Well that's not a good place to break down 😳 I'm sure there are worse things, but being pulled backwards in the dark ranks right up there in the bad day stories. You guys did a great job of getting him out of a bad spot. Good job 👍👍👍
gorgeous country,,,, drug a few friends home... limped a few times myself. good to see good folks do for each other. pay it forward, it will come back around to help you.
Nicely done. I'd have been surprised if the weld held. No disrespect to the welder. Lots of pressure there. Pretty cool recovery. Looks like you guys have done that a few times. Thanks for taking us along.
All your content is great fella and i may be an aussie but loved seeing the blue line flag i have friends over there in that line of work also the personal lights are called gaurdian angel little pricey but after seing that hwy vid i looked them up
great video Casey thx for taking us along hear lots of this steering gear problem with modern FCA Jeeps nowadays from 2009 -2020 jeeps everything built for nickels and dimes no wonder they bust allot
Hey Casey, you definitely have a scenic office to work from. It did look like that jeep was set up for wheeling so I guess some things get too stressed to calculate when it's going to give up or was it driven too hard? Thanks for sharing and stay safe
I was hoping welding would get off trail. I've got a 07 jk 385 K miles bought new. Have ran 35s 13yrs. I try not to slam front end. Have bought a spare 60k mile steering box. I am amazed how well it towed.
Bet you all were pretty worn out after that one brother... Looked like it was a long evening out there. Great job getting it back out,I know that type of recovery ain't always the easiest to do in hills...
In the early '80s I had a still new Ford Ranger 4x4 that was involved in an accident. The sector shaft was twisted like a barber pole with case hardened outside totally compromised and the chewy nugget center barely holding.
Very interesting video, Casey. I guess you have to be flexible in your line of work, eh? Nothing planned at the start came true--except you got 'em out. Good one Casey!
I do that with a regular tow bar. Bungi cords to the drag link to help self center and take off it works fine, just go slow as the front wheels will try to steer over rocks and such.
that actually makes me wonder how possible it would be to take a folding flat-tow tongue like old Jeeps were occaionally equipped with, modify it to hook on to the factory hooks on various generations of Wrangler, and drag it out to bolt it on when it's necessary to drag out one with a busted steering shaft. I'm curious if something could be built that would work with YJ, TJ, JK, and JL front bumpers.
I had an old adjustable tow bar that would fit most anything, (it may have been an old Uhaul rental) there were some clamps for connecting to a bumper so I removed them and replaced them with very heave threaded lifting eyes. They would swivel at the end so they would pivot up & down yet bolt to the frame under tow hooks or empty holes. The coupler end had a slotted arm similar to a adjusting bracket on an alternator, only much heaver which allowed it to open and close to match any frame with. It was great untill I loaned it out and it was never returned. As long as the front alignment was close it was used just like any tow bar. I did several recovery with it, and towed cars on the highway many many times.
5:44 Holy moley. One heck of a place and part to weld. Any splined part which sees torque is likely case hardened, which would further complicate welding (if it wasn't already hard enough)
The lights under the rig look absolutely stupid while in town but get that rig out on the trail and they are absolutely functional and served a purpose
If you take a short strap to the front tow hooks and the center of the strap take a clevis and twist it several times before putting it on the towing vehicle you get a great self steering tow bar
I woulda been amazed if that weld had have held, it was a good effort though. It seems that those shafts seem to be a common failure point on that generation jeep
I wonder if a device similar to one of those police A-pillar lights would make for a good camera mount. You could pivot it around like you do with the handheld but you wouldn't have to keep a hand on it the whole time if you needed both hands on the vehicle controls.
Rendezvous in the big city: meet me at the corner of Broadway and 112th street. Rendezvous in southern Utah: meet me at the corner of the cactus and the rock.
Is the broken selector shaft a JK thing? Or is the Utah terrain just too hard on JK selector shafts? I'm going to make this comment and I'm sure I'll break the selector shaft on my Chere-okee , but on the older Jeeps I've never seen that happen. I've seen them rip off the frame before ...even managed to do it a few times on my XJ. But never seen the selector shaft snap
Question for you Casey, could you have released the straps from the steering put on 2 short not crossed tow straps and towed the jeep out slowly and relied on the caster angle to steer the jeep with the aid of the short parallel tow straps
It could be done, it's not easy to set up though. By default the caster is set the wrong way, so when you pull forward it will want to steer hard over. That's why they pulled it out backwards, in reverse it wants to self centre. IMO, the only way to tow it out forwards would be to have a steel A-frame bolted to the steering arm. Edit: and then they turned it around, because I hadn't reached the end of the video yet.
What wa sthat Welder? Years ago there was a system that replaced the alternator ,oh sorry in those days , Dynamo! with a unit that not only charged the battery ,but was also stick welder, bloody useless though. :-)
John doesn't need a babysitter thats for sure...right up until he did. Safety in numbers. My wife met me with the rollback...just barely at the edge of the pavement.
@@CaseysOffRoadRecovery Now i have all PSC hydro assist no more issues to worry about. Cant wait to visit your area. April wife and i will be passing thru.. stay warm
I enjoyed the video, but I must have missed something....if the weld didn’t work, why haven’t you put the thing in tow and headed out? If the weld worked why are they towing him out to the road?
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Man oh man! Casey, you get some of the most beautiful shots with a camera! That sunset over the edge of the mountains is stunning! Thank you!
More to come!
Gee Casey great to see so much from you this week
Casey enjoyed the video. Thanks for sharing. Stay safe
So nice to see a recovery done slow and smooth an under control with good communication all the way.
No lives risked, no vehicles damaged.
I thought that was the only way to do recovery as a paid professional
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I thought it was the only way to do it as an amateur for free.
I will have to post what some of the city tourists do.
You’ve been killing it with the uploads! Way to go. We enjoy watching each adventure.
And Casey says he slacking...lol
No steering, no problem. Great results in your efforts. Thank you.
Well that's not a good place to break down 😳
I'm sure there are worse things, but being pulled backwards in the dark ranks right up there in the bad day stories. You guys did a great job of getting him out of a bad spot.
Good job 👍👍👍
Jeep dragged out backwards through some gnarly terrain... by a Toyota! Perfect!
The Bluegrass music early in the video was great.
gorgeous country,,,, drug a few friends home... limped a few times myself. good to see good folks do for each other. pay it forward, it will come back around to help you.
Your right, a light dusting of that white stuff makes it look beautiful.
I think it’s great you promote going outdoors and enjoying where you live! Love the content no matter if it’s dark or light!
Wow it is a Casey marathon weekend . Awesome ! :-)
I catch myself looking away from the screen when the welder is going.
Sally Goodin and Billy in the Lowground - great fiddle tunes!!!
I kept waiting for the rollback to show up.🤔😁😂 Great video, thanks.
Awesome night Recovery 🌙
Nicely done. I'd have been surprised if the weld held. No disrespect to the welder. Lots of pressure there. Pretty cool recovery. Looks like you guys have done that a few times. Thanks for taking us along.
At least once....lol
What ever it takes to get the job done 👍👍
Amazing your able to locate anyone out there.
It is only 22k acres. Been Roaming it for 20 years so we know it pretty well.
Thanks Casey, love you guys content!
When the welding started... talk about your Road Side Assistance
Love Utah not much on the video today. Glad u made it out OK.
Thin Blue Line Flag, Excellent! Good people.
All your content is great fella and i may be an aussie but loved seeing the blue line flag i have friends over there in that line of work also the personal lights are called gaurdian angel little pricey but after seing that hwy vid i looked them up
Great camera work.
As always positive. Beautiful views
Yahoo---- On the road again!! keep up the great video's, should be 1M subs....
great video Casey thx for taking us along hear lots of this steering gear problem with modern FCA Jeeps nowadays from 2009 -2020 jeeps everything built for nickels and dimes no wonder they bust allot
Wishful thinking welding that up but hey you got him out. Neat little welder though, wouldn't mind checking it out.
Ya that would have been a miracle.
Well that turned out alright!
What....it didn't turn at all....lol
Very nice fiddle "Vamp in the Middle".
Another great video Casey
firewoodfred says "your doing a great job Casie " !!!
I like the music
Hey Casey, you definitely have a scenic office to work from. It did look like that jeep was set up for wheeling so I guess some things get too stressed to calculate when it's going to give up or was it driven too hard? Thanks for sharing and stay safe
Where there's a weld there's a way.
Well, not always.
But hell of a try.
I was hoping welding would get off trail. I've got a 07 jk 385 K miles bought new. Have ran 35s 13yrs. I try not to slam front end. Have bought a spare 60k mile steering box. I am amazed how well it towed.
This would be crazy to do in the day time, where there is a will there is a way!
Yes, you do live in a beautiful place. I have seen a lot of it driving from Chula Vista back to Winnipeg. Many years ago now.
Bet you all were pretty worn out after that one brother... Looked like it was a long evening out there. Great job getting it back out,I know that type of recovery ain't always the easiest to do in hills...
love your ending
In the early '80s I had a still new Ford Ranger 4x4 that was involved in an accident. The sector shaft was twisted like a barber pole with case hardened outside totally compromised and the chewy nugget center barely holding.
Very interesting video, Casey. I guess you have to be flexible in your line of work, eh? Nothing planned at the start came true--except you got 'em out. Good one Casey!
I do that with a regular tow bar. Bungi cords to the drag link to help self center and take off it works fine, just go slow as the front wheels will try to steer over rocks and such.
that actually makes me wonder how possible it would be to take a folding flat-tow tongue like old Jeeps were occaionally equipped with, modify it to hook on to the factory hooks on various generations of Wrangler, and drag it out to bolt it on when it's necessary to drag out one with a busted steering shaft. I'm curious if something could be built that would work with YJ, TJ, JK, and JL front bumpers.
I had an old adjustable tow bar that would fit most anything, (it may have been an old Uhaul rental) there were some clamps for connecting to a bumper so I removed them and replaced them with very heave threaded lifting eyes. They would swivel at the end so they would pivot up & down yet bolt to the frame under tow hooks or empty holes. The coupler end had a slotted arm similar to a adjusting bracket on an alternator, only much heaver which allowed it to open and close to match any frame with. It was great untill I loaned it out and it was never returned. As long as the front alignment was close it was used just like any tow bar. I did several recovery with it, and towed cars on the highway many many times.
5:44 Holy moley. One heck of a place and part to weld. Any splined part which sees torque is likely case hardened, which would further complicate welding (if it wasn't already hard enough)
Thanks Casey!!!
The lights under the rig look absolutely stupid while in town but get that rig out on the trail and they are absolutely functional and served a purpose
I like your programs better than that recovery cuz he's stuck on his self and you guys look like you work real hard at what you're doing
If you take a short strap to the front tow hooks and the center of the strap take a clevis and twist it several times before putting it on the towing vehicle you get a great self steering tow bar
That does work quite well. I like two short straps crossed as well....
Watched, liked and a comment. ✅
Great video thank you!
I like your choice of music.
I don’t mean to sound petty, but I hope you got a retainer on that recovery. Glad John was there to help.
Yes I did it was a freeby.
And some fine bluegrass music. :))
I woulda been amazed if that weld had have held, it was a good effort though. It seems that those shafts seem to be a common failure point on that generation jeep
Ya we didn't know if it would or not. We have sure pulled a bunch of them out with broken gears and sector shafts.
@@CaseysOffRoadRecovery it was worth a try 🤷♂️ that’s a big cold piece of metal to try to put a hot weld into
I wonder if a device similar to one of those police A-pillar lights would make for a good camera mount. You could pivot it around like you do with the handheld but you wouldn't have to keep a hand on it the whole time if you needed both hands on the vehicle controls.
it looks like he was towing more than the jeep up that steep hill!
Where did you get that roof rack cross bracket for the factory rails on the Cherokee that looked really nice
Not sure
Didnt do too bad recording in the dark 👍👍
It was all luck and some killer editing skills......lol mostly luck
Rendezvous in the big city: meet me at the corner of Broadway and 112th street. Rendezvous in southern Utah: meet me at the corner of the cactus and the rock.
Is the broken selector shaft a JK thing? Or is the Utah terrain just too hard on JK selector shafts?
I'm going to make this comment and I'm sure I'll break the selector shaft on my Chere-okee , but on the older Jeeps I've never seen that happen. I've seen them rip off the frame before ...even managed to do it a few times on my XJ. But never seen the selector shaft snap
How far did you have to drive and how long did it take you to get to the Jeep? Trying to get some idea on how fast the sun sets in your area.
It leaves in a hurry. It is rough terrain so 20 minutes or so.
Question for you Casey, could you have released the straps from the steering put on 2 short not crossed tow straps and towed the jeep out slowly and relied on the caster angle to steer the jeep with the aid of the short parallel tow straps
It will lock one direction or the other on soft surfaces or when it gets on a roxk erc..
It could be done, it's not easy to set up though.
By default the caster is set the wrong way, so when you pull forward it will want to steer hard over.
That's why they pulled it out backwards, in reverse it wants to self centre.
IMO, the only way to tow it out forwards would be to have a steel A-frame bolted to the steering arm.
Edit: and then they turned it around, because I hadn't reached the end of the video yet.
On the video did you use your cell phones or your CDs or walkie-talkies for Communication when you were pulling him out?
We just used common sense. He was a good driver kept the strap tight and knew when to mash on the brakes to skid around a bit.
👍👍
Maybe not exciting bit you got him out and that is what counts.
What wa sthat Welder? Years ago there was a system that replaced the alternator ,oh sorry in those days , Dynamo! with a unit that not only charged the battery ,but was also stick welder, bloody useless though. :-)
Karnage welder
@@CaseysOffRoadRecovery Thank you!
corr.rocks/karnage
@@CaseysOffRoadRecovery Thanks.
Now that was interesting, what did you strap to hold the steering straight?
Knuckle to control arm both directions.
@@CaseysOffRoadRecovery Thanks Hope i never need to use it.
Newer Jeep sector shafts sure seem to break often. FCA, are you listening?
I guess that shaft is hardened steel? Tough to weld... Heavy-duty stuff available for replacement?
Yes
Whats the name of the fiddle music at 2minutes ?
Only one question: why was Casey there ?? Did he have the rollback parked up at the pavement ?
John doesn't need a babysitter thats for sure...right up until he did. Safety in numbers. My wife met me with the rollback...just barely at the edge of the pavement.
i have a 08 jku on 37"s 100,000 miles never broke my sector shaft, I must of been lucky
Very. I have fixed quite a few.
@@CaseysOffRoadRecovery Now i have all PSC hydro assist no more issues to worry about. Cant wait to visit your area.
April wife and i will be passing thru.. stay warm
Sounds good. You will love it.
Are those trails marked? Would a novice get lost there?!
I guess you can get lost in the Cuburban hell of a city easier than out here.
we here in southern wisconsin we got dumped on 8 inches of snow so you can have all the MOISTURE YOU WANT. LOL
I enjoyed the video, but I must have missed something....if the weld didn’t work, why haven’t you put the thing in tow and headed out? If the weld worked why are they towing him out to the road?
I’m sure someone’s tried a car dolly for recovery would that work.
We have and they are usually just a bigger pain.
Night Ops, land, sea, and air, always dangerous.
Short towing.
Too bad that bar on the front doesn't double as a tow bar.
Well i gess it's a nice place if u wont to go to no where.
Well would you look at that,just look at it.A Toyota pulling a Jeep.😂🤣😂
Yay!, Hooray I'm FIRST!!👍👍😂
Need a stick welder for that repair.
Still a waste of time.
@@haroldphipps3457 OK sir. Have a great day!
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Where there's a weld there's a way.
Well, not always.
But hell of a try.