Hindsight is 20/20, but yeah, considering all the crazy shit that had gone down before 9/11 you'd think some governing body would have thought about pre-emptively making that policy
Back in the late 60s and 70s there were many hijackings as airport security was in its early stages. It took 9/11 to finally get the government to pay for and provide better security at US airports. Before 9/11, Airlines had to pay for it. The DOT and FAA have been historically slow in providing adequate security at US airports.
Remember, the GSG9 did not exist until after - and because of - the Munich Olympics fiasco. Once they were up and running, it was generally a good idea NOT to provoke them...
My head understands the reasons for stopping flights with the 747s, the A380s and the Concorde. But my heart cries for the loss of those majestic planes.
My brother thinks I'm weird because I love flying commercially. I don't care where we're going as long as I get to fly somewhere. When we're taking off I like to just close my eyes and feel the engines, the woosh of air over the wings and the flaps generating the extra lift and can sense all of the different mechanisms going on.
Today marks the morbid 20th anniversary of the Linate Airport disaster when a McDonnell Douglas MD 87 collided with a Cessna CJ2 on the runway in severe fog conditions in Milan Italy on October 8th 2001. All 114 people on both aircraft and 4 on the ground perished in the accident there were no survivors. ✈
I'm glad to hear no-one was harmed on this particular fight. I'm surprised the hijackers actually allowed them to divert to an alternative airstrip, expected them to get gunned down right there!
allec, since discovering your videos, i have started casually dropping into conversation that i'm a very heavy sleeper and can snooze through literally any turbulence, chaos, etc. on a plane journey. that way if i ever die in a plane crash like some of the ones you've covered, my loved ones will be able to tell themselves with reasonable assurance that i slept through the whole thing and died without pain or fear. i am so excited for you and your flight school journey. godspeed and thank you for putting out such high-quality and gripping content for us!
Nice video, Allec. No matter the cause, hijackings are tantamount to piracy, and the hijackers should have been shot as soon as everyone was released. In better times, they would have been...
Sorry, a bit off-topic but wow those old liveries with the silver on the bottom, absolutely classic and beautiful, with they'd come into fashion again!
Hijackings and hostages are all handled differently now. The airlines have figured out each passenger will pay their own ransom to the airlined and suffer in quiet discomfort just to get from point A to point B.
It's so unusual to see a hijacking that turned out peacefully. How they got all those explosive materials aboard the plane undetected is astounding to me, and they were reasonable terrorists and turned themselves in and weren't charged because they paid a million dollars to the authorities. No one was hurt! Most astounding! I'm sure they must have made a movie out of this. Someone might be tempted to say that crime pays, but the fruits of their crime and what was done with the rest of the ransom money was murderous and evil.
I'll begin by stating that I'm assuming that the contents of this video were meant to be truthful and factually accurate. So, with that premise in mind and, although your comments are already a year old, I still feel as if I might suggest that you appear to have made some erroneous assumptions. First of all, it was just, "according to Israel" that the hijackers paid 1 million to the South Yemeni authorities to grant their release. Would you consider that South Yemeni might possibly have been sympathetic to the hijackers, in regards to their political motives? Or, maybe you're too quick to trust the word of Israel, particularly in light of the fact that the Israeli government has been at odds with the PFLP , for many decades, as it's been continually annexing/stealing land granted to the Palestinian people following WWII while, at the some time, committing numerous other human rights violations against the Palestinian people in Gaza and the West Bank? Secondly, the German publication, Der Spiegel, simply "speculated" that the remaining 4 million dollars was used to fund the Lod Airport massacre in 1972. I might consider that Der Spiegel's motive was to connect the hijackers to a totally different event, which had nothing to do with the hijacking, but involved numerous random killings, which certainly didn't appear to align with the political motives of the hijackers. "Speculations" should never be construed as statements of fact. The hijackers might have a totally different account as to how the remaining 4 million was spent. I think the fact that the hijackers chose to not hurt or kill anyone is very significant, in that it speaks volumes as to what appears to have been their primary motive. They showed the world that a nation, or group of nations, that decide to unilaterally subjugate another nation or ethnic race of people, may eventually suffer the consequences, if no other peaceful options have proven to be available to those who are suffering. Finally, I'd like to add one further comment that I believe is very appropriate to this hijacking, even though there's 29 years of separation between the two events. On September 11, 2001 we suffered the most heinous crime that's ever been perpetrated on American soil. It involved the hijacking of not one, but four commercial airliners. Although there were many debatable aspects of the overall puzzle, surrounding the events of 9/11, that appear to have been purposely ignored and/or concealed, which were never brought into a more legitimate, transparent focus, nevertheless, wasn't that event, in one major way, very similar to this hijacking in 1972? Both were a "wake up" moment for the entire world to see and realize that, even powerfully strong nations, such as the U.S., will always have an "Achilles Heel"?
While everybody knows the sad story of he Landshut, I've never heard anything about the Baden Württemberg before. But it explains pretty well why other criminals thought, that hijacking another Lufthansa palne might be a nice idea. Thanks for your videos, you do a great job!
I know that by saying this it could possibly be a death sentence to innocent people but under NO circumstances should hijackers demands b met. For those in this comment section saying no one was hurt, I’d say that’s a ignorant statement at the least. They took the money to help plan another assault that killed people. And let’s forget that people were killed. To me the moment a person loses their sense of security or their sense of “family protector” , then that scenario is a horrible one , without the loss of life. The people that live through these events sometimes never recover. And nobody is ever the same after this type of event. The indirect damage is astronomical. Not 1 demand by any hijacker should ever be met. Ever. Yes if I’m on that hijacked plane yes I feel the same and even more so then. If people know in advance that no matter ho much violence you threaten or act out you will not get any demands met, it’ll stop damn near all of the hijackings. The ones it want stop are the ones that are either just off their rockers or are doing this as some suicide mission for (religion, revenge, insurance for family,etc...) and don’t want money or anything else in exchange. They just want carnage for the hell of it which is an entire different can of worms compared to organizations wanting funding to continue to do this repeatedly.
@J M I never said I would or wouldn’t do anything if I were in that situation. That wasn’t the topic I was making an opinion about. The topic was and is negotiating with terrorist. And besides Who knows how one will act under extreme circumstances. I said under NO circumstances can you negotiate with any terroristic demands. PERIOD. Now I DO know this how certain people (you) will and do act under circumstances such as ridiculing someone else’s OPINION that you disagree with. That’s what you call ridiculous hiding behind my keyboard while I run my pie hole about some strangers OPINION bravado. I like leaving statements about my ideas thoughts and beliefs and reading others opinions. This is how we learn better ways. People that don’t leave a idea or statement about the topic being discussed and instead make fun of others OPINIONS bring absolutely nothing to the table Thanks for showing us your cards
Even though TFC has better editing and quality than this, this channel does writes more info on certain accidents and incidents so I don’t have to search it in the internet. TFC does put more effort on editing and reenactments but less info while this does put effort in info and proper presentation. Also TFC has never done a 9/11 disasters.
I’m a Baby Boomer, so I remember the era of hijackings well. After 9/11, flying is a major hassle. In the not-too-distant future, the FA will confront the passenger with the butt of a gun sticking out of his shirt pocket. But that’s not her concern. “Sir, I need you to show proof of vaccination immediately!”🙄 Changing the subject just a bit, I really, really, REALLY miss the Queen of the Skies.
Give the same attention to flight school as you have to these AMAZINGish videos and you could be the next Mentour, 74 Gear, Dutch Pilot Girl (maybe not the last!) and hopefully expand the channel. One V small critique - work on the English grammar, it translates to worldwide use except in America!!!!!!! Ho Ho, all the best, keep the blue side UP!!!!
It's hard to believe that Germany is the same country that fought in WW2. They and their people are very weak and soft since the war. The Russians broke what spirit that they had.
My 7 year old refuses to go to bed until he sees this every Thursday night, but now that he understands the hijacking concept he now says he may not become a pilot......and he's leaving AJI to fly on his behalf 🤣🤣🤣. What 7 year old says that?!
Ever hear of winning the battle, but losing the war? Appeasing the aggressor _never works._ The more you negotiate with terrorists, the more terrorism you'll negotiate.
Hollywood will never make a movie about this, because the hijackers won. I mean, a Quentin Tarantino or Ocean's Eleven style of movie would sound like an utterly disrespectful way of filming this one, but considering nobody got hurt... although the funds were used later for terrible deeds.
Wars, conflicts, terrorism are legal ways to profit for the big and wealthy....you are nothing but a bag of meat to them....we truly still live in a jungle mindset
Who would have thought that the old fashioned pay-us-cash-and-fly-us-to-Havana hijacking would seem like the good old days? Good video, as always.
Your comment made me laugh! Yeah, those were the days...
I still find it incredible that it wasn't until after 9/11 that cockpits were properly secured against terrorists and random maniacs.
Random maniacs knew their place back then. In a bar..
A secured cockpit wouldn't have helped much if the hijackers managed to get explosives on board.
Hindsight is 20/20, but yeah, considering all the crazy shit that had gone down before 9/11 you'd think some governing body would have thought about pre-emptively making that policy
Back in the late 60s and 70s there were many hijackings as airport security was in its early stages. It took 9/11 to finally get the government to pay for and provide better security at US airports. Before 9/11, Airlines had to pay for it. The DOT and FAA have been historically slow in providing adequate security at US airports.
Yeah it’s crazy. Imagine after the first crash if they implemented this then how many lives would have been saved
Remember, the GSG9 did not exist until after - and because of - the Munich Olympics fiasco. Once they were up and running, it was generally a good idea NOT to provoke them...
The 747 getting scrapped is the saddest thing for any aviation authority and groups. It is literally the most painful thing as an Avgeek.
A lot more tragic than vintage cars being smashed for recycle.
@@Star737_yt, true :(
My head understands the reasons for stopping flights with the 747s, the A380s and the Concorde. But my heart cries for the loss of those majestic planes.
My brother thinks I'm weird because I love flying commercially. I don't care where we're going as long as I get to fly somewhere. When we're taking off I like to just close my eyes and feel the engines, the woosh of air over the wings and the flaps generating the extra lift and can sense all of the different mechanisms going on.
@@austindarrenor, never stop thinking about Aviation. Love Aviation. Even some of my friends think that I am weird.
Thank you for all of the work you've done creating these videos and best of luck in flight school!
Of course in those days you were always told to follow the hijackers’ demands.
Today marks the morbid 20th anniversary of the Linate Airport disaster when a McDonnell Douglas MD 87 collided with a Cessna CJ2 on the runway in severe fog conditions in Milan Italy on October 8th 2001. All 114 people on both aircraft and 4 on the ground perished in the accident there were no survivors. ✈
R.I.P to those people
Thanks for sharing the info.
@@Joshua_Starshard no problem 🙂
Sad reminder.
May their Souls rest in peace in Jesus name !
SAS 686 :(
I'm 69 years old and I remember all of this, time goes fast.
Damn- it was 1972
nice!
funny number
Everyone: “Very Funny Number”
Me: “Oh NOOOO!”
Remember not the best place for 69 jokes
Can't believe they got away with it. Sickening.
When it said ‘release with no criminal charges’ I was stunned
Is anyone else bothered seeing those beautiful birds scrapped like that, or is it me?
All good things come to an end
Ya I do but when it happens it breaks my little AvGeek heart.
Very true :(. I wanted to fly them too. But scrapping it is horrible
Yeah, it's sad.
Not so unless it's a rare model like CV880/990 or VC10.
Wow… Allec, I must say, these videos of yours are very well put together. I wish you best of luck in pilot school.
I'm glad to hear no-one was harmed on this particular fight. I'm surprised the hijackers actually allowed them to divert to an alternative airstrip, expected them to get gunned down right there!
In those days, hijackers didn't want to die.
@@timonsolus And couldnt fly either.
Not when they knew the host country would take a bribe
allec, since discovering your videos, i have started casually dropping into conversation that i'm a very heavy sleeper and can snooze through literally any turbulence, chaos, etc. on a plane journey. that way if i ever die in a plane crash like some of the ones you've covered, my loved ones will be able to tell themselves with reasonable assurance that i slept through the whole thing and died without pain or fear. i am so excited for you and your flight school journey. godspeed and thank you for putting out such high-quality and gripping content for us!
Nice video, Allec. No matter the cause, hijackings are tantamount to piracy, and the hijackers should have been shot as soon as everyone was released. In better times, they would have been...
Most Islamic Arab governments either actively support the terrorists or are so scared of them that they cooperate.
@@davidhoffman1278 Right. Uhn huh. :(
It was a good result that all passengers and crew were released. Too bad the hijackers couldn’t be identified to be hunted and captured or eliminated.
Sorry, a bit off-topic but wow those old liveries with the silver on the bottom, absolutely classic and beautiful, with they'd come into fashion again!
Almost 50 years ago. Wow, how some things have changed... and how some haven't.
Great video Josh. You are amazing as always! Thanks for everything you do. You make this world a better place👍
💪🇵🇭🇺🇲🇨🇿💪
We are all VERY proud of you💗
Great job Allec! I really appreciate when a different type of video is among all of the disaster recreations.
I remember the crazy hijackings of those days. Great video
Hijackings and hostages are all handled differently now. The airlines have figured out each passenger will pay their own ransom to the airlined and suffer in quiet discomfort just to get from point A to point B.
First of all Congrats to you Allec 🙋♀️
Keep it up, you are born to be a Pilot.
Greetings from F. am M. 🙏
It's so unusual to see a hijacking that turned out peacefully. How they got all those explosive materials aboard the plane undetected is astounding to me, and they were reasonable terrorists and turned themselves in and weren't charged because they paid a million dollars to the authorities. No one was hurt! Most astounding! I'm sure they must have made a movie out of this. Someone might be tempted to say that crime pays, but the fruits of their crime and what was done with the rest of the ransom money was murderous and evil.
I'll begin by stating that I'm assuming that the contents of this video were meant to be truthful and factually accurate. So, with that premise in mind and, although your comments are already a year old, I still feel as if I might suggest that you appear to have made some erroneous assumptions.
First of all, it was just, "according to Israel" that the hijackers paid 1 million to the South Yemeni authorities to grant their release. Would you consider that South Yemeni might possibly have been sympathetic to the hijackers, in regards to their political motives? Or, maybe you're too quick to trust the word of Israel, particularly in light of the fact that the Israeli government has been at odds with the PFLP , for many decades, as it's been continually annexing/stealing land granted to the Palestinian people following WWII while, at the some time, committing numerous other human rights violations against the Palestinian people in Gaza and the West Bank?
Secondly, the German publication, Der Spiegel, simply "speculated" that the remaining 4 million dollars was used to fund the Lod Airport massacre in 1972. I might consider that Der Spiegel's motive was to connect the hijackers to a totally different event, which had nothing to do with the hijacking, but involved numerous random killings, which certainly didn't appear to align with the political motives of the hijackers. "Speculations" should never be construed as statements of fact. The hijackers might have a totally different account as to how the remaining 4 million was spent.
I think the fact that the hijackers chose to not hurt or kill anyone is very significant, in that it speaks volumes as to what appears to have been their primary motive. They showed the world that a nation, or group of nations, that decide to unilaterally subjugate another nation or ethnic race of people, may eventually suffer the consequences, if no other peaceful options have proven to be available to those who are suffering.
Finally, I'd like to add one further comment that I believe is very appropriate to this hijacking, even though there's 29 years of separation between the two events.
On September 11, 2001 we suffered the most heinous crime that's ever been perpetrated on American soil. It involved the hijacking of not one, but four commercial airliners. Although there were many debatable aspects of the overall puzzle, surrounding the events of 9/11, that appear to have been purposely ignored and/or concealed, which were never brought into a more legitimate, transparent focus, nevertheless, wasn't that event, in one major way, very similar to this hijacking in 1972? Both were a "wake up" moment for the entire world to see and realize that, even powerfully strong nations, such as the U.S., will always have an "Achilles Heel"?
This is why you should never give in to terrorists
It worked
@@anonymousstormchaser for the terrorists yeah
I wonder how you would react if you had a family member on this flight? It’s easy to talk tough when you have nothing on the line.
Maybe because a Kennedy Family member was on board?
While everybody knows the sad story of he Landshut, I've never heard anything about the Baden Württemberg before. But it explains pretty well why other criminals thought, that hijacking another Lufthansa palne might be a nice idea. Thanks for your videos, you do a great job!
Alec I am absolutely in love with you! I hope you are doing well in your flight training. Great video as always!
Ive been watching you for 5 years bro. Im coming back to see u still up and running. Awesome to see!
Nice touch with the flange on the audio for the plane.
Nice work Allec💖
I know that by saying this it could possibly be a death sentence to innocent people but under NO circumstances should hijackers demands b met. For those in this comment section saying no one was hurt, I’d say that’s a ignorant statement at the least. They took the money to help plan another assault that killed people. And let’s forget that people were killed. To me the moment a person loses their sense of security or their sense of “family protector” , then that scenario is a horrible one , without the loss of life. The people that live through these events sometimes never recover. And nobody is ever the same after this type of event. The indirect damage is astronomical. Not 1 demand by any hijacker should ever be met. Ever. Yes if I’m on that hijacked plane yes I feel the same and even more so then. If people know in advance that no matter ho much violence you threaten or act out you will not get any demands met, it’ll stop damn near all of the hijackings. The ones it want stop are the ones that are either just off their rockers or are doing this as some suicide mission for (religion, revenge, insurance for family,etc...) and don’t want money or anything else in exchange. They just want carnage for the hell of it which is an entire different can of worms compared to organizations wanting funding to continue to do this repeatedly.
@J M I never said I would or wouldn’t do anything if I were in that situation. That wasn’t the topic I was making an opinion about. The topic was and is negotiating with terrorist. And besides Who knows how one will act under extreme circumstances. I said under NO circumstances can you negotiate with any terroristic demands. PERIOD. Now I DO know this how certain people (you) will and do act under circumstances such as ridiculing someone else’s OPINION that you disagree with. That’s what you call ridiculous hiding behind my keyboard while I run my pie hole about some strangers OPINION bravado. I like leaving statements about my ideas thoughts and beliefs and reading others opinions. This is how we learn better ways. People that don’t leave a idea or statement about the topic being discussed and instead make fun of others OPINIONS bring absolutely nothing to the table Thanks for showing us your cards
Flight: *has a stop in Athens*
Me: “aw shit. Here we go again.”
You have come a long way Allec have been watching your content for years now and seen it evolve whish you well with getting your flight creds
5 million US dollars in 1972 is probably like 15 million in 2021 adjusted for inflation
That ransom given so easily was used to hurt other people and sustain wanton criminals.What a human predicament .
Way more than that!
Thank you for every Thursday night
That photo of the queen in the desert on blocks was disrespectful
Very well done videos
D-ABYD is the third 747-8 for Lufthansa.
This 9 years old 747-830 made a flight today.
Even though TFC has better editing and quality than this, this channel does writes more info on certain accidents and incidents so I don’t have to search it in the internet. TFC does put more effort on editing and reenactments but less info while this does put effort in info and proper presentation. Also TFC has never done a 9/11 disasters.
Good Luck on Flight School
I’m a Baby Boomer, so I remember the era of hijackings well. After 9/11, flying is a major hassle. In the not-too-distant future, the FA will confront the passenger with the butt of a gun sticking out of his shirt pocket. But that’s not her concern. “Sir, I need you to show proof of vaccination immediately!”🙄
Changing the subject just a bit, I really, really, REALLY miss the Queen of the Skies.
@Allec: Again, not much of flying. Btw, how´s your flight lessons going? Good luck and all the best.
The sound of the 747 in the gate is beautiful
Good luck in your flight ✈ training!!
Nice Video As Always Even When you use Old Flight Sims!
So they just got away with it? 🤦🏿♂️
Oh yeah, who were the First Officer and Second Officer?
When wil you do FS2020?
Please make a video for TACA Flight 390.
If Clint Eastwood had been the “fake” pilot….
Give the same attention to flight school as you have to these AMAZINGish videos and you could be the next Mentour, 74 Gear, Dutch Pilot Girl (maybe not the last!) and hopefully expand the channel. One V small critique - work on the English grammar, it translates to worldwide use except in America!!!!!!! Ho Ho, all the best, keep the blue side UP!!!!
It's hard to believe that Germany is the same country that fought in WW2. They and their people are very weak and soft since the war. The Russians broke what spirit that they had.
No...they just wised up after losing two WWs. .
By weak and soft you mean they are no longer Nazis? 🤔
@@kingpins9 Who then?
That D-ABYD now for 747-8
Palestine and Israel have been going at it for a while now. When is enough enough?
When one side gets rid of the other side and assimilates the left overs.
@@kingpins9 vice vera
Need a modern reminder,see Ukraine.....Invade a country and people retaliate....
168 of 192 passengers are survived, 24 passengers killed
hey can you make a alitalia memorial?
what fs do you use?
I’m not Allec Joshua Ibay, but is FS2004, I hope I've helped.
Think I'd get away with doing that? That's irresponsible treatment of the terrorists! Just glad everyone's ok.
My 7 year old refuses to go to bed until he sees this every Thursday night, but now that he understands the hijacking concept he now says he may not become a pilot......and he's leaving AJI to fly on his behalf 🤣🤣🤣. What 7 year old says that?!
Back when hijacking was civilized. 🙄
Good, but too much commercials.
Sir please make a video on polish air force flight ✈️101
Big fan from India 🇮🇳🥰🥰
Do China Airlines Flight 611.
Not very glorious ...
What is 12:30 am?
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Giving In To Terrorism | Lufthansa Flight 649
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“Giving in to terrorism” is a very inappropriate title. Paying $5M is much better than letting the hijackers kill crew or passengers.
But these 5 M $ were used afterwards to kill other passengers and athletes. That's why the then German government was so heavily criticized.
Ever hear of winning the battle, but losing the war? Appeasing the aggressor _never works._ The more you negotiate with terrorists, the more terrorism you'll negotiate.
"[D]ebunked"?
Suppppp broolo
Should have let Mossad deal with them.
Hollywood will never make a movie about this, because the hijackers won.
I mean, a Quentin Tarantino or Ocean's Eleven style of movie would sound like an utterly disrespectful way of filming this one, but considering nobody got hurt...
although the funds were used later for terrible deeds.
smells like bs. have you watched september clues documentary yet??
That's why I'm proud to be an American. We do not surrender to terrorists
You're joking, right? The whole government of US surrendered to BLM and antifa scum.
And Afghanistan, let’s go Brandon, let’s go!!!
Wars, conflicts, terrorism are legal ways to profit for the big and wealthy....you are nothing but a bag of meat to them....we truly still live in a jungle mindset
Remember u used to be labelled a criminal , thug for smoking marijuana.....up until recently
@darksteering is English your first language? Did you understand what I wrote?
lol lmao rofl sos dept eta misc min est temp vet vs
People getting all riled up about these "terrorists" yet cannot recognize the "terrorists" that they support and worship all the time.
What’s israel? Never heard of such a thing 🤔
keep dreaming
Its a bicycle team.You know,like Tour De France🚲🚲🚲
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Giving In To Terrorism | Lufthansa Flight 649
Why name the crew? Name the hijackers. Going back 50 years you are desperate.
I can see you being desperate trying annoy people, sorry not working. Bud
@@JosephStalin-yk2hd I have driven down his views.
Like he said at the end of the video - Nobody knows who they F*CKING ARE!