As far as I know, IE is still fully functional. The only thing that opens Edge instead is a DLL file, and if you replace it with an earlier one, it can still open. Though it is excluded from the application list and search results
_ahem_ Just try opening classic Roblox, and then clicking a link - It'll open up IE 11, which is somehow still included in Win 11 23H2. Another way is to open the legacy HelpHTML viewer, which also uses IE11.
Hi, I'm Project NewSpartan developper. As we talked, i'm creating a UWP application to recreate Legacy Edge. This project is advancing, but far from finished. I'm advancing it. I will tell you when the result will be good to potentially include it inside Windows. Know that now, NewSpartan uses MSEdgeWebview2 to work.
Sounds cool. It seems that EdgeHTML is still in Windows 11 untouched so recreating Edge Legacy shouldn't be that hard on that note. The unfortunate thing it that I attempted the same course of action to recreate a fully functional and fully featured Edge Legacy browser but I couldn't quite work around some of the errors I was getting. As for the UI it is even harder to replicate the square tabs for example. Anyways I'd like to see where this goes. What I'd try to do is create a theme or something to make the new Chromium Based Edge look like the Legacy version but I'm not sure how to do that yet.
@@BloomDevelop NewSpartan will be open sourced. As said in the first issue, I will commit on github when I think NewSpartan will be an interressant Project. More and more, NewSpartan is becoming an interressant project, and not just UWP app with WebView.
@@gravitycoil828 still doesn't grant write access to that folder, on windows 11, it only gives read and delete permissions for some reason Deleting files from it? Sure. Writing anything back or modifying existing files? Not even if you access the drive with a non linux liveOS
@mrfoxesite i get that it does extend the lifespan of the browser (since some browsers cant display modern but display legacy fine), but i feel like some of these browsers are still a bit too new for that
While researching this, I found a potential solution for disabling Test Mode and NoIntegrityChecks when using pre-release signed files in Windows. In other words, RevertSV might be able to boot without Test Mode and NoIntegrityChecks enabled soon.
I've successfully compiled the last working non pre-release version of Edge Legacy to an appx file may I know, why does the non pre-release version not work on Windows 11?
APIs have changed enough between versions that it just doesn't work. Legacy edge, for some reason, is tied way closer to the system than almost any other browser needs to be.
@@laglife Have you tested the pre-release version of the browser on Windows 11 23H2? If you haven't maybe can you help me find the folder that contains it's data from that release as shown in the video? Also is there an SDK for the pre-release build of Windows 11 that contained that version of Edge Legacy? I would like to try and compile it as well to an appx file and see if it can bypass the pre-release issues. Forgot to mention that I'm working to find a method to exclude just Edge Legacy from Windows Code Integrity instead of disabling it all together since it can pose a threat.
It's best to be on windows 10 version 1607 to 1803 only because in that person you get first of all legacy edge browser and then you get a glimpse of Cortana the Cortana doesn't work as it did few years back but anyways it acts as a personal digital assistant still today. Also the wallpaper and the modern UI off windows 10 RPM and subsequent version till 1809 is just amazing. Even in 2024 I use windows 10 version 1709
ive done this alot of times in 2021,2022 on windows 10 and 11, and i didnt have to disable any integrity check stuff, just the browser sometimes had corrupt font glyphs
I really wish to have the browser back... I just don't have admin privs... It makes me cry to not have the browser, cause being reminded of it gives me flashbacks to the first laptop I had that wasn't my dad's ASUS one.. D:
Nice video bro! Also I am switching to Linux (KDE Neon), any tips you can give me? I tried it a long time ago but Davinci resolve seems impossible with my AMD GPU
Davinci resolve should work with an AMD GPU, the main problem for so many people is that it completely refuses to open due to library issues. Try installing it in a container if that's a problem. Honestly the single best tip I can give is that if you have never used Linux before, don't just blindly enter things into the terminal, try to understand what you are doing before running it. Not only will this prevent a significant number of potential issues but you'll learn a lot.
@@laglifeI mean I know something on Linux, I already experienced it. But I never got to fix this issue even with installing the drivers from the AMD Website. Could it be a kernel issue related to the drivers? I saw it said "Possible firmware missing: ...amdgpu...". And how do I use a container?
If you have the drivers from AMD's website installed you should have GPU acceleration already, check what KDE shows as the Graphics Processor in settings.
Code Integrity would still flip, the pre-release tag IIRC is controlled by the certificate MS signed it with and removing it does not help (and that changes a number of bytes!) I think what happens is that first off, Windows Code Integrity sees the pre-release signed executable/library, and refuses to launch it, but if you remove the certificate the file is now just an altered system executable that has no signature. Only way to fix it would be to resign it with a valid certificate that Windows trusts.
I assume that if you successfully imported the version from Windows 10 1709 or earlier it could work. Windows 10 1709 and earlier seems to allow both browsers to co exist.
@@samsunggalaxynote3868 could've passed the requirement, gotten verified, then people unsubscribed? not sure if RUclips takes away the verification badge at that point.
It's not entirely worse has it was lightweight and had no bloat like the new Chromium Edge, the problem is the the old legacy Edge is just outdated now
doesnt exactly work like that. there is a stub in the SystemApps folder, meaning that all the files from legacy edge were removed. running the microsoft edge installer with a registry key installed does not fix this
Not only that, let’s try to fully restore Internet Explorer.
making a 2024 version of IE would be cool, actually. honestly, I'd use it if it was faster and was up-to-date and better than Firefox and co.!
As far as I know, IE is still fully functional. The only thing that opens Edge instead is a DLL file, and if you replace it with an earlier one, it can still open. Though it is excluded from the application list and search results
@@steve_1507 yeah.
@@starleaf-luna I know, right??
_ahem_ Just try opening classic Roblox, and then clicking a link - It'll open up IE 11, which is somehow still included in Win 11 23H2.
Another way is to open the legacy HelpHTML viewer, which also uses IE11.
Hi,
I'm Project NewSpartan developper.
As we talked, i'm creating a UWP application to recreate Legacy Edge.
This project is advancing, but far from finished. I'm advancing it.
I will tell you when the result will be good to potentially include it inside Windows.
Know that now, NewSpartan uses MSEdgeWebview2 to work.
Can you show me how it looks as of now?
Sounds cool. It seems that EdgeHTML is still in Windows 11 untouched so recreating Edge Legacy shouldn't be that hard on that note. The unfortunate thing it that I attempted the same course of action to recreate a fully functional and fully featured Edge Legacy browser but I couldn't quite work around some of the errors I was getting. As for the UI it is even harder to replicate the square tabs for example. Anyways I'd like to see where this goes.
What I'd try to do is create a theme or something to make the new Chromium Based Edge look like the Legacy version but I'm not sure how to do that yet.
To all who wants to see NewSpartan advancement, I talked a bit in the first issue of my github project (user: PaologGihub, name:Project_NewSpartan)
When it will be open sourced?
@@BloomDevelop NewSpartan will be open sourced. As said in the first issue, I will commit on github when I think NewSpartan will be an interressant Project.
More and more, NewSpartan is becoming an interressant project, and not just UWP app with WebView.
Next : Windows Vista welcome animation in Windows 10
???
@@bangusangga2708 the animation after the boot animation of Vista
@@windowsdefender7259 Welcome Center?
@@windowsdefender7259 the one with the Windows Vista orb glowing and the Autostart sound playing, right?
nahhh that's cursed
Old Edge was the best browser for ancient PCs.. It's good to see it back...
Uh
@@MSWinNT hello
3:30 Windowsapps has been the bane of my existence because of that.
The write permission of that folder is so locked down I can't even...
replace the permissions on that folder with your user name, then apply read write access to administrators!
@@gravitycoil828 still doesn't grant write access to that folder, on windows 11, it only gives read and delete permissions for some reason
Deleting files from it? Sure.
Writing anything back or modifying existing files? Not even if you access the drive with a non linux liveOS
@@charginginprogresss give me a sec..
Great video! :D
Nice video!
4:03 how did you blur that area in kdenlive
@mrfoxesite I want to blur a specific area of the screen not the whole screen
@mrfoxesite I use the obscure effect however a solid black can work
2:19 disappointed that google forces the legacy site on this browser
@mrfoxesite i get that it does extend the lifespan of the browser (since some browsers cant display modern but display legacy fine), but i feel like some of these browsers are still a bit too new for that
just change the user agent string to that of chrome's latest version and it'll work
Very nice! You should make a video on upgrading windows 10 UI.
On 23H2 the register command does nothing so yeah its no longer works.
Got an Idea for you, idk if it's possible, but can you try to bring back The Search UI (cortana) from Windows 10 180x to Windows 10 22H2 ?
@mrfoxesite nah it's the same as the current one, what I mean is, the merged cortana and search
@mrfoxesite oh lol ok
While researching this, I found a potential solution for disabling Test Mode and NoIntegrityChecks when using pre-release signed files in Windows.
In other words, RevertSV might be able to boot without Test Mode and NoIntegrityChecks enabled soon.
So 1.1 or 2.0 coming soon?
I've successfully compiled the last working non pre-release version of Edge Legacy to an appx file may I know, why does the non pre-release version not work on Windows 11?
APIs have changed enough between versions that it just doesn't work. Legacy edge, for some reason, is tied way closer to the system than almost any other browser needs to be.
@@laglife Have you tested the pre-release version of the browser on Windows 11 23H2? If you haven't maybe can you help me find the folder that contains it's data from that release as shown in the video? Also is there an SDK for the pre-release build of Windows 11 that contained that version of Edge Legacy? I would like to try and compile it as well to an appx file and see if it can bypass the pre-release issues. Forgot to mention that I'm working to find a method to exclude just Edge Legacy from Windows Code Integrity instead of disabling it all together since it can pose a threat.
@mrfoxesite im afraid I don't yet have time to do it yet
I'd love to see more porting videos (maybe porting UIs between versions?)
Fun fact: I with my friends have been trying this since 2022 but didn't aware of the 2nd issue yet ;)
I really thought it was related to broker but did not expecting the 2nd issue…
Nice, i've never seen in my life edge with rounded corners 😅
nice video!
LagLife, thanks for inspiring me for making Legacy edge work on Windows 11 🙏
It's best to be on windows 10 version 1607 to 1803 only because in that person you get first of all legacy edge browser and then you get a glimpse of Cortana the Cortana doesn't work as it did few years back but anyways it acts as a personal digital assistant still today. Also the wallpaper and the modern UI off windows 10 RPM and subsequent version till 1809 is just amazing. Even in 2024 I use windows 10 version 1709
I used 1709 as well but needed to upgrade cuz most software was not supported on that version sadly.
@@itztechpulse2 Which software are you facing problem in?
ive done this alot of times in 2021,2022 on windows 10 and 11, and i didnt have to disable any integrity check stuff, just the browser sometimes had corrupt font glyphs
@mrfoxesite why would I?
I kind of wish MS didn't throw in the towel with EdgeHTML, I think Edge had the best UI out of all the modern web browsers.
i prefer Edge Legacy and IE11 / 9 so much then chromium edge
The old Edge was better in terms of design, i feel like it matched the UI of Windows 10 more, especially the early versions (1507/1511)
I really wish to have the browser back... I just don't have admin privs... It makes me cry to not have the browser, cause being reminded of it gives me flashbacks to the first laptop I had that wasn't my dad's ASUS one.. D:
Alguien de habla hispana que halla entendido el tutorial?? Como esta en ingles y a la velocidad que va me pierdo🥲
It’s weird that this is nostalgic now
@laglife If I may ask, what version of Windows 10 did you use, was it fully updated and if so how did you get it to work. It's not quite working.
19045.3155 or so, the version must not end with 3803 or higher for this to work
@@laglife if i am using 19041.5011 will it still work?
Nice video bro! Also I am switching to Linux (KDE Neon), any tips you can give me? I tried it a long time ago but Davinci resolve seems impossible with my AMD GPU
Davinci resolve should work with an AMD GPU, the main problem for so many people is that it completely refuses to open due to library issues. Try installing it in a container if that's a problem.
Honestly the single best tip I can give is that if you have never used Linux before, don't just blindly enter things into the terminal, try to understand what you are doing before running it. Not only will this prevent a significant number of potential issues but you'll learn a lot.
@@laglifeI mean I know something on Linux, I already experienced it. But I never got to fix this issue even with installing the drivers from the AMD Website. Could it be a kernel issue related to the drivers? I saw it said "Possible firmware missing: ...amdgpu...". And how do I use a container?
If you have the drivers from AMD's website installed you should have GPU acceleration already, check what KDE shows as the Graphics Processor in settings.
Ok thank you @@laglife
i think they removed everything from the microsoft edge folder
my legacy edge folder was empty, will this work for me
sadly no
@@10GTechoh well at least i found a tutorial to downgrade to windows 10 2004
can you make a video on echelon or silerfox?
I did one on Silverfox a few months ago
ruclips.net/video/yKE_FHJgLn4/видео.html
can't you just open the pre-release LE in a hex editor and change one random unused byte to get rid of the "pre-release" tag?
Code Integrity would still flip, the pre-release tag IIRC is controlled by the certificate MS signed it with and removing it does not help (and that changes a number of bytes!)
I think what happens is that first off, Windows Code Integrity sees the pre-release signed executable/library, and refuses to launch it, but if you remove the certificate the file is now just an altered system executable that has no signature. Only way to fix it would be to resign it with a valid certificate that Windows trusts.
@@laglife ah, I see, so it's not like the visual style algorithm where the simplest of modifications would make it not load on an unpatched system XD
is it possible have both Microsoft edge chromium version and legacy microsoft edge on windows 11
I assume that if you successfully imported the version from Windows 10 1709 or earlier it could work. Windows 10 1709 and earlier seems to allow both browsers to co exist.
yes, it is! after performing this process, just run the Microsoft Edge installer [but NOT as an administrator]. you will be able to use both
FINNALY
I'm using a PC that was previously on 1709, now it's 22H2
Does edge on Windows 11 turn into a UWP Application? Because in my experience edge performs better on Windows 10 compared to edge's Windows 11
legacy edge IS a UWP application on both Windows 10 and 11
oh god yes i was thinking of it!!!!!
does internet explorer count as edge
no it does not, if you're speaking about EdgeHTML sort of?? because it uses a forked version of IE's engine, Trident
the one browser that chromium edge is better than.
so Edge Chromium is worse than IE 11?
or even IE 1.0, if we count different releases of a browser as different browsers?
@@starleaf-luna it was a joookeeee
@@Evie ok
Verified at only 2k subscribers?
@@samsunggalaxynote3868 could've passed the requirement, gotten verified, then people unsubscribed? not sure if RUclips takes away the verification badge at that point.
I can't reply to comments for some reason
Remeber folks, if you're watching this - you are definitely edging on windows
now add the windows 8.1 metro internet explorer
The old Edge brings back nostalgia, despite being worse than the new edge
It's not entirely worse has it was lightweight and had no bloat like the new Chromium Edge, the problem is the the old legacy Edge is just outdated now
@alvzcizzler the old legacy edge had problems with loading sites, too many sites were optimized for chrome
Or just delete inside the edge folder the files
doesnt exactly work like that. there is a stub in the SystemApps folder, meaning that all the files from legacy edge were removed. running the microsoft edge installer with a registry key installed does not fix this
tbh idk why everyone's like old edge, new edge better, no?
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Hi @LagLife Is there any way I can contact you? Anyone email, reddit account, Facebook, something?
@mrfoxesite > facebook is for boomers
thank you for the insightful commentary