STUNNED | Chernobyl Ep.5 "Vichnaya Pamyat" | First Time Watching Reaction
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- LIPPSMACKER's First Time Watching the HBO Mini Series: Chernobyl. Episode 45: Vichnaya Pamyat. The finale is here and we get into the details of how the Chernobyl disaster happened, and a bleak finale for our scientist.
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00:00 Intro
01:06 Reaction Start
18:40 Afterthoughts
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Actually according to what Legasov told Boris they would each be dead within 5 years. So the 4 years and four months was just about accurate.
I've always wondered if he really made that estimate because if so, I'm amazed at how accurate he was. And can't help but wonder how long he would've lived himself, I want to assume probably about the same.
you are so right, great call back.
@@David_C_83 Not much longer, I presume. 😞 He was gravely ill with chronic radiation pancreatitis, myelodysplastic syndrome and whatever. But worse was the rejection he received from his colleagues in the scientific community. He wanted to enhance safety at the nuclear power plants for so many years. Well before Chenobyl. Only his suicide caused shockwaves big enough for finally admitting he was right. But this did not resurrect him from his grave.
Boris is one of the true unsung heroes of the last century. And the character arc in this show is very well done.
Truly!!
"Thirsty for Boris" is not a term i ever thought id hear. but he was a great man. love your reactions. you don't hide your emotions.
Just like "nuclussy", we always get something unexpected and exciting from this channel
In real life he also was responsible for a major earthquake recovery effort and by all accounts saved a bunch of lives there as well.
I almost edited that out, but thought best not to hide my true personality. let y'all decide if you wanna love me through my boris thirst or leave for someone less out of pocket 😂
@@LIPPSMACKER Stellan skarsgard is a great actor. And he has 8 kids, 7 are actors, including Alexander who played Eric Northman in True Blood and Bill, who played Pennywise the Clown in IT.
@@LIPPSMACKERI get it. He's good looking for a much older man and the character he's playing has an attractive personality.
There are surprisngly many Swedes involved in this series. The director Johan Renck is Swedish, as well as several of the actors. Stellan Skarsgård as Boris, Fares Fares as Bacho, David Dencik as Gorbachev and some more in minor roles.
Stellan Skarsgård is also the father of Alexander, Bill and Gustaf Skarsgård, who are all famous actors.
Boris is played by Stellan Skarsgård. A swedish actor who is brilliant in everything he does.
He murders his part in "Andor"
I heard he is also in Dune, which is my movie reaction that comes out this Saturday!
Great reaction. I was 14 when this happened. This is such an amazing series, and no matter how many times I watched this, the scene in the garden with Boris and Valeri just hits me.right in the feels.
that garden scene of this episode felt like such an impactful point.
Amazing show...and the amount of heroes that saved it from being much, much worse. That is hard to believe
The heroes stuck with me so deeply. They stepped in to do what needed to be done and truly did save so many lives
"Vichnaya Pamyat" (Memory Eternal) really does a number on you as it builds and rebuilds over those brutal facts about the catastrophe
I hadn't looked up what Vichnaya Pamyat meant yet and that is making me emotional :(
10:20 The actor is amazing. He is also in DUNE and THE GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO. The rest of his family are pretty amazing also.
Stellan Skarsgård. He's been in some 150 other films/series as well...
ahhh I had no idea he was in Dune! it's my movie reaction that comes out this coming Saturday!
"Papa Skarsgaard" - as people like to call him these days with the emergence of his kids in the movie industry, is just a genre on his own by now.
And the little Skarsgaards are slowly taking over Hollywood. Young Bill Skarsgaard is perhaps the most popular and well-known amongst the siblings. He's been fantastic in everything he's been in- like his dad.
The acting in this is outstanding. And a big thanks for reacting. The intelligent deeply human reacting.
absolutely great casting in this show
HBO also has a documentary called the Chernobyl Tapes, which has recently unearthed film footage taken while the disaster was happening... it's really fascinating and puts some of the show in better perspective.
OOOO i've got to watch this!
10:35 When Legasov mentions the fatal flaw in AZ-5, Dyatlov shows genuine suprise. Legasov was the only one (of the characters) that knew about the positive void coefficient...though he states that he didn't think it could possibly cause a core explosion.
Not quite. Everyone knew that RBMK reactors had a positive void coefficient; it's a natural consequence of using water for cooling while using graphite for moderation(in contrast to PWR and BWR designs, which use water for both and thus have a negative void coefficient, because steam bubbles decrease the effectiveness of the moderator).
What wasn't well-known was the positive reactivity swing associated with scramming when nearly all the control rods had been removed because of graphite on the rods.
@@Big_Bag_of_Pus Thanks for clearing that up. I'm no nuclear expert, so I should have just said whatever state secrets were torn out of the book, rather than the non-redacted table of contents. :)
Thank you so much Falko!
I remember when the news about Chernobyl broke. I was an eleven year-old child living in North West England, where part of the radioactive contamination plume reached due to the wind conditions. I recall we weren’t allowed to hang out or play outside at school for a few days whilst it passed. Some parts of Cumbria to the north were allegedly affected but these are also coincidentally close to the Sellafield Nuclear Power Station so … make of that what you will. Not much information came out of the Soviet Union but it was clear that something very serious had happened. It was a bit scary even as far away as England. If they hadn’t managed to stop the reactor meltdown then the steam explosion would have been truly massive, ejecting so much reactor material into the air that most of Europe would still be uninhabitable.
the ccrazyness doesent end there. last year when the russian tanks entered the exclusion zone, none of the tank drivers where told, that they were entering a radioactive zone.
"Same as it always was ...
@@Ken00001010 Aptly said) These scum live by lies, egotism and war
They actually dug trenches in the exclusion zone. Some got radiation sickness because they dug up the original top soil.
oh. my. god.
It's worse than that. They are threatening to blow up the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant to poison Ukraine.
I was born few years after the disaster and my parents once told me that they had a rhyme them, mocking the soviet way of governing. It roughly translates as
Under mountain works a tractor
On a mountain stands reactor
If the Swedes wouldn't' tell
Tractor still would be working there
Thank you very much for your such emotional reaction. It was so empathetic to watch this series again, with you.
Thanks for doing this show. It is important.
It is a great show. And so many great lessons learned
I enjoy your videos and when I see you get emotional I can tell you have a good heart.
Thank you so much for your reaction and showing your emotions.
Thank you for watching!
They really wanted to erase Legasov from all of this in real life, but thank God this was unsuccessful. Heroes can't be erased. After the show, his (and Boris') grave was flooded with flowers for months, from tourists visiting from all over the world.
The actor playing Boris is Stellan Skarsgaard. He also did excellent work in:
"Ronin" (1998)
"Andor" (2022) 12-episode series, 2nd season in production
"Dune Part 1" (2021)
Most incidents like this are the result of the intersection of many improbable events. The final variable was human error.
The truth they wanted suppressed was that the engineers weren’t aware of the danger that the control rods’ construction posed. They didn’t have the knowledge.
“Thirsty for Boris” lol. Stellan Skarsgård. I think you’d definitely like the movie Mama Mia.
Mama Mia is a FUN movie!!
The actor playing Boris Scherbina is Stellan Skarsgård. He was in Dune as Baron Vladimir Harkonnen - almost unrecognisable.
15:35 and 16:09 - Note the absurd gap, Shcherbina's life was cut shorter by half a decade despite Dyatlov being at the plant from the moment the core exploded because Shcherbina was constantly on site at Chernobyl with Legasov, Pikalov, and others working to contain the damage.
The finale is a great redemption for episode 4.
the finale wraps it all up. I was sad this show was only 5 episodes but they did it justice. They didn't need any more time in my opinion. SO glad I watched it
Welcome to the final episode...well done getting through this show...it is a tough one. I really like the way the makers of the show added the notes at the end to cover some of the things they got wrong, simplified, or made more dramatic...I just wish they had done more of that, or been more honest. For example, they say that "it has been reported" that everyone on the "Bridge of Death" died...but those reports are very much NOT true....so technically, they are being truthful, bur not quite. Other things they do not admit to, I can understand...such as the fact that Legasov was not even at the trial of Dyatlov and company...but it is kind of necessary to turn him into a kind of hero figure and have him do much more than he really did so that the story can be simplified enough for most folks to keep track of. I assume by now you have read the History vs Hollywood article, so you know most of the truth...at least I hope that is the case.👍
There are a few brutally honest shows/movies about nuclear power.
The others are about a fictitious nuclear war: Threads, The Day After; & Testament. Threads is the most stark & brutal of the three.
That was Jared Harris, He is in "the Expanse" and "Foundation" both really good series
Was there in 2011. Profound.
10:17 Stellan Skarsgård 😍
Im his number one fan
@@LIPPSMACKER me toooo i love him since the 90s 😍
From what some experts said, the Bridge of Death was more anecdotal, and couldn't be confirmed. Also, the statement "the reactor is now a nuclear bomb.." is incorrect, as it's not possible for a reactor to detonate like a nuclear bomb.
What also seemed impossible, that this good of a show could've been done by the same person that did Hangover 2.
Shaka, you make great call outs. And i've been TRYING to figure out how Craig Mazin's career came to this point. But I am so glad that it did.
The final steps , well done Lipps, ps i just realised from our previous chat about your camera ,you streaming on twitch ( what a clown i am lol)
Thank you Phil!! My reaction recordings aren’t done while live streaming, I think I just glance over out of habit and am always nervous my computer will suddenly stop recording or something.
A true gutwrenching masterpiece. After the realization sinks in, all the heart ache and emotion really hits hard.
Very well said.
I was 19 when this happened, we didn't know the extent, not the half of it
Your style has grown on me. Glad you read out all the end section, you can see how accurate it was.
I hope nothing ever happens like this again because if we want to avoid climate change in any significant way we need to ditch coal and go fully nuclear.
11:34 and if you remember they felt the explosion from all the way in Pripyat. Fun little fact the shock wave of an explosion, if powerful enough can rupture organs, so anyone outside would have died from severe internal hemorrhaging. The guys inside might have been fine cuz the building, but bless the souls of anyone outside
holy cow!!
I’ve heard people compare this to Titanic in terms of the hubris. That’s certainly valid but the difference is that with Titanic, they knew that it COULD sink if you actually tried by say, drilling holes in the hull. They just didn’t think any accident could cause it to sink. With RBMK 1000 reactors they genuinely believed that explosions were impossible. No matter how hard you pushed it they would melt down at worst. It’s like if your house burned down and the fireman said it was because your refrigerator exploded. That doesn’t make sense, there’s nothing in refrigerators that explode.
Haven't watched Fight Club, have you? 😉
Awesome reaction and comentary
Thank you!! Loved this show
Stellan Skarsgård played Boris. He plays the antagonist in "Dune". Let's see your thirst survive that..
Hahaha oh no, I am meant to react to dune for my Saturday movie reaction 🫣🫣
@@LIPPSMACKER lol, perfect. Great reaction btw.
I will say this, Band of Brothers and The Pacific are the top three most humbling series available today and should absolutely be shown in schools
Band of Brothers is HIGH on my list! This is the first I'm hearing of The Pacific, but I've added it to my list as well.
@@LIPPSMACKER Yes. The Pacific is more about how dehumanizing war can be on a person rather than the brotherhood that is formed through combat like in Band of Brothers. Both very emotional, but humbling and appreciated
It's not that Legassov wasn't believed or was brushedd off. It's that his testimony was suppressed and covered up. Those who heard it were forbidden to discuss it, and he was not allowed to speak to anyone until his death.
oooooof
Who ever told you the Last episode was not hard to watch never read the final bookend
I was 7 when this happened. 26 April was my birthday. I still remember the fear when the radioactive cloud arrived in Italy. We were forced to remain at home without eating some types of foods. Some months later hundreds of Ukrainian child exposed to the nuclear contamination went to Italy to be helped.
You should watch Threads as a sequel to your Chernobyl time. :D
I've added to my list of reaction requests!
We are all thirsty for Boris
I’m so glad I’m not alone!!
A few very good limited-run series' that you might want to consider:
"Band Of Brothers" (2001, 10 episodes) dramatized true story based on a book by historian Stephen Ambrose of the collected recollections of a group of WW2 veterans.
"From the Earth to the Moon" (1998, 12 episodes) dramatized true story of the US Apollo space program
and some good fiction series:
"Shogun" (1980, 5 episodes) set in a fictional version of 1600 Japan, with series characters representing historical people but with different names. From a book by James Clavell. "Episodes" are long, 2+ hours each. Starring Richard Chamberlain and Toshiro Mifune.
"Dune" (2000) & "Children of Dune" (2003) 3 parts each, total 6 parts. Each is 3x 90-min episodes, extended versions are 3x 2-hour episodes. Best story adaption of the books, but not as large a budget for CGI as the 2021 version.
"Bosch" (2014) Detective drama based on books by Michael Connelly. each season is based on 1-2 books in the series. 7 seasons + 1 spin-off season, 10 eps per season. Spinoff series has 2nd season releasing this year. Staring Titus Welliver & Lance Riddick.
"Reacher" (2022) based on the books by Lee Child. 8 episodes, 2nd season releasing this year.
"The Mandalorian" (2019) 8 eps per season. 3 seasons, 4th season in post-production, 5th season in pre-production. Spin-offs: "The Book of Boba Fett" 1 season, "Ahsoka" 1 season in post-production, 2nd in pre-production, "Bo Katan" 1 season in production, "Fennec Shand" 1st season in pre-production.
"Andor" (2022) 12 episodes per season. 1 season, 2nd season in production.
Belarus is pronounced bella-ROOS, emphasis on second part
Pure science is the search for truth.
Authoritarianism requires complete control over information and objective facts.
This was an inevitable consequence of the willfull ignorance prevalent in authoritarian rule.
❤
Belarus is pronounced beh·lr·oos
Aka "white Russia"
ooo thank you thank you!!
i was wondering are you going to watch Arcane?
I've not heard of it! I just added to my reaction request list tho. Next week starts my The Sandman reaction. I'd love to eventually add a second tv show reaction day to the mix so that I can react to more, but between Monday tv show and Saturday movie reaction I'm at my max right now. Future seems bright tho!
9:03 Well, technically, even after Dyatlov demanded they raise power they could have just kicked his ass and went into a full power down. They would’ve been put in jail or shot, but it would’ve prevented the disaster
stuck in a very difficult place :/
You talk about prison or death as if it were a democracy, had they done that their families would suffer too that is how totalitarian regimes operate.
and to think that, during the first days of the russian invasion of ukraine last year, the russians dug TRENCHES and stayed there for WEEKS in the exclusion zone.
I'm 44 right now. I was born and I've spent my youth in communist Poland, about 600 km from Chernobyl, 50 km from polish-belarussian border. You can count how young I was when Chernobyl have exploded. My sister back then was still a baby. She was sick because of radiation. I was old enough to withstand it with no major issues. Though it could've weakened me because I've been of weak heath since then. A common cold is a trouble for me and can easily put me into bed if I'm not careful.
Nobody told us anything. Parents have learned about Chernobyl explosion from Radio Free Europe being transmitted from The West in Polish. Government controlled media kept silent.
Communism is an inhuman, barbaric system. Nobody knows this better than us, the Poles. Which is precisely why we hate Russia so much.
Don't be mistaken. Putin is an ex-officer from KGB. Nearly all people who rule Russia right now are basically like that. The elections there are a lie and the winner is known before the elections even begin. In fact how much money regions are given is directly related to the support for the winner in the elections. And the winner is always the same: Putin and his crooks.
This is not only a series about how USSR was back then. It's also the series about how Russia is right now. Which should tell you all you need to know about how come Russia struggles on Ukraine when it's supposed to be a second most powerful army in the world after the US alone.
16:41 This should be a fact that creates joy - but then you remember what the Russian animal is doing to Kyiv right now. 🤬
I laughed when she called it Keev instead of (key-ev) as it’s always been pronounced up until the last couple years
@@ColtinEddy She's pronouncing it the Ukrainian way, not the orc way.
wooopsies
@@LIPPSMACKER You're fine. It's been the standardised way of pronouncing it since 2006 in the US.
During the behind-the-scenes interview, Mazin [ creator of the show ]said:
"Dyatlov made decisions that no rational person ever should have made. He made crazy choices and in the trial, Dyatlov does say the following thing: 'I will not say that I am guilty, but I cannot say that I'm not.' I thought that was a remarkable expression of - at least the potential - of guilt. In its own way, the statement was very Soviet, to have it both ways."
Mam you really cut out some of the best quotes from the episode... sucks..
Only about 10% can make it through. So it happens.