You're a master as always. Been thinking of a 562XP for limbing as my old 064 stihl is getting a little heavy for me slinging around for too long. God bless and Take care, be safe and get old and retired like me.
@@stevencroon4308 Steve hi. Missed your note here, sorry. Think I'd go after a 400. Going be a pretty penny once you ante up for the wrap kit. Way more power. Lighter as well. Retirement. Yah, I died that day. Thanks for watching.
Hello. I have not been filing by hand for awhile now. This was a ground chain. Seemed to do alright. It is all about the angles in relation to the wood type and density as not all trees are the same. You have to experiment in on the trees in your "neck of the woods" with various angle configurations to see what works. Best of luck to you. Thanks for watching.
have a square grinder what else can you teach us? I live in North East. love chisel chain .my is razor sharp ll. I don't always get it to cut go,but when it does ? lol look out.it cuts hard maple, like pine .thanks for video. Tom
+Thomas Morse I like the Simington 451 B. Infinitely adjustable. Light speed changes. Easily transportable. Closest grind I can get to my Neilson. The stone,,, a good stone is imperative. It can not wobble.
Love the 562 Vids I have a 562 xpg aswell i run a 24" Oregon bar with full chisel Oregon chain. What do you do to the 562 to get it to rip like that ? Is it just porting or mostly lap top programming ? Thanks Ontario Canada
My 562 don't run like that but I was very impressed with the 5 series saws I've used. Was sticking to 372 but I bought a 562xp and I ran 550xp. Both stock and cut better then expected actually regret not getting a 550xp for what it is it will cut.
The 500 series do cut faster and they also die faster. The new saws don't handle the heat very well especially limbing or felling harder woods, they tend to go to crap after 3-4 years.
Thanks for the feed back. That is one thing about the 3 series saws. My 3120 had a production date 96 and its been getting no love on the mill and cutting stumps .it just died a few weeks ago. But really the gas now kills anything in under 5 years from what I hear is it far comparison with the new gas.
The gas does play a part, but the older saws weren't as high revving as the new ones which means they didn't have as many problems with heat so even poor quality gas wouldn't be as bad as it would be on a new saw.
What is this issue I'm hearing about with the 5s not dealing with cold. Are was it all auto tune so even the new 3s...There is a switch or pin that needs to be engaged for cold weather. The hot part is worrisome as I'm working in the south east right now. I mostly run a 540xp and after a year of abuse it is not doing great.. Haha thought they had some smart guy change everything from angle of cylinder to the fins on the jug for this cooler running saw that would also save the ozone.
The new ones don't appreciate when it's cold or when it's hot that much, they either cool down in 5 minutes so you need to do the whole cold start procedure or they overheat in half a tank of gas and you need to wait 15 minutes for it to cool down enough. AutoTune does have a few problems still but it's much better now than it was, the main problem is the saws have such high RPM's which are their achile's heel for the heat and i don't know why they like to cool down so quick during winter.
how is hand square filing have you tried it i herd it takes some patients i fan make a pretty good round file grind my style isnt as grabby but cuts nice and smooth and doesnt rob power some guys like alot of hook on there cutters i dont like that i go for a blunter edge but a little more side angle if im cuttin clean wood my side angle drops as teeth become damaged so i make and edge that doesnt take as much damag or get chipped possibly. but anywas cool ya il have to try some square grind some time its not as common around here it seems. keep at with them skills in the big timbers stay safe i love cutting mostly firewood stuff
HORIZON8026 imho, a chisel tooth that is square ground or well filed with the coresponding, right angled file yields a better cutting chain. I think that the wood density (hardness), where in the hill, and silica content of the wood needs to be a consideration also. The round filed, chisel chain cuts a little slower but will "stay sharp" a little longer when you encounter "dirty" wood. The same is true when you relax the angles on a chisel chain - stay sharp a little longer. This is kind of a nut shell response however. Hope it makes sense.
+foreman2001 It varies sometimes. Usually try to to have all around chain - might cut half a dozen different species in the same day. Or the classic, redwood and alder in the bottom, transitioning to fir and oak, with a few sporadic reds, or hemlocks, or spruce, or some other variation/combination - again, all the in same day. I, like most, can get a better chain in the specific wood types, it is the different wood characteristics of the different species that you have be ready for in this neck or the woods. The stops are adjusted on the chain for what you think the majority of the wood you will be cutting with it will be. At least that is how I do it.
I want to know peoples opinion on the baddest saw with a 24 to 36" bar? Most power , dont care about weight. A saw that just murders the timber , and the second part. Stock saw and then modified saw. So pound for pound out of the box and pound for pound with mods.
Well, I would say the chain was loose from the get go, which compromises its performance 'cause it isn't riding all the way into the rail . You can tell because it was hanging free of the bar, and more so at the end. On our thinning crew, a right chain is not hanging and does not resist moving it along the bar, much. I get using a saw that is too small for a tree in a patch of mostly small diameter material. The other stumps in there all looked just right for the 562. I have worn out 2 of the older ones, and I am lucky they didn't die an early death like so many other early 562's did around here at 7000 feet. Word is, Husky worked out the issue that was causing the pin that is supposed to hold the ring snug to the piston to get loose. ruclips.net/video/28Gdln0X4Xk/видео.html Like I say, I was just lucky on that with the old ones, but I am indeed sold on the 562 and will be building inventory back up to 4 here shortly for the winter's work. For the quick tree to tree cutting and limbing needed in forest thinning, like we need almost everywhere in the west ( a Billion$ is committed just in CA alone), I don't think any saw I have tried holds a candle to the 562. Snappy. The Stihl 362 is comparable and guys on our crew love them - but they are bigger, stronger men than me, so that slightly larger saw feels right to them. Lastly, I don't know if I saw earplugs, but those saws are so loud, we wear plugs under muffs, and are those tin pants with kevlar or just oily levis. I think we should set the bar high for safety and being able to hear our grandkids...
Mark hi. I would never even consider telling a seasoned faller that they are not using the appropriate equipment. Everyone, that has spent any kind of time on the end of a piston grip, has their own style. Who am I to be telling a pro how "I think it should be done"... If they ask, well, that's another story. On the ask concept, I wish more viewers would inquire in lieu of just making random assumptions. I won't start a saw without hearing protection. I wear the foam roll up type. Wearing those, coupled with ear muffs is great for noise reduction. But,,, it will get you killed out on the West Coast, on West Coast type ground, felling West Coast type & sized trees. Why, because a guy needs to be able to hear things. Like limbs breaking. Regarding the pants, these are Key brand "tin pants". So they are a waxed, heavy weave cotton (duck) trouser. I started felling timber before chaps were commonplace. A guy had to be paying attention "back in the day". Do chaps save a guy's leg sometimes, yes. Are they a good addition for some out there, yes. Do I think that there are those that can fell timber without the aid of chaps, also yes. I cannot remember the number of times I've heard guys being disgusted after nearly getting taken out because they get hung up in the brush and were unable to move quickly, or at all because they got hung up, while wearing the over the pant type chaps. I've experienced that myself as well. They are NOT just carté blanch safer. I think a faller would have to spends a few years out on the West Coast in a few locations. Until you have started sawin a trail to get to the bottom of your strip, at the edge of the landing, and burned all your fuel for the day and still not reached the bottom, then a guy just doesn't understand. Hince the book learned safety guys that never fell a tree, wore chaps in brush hole, been hung up on the brush they have sawn having a narrow view... In open ground, yah sure, over the pant chaps work well. They are a great addition in the snow too. I do prefer the inserts personally. The chain was not loose in the beginning. We saw it at: 045 and when it came out of the cut at 3:30, I run them on the tight side most often. There is a video in the collection centered around chain tension. Imagining that when I was on the back cut & boring in around 5:00 with all the chatter it did not help with the Notoriously stretchy Oregon chain though... I've built 562s since they came out. For a number of customers & myself. I've felled trees with 24" cuts at the first 40' log. The customers have used them in a multitude of venues. Only one that I can remember went down from something cutting loose internally. It was not the ring pin. The problems that I know about are happening in use situations where the saws are overspeeding - like in a thinning application. The pistons are heavy in the smog saw as compared to the same bore size in an "old school" design saw. Bearing size in a lot of the new smog saws did not increase accordingly. On the size/weight comparison between the 562 & 362, they have almost the exact physical dimensions. Within a 1/4" in length. Both are 7" wide. The 562 is a little taller looking at the cylinder cover but a little shorter in the handle bar & break handle -1/2 or less in either. Mass, the 562 is one pound more at 13.3 vs 12.3 for the 562. Laden with fuel & oil, still one pound of difference with the 362 at 13.3 and the 562 at 14.3. West Coast trim saws. If you only are looking purely at the "quick tree to tree cutting and limbing needed in a forest thinning" the one pound lighter 362 (at nearly the exact same physical size) will have greater maneuverability and be less tiresome. As far as thoughts on safety & opinion, this is America. You get yours. I'm not going to try to leverage my ideas and sentiment upon another though. Thanks for watching.
Hey thanks for a great video man I really love watching them
You're a master as always. Been thinking of a 562XP for limbing as my old 064 stihl is getting a little heavy for me slinging around for too long. God bless and Take care, be safe and get old and retired like me.
@@stevencroon4308 Steve hi.
Missed your note here, sorry.
Think I'd go after a 400. Going be a pretty penny once you ante up for the wrap kit.
Way more power. Lighter as well.
Retirement. Yah, I died that day.
Thanks for watching.
You make it look easy. Great video as usual.
@@danielsmith2470 thank you, and for watching.
As usual Mr. Jack great job and another great video. Best falling videos I've seen pard, keep em comin!
@@woos3199 thank you, and for 👀 ing, lol
Always look forward to your vids, and usually learn something too. Thanks Jack!
@@allenhuling598 thank you, and for watching.
The little saw that could....lot of tree for that saw, great job.
Nice!
@@harmonicliving3507 thank you, and for watching.
have you ever done an insane-O on a still ms 261 cm?
another beautiful day!
@@jeremiahthomas5564 yes that one was. Thanks for watching.
There are a few big ones left, but few and far between. Good job! I always enjoy your videos and falling style.
Zdravím,jak hodnotíte pilu Husqvarna 562 XP-G ???
sir you got that chain sharp would you please make a chain filing episode ?
Hello. I have not been filing by hand for awhile now. This was a ground chain. Seemed to do alright. It is all about the angles in relation to the wood type and density as not all trees are the same. You have to experiment in on the trees in your "neck of the woods" with various angle configurations to see what works. Best of luck to you.
Thanks for watching.
曾偉晨 hand file;)
Is it just cylinder porting? piston....muffler?
I have one 562Xp and ia am think to change the original bar in 20" to a 28 bar
have a square grinder what else can you teach us? I live in North East. love chisel chain .my is razor sharp ll. I don't always get it to cut go,but when it does ? lol look out.it cuts hard maple, like pine .thanks for video. Tom
+Thomas Morse I like the Simington 451 B. Infinitely adjustable. Light speed changes. Easily transportable. Closest grind I can get to my Neilson. The stone,,, a good stone is imperative. It can not wobble.
Buy a Simington would be my suggestion. Infinitely adjustable and takes about 90 seconds.
Thanks for watching.
hotsaws101 where/what are you using for stones? I get mine from Madsen. I have a 451C
saved right out to the first break ;)
Love the 562 Vids
I have a 562 xpg aswell i run a 24" Oregon bar with full chisel Oregon chain.
What do you do to the 562 to get it to rip like that ?
Is it just porting or mostly lap top programming ?
Thanks
Ontario Canada
You cannot alter the fuel mapping. It is my style of zip kit. Thanks for watching.
Whatcha running for an axe Jack?
28 inch guide bar??
Victor hi.
Yes.
Thanks for watching.
My 562 don't run like that but I was very impressed with the 5 series saws I've used. Was sticking to 372 but I bought a 562xp and I ran 550xp. Both stock and cut better then expected actually regret not getting a 550xp for what it is it will cut.
The 500 series do cut faster and they also die faster. The new saws don't handle the heat very well especially limbing or felling harder woods, they tend to go to crap after 3-4 years.
Thanks for the feed back. That is one thing about the 3 series saws. My 3120 had a production date 96 and its been getting no love on the mill and cutting stumps .it just died a few weeks ago. But really the gas now kills anything in under 5 years from what I hear is it far comparison with the new gas.
The gas does play a part, but the older saws weren't as high revving as the new ones which means they didn't have as many problems with heat so even poor quality gas wouldn't be as bad as it would be on a new saw.
What is this issue I'm hearing about with the 5s not dealing with cold. Are was it all auto tune so even the new 3s...There is a switch or pin that needs to be engaged for cold weather. The hot part is worrisome as I'm working in the south east right now. I mostly run a 540xp and after a year of abuse it is not doing great.. Haha thought they had some smart guy change everything from angle of cylinder to the fins on the jug for this cooler running saw that would also save the ozone.
The new ones don't appreciate when it's cold or when it's hot that much, they either cool down in 5 minutes so you need to do the whole cold start procedure or they overheat in half a tank of gas and you need to wait 15 minutes for it to cool down enough. AutoTune does have a few problems still but it's much better now than it was, the main problem is the saws have such high RPM's which are their achile's heel for the heat and i don't know why they like to cool down so quick during winter.
How much for a port job on a 562xp?
Here is my email. danger_cat@rocketmail.com
Please send me a note there. Thanks.
For a dull chain, those are big chips.
Mike Armstrong...indeed! However, he never said it was “dull”! ;)
hotsaws do you not hand file or is this square ground chain
Square ground.
how is hand square filing have you tried it i herd it takes some patients i fan make a pretty good round file grind my style isnt as grabby but cuts nice and smooth and doesnt rob power some guys like alot of hook on there cutters i dont like that i go for a blunter edge but a little more side angle if im cuttin clean wood my side angle drops as teeth become damaged so i make and edge that doesnt take as much damag or get chipped possibly. but anywas cool ya il have to try some square grind some time its not as common around here it seems. keep at with them skills in the big timbers stay safe i love cutting mostly firewood stuff
HORIZON8026 imho, a chisel tooth that is square ground or well filed with the coresponding, right angled file yields a better cutting chain. I think that the wood density (hardness), where in the hill, and silica content of the wood needs to be a consideration also.
The round filed, chisel chain cuts a little slower but will "stay sharp" a little longer when you encounter "dirty" wood. The same is true when you relax the angles on a chisel chain - stay sharp a little longer. This is kind of a nut shell response however. Hope it makes sense.
HORIZON8026 Hand filing is an art form. Your chains will cut better (filed well) but try it in the rain......
I'm Looking to get an estimate on porting a ms 390 .
danger_cat@rocketmail.com
very nice
Whats it cost to get my 562xp ported?
danger_cat@rocketmail.com
hey cool video jt ,I Wana come out cut one them westys,lol!!& watch the jammer.
Nice 562
Dang ur good
wich degrees you file your chain and ow much you remove on racker.
+foreman2001 It varies sometimes. Usually try to to have all around chain - might cut half a dozen different species in the same day. Or the classic, redwood and alder in the bottom, transitioning to fir and oak, with a few sporadic reds, or hemlocks, or spruce, or some other variation/combination - again, all the in same day. I, like most, can get a better chain in the specific wood types, it is the different wood characteristics of the different species that you have be ready for in this neck or the woods.
The stops are adjusted on the chain for what you think the majority of the wood you will be cutting with it will be. At least that is how I do it.
I’m a fire wood cutter Iv droped some big boys like that always scares the crap out ove me lol
steoids ?? What are the steroids for 562XP?
Victor hi.
Custom Saw Modifications in one of my Saw Shop Makeovers.
Thanks for watching.
I want to know peoples opinion on the baddest saw with a 24 to 36" bar? Most power , dont care about weight. A saw that just murders the timber , and the second part. Stock saw and then modified saw. So pound for pound out of the box and pound for pound with mods.
Thomas Hodis SOLO 681 if you can find one!
I've drop a tree twice that with a ryobi sawzall🍺🇺🇸💪🏻
Well, I would say the chain was loose from the get go, which compromises its performance 'cause it isn't riding all the way into the rail . You can tell because it was hanging free of the bar, and more so at the end. On our thinning crew, a right chain is not hanging and does not resist moving it along the bar, much. I get using a saw that is too small for a tree in a patch of mostly small diameter material. The other stumps in there all looked just right for the 562. I have worn out 2 of the older ones, and I am lucky they didn't die an early death like so many other early 562's did around here at 7000 feet. Word is, Husky worked out the issue that was causing the pin that is supposed to hold the ring snug to the piston to get loose. ruclips.net/video/28Gdln0X4Xk/видео.html Like I say, I was just lucky on that with the old ones, but I am indeed sold on the 562 and will be building inventory back up to 4 here shortly for the winter's work. For the quick tree to tree cutting and limbing needed in forest thinning, like we need almost everywhere in the west ( a Billion$ is committed just in CA alone), I don't think any saw I have tried holds a candle to the 562. Snappy. The Stihl 362 is comparable and guys on our crew love them - but they are bigger, stronger men than me, so that slightly larger saw feels right to them. Lastly, I don't know if I saw earplugs, but those saws are so loud, we wear plugs under muffs, and are those tin pants with kevlar or just oily levis. I think we should set the bar high for safety and being able to hear our grandkids...
Mark hi.
I would never even consider telling a seasoned faller that they are not using the appropriate equipment. Everyone, that has spent any kind of time on the end of a piston grip, has their own style. Who am I to be telling a pro how "I think it should be done"... If they ask, well, that's another story.
On the ask concept, I wish more viewers would inquire in lieu of just making random assumptions. I won't start a saw without hearing protection. I wear the foam roll up type. Wearing those, coupled with ear muffs is great for noise reduction. But,,, it will get you killed out on the West Coast, on West Coast type ground, felling West Coast type & sized trees. Why, because a guy needs to be able to hear things. Like limbs breaking.
Regarding the pants, these are Key brand "tin pants". So they are a waxed, heavy weave cotton (duck) trouser. I started felling timber before chaps were commonplace.
A guy had to be paying attention "back in the day". Do chaps save a guy's leg sometimes, yes. Are they a good addition for some out there, yes. Do I think that there are those that can fell timber without the aid of chaps, also yes. I cannot remember the number of times I've heard guys being disgusted after nearly getting taken out because they get hung up in the brush and were unable to move quickly, or at all because they got hung up, while wearing the over the pant type chaps. I've experienced that myself as well. They are NOT just carté blanch safer. I think a faller would have to spends a few years out on the West Coast in a few locations. Until you have started sawin a trail to get to the bottom of your strip, at the edge of the landing, and burned all your fuel for the day and still not reached the bottom, then a guy just doesn't understand. Hince the book learned safety guys that never fell a tree, wore chaps in brush hole, been hung up on the brush they have sawn having a narrow view...
In open ground, yah sure, over the pant chaps work well. They are a great addition in the snow too. I do prefer the inserts personally.
The chain was not loose in the beginning. We saw it at: 045 and when it came out of the cut at 3:30, I run them on the tight side most often. There is a video in the collection centered around chain tension. Imagining that when I was on the back cut & boring in around 5:00 with all the chatter it did not help with the Notoriously stretchy Oregon chain though...
I've built 562s since they came out. For a number of customers & myself. I've felled trees with 24" cuts at the first 40' log. The customers have used them in a multitude of venues. Only one that I can remember went down from something cutting loose internally. It was not the ring pin. The problems that I know about are happening in use situations where the saws are overspeeding - like in a thinning application. The pistons are heavy in the smog saw as compared to the same bore size in an "old school" design saw. Bearing size in a lot of the new smog saws did not increase accordingly.
On the size/weight comparison between the 562 & 362, they have almost the exact physical dimensions. Within a 1/4" in length. Both are 7" wide. The 562 is a little taller looking at the cylinder cover but a little shorter in the handle bar & break handle -1/2 or less in either. Mass, the 562 is one pound more at 13.3 vs 12.3 for the 562. Laden with fuel & oil, still one pound of difference with the 362 at 13.3 and the 562 at 14.3. West Coast trim saws. If you only are looking purely at the "quick tree to tree cutting and limbing needed in a forest thinning" the one pound lighter 362 (at nearly the exact same physical size) will have greater maneuverability and be less tiresome.
As far as thoughts on safety & opinion, this is America. You get yours. I'm not going to try to leverage my ideas and sentiment upon another though.
Thanks for watching.
Go do for a living then comment
Old vid...that saw is long dead by now from the crap reviews they get.
Scott - Nope. Still going strong too. Cut a pretty fair amout of volume according to her owner as well.
Thanks for watching.