I've listened to the experts for over 30 years, (I'm 55) stayed safe- and have horrible ROM! Super tight; I'm starting these back up, bc I need them to increase my range of motion. Thx mike for that info
Have always loved this move... for over 20 years now. At 58, it still comprises the core of my shoulder routine... do this (or any exercise) YOUR right way, and you'll do it forever injury free! Thanks again, Mike!
I have been training behind the neck presses for over 30 years. I am 45 years old now. The barbell should be brought down so deep that it touches the neck. Train the shoulders not the triceps.
It’s awesome when you can get body and mind as one, There is nothing like working a muscle with total 100% control and everything comes together. It’s not about just moving weight. There’s a connection that takes years to develop, Your videos are so authentic.
I've had shoulder issues for years now and started introducing these into my rehab. 100 % they work. They get you strong where your shoulder is super weak. You don't need to crush the weight but you need to strengthen in that position.
The mobility i gained from these is crazy bruh my grandpa at 76yrs old still does them....he was the one that introduced me since he use to compete in small shows back in the 70's
I'm amazed that Mike "Titan" O'Hearn has a RUclips channel. The only time I've ever seen him was on American Gladiators. As soon as I saw Mike on TV for the first time I thought to myself like: "Damn, that guy is pumped. I wanna be as big as him". And I've been working out ever since
the idea of focusing on the warmup , happening in between sets has changed the way i look at anything athletic now days. Its not just important, its critical. Proper warm up is everything, thanks for that Mike!
It's an exercise that should only be done by those with out any mobility issues. It's an advanced exercise. If it doesn't feel right don't do it. Go Team Titan.
Guys, if your shoulder mobility sucks, or you feel so much discomfort while at it. Avoid it. If you force it just because you watch videos like this, then it’s gonna do you more bad than good and you will end up regretting your decision to force yourself into doing it. Mike is an experienced/advanced body builder and you should be wise enough not to engage yourself with everything you see him do. All the best to all of us in our fitness and wellness journey.
My shoulders are knackered after years of weights, and the onset of old age. I can no longer do standing press, dumbbell press, lateral raise because on intense pain, but I can still do this exercise with a lot of weight, and totally pain free.
I love it, got away from it because everyone told me it was bad, and ever since I started doing them again I have gained more mobility and less pain in recovery
Literally my favorite workout ever, I hurt my shoulder so I try a lot to build support so when I gain flexibility n the strength I could really put weight behind my neck without my shoulder popping and cracking
Finally Mike uses the same in behind neck as i used to in my prime 35 years ago... His inclines smoke mine...my best was 6 with 315 seated ...i did not go that low though ...just down to ears for me...
I’m about to be 52 but I’m still going strong like you fellas , working and some gym time each day and pray we all stay healthy and our arthritis stays away . I can’t believe I’m about to be 52 , never married , no kids . A couple good relationships I should have stayed with but no regrets. I just like being pumped and looking halfway decent and being able to be physical enough to remodel homes . It’s harder for me to keep the muscle on when I get really busy from now until august but that kind of the fun of it right ? Sometimes we re lean , sometimes we’re shredded to the bone and sometimes we’re carrying some weight because it feels right for a time then we get tired of it and diet down and use cardio to just to get an ounce of satisfaction . I still can’t believe 52 is coming
Me and my brother used to do this all the time. I think it was Mike Rashid and Iron Addicts gang that got me doing these. I would press so much heavier on BTH than regular military. I never knew it was frowned upon until recently. I never ever had issues for the 5 years I’ve been using it. It’s the best shoulder exercise for me.
I love behind the neck presses! So funny how Mike calls BS on all the iron graveyard myths. Keep it up, you guys are the last of the old-school lifters and proof that you can be in the prime of your lives after 30,40, check it out after 50!?! Talk about some genetic superheroes!!! Ty, love the channel
I've always done behind the neck presses, its helped shaped the dealts fully, and i always get a rear delt pump doing them. I prefer them standing though, same as my military presses
BTN Presses could really be a useful tool in treating shoulder mobility issues, rotator cuff pains or other existing impingements. The trick is not go heavy and stick with the tempo. The anatomy approach : The stronger models, the standard models. While yes it’s true that you are capable of pushing more in the scapular plane, the function of shoulders isn’t just about movements within the scapular plane. Shoulders being a ball socket joint actually allow you a 3 dimensional plane to work across. The scapular plane is a stronger model however to be able to push above your neck and behind it are as much a standard requirement. You must not go as heavy on these however compared to standard scapular plane presses unless you’ve been training for atleast a year. BTN presses could also help address any issues you may be having with your rhomboids, traps and the major chunk of your upper back. It’s because these muscle groups together actually provide you the firm core to push from when you have entered the behind the neck plane. Yes it’s not normal for the human body, yet it must be able to work along. A small perk : BTN works your upper chest too 🤭Train safely.
I always get so much backlash when I bring up the behind head press. Everyone always says “I’m a CPT and I’m telling you it is bad for you, and your going to end up with painful shoulders” I have never once felt pain in my shoulders doing this movement. I actually have an extremely good connection with the rear delts! I do it just like you teach. Crazy that it works 😂😂 Love the vids!!
@@Smc-gm2nx I do shoulder mobility movements after my push days with bands. I feel like it helps the shoulder a lot, and it stretches the chest very well.
@@TheeYoke So I'm not thinking of the wrong kind of shoulder mobility exercises do you have a link to a video? I can press 200kg for 5 but dislocated mu shoulder a year and a half ago so worried about making it too flexible and able to pop out easier
Bro this is like machine level strength when I saw this I couldn’t believe it. That’s impossible as it is for a regular shoulder press but he does it behind the neck. I don’t understand how this is even possible . Nuts
It's not a bad exercise. The major problem is that your average gym goers are so chest focused and neglect their upper back strength and shoulder mobility/stabilization to the point where they're very disproportionate and this exercise will accentuate their imbalance. The other reason is because you can overload on the exercise without realizing you're hurting yourself until you discover you can barely move your arm the next day. A proper progression in increasing the weight is necessary if you've never done it before.
@@jarrodsmith4019 Can't really say It's an exercise issue when it's only due to people's poor workout habits or routines that's an issue. Every exercise is dangerous if you have no idea what you're doing. I see people doing dumbbell RDLs when their backs look like a fucking McDonald's arch but I'm not going to call it dangerous because people don't take the time to know what they're doing.
@@bryanholzer2782 kneesovertoes guy actually has a very interesting video on doing RDLs with a rounded back. Not for bodybuilding purposes, but it does serve an excellent purpose.
As long as you don't go stupid with the weight and control the bar throughout the whole ROM then you'll build a very long lasting relationship with this exercise, they used to do it in the Golden Age for a reason
I remember back in like 97'/98' Mike was competing against everybody seemingly! Dorian Yates, Flex Wheeler, Nassar Elsabonte' Ronnie Coleman, Craig Titus! Mike was reportedly becoming a vegetarian that year and was looking like a light 250. I'm seriously glad you're not dead at 50! True motivation, brother!
So many young people are afraid to do this and all my friends say its bad for you. If mike o Hearn can do it then the kids my age can be doing it too. I love this movement
@@MikeOHearnTitan True that mike, I started serious lifting around 16 and now I’m 20, if I remember correctly I’m pretty sure you were the first person I watched on RUclips about bodybuilding and lifting, I know your not an actual bodybuilder and you lift for longevity which is obvious but 4 years later I’ve stuck with your program and philosophy’s and I will continue to do that as long as I lift. Thank you for all the great information and positivity 👍🏽
Just curious, but no way the guy in the black hat has real traps. They're over exaggerated and does not look proportional. But still very fit and great info all around.
This one is very good. Never had problem with that, just plenty bad stories from people who injured themselves doing it without warm up or too much weight at the beginning.
Yes, Press From Behind The Neck is also an almost certain way to get a shoulder injury! Doing press behind the neck can be dangerous. That exercise besides Upright Rowing, especially heavy going heavy with a barbell, can cause serious injury to the shoulder joints. I should know because I've got one from first performing press behind the neck; it's a risky multi-joint exercise. Maybe one of the very few risky exercises; almost all exercises are safe, but not press behind the neck. Overhead pressing is good, and productive. It is much safer to do press from in front of the neck (in italics); regular standing presses with dumbbells, or barbell. There is a natural path for the weight to travel as you press overhead, and descend the dumbbell, or barbell. If not immediate, then eventually performing presses behind the neck can get you injured; and when you do your mental state is going to suffer, not just your capability for function, and strength. And mass.
I hear that often.. But most work out for a few years then off for a few years, work out for a few months then off for 3 years. That doesn't mean you been working out for 10 years.
@@jaijason8150 your definitely right about that but for me I started at 13 and now I’m 50 Iv been consistent except for the first year of covid I had to result to doing Iron Wolf calisthenics workouts till the gym opened back up.
@@jaijason8150 This is very true. I'm glad to say I've been pretty consistent, aside from a couple of times when I got injured playing hockey and couldn't even walk.
I’m gonna start implementing these again😳…whenever I do front military presses, my front delt gets compromised too much. Behind the neck, I get a more overall shoulder pump.
Really good information! I think I applied these same basic principles to the barbell bench press and particularly a wider grip barbell bench press. I am 55 now and competed in drug free powerlifting (ADFPA) from 1987-1991. I didn't train for years but started training again for health in my early 40s. All I did was dumbbells for years because of mobility, range of motion, shoulders, etc After covid I started getting a home gym and more serious. I began experimenting with a barbell and it's bench variations using only the bar. I couldn't touch the bar to my chest at first but I kept practicing and slowly adding weight. I hear all these people say not to bench too wide because it's bad on the shoulders but I am benching wide just fine at 55 with no problems after benching really heavy for years as a young man. Mind you I couldn't get the bar to my chest when I began. I apply the same principles you guys were explaining in these video and now I may start overhead pressing too.
behind the neck is great if you have no shoulder issues..i use to do them but now days i simply cant from the pain.BUT "not good for you?"...WRONG..do with caution like all movements..
All I say is be careful....look at these guys compared to us normals...I stopped doing behind the neck presses and my neck and shoulder issues and or injuries stopped after a few months....after years of behind presses....love ya Mike! I guess everything is subjective....
I think people say it's bad because people bring it right down to the neck and if they go to heavy you can drop it on your spine I use Smith machine and use the stoppers
I've been doing so much youtubing for behind the neck. there is so much controversy I simply need more accessory exercises to help my front strict press. I have been stuck on a 230 lb 1RM for 2 months. I really want to hit a 275 OHP by the end of the year. Been doing Bradford presses... but now I'm considering adding simply behind the neck presses to help out too. but there is so much controversy around it
whenever i do this movement for either strength or muscle building i always stop at the base of my skull or just a little down i never go to the base of my neck bc ive fucked my shoulder up doing that before also like Mike stated in the video.
Ever since I started doing this I’ve GAINED mobility in my shoulders. I love this one!
That's funny 😂
Bullshit. This looks like half a week out of the gym cause neck tightness.
Everyone knows you should do mobility work on your shoulders with 100kg 😂👍
it's sick it's piss
Yes only this exercise can exhaust all the three heads of the shoulders at the same time if done correctly
I've listened to the experts for over 30 years, (I'm 55) stayed safe- and have horrible ROM! Super tight; I'm starting these back up, bc I need them to increase my range of motion. Thx mike for that info
Have always loved this move... for over 20 years now. At 58, it still comprises the core of my shoulder routine... do this (or any exercise) YOUR right way, and you'll do it forever injury free! Thanks again, Mike!
I'm 55 and need to incorporate that!....carefully
At 59 I was doing these occasionally. I’m now going to do it more often. Didn’t realize how important they are. Thxs for the feedback Gents.
My surgeon that did both of my shoulders told me never do behind the neck presses
I have been training behind the neck presses for over 30 years. I am 45 years old now. The barbell should be brought down so deep that it touches the neck. Train the shoulders not the triceps.
@@ryangulley1082 surgeons don't study exercise science or biomechanics.
Such a classic old school movement that’s forgotten and hated on too much. I love this exercise I get insane pumps from it
Because it’s shows who’s really strong
It’s awesome when you can get body and mind as one, There is nothing like working a muscle with total 100% control and everything comes together. It’s not about just moving weight. There’s a connection that takes years to develop, Your videos are so authentic.
nice way to put it. being in the zone.
I've had shoulder issues for years now and started introducing these into my rehab. 100 % they work. They get you strong where your shoulder is super weak. You don't need to crush the weight but you need to strengthen in that position.
The mobility i gained from these is crazy bruh my grandpa at 76yrs old still does them....he was the one that introduced me since he use to compete in small shows back in the 70's
Behind the neck made my shoulders super massive and helped me with mobility! I don't even do in front!
I'm amazed that Mike "Titan" O'Hearn has a RUclips channel. The only time I've ever seen him was on American Gladiators. As soon as I saw Mike on TV for the first time I thought to myself like: "Damn, that guy is pumped. I wanna be as big as him". And I've been working out ever since
love it
I love how good Mike is at boosting his own ego
The arrogance level with this group is off the charts.
They make me sick because they remind me of me.
Lmao has himself recorded saying he's the best fake natty of all time ... then has it playing on non stop repeat!
@@tylercunningham4311 why u say that?
the idea of focusing on the warmup , happening in between sets has changed the way i look at anything athletic now days. Its not just important, its critical. Proper warm up is everything, thanks for that Mike!
It's an exercise that should only be done by those with out any mobility issues. It's an advanced exercise. If it doesn't feel right don't do it. Go Team Titan.
100%
Exactly 👍🏼
or use the bar but just the bar to get stability down over time. focus on the movement and how it feels and adjust from there if needed.
Really good comment this is so true .
What a terrible suggestion.
this exercise has helped me so much. i feel this will help you a lot especially if you have rounded shoulders and posture to correct
Avoiding a movement never works. If it hurts, you are using to much weight.
The bald dude has fake traps. Sad when you gotta use synthol for traps
Guys, if your shoulder mobility sucks, or you feel so much discomfort while at it. Avoid it. If you force it just because you watch videos like this, then it’s gonna do you more bad than good and you will end up regretting your decision to force yourself into doing it. Mike is an experienced/advanced body builder and you should be wise enough not to engage yourself with everything you see him do.
All the best to all of us in our fitness and wellness journey.
My shoulders are knackered after years of weights, and the onset of old age. I can no longer do standing press, dumbbell press, lateral raise because on intense pain, but I can still do this exercise with a lot of weight, and totally pain free.
That guys traps look like there’s a little synthol in there
I Iove learning new moves that Mike teaches that can help me in the gym when I'm stuck, Thank again Titan.
I love it, got away from it because everyone told me it was bad, and ever since I started doing them again I have gained more mobility and less pain in recovery
its always someone broken and out of shape with the advice lol
Mike otren
I'm pumped to see team titan killing it. Really motivating. My dirty 30 is this year and I wont ever slow down
I'm 55 and more muscular than at any time in my life. it gets better :)
Literally my favorite workout ever, I hurt my shoulder so I try a lot to build support so when I gain flexibility n the strength I could really put weight behind my neck without my shoulder popping and cracking
A orm behind the neck, you do that too?
Very few contractions in your anterior Delt like a behind the neck press. Unbelievable mass builder and way to isolate the front Delt.
Finally Mike uses the same in behind neck as i used to in my prime 35 years ago... His inclines smoke mine...my best was 6 with 315 seated ...i did not go that low though ...just down to ears for me...
I’m about to be 52 but I’m still going strong like you fellas , working and some gym time each day and pray we all stay healthy and our arthritis stays away . I can’t believe I’m about to be 52 , never married , no kids . A couple good relationships I should have stayed with but no regrets. I just like being pumped and looking halfway decent and being able to be physical enough to remodel homes . It’s harder for me to keep the muscle on when I get really busy from now until august but that kind of the fun of it right ? Sometimes we re lean , sometimes we’re shredded to the bone and sometimes we’re carrying some weight because it feels right for a time then we get tired of it and diet down and use cardio to just to get an ounce of satisfaction . I still can’t believe 52 is coming
I ve always done behind the neck and listen to what my body tells me and it feels right and strong to do it both ways for me .
Pure Gold. Thank You Mike and Jon.
Behind the neck presses are the best .I do free weight barbell and smith machine behind neck presses
Mike rocking the Michael Myers cut.
Me and my brother used to do this all the time. I think it was Mike Rashid and Iron Addicts gang that got me doing these. I would press so much heavier on BTH than regular military. I never knew it was frowned upon until recently. I never ever had issues for the 5 years I’ve been using it. It’s the best shoulder exercise for me.
Mo is a savage! Mad love and respect to Mrs Titan! Cheers from Socal USA!
Steadfast attitude and knowledge. Adding this to my shoulder workouts. I appreciate your positivity in your videos. Gives me motivation.
same. I never do these. Always thought it was bad...but if done right....
@@niltomega2978 to be honest I’ve got a few workouts with these. Feels great!
I love behind the neck presses! So funny how Mike calls BS on all the iron graveyard myths. Keep it up, you guys are the last of the old-school lifters and proof that you can be in the prime of your lives after 30,40, check it out after 50!?!
Talk about some genetic superheroes!!! Ty, love the channel
Well said bro
Tren and Test help maintain peak performance after 40.
@@alexmcday1801 what are u talking about?! he's natty you know 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Gary Strydom used to be a big fan of these as well.
Bold guy has more oil in the traps and shoulders than a 7.3 powerstroke
🤣🤣🤣 lui marco would be proud
He has a target on his back with oil prices soaring coz of the war 😭
His traps look horrible.
Amazing strength and range of motion Mike.Its is inspiring how you always stay on top of your game for over 40 years.
👆huge muscle building supps 👆These dudes make every work out enjoyable, next level shoulder exercises
Right!
LoL! Synthol guy is back! I mean traps and shoulders lol
4:21 gotta love the Titan having fun
thanks for the advice mike! when i want to check how to correctly execute a lift, youre my first go to
I've always done behind the neck presses, its helped shaped the dealts fully, and i always get a rear delt pump doing them. I prefer them standing though, same as my military presses
I was just about to ask if you can do them standing. I love the standing barbell press 👍
@@joeyD213 I feel it works the core and upper back better as well, I squeezed my glutes to maintain power throughout the movement
3 plates on that shit is crazy. DAMN he is strong
BTN Presses could really be a useful tool in treating shoulder mobility issues, rotator cuff pains or other existing impingements. The trick is not go heavy and stick with the tempo.
The anatomy approach : The stronger models, the standard models. While yes it’s true that you are capable of pushing more in the scapular plane, the function of shoulders isn’t just about movements within the scapular plane. Shoulders being a ball socket joint actually allow you a 3 dimensional plane to work across.
The scapular plane is a stronger model however to be able to push above your neck and behind it are as much a standard requirement. You must not go as heavy on these however compared to standard scapular plane presses unless you’ve been training for atleast a year.
BTN presses could also help address any issues you may be having with your rhomboids, traps and the major chunk of your upper back. It’s because these muscle groups together actually provide you the firm core to push from when you have entered the behind the neck plane.
Yes it’s not normal for the human body, yet it must be able to work along.
A small perk : BTN works your upper chest too 🤭Train safely.
Dudes traps and shoulders are out of this world 🌎. Wow!
Nothing builds mass like classic behind the neck presses
This and face pulls, the only thing you need for 3D delts, both hit very well two heads of the delts at the same time
I always get so much backlash when I bring up the behind head press. Everyone always says “I’m a CPT and I’m telling you it is bad for you, and your going to end up with painful shoulders” I have never once felt pain in my shoulders doing this movement. I actually have an extremely good connection with the rear delts! I do it just like you teach. Crazy that it works 😂😂 Love the vids!!
its sad a lot of trainers really need trainers these days
rear delts only stabilize the movement and do not contribute to the pushing part, other then that do what works for you!
Does it cause shoulder impingement?
My mobility is so bad I can't even reach the bar for squats
@@Smc-gm2nx I do shoulder mobility movements after my push days with bands. I feel like it helps the shoulder a lot, and it stretches the chest very well.
@@TheeYoke
So I'm not thinking of the wrong kind of shoulder mobility exercises do you have a link to a video? I can press 200kg for 5 but dislocated mu shoulder a year and a half ago so worried about making it too flexible and able to pop out easier
Man, I just did a video hittin behind the head PRESS !! THEY AIN'T READY FOR IT MIKE!! GOOD HIT !
get it champ
been doin PBN for 30+ years , never a problem
Great stuff as usual. I wonder if the side delt SEO interferes at all with Jon Andersen’s behind-the-neck presses.
Bro this is like machine level strength when I saw this I couldn’t believe it. That’s impossible as it is for a regular shoulder press but he does it behind the neck. I don’t understand how this is even possible . Nuts
So many trainers in gyms telling people NOT to do this exercise. It's unreal. Probably the best exercise for your shoulders along with Lu raises.
Looking good Mike! Mona looking strong, too!
Uh, no comment on synthol trap guy 😖
I'm surprised I had to look so long for this comment
I thought I was the only one
I do them on a Smith machine usually after laterals to really smash the medial head
Holy shit on a whole different level! 💪 years of dedication and discipline right there!
So many trainers advise against doing the behind the neck training as it compromises the shoulder, but I suppose if it works for you keep doing it.
It's not a bad exercise. The major problem is that your average gym goers are so chest focused and neglect their upper back strength and shoulder mobility/stabilization to the point where they're very disproportionate and this exercise will accentuate their imbalance. The other reason is because you can overload on the exercise without realizing you're hurting yourself until you discover you can barely move your arm the next day. A proper progression in increasing the weight is necessary if you've never done it before.
@@bryanholzer2782 so you're saying it's dangerous?
@@jarrodsmith4019 Can't really say It's an exercise issue when it's only due to people's poor workout habits or routines that's an issue. Every exercise is dangerous if you have no idea what you're doing. I see people doing dumbbell RDLs when their backs look like a fucking McDonald's arch but I'm not going to call it dangerous because people don't take the time to know what they're doing.
@@bryanholzer2782 kneesovertoes guy actually has a very interesting video on doing RDLs with a rounded back. Not for bodybuilding purposes, but it does serve an excellent purpose.
@@mr.doctorcaptain1124 it's call jefferson curl, and not the same as romanian
Super shoulders exercise!Super coaching!👏👏👏
As long as you don't go stupid with the weight and control the bar throughout the whole ROM then you'll build a very long lasting relationship with this exercise, they used to do it in the Golden Age for a reason
The best exercise for shoulders.
Thanks Mike!
I remember back in like 97'/98' Mike was competing against everybody seemingly! Dorian Yates, Flex Wheeler, Nassar Elsabonte' Ronnie Coleman, Craig Titus! Mike was reportedly becoming a vegetarian that year and was looking like a light 250. I'm seriously glad you're not dead at 50! True motivation, brother!
There’s no way I can’t comment when I watch Michael O’Hearn do that lift this man is superhuman God bless him totally amazed
Honestly, this guy must never be impressed by anything...he's shrugging all day
Am I the only one that can't stop noticing those Jumbo Jets on each side of Homeboy's Neck??
Mike doing six plate
Me struggling with the bar 😂
Mike is the beast. Respect sir🙏
I like feeling the burn when I do this 💪
Burns like no other shoulder exercise.
Its good for flexibility and joint for shoulder too . 🔥
Easy doing for reps, haven't tried this to failure yet, but I think this could isolate the shoulders from front delts.
Love this exercise. Only benefits behind the neck of you do it right and safe.
Holly shit....
I can't believe O"Hearn did 4 deep full reps with 315 behind the neck at 53yrs of age.
AWESOME
Titan knowledge+Sticking with it=Saved Shoulders
BTNs are life. Been doing them for 12 years and love every bit of it. Btw Mike definitely has HGH face just like Rich Piana.
I watch listen and learn.
So many young people are afraid to do this and all my friends say its bad for you. If mike o Hearn can do it then the kids my age can be doing it too. I love this movement
and all those people wont be in the game as long as us
@@MikeOHearnTitan True that mike, I started serious lifting around 16 and now I’m 20, if I remember correctly I’m pretty sure you were the first person I watched on RUclips about bodybuilding and lifting, I know your not an actual bodybuilder and you lift for longevity which is obvious but 4 years later I’ve stuck with your program and philosophy’s and I will continue to do that as long as I lift. Thank you for all the great information and positivity 👍🏽
@@MikeOHearnTitan hi ,from Australia, are the plates you using in pounds or kilogram ? we use kilograms.
another gem bro
Just curious, but no way the guy in the black hat has real traps. They're over exaggerated and does not look proportional. But still very fit and great info all around.
.. on that oil regimen..
This one is very good. Never had problem with that, just plenty bad stories from people who injured themselves doing it without warm up or too much weight at the beginning.
Yes, Press From Behind The Neck is also an almost certain way to get a shoulder injury! Doing press behind the neck can be dangerous. That exercise besides Upright Rowing, especially heavy going heavy with a barbell, can cause serious injury to the shoulder joints. I should know because I've got one from first performing press behind the neck; it's a risky multi-joint exercise. Maybe one of the very few risky exercises; almost all exercises are safe, but not press behind the neck.
Overhead pressing is good, and productive. It is much safer to do press from in front of the neck (in italics); regular standing presses with dumbbells, or barbell. There is a natural path for the weight to travel as you press overhead, and descend the dumbbell, or barbell. If not immediate, then eventually performing presses behind the neck can get you injured; and when you do your mental state is going to suffer, not just your capability for function, and strength. And mass.
Totally agree with behind the shoulders. I go way lighter but I guess eight is all relative.
2:14 that was tough 😱😱
That’s literally where I paused the video . This has to be like top ten in the world for strength that’s just crazy weight
I've been lifting 26 years and still learn so much from your videos Mike. I love it.
Yep me too and Iv been at it since 1985
I hear that often.. But most work out for a few years then off for a few years, work out for a few months then off for 3 years. That doesn't mean you been working out for 10 years.
@@jaijason8150 your definitely right about that but for me I started at 13 and now I’m 50 Iv been consistent except for the first year of covid I had to result to doing Iron Wolf calisthenics workouts till the gym opened back up.
@@jaijason8150 This is very true. I'm glad to say I've been pretty consistent, aside from a couple of times when I got injured playing hockey and couldn't even walk.
Natural bodybuilding, papi 💪🏻🌍😎
I’m gonna start implementing these again😳…whenever I do front military presses, my front delt gets compromised too much. Behind the neck, I get a more overall shoulder pump.
Really good information!
I think I applied these same basic principles to the barbell bench press and particularly a wider grip barbell bench press.
I am 55 now and competed in drug free powerlifting (ADFPA) from 1987-1991.
I didn't train for years but started training again for health in my early 40s.
All I did was dumbbells for years because of mobility, range of motion, shoulders, etc
After covid I started getting a home gym and more serious.
I began experimenting with a barbell and it's bench variations using only the bar.
I couldn't touch the bar to my chest at first but I kept practicing and slowly adding weight.
I hear all these people say not to bench too wide because it's bad on the shoulders but I am benching wide just fine at 55 with no problems after benching really heavy for years as a young man.
Mind you I couldn't get the bar to my chest when I began.
I apply the same principles you guys were explaining in these video and now I may start overhead pressing too.
Behind the neck is the best shoulder exercise,I combine behind and front shoulder exercise,but behind is easier for me than front shoulder exercise.
Great shoulder workout mike
mikes hydraulics, awesome , time to get my head in the game
Shoulder press gave me Mobility issues. Snapped me up, never been pain free since.
I do these every now and then but i feel comfortable going heavy with doing them in the front
The legend itself
behind the neck is great if you have no shoulder issues..i use to do them but now days i simply cant from the pain.BUT "not good for you?"...WRONG..do with caution like all movements..
Every time I see the weights when Mike O'Hearn is benching I say holly shi** :D I can do only 70% of what he is benching.
Omg Three plates behind the neck insane just literally insane
Always use the Smith machine for shoulder press now,front and rear,find I'm less prone to injury but still get decent results
I can hear Lui Marco rn talking about this guys oil in his shoulders 🤣🤣🤣🤣, 3cc's Baby please. Still strong tho.
Mike is great!!!
All I say is be careful....look at these guys compared to us normals...I stopped doing behind the neck presses and my neck and shoulder issues and or injuries stopped after a few months....after years of behind presses....love ya Mike! I guess everything is subjective....
I think people say it's bad because people bring it right down to the neck and if they go to heavy you can drop it on your spine I use Smith machine and use the stoppers
I've been doing so much youtubing for behind the neck. there is so much controversy
I simply need more accessory exercises to help my front strict press. I have been stuck on a 230 lb 1RM for 2 months. I really want to hit a 275 OHP by the end of the year.
Been doing Bradford presses... but now I'm considering adding simply behind the neck presses to help out too. but there is so much controversy around it
I do Bradford press instead of this one and the pump I get in my rare delts is just out of this world.
whenever i do this movement for either strength or muscle building i always stop at the base of my skull or just a little down i never go to the base of my neck bc ive fucked my shoulder up doing that before also like Mike stated in the video.