I have been balasting my own track since the 60's and I have to say using a spoon to tap on the track and clear the ballast from the ties (sleepers) is a great idea that I have not heard before. Well done.
That's what I was thinking too. Unless you're making a section of track that was just laid or replaced you're going to get a little ballast movement from vibration from trains.
Hey Wickfield Lane, having returned to model railwaying after a rather lengthy break, I am starting again and good to see your process for ballasting. Not at the a point yet but getting there.
Thank you sir for a well presented tutorial on ballasting. I admire your patience and talent. I was wondering how well the ballast spreader worked - now I know! It seems more people are using water and dishwashing liquid versus isopropyl alcohol. Too bad the vacuum car doesn't come in HO scale.
While technically his layout is OO scale, HO and OO run on the same gauge of track, only difference being the model size and couplers (if ur HO layout is north American that is with knuckle couplers) so if you get your hands on an OO tracker cleaner it should work fine on your HO layout 😀
Hi, just completed several sections of ballasting but found to my cost when moving the sections ( I have 3 x sections on a 8x4 layout) some of the ballast was lost,as it didn't stick enough, I didn't soak the ballast enough, will try the PVA 50 / 50 mix as per your video.
@@WickfieldLaneJunction Thanks for the reply, yes I need to soak more, first time around you think its not going to sink in and it going to make a right old mess, but it does work and leaving it alone for a good 48 hours as well.
It’s just plain water with the washing up liquid which is in the black bottle, it’s used to apply a light mist of water on the ballast to get it wet and ready before applying the PVA mix. The light mist action prevents the ballast from moving whilst you get it damp, once damp apply the PVA mix 👍🏻
Hi Robert, this is a Viessmann Tamper from Germany, they were available on eBay but hard to purchase now, with factory sound fitted they were around £350 at the time.
Hi I’m looking into having a set up with boards able to be stood on their sides for storage, would this technique hold all the ballast in place or would it still be quite loose on surface?
Yes it will hold as long as you do a strong PVA mix, I do 50/50 with water, give it a good soaking beforehand with water spray will also help. Be careful though as any heavy drop of the board may loosen some ballast
Working in the rail industry. Track ballast is never perfect. You will always have ballast on top of the sleepers and at the foot of the tail. Don't make it so perfect, its not natural.
I did all the steps. I sprayed the ballast with water and it turned black! My ballast went from grey to black sludge and ruined my layout. Why was this??
Ive already done mine before even installing it. First use wood brown spray top down for the sleepers then apply a rust red patina to the rail sides using a paint pen. Remember to wipe off the rail tops regularly during the process then use a rubber track cleaner. Cleanliness of rail tops is critical for reliable running. Once I've installed the track I will come back and weather it/stain it with some dark stain in the centreline of the sleepers and weather the ballast
@@HarmanMotorWorks Thanks, HMW. I was wondering if it was reasonable to do that before installation. I think it might be easier-you can do them in batches.
@@daveygivens735 Yep definitely allows you more flexibility to complete it in batches of track at your convenience. Plus, when the track is not installed you can more easily get into painting the nooks and crannies without being hindered by trackside infrastructure, etc
Thank you so much for this helpful video. I’m nearing the time where I will ballast my own layout
I have been balasting my own track since the 60's and I have to say using a spoon to tap on the track and clear the ballast from the ties (sleepers) is a great idea that I have not heard before. Well done.
That is without the Cleanest Balasted Track I Have seen since I started Model Railroading. Well Done.
Appreciate the comments Ellery 👍🏻
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Dude that Tamper is awesome!!
One of the better videos on laying ballast. Thanks mate
Glad you like the video 👍🏻
The ballast tamper is awesome!
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Very lovely, and realistically better than the real thing 👍
I just printed my self one of these ballist applicators for n scale. And man does it make a huge difference. Thanks for the idea.
Thanks for the video
I have found ballasting causes so many problems. Your video is very helpful 😊👍
The old way for ballasting tracks looks kinda nice... Your track bedding looks 8/10 which is quite good for ballasting track on cork.
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Thank you very much!
That is slick right there!! Great video!!
Great techniques 👍💯👍 enjoying watching your vids having a binge watch 👍
Really good video, thanks.
Very good viewing and skill, I'm sure it be OK to leave some bits on the sleepers like in real life
That's what I was thinking too. Unless you're making a section of track that was just laid or replaced you're going to get a little ballast movement from vibration from trains.
Love that tamping mc.
Good work. Looking forward to the second part!
Nice and tidy work.
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Hey Wickfield Lane, having returned to model railwaying after a rather lengthy break, I am starting again and good to see your process for ballasting. Not at the a point yet but getting there.
Enjoy the channel and good look with your layout 👍🏻
Thank you sir for a well presented tutorial on ballasting. I admire your patience and talent. I was wondering
how well the ballast spreader worked - now I know! It seems more people are using water and dishwashing
liquid versus isopropyl alcohol. Too bad the vacuum car doesn't come in HO scale.
Glad you enjoyed 👍🏻😉
While technically his layout is OO scale, HO and OO run on the same gauge of track, only difference being the model size and couplers (if ur HO layout is north American that is with knuckle couplers) so if you get your hands on an OO tracker cleaner it should work fine on your HO layout 😀
@@dustymodels Thank you sir for the explanation. I need to pay more attention to all the scales/gauges.
Very nice and easy to follow. Thank you
Bro, it's awesome
Excellent video. Where did you get the track vacuum and ballast MOW regulator. Those are real cool.
Thanks 👍🏻 the track vacuum is a Gaugemaster GM2250101 Track cleaning vehicle, and the ballast spreader is a Proses PBS-HO-01 👍🏻 hope this helps
@@WickfieldLaneJunction thanks. So if I duplicated the question of others.
Great video, can I ask, where did you get the tamper machine from?
Hi Paul, this is a Viessmann Tamper from Germany, they are available on eBay, with factory sound fitted they are around £300+
Wickfield Lane thanks
Hi, just completed several sections of ballasting but found to my cost when moving the sections ( I have 3 x sections on a 8x4 layout) some of the ballast was lost,as it didn't stick enough, I didn't soak the ballast enough, will try the PVA 50 / 50 mix as per your video.
Make sure you do at least two or three soaks with the PVA mix 👍🏻
@@WickfieldLaneJunction Thanks for the reply, yes I need to soak more, first time around you think its not going to sink in and it going to make a right old mess, but it does work and leaving it alone for a good 48 hours as well.
What liquid was with the washing up liquid that was 1st used before pva
It’s just plain water with the washing up liquid which is in the black bottle, it’s used to apply a light mist of water on the ballast to get it wet and ready before applying the PVA mix. The light mist action prevents the ballast from moving whilst you get it damp, once damp apply the PVA mix 👍🏻
Thank you
How did you do the cork under the track?
I purchase the cork in rolls, it’s 2mm thick and pre cut for track width, you can either glue the cork down with PVA or fix with the track with pins
Would you recommend doing all the track at once or in segments?
I’ve always done it in segments 👍🏻
@@WickfieldLaneJunction Ok thanks
I’d recommend around one metre each time, don’t rush it 👍🏻
Where did you buy that tamper and how much?
Hi Robert, this is a Viessmann Tamper from Germany, they were available on eBay but hard to purchase now, with factory sound fitted they were around £350 at the time.
Does this work on the Midwest cork road bed?
Sorry I don’t know that product but if it’s a type of cork it should work, maybe try a sample first
Hi I’m looking into having a set up with boards able to be stood on their sides for storage, would this technique hold all the ballast in place or would it still be quite loose on surface?
Yes it will hold as long as you do a strong PVA mix, I do 50/50 with water, give it a good soaking beforehand with water spray will also help. Be careful though as any heavy drop of the board may loosen some ballast
How does the glue not interfere with the electric in the track or is that just analogue sets?
Hi, this is a DCC layout, and the glue doesn’t effect the electric in the track at all 👍🏻
Working in the rail industry. Track ballast is never perfect. You will always have ballast on top of the sleepers and at the foot of the tail. Don't make it so perfect, its not natural.
So it’s ok to get the track wet?
Yes as long as the power is off
I did all the steps. I sprayed the ballast with water and it turned black! My ballast went from grey to black sludge and ruined my layout. Why was this??
Has to be something wrong with the ballast your using, never heard of this happening before
Whats the name of the backing track you use? Cheers ECML
Can’t quite remember the actual song but all the music I use is from iMovie on the iPhone 👍🏻
Where did you get that operating track tapper?
Hi, the yellow Tamping machine is made by Viessmann, I purchased my DCC sound version from Germany via eBay
Does anyone 'weather' their track? If so, curious at what stage you do it.
Usually not long after ballasting, it’s difficult to airbrush once you’ve added scenery and track side furniture
Ive already done mine before even installing it. First use wood brown spray top down for the sleepers then apply a rust red patina to the rail sides using a paint pen. Remember to wipe off the rail tops regularly during the process then use a rubber track cleaner. Cleanliness of rail tops is critical for reliable running.
Once I've installed the track I will come back and weather it/stain it with some dark stain in the centreline of the sleepers and weather the ballast
@@HarmanMotorWorks Thanks, HMW. I was wondering if it was reasonable to do that before installation. I think it might be easier-you can do them in batches.
@@daveygivens735 Yep definitely allows you more flexibility to complete it in batches of track at your convenience.
Plus, when the track is not installed you can more easily get into painting the nooks and crannies without being hindered by trackside infrastructure, etc
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Regrettably, no one ever shows how those Proses ballast boxes react at a turnout of any kind. :(
Unfortunately no ballast spreader works on a turnout, they always have to be done separately by using a fine brush around the moving parts.