04 - Cork vs foam track underlay for model railroading
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- Our experience using cork compared to Woodland Scenics foam track-bed for n scale track underlay. The cork track underlay provides more of a solid base for turnout switches but the foam track underlay is much faster for installing on a layout with lots of curves.
This video is not about laying roadbed, it's about a loving dad and a boy feeling secure. That's how they become real men and the basis of a strong society. Thank you sir !
Amen!
I love how you have involved your boy in this. It is everything model trains should be.
Great to see the dad's care and love, getting his little lad involved, giving him some responsibility and helping to increase his ability to concentrate, and stick at something to get it done, whilst also being close to hand to ensure he's working sensibly and safely.
Great stuff working with your son. Want to make the world great again? We need more dad's that do this with their sons and the results will be astounding. Thanks for sharing.
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You are just the Best Dad, and your little guy is gorgeous, the innocence of his years and the way he works with you, these moments are priceless, this was a wonderful lesson for your son and for us all, and I'm 71! he will never forget these moments.
Thanks for your kind words.
How wondrous you are so patient with your son. He concentrates so hard and does an great job handling the tools and working so precisely. Bravo to you both!
I like how you let your son work with you, When I was around 6 me and my father spend hours building up our layout and here I am 10 years later still working on the exact same layout, however its double the size and much more detailed.
I’m doing that now! (Big fan also!) it’s great to see how patient he is and is a loving father.
I too was impressed and touched by the dad working with his little boy. The youngster will fondly remember building the model railroad with his dad the rest of his life. Plus good information about using cork underneath the turnouts and foam everywhere else.
Yes, a very good and informative video, thank you.
With dad showing him how just think how great he'll be at it in a few short year's. It's great to see a father teaching & bonding with his son & also letting him be a hands on participant, way to go dad!
It is great to see that you involve your son in the construction of the layout, it will teach him motivation, plus useful hand skills and problem solving, something all dads should do with all their children priceless memories to treasure !
I am really impressed with your teaching skills with your son. You look seem like a awesome dad. It nice to see that.
Good luck & have lots of fun working & operating your layout.
OUTSTANDING!!! When i was a young boy i would have given the world to be able to work with my dad on a RR project. Well in end i ended up figuring it out on my own. I'm 50 now and enjoy working with my grandchildren. i watch your little man and how he uses the tools so carefully, and the precision he puts into his efforts. he is well on his way to becoming i fine model builder not just RR. explain to him if you had a hard day at work and you can't work on the layout tonight if that ever happens. What my pop did was just to bury me in instruction reading tons of it. i got to the point where i didn't want to work with him anymore. i can even recall a few smacks with his belt when he asked if i read and i said yes and i did i just couldn't understand what i read, being 8 yrs old and all just remember the layout can turn out to be completely upside down and it wouldn't matter because be got to work with his pop, just you and him. oh and thanks for the demo of foam vs. cork. Wayne
Firstly, well done for encouraging your son to get involved and using his mind and imagination, a lot better than the tech garbage these days. I've used cork on all of my layouts and have learnt how to bend it by cuting triangles from one side and slitting the other. I've had no problems with this method. I have also worked on other peoples layouts that use the trackrite foam and it to is good to work with. So I guess it all comes down to cost and what you're happy with. I hope your son keeps up with this great hobbie. Good luck with it all
This video just popped up in my "recommendations" and I agree with most everyone else. It was excellent to see you working with your son on this. Amazing that he got to do so much work. Thanks dad!!!
I Love The Fact That You show your son and teach him and letting help you it is an inspiration to me Thank You Sir
Father of the year. The amount of patience to both film/edit all this and teach your son as well all while doing an extremely time and cost consuming hobby.
I think it's fantastic how much of the work you get your son to do. I've got to do a circuit for my son so I'll do the same...it's what it's all about. Keep up the good work.
+Sapeur G Definitely liked this too. That's a good dad right there.
Finally, a light, refreshing model railroad showing! Not stuffy.
Thanks,
Mark
Wow what a great dad you are! It's wonderful to see you two together! And plus I am very inspired because you took your time and you are very easy to listen to and watch. Thank you for your great video
Thank you so much!
luv that ur doing with ur son ,great father ,
That was great to see, Your son and you working on the layout together. please keep us up to date. We will be waiting to see more.
I am rebuilding my N Scale layout with my 10 year old Grandson and I am switching over to woodland scenic’s foam roadbed so far I only have some of the foam temporarily held with double sided scotch tape until we finalize the final changes. So far I am happy with it. Thanks for the video !!!
I love the fact your showing your son this like my father did i think its great hes interested in it THATS GREAT SIR
G'day and Greetings from "Down-under". It's great to see your mini-me Apprentice helping. Should be more of it. Thanks also fr sharing - very helpful.
Great job working with your son and teaching him skills. I used cork on my first two layouts. It was scored too, so you could split it and bend it around curves too. My last layout, I’ve used foam and found its much quieter.
OK....just found this video. I have used cork, Homasote ETC as sub-roadbed, I have started layouts and then had to move. This video just makes my heart proud. I live in the USA currently? I've been to Australia a few times?? There is, I hope, a place for me there....
I have used cork in the past myself. For my new layout, I am going to use the foam from Woodland Scenics. Based on your video, it looks like I made the right choice. Thanks!!!
Dad of the Year award goes to......!
NIcholas Olsen definitely not that stormtrooper guy
I had my son helping me with my layout at that age, too. We went to several train shows together and had a great time! I have a Milwaukee Road SD45 on my layout that he just HAD to have when he was about 10, plus a whole box of rolling stock he picked out at the shows. He had his final day of high school today, and at 18 years old, trains just aren't 'cool' anymore. :(
Enjoy your time with the young'uns while you have it. They grow up in the blink of an eye!
I use Woodland Scenics foam roadbed also. I glue it down with cheap latex caulk, the kind you need a caulk gun to apply. It holds the roadbed nicely, but can be removed with a putty knife if needed! For gluing the track to the roadbed, I use DAP Alex Plus siliconized latex caulk. It goes down white but dries clear. Holds well, but can be removed with a putty knife if needed.
You have my nomination for Dad Of The Year!
flyboy 2610, most kids loose interest in model railroads when they get interested in girls, start their first real job etc, but usually come back to the hobby once they are settled and their kids become interested in trains. I have a son in his forties, and a daughter in her late twenties that liked Model Railroading growing up and now my 10 year old grand son is into it big time, just today he asked when he could come over again and work on the layout, he even suggested a change to how I was going re-lay the track that I had considered and was still trying to decide if it be worthwhile, we are doing it. Our children, Grand Children, and Great Grandson are my joy and I always enjoy spending quality time with them.
This is what RUclips is all about well done quality and interactive content guys 👍
Nice to see your son involved,and good advice too mate.Great😎👍!
good to see your getting the little man involved AWESOME
YES!! Very nice to see that he involves his Son in the vid. Many will find it hard to believe, but I was 3 years old when my Father got me into model trains. I was started with HO. (Yes, HO at the age of 3!!) For Christmas in 1968, my Dad bought two AHM train sets. One was a NYC freight with a F-Liner diesel, and the other was a E-8 Union Pacific passenger train. I WAS HOOKED!!! My Mom said it was the best "Baby Sitter" she ever had. She never had to worry about me getting into "mischief" if I was playing with my trains and she was right. At that young age I never broke anything!!! And by age 6, I was doing repairs on stuff and able to put together the old Athearn "shake the box" kits on my own without any supervision from an adult. Those kits were a buck back then. $10 could by one 7-8 cars in those days!!! Oh how the price of stuff has climbed!!! The hobby eventually out priced me, and for the past 6 years, I've gotten into MSTS/OR (a computer train simulator) and this month I got in to the Railworks Simulator. I have loved trains coming up 48 years now. So much that as a young adult, my friends felt I would take a model train over a hot looking girl. Well, an ex girlfriend put that to the test one night, but that's another story!!!!
yes I was 5 when I had my first Triang circle of track and an American style loco and coaches, I'm 62 now and still at it , so encouraging youngsters to the hobby is to be admired by people, anyway other Dads encourage football and things so why not model railways its constructive and teaches patience and many many skills needed in later life !! I think Stormtrooper needs to get a life
Someone needs a chill pill!! You're entitled to your opinion Stormy, but why all this hate if it can even be called that.... I don't see it as the boy is being forced into something. The kid appears to be having a good time. His body language does not suggest he rather be off doing something else. Comparing this hobby to religious brainwashing is really grabbing for straws here.... I and the rest of us have no idea how you were raised and I'm not going to even question it, but if I had said to my Dad I don't like the trains at some point and it was clear I meant it, my Dad would have been OK with it sense any further endeavors with it would have been a waste of his money. I don't know... You got issues of some kind.....
I agree
All children are "pumped" with some kind of stuff. Of course parents indoctrinate their children to live with their (the parents') thoughts, ideas, traditions, politics, religion, food choices, life choices and everything else the children learn. We can see you were pumped with stuff that is not kind to others and with the idea that loving one's kids is bad. Tsk.
Your assistant is doing really well! By assistant, I mean dad! Haha
My son isn't quite old enough to help out just yet but this is my goal. Thanks for the vid!
I love seeing you involved with the little one!! 👍🏻👍🏻❤️
Hello Ferguson, great to see you have your son interested in model trains, would be nice also to see daughters also involved in the hobby, I'm from Canada and more in our Canadian engines and rolling stock, as for cork VS foam depends on what type of layout your building from a lot I have watched their videos they prefer cork reason is foam has a tendency to be more spongy then cork that is more rigid yes foams is more flexible than cork as for noise reduction they are just about the same for cost here we can get both for very cheap depending the season and month you buy them. One other detail foam is great when building grades on a slop from 1 degree up to 3-degree incline on a long-distance when you have a 2nd and 3rd upper deck to have more distance and change cities that is if you plan to have switching operations. Keep up the awesome plan in including your son a heritage to be for him later on.
Love to see Younger Kids getting Involved in Model Railroading.
I have been using Midwest Products cork roadbed for quite a long time. I have been totally satisfied with it, and it does have the slit down the middle so that it curves just like the Woodland Scenic foam shown here. Good video though. Getting the little chap started in a very educational and fulfilling hobby. :)
What a very handy boy you have! Very nice!
wish best further with build of layout as great see young one joy that too
thank you for sharing the video
I love how you involve your son. Well done :)
This video reminds of my grandfather and I doing this. It was unitrack and nailing it down to a table.
What a great helper you have!
[thank, you for you're great video]👍
came here to learn how do laying track but end up to watch the lovely boy, very lovely boy!
You can get cork that exactly matches the various pieces of track so you don't need to keep cutting pieces out. I have used foam and cork but I really don't like foam. It's more of a train set look rather than model railway but each to their own. It's nice that you build it with your son.
I used the foam on my n-scale layout, worked great , used 96 feet of it
Great job dad
Fantastic team work!
Hi Rowan.
Cork is a lot cheaper if you buy it in sheets and cut it into strips. I buy 60cm x 90cm x 3mm sheets from Lagler in Melbourne for about $5 per sheet, and cut it into strips 20mm wide (for N scale). These will curve down to about 15" radius without too much difficulty. With tight radii like you're using, you can probably use two 1cm wide strips glued side by side (as you've done with the foam). I use a thin smear of brown or grey gap filler ("No More Gaps", etc.) and place weights on the cork until the gap filler has set.
Regards, Ron
+Gulflines Operator funny you mentioned bulk cork. i was going to buy the $1.00 store foam board take the paper from one side and glue the other paper side down and just use the foam side for my track. it comes in all different thicknesses now.
Best part of this vid is u working with ur son...priceless
The dislikes were from bachmann E-Z track fans. 😁
Great vid as always.
Great to see a budding railroader
Wow, you're a brave one. Kudos
It's refreshing that the sprog ran the work, but back to the issue at hand - cork or foam. Did it occur to you that you could have split the cork and curved it the same way you used the foam? Yes, that is how most guys use the cork. Full width on the straights and split on the curves. Sorry to be a spoiler.
Good video.. And nice with a helping hand..!
Awesome you are teaching the young fella. My grandson is 9. Plays too much on the video games. Hope your
Hard working young man is still into the railroad? Great Video
Fantastic
your a great father, this made me cry fyi i never had a father
Watched your video nice info but the thing that got to me was how u interacted with your son didn't know that's how it's sapoesed to be if more dad's did it that way the world would be a better place!!!
If you buy cork in strips intended to use for model railroads, it peels apart and curves easily. Not fiddly at all.
Hungry Guy Agreed. Think he’s nuts for cutting cork out of sheets.
Cork is Split in the middle the same as foam! to bend around bends better.
Keen to hear how the foam has held up versus cork now 8 years have gone by from this video? I've heard the foam disintegrates between 5-10yrs down the track (no pun intended!). About to buy this foam so interested to hear.
I held my breath when you had your boy cut the foam whilst you held it in place, my 6yr old is a can of worms and is always 3 steps ahead of me so a knife might be risky 😄
Sorry for such a delayed reply - the foam is still holding up well. Although I now prefer to use cork because I can buy it cheaper in rolls then cut to strips.
lucky men those Ferguson Bros, both of them
I saw your video and loved it! from Miles
IC IC Cheers Miles. I reckon your Dad should get those trains out of the attic ;)
Subbed! love from Bangladesh! :-)
Great stuff mate, nice to see your son being responsible and keen, no doubt you will get horror comments from "Snowflakes". From a 'POM'
My dad used to say "You can't wrap kids in cotton wool". He was brilliant, and he taught me loads of practical things, and I love him so much, even 'though he's long since gone.
Where can I get the cork?
Hobby shops or try foam dinner placemats from somewhere like Ikea (ensure the thickness is consistent across your layout though).
When foam gets old it will breakdown and get crumbly. Wer cork my get hard you can soak it in warm water to soften it.
I hear the roadbed swirls the other way South of the equator :)
Lol! :-)
Hi please tell me what foam it is and how do you put the track on to the foam
Hi, I am using hobby foam but you can also buy cheap dinner set placemats at places like Ikea - just have to ensure the thickness is right. I use small nails or rail spikes to fasten the track - that way I can easily remove it if I need to.
Very inspiring. I look forward to building my railroad and hopefully getting my son involved . What kind of foam is that?
U can by a case of fork for 3040 bucks and it has 40 pieces of cork in it and they're already cut down the middle so you can lay it all down in each one's a yard long so
uhhh i thought it was a comparison no where did i hear or see one?
Damn, that foam bed is expensive where you're from. Here in the US we can get it for as cheap as $8.99 USD for a 24ft roll of that stuff
Looks like You've hired some good help. I hear they work for gummy bears. Cherish these times mat, they go by so terribly fast.
2:01: Better to use push pins for this. I find a hammer is not needed anywhere in MRR building of any kind.. Glue/drill-driver/screws/clamps/push-pins are the basic tools anyone needs..
Thanks Mark. The hammer makes getting into the chipboard easy, they're still easy to remove with plyers. In hindsight, I wouldn't have used chipboard, then wouldn't need the nails.
Would Hot Glue be easier?
think stormtrooper needs to wise up, its great to get little ones involved in a creative hobby. what does he want the little man to do end up a vandal thug !!!!!
Not really fair to cork when what you’re comparing cutting cork out of sheets vs. WS foam roadbed.
further ,,, father and son bonding
nobody wants to comment on the fact he cut the cork and did not just bend it?
Should have learned how to lay cork. Foam is worthless. I know, I've used the junk.