Explaining The Gather Step To Basketball Fans

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  • Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
  • Coach Nick got on the court with Devin Williams, Filayyyy and college referee Jeff Logan to explain the GATHER STEP and why fans and coaches alike get so upset when it's not called a travel.
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  • @kevinccce
    @kevinccce 4 года назад +762

    that Durant out-of-bound saves is legendary! lol

    • @the2dudes1
      @the2dudes1 4 года назад +49

      Not much has made me that angry as I was whilst watching live

    • @hipking23
      @hipking23 4 года назад +3

      Lmao 😂

    • @devez7
      @devez7 4 года назад +1

      Which game?

    • @christianthompson4379
      @christianthompson4379 4 года назад +4

      jammer lj Against the Rockets last year

    • @unbiasOrbit
      @unbiasOrbit 4 года назад +7

      @@the2dudes1 I mean, at least the rockets won that game with a harden game winning three tho

  • @kennytheJETT
    @kennytheJETT 4 года назад +1088

    James Harden about to watch this and create a “legal 7 step layup”

    • @rshinn8776
      @rshinn8776 4 года назад +20

      @Aaron Davis i came here to say the same thing. could stutter a hundred times, as long as you didn't gather the dribble is still live.

    • @dexterramos1826
      @dexterramos1826 4 года назад +9

      Melo been doin that when he's pulling up a jump shot

    • @michaelmayers3622
      @michaelmayers3622 4 года назад +2

      @Aaron Davis cant i think that would count as a carry

    • @jimb8695
      @jimb8695 4 года назад +1

      Or may be 9!

    • @lucuix9901
      @lucuix9901 4 года назад +2

      SO basically they just explained how he is not traveling, and you still bitch that he will travel... You people are fucking idiots and I hate the Rockets....

  • @troypenaloza8033
    @troypenaloza8033 4 года назад +254

    3:12 coach nick was about to do a 360 dunk but decided to spare the rim

    • @bballbreakdown
      @bballbreakdown  4 года назад +53

      ItsTrue.gif

    • @Wilton24
      @Wilton24 4 года назад +3

      Looks awkward. This Nick guy probably sucks @ basketball.

    • @Niko-he4ji
      @Niko-he4ji 4 года назад +12

      @@Wilton24 r/woooosh

    • @Wilton24
      @Wilton24 4 года назад +2

      @@Niko-he4ji LMAO okay I see you have reddit. 🖕

    • @Niko-he4ji
      @Niko-he4ji 4 года назад +8

      @@Wilton24 r/ihavereddit

  • @daveclaude1412
    @daveclaude1412 2 года назад +38

    I’m a high school official and this is helpful. I am officiating a nba g league game and it’s the morning of can’t sleep trying to prepare. Never thought I’d have this opportunity

    • @moneymakingsim4314
      @moneymakingsim4314 8 месяцев назад +8

      It’s been a year. Hope your career has elevated bruh. 💯

  • @dorianbotley33
    @dorianbotley33 4 года назад +233

    They really called Coach slow for a few minutes straight tho lolol

    • @xavierrivera9130
      @xavierrivera9130 4 года назад

      Right

    • @MrCHI2cool
      @MrCHI2cool 4 года назад +3

      And he was right too!

    • @ivanpardo1752
      @ivanpardo1752 4 года назад +2

      @@MrCHI2cool Yes, just because he was showing it blatantly and with no Flair, That's why the ref called it, but when you see the coach doing it this makes it clear it's a travel, and bullshit invented in the NBA for spectacular dunks. Rule was and should be this, the moment You stop dribling it's step one if not You are doing 3 steps when basket only allows 2 and you make it injust because It depends if the ref likes your dunk or not

    • @jourdansarpy4935
      @jourdansarpy4935 3 года назад +3

      @@ivanpardo1752 you sound like someone who doesn’t play at a high level. The rule being the way it is allows for more skill expression.

    • @naimpope745
      @naimpope745 3 года назад +2

      @@jourdansarpy4935 and you play at a high level?

  • @aaronjasonmusic
    @aaronjasonmusic 4 года назад +154

    Coach nick flexing with the ones!

    • @Hotobu
      @Hotobu 4 года назад +11

      And with the travel

  • @vortexluigirosalina5557
    @vortexluigirosalina5557 4 года назад +423

    Traveling the most confusing rule in basketball

    • @MrE_
      @MrE_ 4 года назад +136

      I wish they'd just count two steps after the last dribble, no more, no less. Just like middle school and high school basketball

    • @billnyethescienceguy4502
      @billnyethescienceguy4502 4 года назад +81

      Seito Stockman spoken like a true sour old man

    • @mdaudi4582
      @mdaudi4582 4 года назад +6

      I disagree, it is very simple

    • @Ho_Lii_Fuk
      @Ho_Lii_Fuk 4 года назад +67

      @@MrE_ The thing is dribble ends when a player touches the ball with both hands or puts hand under the ball. Travel rules are actually simple if you understand them.

    • @Getloose360
      @Getloose360 4 года назад +1

      @Seito Stockman THANK YOU!!!

  • @randyman67789
    @randyman67789 4 года назад +204

    it just comes down to understanding a LIVE dribble and when it comes to an end. Many people make the misconception of thinking that a live dribble ends after one bounce of the basketball and two steps. Fact of the matter is there is no limit to how many steps the ball handler can take while the dribble is LIVE. A LIVE dribble comes to an end when the ball comes to a rest in one hand or the ball is grabbed by both hands. The ball handler is allowed to gather the ball when this occurs. Once you get a good understanding of that all of these moves make legal sense.
    When explaining this to people after they get it most of them tell me it's because they couldn't find the right words.
    Most people make the mistake of simply going directly to explaining a GATHER step without explaining what a LIVE DRIBBLE is and when it comes to an end ...[WHEN YOU GATHER IT]
    Coach....at 3:27 when you did your lay up and the ref said it may come into question it's because you were doing it so slowly that the ball came to a rest in your hand thereby terminating your dribble ... THAT'S why he said that was tricky. When you did it faster it was clean because the ball did not appear to come to a rest in your hand. So YES....speed does matter because if you're GATHERING too slowly in one hand and it comes to a rest then your dribble ended at that point and your two steps began
    .

    • @mattsavage6365
      @mattsavage6365 4 года назад +23

      That's where it gets tricky. The very best at it prolong the final contact with the ball by quite a bit by almost palming (and sometimes blatantly palming) the ball and slowing it down very deliberately and delaying the contact with the 2nd hand to the maximum. It's very hard to spot because these guys have giant hands and excellent technique.

    • @randyman67789
      @randyman67789 4 года назад +11

      @@mattsavage6365 precisely....these are amazing athletes that are very fast and have huge hands that can palm the ball without it even seeming like it occurs.
      Officiating at the highest level is extremely difficult.

    • @jhdivina
      @jhdivina 4 года назад +9

      Wow. I did not know that there's no step limit when the dribble is still live. So i guess it's technically legal to run the ball all the way to the other end of the court as long as the player's palm does not go underneath the axis of the ball. I mean, it's impossible to do due to gravity but still legal.
      Learned something new today. Thanks for the info, man!

    • @randyman67789
      @randyman67789 4 года назад +15

      @@jhdivina correct... Think about it.
      That's why you can literally run with the ball while dribbling up the court... because there is no step limit while your dribble is live. It's why you can push the ball in front of you in a full court sprint without a two step limit. It's why you can you can toss the ball between the defenders leg on the run and keep dribbling while taking more than two steps so long as you don't grab the ball with two hands or palm it with one.

    • @jhdivina
      @jhdivina 4 года назад +2

      @@randyman67789 that makes sense

  • @Shiftteamhq
    @Shiftteamhq 4 года назад +134

    For all that are still confused, the NBA put out a video talking about EXACTLY what we are saying here. Go check it out if you need to.

    • @talentkid234
      @talentkid234 4 года назад +3

      Why aren’t you verified

    • @kohgoomah0105
      @kohgoomah0105 4 года назад +3

      can you copy and paste the link please?

    • @drs48382
      @drs48382 4 года назад +1

      Where???

    • @myskullisred
      @myskullisred 3 года назад +10

      What sort of bullshit comment is this? Paste the link, clown.

    • @Michael____Goodman
      @Michael____Goodman 3 года назад +3

      @@myskullisred stop being lazy. Clown

  • @Juanpabball
    @Juanpabball 4 года назад +6

    Key point, the gather step is the foot that is on the ground when you gather the ball, if you gather while you're in the air there is no gather step, the first foot to land after the gather would be your first step (pivot)

  • @differentname6904
    @differentname6904 4 года назад +143

    Are you ever gonna get into the James harden step back or is that the season finale

  • @balluse
    @balluse 4 года назад +34

    Thanks for a great video coach! At 3:14, the rest of the guys are actually correct that it's indeed a travel - you just passed over the border into taking TWO gather steps. Look closely where your hand is on the ball on the very first step that you claim is before your gather step. It's underneath the ball - so effectively that means you already started your gather step. After that you take three steps. This is what raises true concern in a lot of comment sections, cause it's happening all over the league - one gather step is legal, but ever so slightly players have snuck in more and more of a pre-gather, making it a travel if you follow the rule book. You don't make the same move at 3:27, there the hand stays above the ball until you make your gather step.
    Obviously, one can make the argument that you held your hand beneath the basketball for demonstration purposes, to be able to move slowly. In that case, I rest my case :) But that's really what's happening in the NBA, so it's still very valid to argue against that move.

    • @valour549
      @valour549 2 года назад +3

      This comment should absolutely be pinned. And this is exactly why "horizontal hang" is more contentious than "vertical hang" (like in the case of a windmill). Because horizontal hang can easily be a carry when the hand is close to 90 degrees. Even more contentious is when the first step occurs *at the exact same time* as both hands touch the ball (this happens a lot in NBA). Some consider this step 0, others step 1. But NBA rules state step 1 occurs AFTER gaining control of the ball. The problem is when it occurs simultaneously, technically it's not AFTER. And so I think most NBA refs' calls are indeed correct when they count the "simultaneous step" as step 0.

  • @ShareefusMaximus
    @ShareefusMaximus 4 года назад +5

    Fans understand the rules. You just understand them differently. The NBA is KNOWN for NOT making these calls. We always knew that. Now we are being forced to watch people do them on PURPOSE. The two steps ARE for the purpose of gathering. Calling 1-2-3. 0-1-2, doesn't make what was done legal, it just makes the game easier to call. But once the players know they get it, they take it!

  • @Robert-lu3wc
    @Robert-lu3wc 4 года назад +5

    Thank you for this video. Very much needed in the modern nba.

  • @22tango79
    @22tango79 3 года назад +4

    Excellent format here with the ref and other experts. More please.

  • @iam.aarisaa
    @iam.aarisaa 4 года назад +3

    Thanks for the information coach🙏🙏

  • @zonzore
    @zonzore 4 года назад +7

    I don't think this video really addressed the real traveling violation controversy. I'll have to make one and ask coach to check it out and see what people really argue over.

  • @elcampeon212
    @elcampeon212 4 года назад +8

    I miss “Can u hear me shaking my head?!” 😂😂 I’m deadass I miss that so much. So happy pre season is happening so I can finally have some basketball besides Drew League and BIG3.

  • @YounGala
    @YounGala 4 года назад +13

    Thank you Bballbreakdown to inspire me to keep making nba videos and one of my favorite nba channel to watch and hope I can be big as you one day🙏

  • @theofficialtris3454
    @theofficialtris3454 4 года назад

    coach nick spicing it up lately with the collabs with devin and jesse! this is some good stuff!

  • @SteveSmith-sn4ig
    @SteveSmith-sn4ig 4 года назад +23

    I almost died on that out of bounds play with kd😂

  • @chocymachado
    @chocymachado 4 года назад +3

    hi coach nick awesome content in videos. first id like to say that i totally agree with you on your demonstration or how the gather is used especially in nba. i have a question i hope you can understand and either answer or make a video on a gather step scenario... my question is, does the gather step have to be on the ground or does it still count as a gather if receiving the ball mid air. let me break it down (1) receiving a pass in transition to a lay up, player is running has first step in contact with the ground (gather step) as he catches the ball continues on to step 1 and 2 lay up no problem lots of videos on that.. (2) receiving a pass in transition for lay up, player hops before receiving the ball catches ball mid air lands is that still a gather step continue on to step 1 and 2 shoot.? essentially landing taking 3 clear steps is this allowed cant seem to find a video or player doing this but definitely a possible option. i interpreted a gather step meant to be gather the ball on contact with the ground not catching a pass mid air. but my ref trainer says the rule is a player on the move is allowed a (0) step/gather step followed by steps 1 and 2. which would make both scenarios legal.
    confused please help!!!!

  • @dunmatta2670
    @dunmatta2670 4 года назад +1

    Appreciate this one coach!

  • @mr401k1
    @mr401k1 4 года назад +5

    Also have to consider the fact that NBA players have large hands and are able to control the ball and continue their dribble without getting called for a carry. Most people cannot keep their dribble live in a "fake" gather without carrying the ball.
    Also another question that I have is that you don't necessarily need to have two hands on the ball to gather.

    • @Jose-sy1je
      @Jose-sy1je 9 месяцев назад +2

      No part of your hand is allowed to go under the basketball, yet I see their entire hand below it many times while they still dribble

  • @ODdela
    @ODdela 4 года назад +49

    "NEVER UNDERSTAND" Thank god i saw this video, i can go back to not understanding

    • @mdaudi4582
      @mdaudi4582 4 года назад

      well they explain it incorrectly in this video.

  • @joeythegweat
    @joeythegweat 4 года назад +8

    Coach got that drip with those bred js and legacy 312s looooool

  • @mrdylpickle
    @mrdylpickle 2 года назад

    This was really informative and helpful

  • @franklynnyein127
    @franklynnyein127 2 года назад

    Good stuff. Thank you ❤️🙏🏻

  • @LetsBuildThatApp
    @LetsBuildThatApp 4 года назад +11

    Similar to how kicking the feet out on a 3 pt shot used to get 3 free throws, this will also be changed to a violation. You can no longer kick your feet out and soon you wont be able to prolong your dribbles.

  • @ItsTheMunz
    @ItsTheMunz 4 года назад +5

    Lebron packs a suitcase, overnight bag, shaving kit and a few more accessories every time he passes half court.

  • @indianathainon
    @indianathainon 4 года назад

    Wow you are assembling high level content hoop creators I love it.

  • @goolly1
    @goolly1 7 месяцев назад

    Excellent post!👍🏾

  • @KurozQuit
    @KurozQuit 4 года назад +26

    NBA Twitter really needs to see this one lmfao

  • @MrPainfulTruth
    @MrPainfulTruth 3 года назад +7

    I'd also want to hear about the START of the dribble. Like, watching LeBron in fast break action he catches, takes like five steps to pick up speed and only then starts to dribble.

    • @XxHistorikxX
      @XxHistorikxX 7 месяцев назад

      I think it comes down to when the player is considered to have possession of the ball. Also if you're a super star like Bron or Giannis you get an extra 2-3 steps for free lol.

    • @thebigmanufacturer
      @thebigmanufacturer 5 месяцев назад

      Rules give you a two count. Like not just two steps, but a 2 count to start a dribble when receiving a pass while on the move.

  • @EmebaFette
    @EmebaFette 4 года назад

    Thanks for explaining the gather and zero step. Super helpful.

  • @spandsbab
    @spandsbab 4 года назад

    Thanks for this video coach

  • @PRINCEkris01
    @PRINCEkris01 4 года назад +19

    This may be one of the most important videos ever created!!!

  • @mlheevenz
    @mlheevenz 4 года назад +3

    Imma bout to use this knowledge in summer leagues💯🔥

  • @thomasmann9175
    @thomasmann9175 4 месяца назад

    thanks guys

  • @adisjack2290
    @adisjack2290 2 года назад +2

    What if I dribble, step. Then while the ball is still "live" step gather then 1, 2. I do it sometimes on a hop step. I dribble take a step, still have the ball in one hand take a step forward and drag the ball with one hand (still live can dribble straight after this step) then as I land gather on one foot, step back land on 2 and shoot. So basically gather step, 1, 2 although an additional step before where the ball is still live

  • @adrianvege
    @adrianvege Год назад +4

    Gather step is not that hard to understand. it’s just a stupid rule. that’s why nowhere else in the world allows it. It’s an intentionally vague rule to allow players more freedom with their steps in any given situation where they are dribbling or catching the ball. this rule in combination with the defensive 3-sec and no handchecking is why Luka said it’s eaiser to score in the US. Defense wasn’t killed by 3 pointers it was killed by the rules being written for ratings instead of honest basketball.

  • @drfrisker
    @drfrisker 2 года назад +5

    You're supposed to jump off both feet at the same time on the last two steps. Every level I've played at has called it a travel if they are two independent steps. I think the rule has morphed and changed over the years just like other sports rules have for higher scoring games, which keeps fans interested and seats filled.

    • @ThahitmanTyrie
      @ThahitmanTyrie Год назад +1

      Nope

    • @OGPimpin
      @OGPimpin Год назад

      @@cbone1982 Bingo!!

    • @Biggiiful
      @Biggiiful 7 месяцев назад

      This is incredibly factually incorrect.

    • @LittleBill5463
      @LittleBill5463 2 месяца назад

      jesus u must have played in 1963 then because never have I heard you have to jump off both feet. it used to just be that the gather step is the first step of your 1-2, not the zero. whatever you said is null and void and frankly makes no sense whatsoever.

  • @dephy11
    @dephy11 4 года назад

    love this series

  • @BriefOutline
    @BriefOutline 3 года назад +2

    In the NBA and FIBA, you are also given a "gather step". When a player has taken more than 3 steps without the ball being dribbled, a traveling violation is called. The rule was 2 steps before 2018, but The International Basketball Federation, also known as FIBA changed the rule.

  • @onlyfacts3178
    @onlyfacts3178 2 года назад +3

    03:14 thats actually travelling...you are palming the ball so you are already in control of the ball before your feet touches the floor...you cant move forward with the ball (that means that you are controlling the ball ) so every step counts...

    • @raz318
      @raz318 19 дней назад

      If they still called palming the ball players today wouldn’t be able to move five feet without traveling.

  • @eugenealdridge7626
    @eugenealdridge7626 4 года назад +4

    So can you do 8 steps on a fast break within one dribble and keep the ball positioned correctly without a travel violation

  • @ItsRussBruh
    @ItsRussBruh 4 года назад +2

    If possible... to dunk from the 3 point line would it still be considered a 3 point shot? If so does that also apply to a lay-up from the 3 point line?

  • @ercihanates6504
    @ercihanates6504 2 года назад

    great explanation like always

  • @asdiasbndasdi
    @asdiasbndasdi 4 года назад +6

    The game has changed over the years, gone r the days of the big man that played down low ... 🏀

    • @stellarislarena131
      @stellarislarena131 4 года назад

      Because teams want multiple ball pocessions. If the bigs takes shot, there'll be less offensive rebounder. If the shot missed, The opponent gets their defensive rebound and the ball pocession ends. compared to a shot taken with maximum number of bigs go for the rebound and possible second chance opportunity .

    • @Gutbomber
      @Gutbomber 3 года назад

      Yeah then u got people like kristaps and dirk who shoot 3s haha

  • @cptfwiffo
    @cptfwiffo 4 года назад +15

    Good stuff on the gather. Two points of emphasis missed: It has to be a gather-one-two step. No left-left-right, or right-right-left, that's not normal motion, and thus a travel. (so take care on that stepback, if you hop into it, either hop with the proper foot early, or be exactly on time. If you have a rhythm of hopping but hopping left-right-up out of a left foot stepback, that's a travel)
    Second, the moment the hand is under the ball, the ball is gathered. So the windmill-gather starts when the hand carries the ball up, not so much when the ball is touched by both hands.

    • @bballbreakdown
      @bballbreakdown  4 года назад +6

      That’s not accurate. A euro step moves in two directions and is perfectly legal. Nothing in the rule book dictates which direction the 2 steps need to be in

    • @benjaminchamness5163
      @benjaminchamness5163 4 года назад +2

      BBALLBREAKDOWN do you think he meant that you can’t go left foot down-left foot down-right foot down? Like the triple jump in track and field. Saying that the cadence needs to always be alternating feet down only. So euro-step is cool, but triple jump is not? I’ve seen one play were Steph Curry came really close to using the triple-jump cadence and it was extremely effective at getting past his man, but looked really close to a travel. Watching in slow-mo you could tell he was just changing the cadence of his feet while utilizing the gather. Thanks for the great content!

    • @cptfwiffo
      @cptfwiffo 4 года назад +3

      @@bballbreakdown I was talking about cadence and which foot came down, not so much about direction. So a triple jump (like athletics) is not allowed. If you step back with your left foot, then land into a hop, but not with two feet simultaneously, that may be a travel if you land left-right.

    • @Juanpabball
      @Juanpabball 4 года назад

      Correct, once the ball is gathered you cannot place the same foot down in succession (hop) you have to alternate left and right steps

  • @danhle1032
    @danhle1032 4 года назад

    now you have to do the hop step/jump stop dissection....from my interpretation of the rules, upon ending the dribble, if you go immediately into the hop step, you can pivot on either of the two feet (and then tecnically do the mchale stepthru), otherwise if you take a step before doing a hop step, both feet must land at the same time and jump up at the same time (but in actuality with a hard look at the rules, you technically can lift one of the feet, but it just can't touch the ground again before a pass or shot)

  • @nblade66
    @nblade66 4 года назад +2

    So as I understand it, if you step then gather, that step doesn't count in your two steps (since it's the gather step). But the moment you gather, any step after counts in your two steps.
    So, since speed shouldn't matter, you can step, gather, pump fake a floater on one leg, then take two steps. Heck, after the pump fake, you could even chain it into an up and under.
    Please correct me if I'm wrong, since I'm tired of getting called for travels in pickup games when I do this, and I need to know if the move is actually legal or not.

  • @disguy
    @disguy 4 года назад +4

    3:17 hahaha that reaction

  • @hulkyouup
    @hulkyouup 3 года назад +3

    So they come up with the "gather step" to keep from calling traveling so much....Yeah still looks like traveling to me...still taking 3 steps after the last dribble...

    • @31olegna
      @31olegna 3 года назад

      Literally a gather step. Not illegal. Very deceiving. Not a big deal.

  • @Crnicelad
    @Crnicelad 4 года назад

    Thank you Nick and thank you Devin!

  • @BlackFang_XIII
    @BlackFang_XIII 4 года назад +1

    Hey Coach Nick, at 8:22, when Devin discontinues his dribble while both feet are on the ground, how come he can take 2 steps afterwards? Doesn't his left foot become his pivot foot so when he puts it back down its a travel?

  • @aja3longhorn375
    @aja3longhorn375 4 года назад +14

    I am getting so tired of specifically Harden haters saying everything he does is a travel. He maybe travels one out of twenty times he does a stepback or euro but he messes up the footwork once and everyone acts like that's the norm.

    • @pablopablo5717
      @pablopablo5717 2 года назад

      He travel 50/50 he makes fun of the rules of basketball. Back it the days we been doin only lay up 2 stroke enginee fuck tthah shit miss old NBA

  • @AncientDogesNFT-cl9jw
    @AncientDogesNFT-cl9jw 4 года назад +52

    3 steps will always be a travel to me.

    • @davidelsea1296
      @davidelsea1296 4 года назад +13

      ^ this guy gets it. You're right, don't let these guys confuse the populace. Your gather step is 100 percent your first step.

    • @eli3804
      @eli3804 4 года назад +10

      Yep the NBA and a college ref have no clue what they’re talking about. You’re sooooo right

    • @icedawaaave3858
      @icedawaaave3858 4 года назад +6

      Eli he said “to him” so just let him live his own fantasy and have his own NBA rules. but as far as real NBA rules, its not a travel if done exactly how its explained in the video lol. let him think what he wants

    • @dvderek
      @dvderek 4 года назад +10

      Every person on this comment is stubborn, stupid as hell, and non attentive at all.

    • @darkorlightz
      @darkorlightz 4 года назад +2

      @Ty Thomas Boxing Training no one's changing the rules. What used to be doesn't always have to be what IS. Something doesn't automatically become true because that's "how it used to be" or "how it's always been". If the only reason you wanna insist that these moves are travels is because you weren't seeing them before, then you're just delusional. These are innovations in footwork and scoring and you oldheads refuse to appreciate it because you haven't seen this type of stuff before. clowns lmao

  • @tbomari
    @tbomari 2 года назад

    Great video I love basketball I’m really a student of the game especially on 2k and damn I’m hype to see filllaayy on here 💯💯💯🔥🔥

  • @PapaMatt107
    @PapaMatt107 4 года назад +2

    What made this confusing is because prior to this era of basketball with players like James Harden, etc. this move would have been called a travel. There was no such thing as a gather step then and if there was, refs even ignored it. You pick your dribble then you're just allowed 2 steps to take a shot or pass the ball, that's it. So please, someone from FIBA, the NBA or whatever tell us when this "gather step" rule started. I remember when Manu Ginobili got to the NBA and started doing his "euro step", some fans thought it was a travel also but it was clearly not based on the 2-step rule. Then James Harden came along and suddenly we now have this "gather step" rule....

    • @deeppatel7496
      @deeppatel7496 3 года назад

      it came in 2009, it is what it is, we cant get mad at harden for taking advantage of a rule change, hes a genius because hes the first one who realized what you can actually do with an extra step and thats why hes so unguardable

  • @Christusolus
    @Christusolus 4 года назад +11

    3:25 you traveling coach!

    • @OSODAWGh
      @OSODAWGh 4 года назад

      JesusIsGOD lmfaooo

  • @kazurohonjo5383
    @kazurohonjo5383 4 года назад +4

    Coach nick low key got heated at the ref for a sec 😬😂

  • @badasazninvasion
    @badasazninvasion 4 года назад

    coach with the jordan 1 bred = O nice video as always. i love these explanations of rules that is misinterpreted and i have a hard time explaining.

  • @jaysonstirrup1416
    @jaysonstirrup1416 3 года назад

    Excellent breakdown.

  • @KingA-jl2jq
    @KingA-jl2jq 4 года назад +6

    You count to 2 steps but you actually have to count from "0" as in 0, 1, 2.
    I know that sounds like BS but i'm being serious

  • @jamesmace47
    @jamesmace47 4 года назад +15

    When you pick the ball up you got 2 steps. When was the “gather step” invented???

    • @gorkajames6475
      @gorkajames6475 4 года назад +10

      Who knows it’s by far the dumbest basketball term I’ve ever encountered. All it does is confuses people. The most important thing that people don’t emphasize is when the dribble ended (when was the ball picked up by two hands or when did it come to a stop)

    • @zodwakristof763
      @zodwakristof763 3 года назад +1

      It's been around for a while actually

    • @joel9873
      @joel9873 3 года назад +7

      Added to give these players another step to make the game easier for them. Instead of enforcing the rules they change the rules for these players that can't play fair.

    • @deeppatel7496
      @deeppatel7496 3 года назад +2

      the gather step is a rule in the nba, nba has different rules then college and highschool ball to make nba plays more interesting

    • @johnnytong
      @johnnytong 3 года назад

      That was created before the pre-gather step was introduced for the 4 step layup. Didn't you get there memo 😂 we need to sell more tickets

  • @ethankuchma5295
    @ethankuchma5295 10 месяцев назад +1

    This is a bunch of mental gymnastics around the fact that it is traveling and adding terminology like the "gather step" is just an equivalent to the reality of a third step. All of the discussion around the "steps not looking like a travel when its in motion" is not valid because traveling is not dependent on how fast you are moving just if you pick up and put down your established pivot foot before passing or shooting.

  • @Nellz_OTH
    @Nellz_OTH 2 года назад

    That was sooo fire 🔥

  • @Anon.G
    @Anon.G 4 года назад +15

    If you grab the ball early like nick, your pivot foot is moving when you've already picked up the ball. That's a travel

    • @MylesSquared
      @MylesSquared 4 года назад +1

      This. What Nick was doing is a travel.

    • @MistahJay7
      @MistahJay7 4 года назад

      It's all about the timing.

  • @abdielrobles7565
    @abdielrobles7565 4 года назад +32

    Didnt we already see this video?

  • @F1pizza
    @F1pizza 4 года назад

    Hey coach nice vid as always.. Just want to get your thoughts on the yugo step. In the recent FIBA world championship they called it a travel but it is still 2 steps after the gather. Should this be called legal?

    • @brucemercer7753
      @brucemercer7753 4 года назад

      I didn't see the play you are talking about... but something you should know about FIBA is the screw themselves out of some very good Referees with Age Restrictions. I forget the ages the require... but they are strict on their Refs being between No Older and No Younger than a certain age range.
      They WILL NOT hire a younger Ref that is READY and they will FORCE a Ref to Retire that is too Old. Many great Refs work high level basketball after FIBA would force them to Retire. AND on top of this... if you do not become a FIBA Ref by a certain age (in the Middle of the age range) you will NEVER be allowed to become a FIBA Referee. They do not base their employment on ABILITY alone.
      I discovered this about a Decade Ago when I became a Referee in the USA. I was in my early 30's when I started to Ref. I was identified early due to my Speed, Athleticism, Build and my Call Selection as a College Basketball Candidate by my local Officials Organization. And I loved the job so much I looked into FIBA because most FIBA Basketball in countries New Zealand, Australia and Philippines is played starting about 1 month after College Basketball in the USA ends. I was planning to Live and Ref Abroad during the Basketball Off-season in the USA and Ref in the USA the rest of the year.
      After a few months of trying to find out HOW to do this I discovered that I was already TOO OLD to join FIBA because I didn't get started early enough. And at that time I was still about 3 years away from my 1st College game. I still could have done a couple decades of work for FIBA but they would not even allow me to apply due to my age (early 30's).
      Just imagine how many good Referees are turned away by FIBA just because they didn't discover something they are good at while in their 20's. And how many 20 to 30 year Veteran Officials the FORCE out of the game that could still give them 5, 10, 15 more years.

  • @enkeltrik9330
    @enkeltrik9330 4 года назад

    4:10 but of course: the speed can make the difference about one motion (bringing the ball into both hands) or 2 motions (having control with one hand, then with 2, no gather).

  • @chosenbumbledee1402
    @chosenbumbledee1402 4 года назад +3

    COACH NICK FT. INTHELAB AND FILAYYYY ARE YOU SERIOUS

  • @Arvin_diesel
    @Arvin_diesel 4 года назад +8

    Air Jordan 1 Breds tho 😍😍

  • @DonDeLem
    @DonDeLem 4 года назад

    Had a whole argument on Twitter the other day because someone said you're not allowed to take 2 steps laterally after the gather step, which would make stepbacks and sidesteps illegal. He also said you're only allowed 1 step after the gather, which is also straight wrong, because that would then make a lot of euro steps illegal.
    The argument was about a move someone did that was very similar to what Devin did at 7:10, except the guy in the Twitter video put the ball behind his back to switch hands and then shot the 3. It was a behind-the-back gather step into a 3.

  • @ryndanriley5348
    @ryndanriley5348 3 года назад +1

    Except you can take more than 1 gather step, apparently. Like sometimes harden will take 2 or 3 steps while gathering. The rule doesnt say how many gather steps you're allowed so maybe that's why.

  • @jqa16
    @jqa16 4 года назад +4

    I understand the rule since I was 7 really easy.... 3 step rule is international though

    • @jamalelmago
      @jamalelmago 4 года назад +7

      There is no such thing, you dumb fuck

    • @rshinn8776
      @rshinn8776 4 года назад +2

      there is no 3 step rule. the only number in the rule book is 2. and the only steps that are counted are after the gather. you could have 10 gather steps if you stutter step before gathering, then take your 2 legal steps. so stop with the 3 step bs.

    • @deeppatel7496
      @deeppatel7496 3 года назад

      @@rshinn8776 the gather step is the 3rd step man, but to make it understandable its just easier to say 3 steps instead of a zero/gather step and 1, 2

    • @rshinn8776
      @rshinn8776 3 года назад

      @@deeppatel7496 no, there is no 3 steps. The rules say 2 steps after the termination of a dribble. There can be multiple gather steps so your 3 step bs is just that. BS.

    • @deeppatel7496
      @deeppatel7496 3 года назад

      @@rshinn8776 lmao u missed my point Ik what gather steps are I just said we should just call it 3 steps because most people are to stupid to understand what a gather step is

  • @jxchillinn
    @jxchillinn 3 года назад +7

    “We’re here to stop all the debate about traveling and explain the gather step”
    Not even 4 mins later 3:15 😂😂💀
    its good though this helps me understand it better

  • @MrE_
    @MrE_ 4 года назад

    Very inspiring music in the beginning

  • @kartik_3091
    @kartik_3091 4 года назад +1

    I really have a doubt. Is it necessary to start the layup with a dribble. I basically mean is it *dribble 1,2* or *gather 1,2.*
    By gather 1,2 I mean you are running with the ball in one of your hands then you start the layup without dribble.

  • @rustywind9602
    @rustywind9602 4 года назад +4

    I think they allowed the gather step for more rhythm, fluidity of movement and for the consistency of calls. If they would remove the gather step completely 90% players would be called travel.
    It just happens that some players are more creative and somehow finding ways exploiting that rule, not violating it.

    • @neirad537
      @neirad537 4 года назад +1

      What you get is that old school basketball with that ugly robotic game.

    • @bacchusthompson5834
      @bacchusthompson5834 4 года назад +1

      They allowed it because now you have more guys with less fundamentals and the whistle would be blowing all game. That would result into less entertainment, lower scores, less tickets being sold, less television views, etc.
      In the grand scheme of it all, it comes down to MONEY!!!!!!!!

  • @jkmorbo
    @jkmorbo 4 года назад +3

    I like the music but it doesn't fit in with this video at all lmao

  • @southwest1988
    @southwest1988 Год назад +2

    I like how they try to use a 3rd step and still make an excuse to call it a gather that’s sorry ! Anything more than 2 steps is a travel make it more simple rather than trying to make a violation legal 😂

  • @hermin
    @hermin 4 года назад

    back to school with BBALLBREAKDOWN !

  • @pirateslayer8471
    @pirateslayer8471 4 года назад +4

    ‘The Rules Of Basketball Are Pretty Straightforward’
    Said Every Person Who Doesn’t Play Basketball. Ever.

  • @closequarters4575
    @closequarters4575 4 года назад +3

    I feel like “gathering” was only recently inserted into the conversation. This wouldn’t have been legal a decade ago or before.

    • @Lost_Sh33p
      @Lost_Sh33p 2 года назад

      Been in since Jordan was playing

  • @jamalan7417
    @jamalan7417 16 дней назад

    the issue at 3.09 is that because he is going slow he carrys the ball with one hand before gathering it with two hands. In effect the carry is the the gather. I think ?

  • @ulysseaka3855
    @ulysseaka3855 4 года назад

    Thank you for that coach.

  • @psinformer1
    @psinformer1 4 года назад +6

    This makes sense and all but Harden still traveling on a good amount of his stepbacks maybe not all but a notable amount

    • @aaronjeffries4589
      @aaronjeffries4589 4 года назад +1

      Good amount? Naw but that one against Rubio is one that I can remember off top and a couple more

    • @dvderek
      @dvderek 4 года назад

      Please show us some because u know something we all don’t

  • @archangel19
    @archangel19 4 года назад +3

    You sure you hoop coach Nick?

    • @bballbreakdown
      @bballbreakdown  4 года назад +3

      My body is completely broken down. I’m gonna film a series where I’m gonna try and rehab and come back. Would u watch? It would be a crazy journey if I could get back to where I was

    • @altyaltyalt
      @altyaltyalt 4 года назад

      BBALLBREAKDOWN i would support you all the way coach

    • @willhooke
      @willhooke 4 года назад

      @@bballbreakdown I started playing again this year at 38.
      I'm actually playing better than I ever did, due to YT tutorials!
      I only got to C Grade though :D
      Last time I played was in 2005. LOL!

    • @archangel19
      @archangel19 4 года назад

      Was expecting a jelly fam finish lol jk. Keep up with the great videos

  • @pharxahghxst3654
    @pharxahghxst3654 2 года назад

    Glad I saw this

  • @marinastrong7977
    @marinastrong7977 Год назад

    Very useful

  • @kaanhazan4669
    @kaanhazan4669 4 года назад +4

    Imagine combining a gather step with a euro step 🤯

    • @dragocrnjac5504
      @dragocrnjac5504 4 года назад +6

      Giannis does it and harden too

    • @MrDarkKobe24
      @MrDarkKobe24 4 года назад +4

      Drago Crnjac you beat me to it. That’s why giannis can take one dribble from the half court line and lay it in

    • @OSODAWGh
      @OSODAWGh 4 года назад

      Kyrie

    • @liusam651
      @liusam651 4 года назад +1

      That’s when people mastered the rules and game

    • @kaanhazan4669
      @kaanhazan4669 4 года назад

      @@dragocrnjac5504 ik thats the reason of the comment

  • @TizOnly1
    @TizOnly1 4 года назад +15

    If anyone can show me anywhere in the NBA rulebook where the term "gather step" is used, PLEEEEEEEASE do it.
    The gather step is just some post-hoc shit people came up with after the NBA decided to stop calling traveling. That's it.

    • @TizOnly1
      @TizOnly1 4 года назад +3

      And holy shit, what filayyy did at 4:00 was a travel and a half.
      You don't get to take wild steps just bc you're hanging the ball over your head on some extended dribble/non-dribble gather.

    • @SkBillzui
      @SkBillzui 4 года назад +3

      Bro just stfu you sound dumb ass hell

    • @aleksasimovic3613
      @aleksasimovic3613 4 года назад +8

      Rule 10, Section XIII-Traveling (NBA).
      A player who receives the ball while he is progressing or upon completion of a dribble, may take two steps in coming to a stop, passing or shooting the ball. A player who receives the ball while he is progressing must release the ball to start his dribble before his second step..... more and more.
      google and you might find something sometimes.

    • @SkBillzui
      @SkBillzui 4 года назад +1

      Quote from NBA Rulebook. You're allowed 2 steps upon completion of a dribble, so if you dribble while pushing off of one foot it is not counted toward one of your 2 allowed steps. Conclusion: This occurrence is more commonly referred to as taking "two-and-a-halfsteps", where the half step is the "gather step".

    • @TizOnly1
      @TizOnly1 4 года назад

      @@aleksasimovic3613 yeah.. you're allowed two steps. We all know that.
      There's nowhere in there that says there's some extra magical step in there

  • @Donavailable
    @Donavailable 4 года назад +1

    What if the lay up is one handed? When do we count the 1 2?

  • @karu6111
    @karu6111 2 года назад +1

    Experienced basketball athletes look so much cleaner in their moves than amateurs, it's quite beautiful to watch specially in slow motion.

  • @monix158
    @monix158 4 года назад +4

    Yeah, clear as mud

  • @nuriamarti100
    @nuriamarti100 4 года назад +8

    The ref calls a travel on Nick at first, then changes his mind later. Even he doesn't know for sure what a gather step is. That's why people get upset. Can you hear me shaking my head?

    • @tigerhoods7927
      @tigerhoods7927 4 года назад +1

      😂😂😂

    • @Ryan-yu5kt
      @Ryan-yu5kt 4 года назад +4

      Because Nick is unathletic and is janky af with the way he was gathering. The move itself that he was trying to do is legal

    • @elmerinikula6945
      @elmerinikula6945 4 года назад +2

      @@Ryan-yu5kt so true

    • @simon_patterson
      @simon_patterson 4 года назад +2

      The ref was 100% consistent. Coach Nick changed what he was doing and so the call changed.

  • @uhhhhhh66
    @uhhhhhh66 4 года назад

    The hop step would be a cool video, specifically rule no. 10 section XIII.b.5. What is the limit in time difference between two feet landing to be considered "simultaneous"?

  • @sydneyleite6553
    @sydneyleite6553 3 года назад +1

    Hey Coach Nick, I had a question on the step back. I don't want to sound like I'm beating a dead horse here but I just found out about this move called the "Yugo Step" that was determined to be a travel because it involves taking off and landing on the same foot. I see a lot of step backs where someone steps with one foot, then steps back with the same foot before their opposite foot hits the ground. Is this a travel?
    For example:
    ruclips.net/video/DwGZ_7fQNYU/видео.html - Paul George at :54 seconds steps with his right (left foot is in the air), then steps back with his right before his left foot hits the ground.
    ruclips.net/video/gSDJ-HffHrU/видео.html - James Harden at :56 seconds steps with his left (right foot is in the air), then steps back with his left before his right foot hits the ground.
    Are these different from Yugo steps? If so, how?