my storm with a 2017 T100.
Hooray you're back! I was wondering what had happened?? Anyway I'm glad to see your latest video.
sorry been really busy
No need to apologise. I was just worried you might have been ill or summat. Anyway glad you're back.
Hi there, thinking of buying this bike and getting this done to it. Can your company install these camshafts for a customer if we pay you?
Hi
yes we can do cam installs ,just contact us well in advance as workshop is really busy
@@georgemilburn6213 thanks George, will contact once I purchase. Hats off to you and all at TEC
Is there a need to "run in" the new camshaft and redo the valve clearance after 500miles or so. ??
Great video, thank you for that. Since I am planning to change the CAM, I was very focus, so I think I heard TEC Bike FART 25:20 :D No hate, just amuse myself how focus I was.
Hi! Please onece again, What is the valve clearance?
Also I've just take the maden ride with the cam fitted it feels more powerful. But I've noticed the revs very slowly now. Do you know why this is and how it might go away?
Thank you
it doesn't look like a difficult job, but it would be expensive if I got it wrong. How much would it be in labour if I got you guys to replace the cam?
George your video makes me think I might be able to handle the job. Will the 1200 cam shaft fit the 2018 speedmaster ?
Great video, lots of info there thanks
Is this the same or very similar process as doing a cam change on a efi 865cc air-cooled engine?
Hi....just wondering watching this video...are the cams on the 900 and 1200 a bit on the weak side to be covering a video showing how to replace them?
Its ok...further into the vid You explained why you change the cams and that they are good for 100k miles.
Thank you for a very informative video.
.....what happens after 100k???
There are a bunch of moments when the microphone is getting covered up/muffled. Perhaps be conscious of this in other videos. But it's good video nonetheless, I have been waiting to watch this. Thanks.
Did you change the handlebars on that street twin?
great video. thanks
Will you do a video for the 1200 model??
I have recently installed one in my t120 and now the revs seem to drop of much more slowly when closing the throttle. Is this normal? Thanks.
Hi did you find out why this was happening? And did you find a fix
Hi John, been a year, can you update on your issue with the rev drop off? Thanks
Does a new T100 need valve shim change at 20,000 kilometres (at an extra cost of $370.00 + $400.00 for the service)?
Am I correct in assuming, based on your emphasis on water-cooled, that the cams are different on the 2017 air-cooled scramblers and these camshafts cannot be used in those engines?
Ed Weeks
Yes Triumph changed the head design slightly and the cam is different
If you could build a performance camshaft and hi-compression pistons for the Kawasaki VN1600 range you'd be on a winner!!! You could easily take it from 70bhp to 85/90bhp and sell them by the bucket load all around the world.
Dyno on t120 before and after with or without decat can't be found anywhere. Could you please let us know! Thanks
Can you fit a cam on the 2018 and after street twin?
nice job mate, what are the benefits of this on the 1200R?
Hi
We have developed a different cam for the 1200R, and the simple answer is more power and torque right across the range even on an otherwise stock bike, we will publish dyno figures as soon as the production cams are ready.
is a dyno tune & new Map required?
not required , designed to work with stock ECU
What about an R with a cat delete, slip ons, and gutted air box?
Bloody great how to video. Shame about the audio in a few places but other than that this was a near perfect instruction video
great vid.. maybe a little beyond my confidence hoever.. do you guys fit these at all?
Sorry as we are so busy at this time of year we cannot offer a fitting service , but any good workshop will be able to fit the cam for you.
Thankyou Sir, dont mind that sound, just 1 Question, pls show some graf off before, and after shifting the camshaft, for the T120 - where as my interest is - you shure got me interested - easy now, aint gone roadracing downtown (62 years old) just wants that beautiful bike "running free" - - stock version sounds/feels kindof "blockèd - - - - Best Regards from Denmark
we are making cams now and will show dyno run graphs of new cams when available
@@TECBikeParts looking for this t120 graph. Can't be found anywhere. Any update?