The reason why saying raymond was ginger friend was bad. Is that the prosecution was trying to prove ginger and raymond were doing the crime together. So all they had to do was somehow prove that Raymond and ginger were more than friends, accomplices/ partners
Even if they somehow proved that they worked together, that wouldn’t be enough to prove that she was at the scene of this specific crime. Bringing Raymond into this as the friend who gave Ginger the keys in this situation would be a VERY good alibi for her, although it might not overrule the fact that it was such a small time period and she was wearing the same exact outfit as the person who committed the crime.
Cops when Ramee asks them a yes or no question "Its not a yes or no question" starts waffling. Cops when Ginger starts waffling after being asked a question "Its a yes or no question" Judge "Awnser yes or no"
@davidschmidt2081 are you serious a miss trial would prove there is no evidence to hold someone for those charges as the judge said these charges are tickets not hold till court charges
@davidschmidt2081 here a little bit more if you don't like that reply 🙄 Mistrial is defined as a trial rendered invalid through an error in the proceedings
@mcdowelltravis5 "A mistrial, in essence, temporarily leaves the case in limbo until decisions can be made about how and when to move forward." For your first comment, no, a mistrial does not have to mean there's no evidence, it can happen for all sorts of reasons. To your second point, yes, it renders the trial invalid, what's your point? That is true, the charges aren't just dropped, though, except in rare cases where the state doesn't decide to pursue the charges anymore. The trial is found to be invalid so they schedule a new one.
That's exactly the kind of case you should want Crane to be opposition on, an absolute lay-up of a case. Getting pushed on the easiest of cases makes you stronger in the challenging cases. I'll cut Ramee some slack cause he was cooked, but you should always be looking at what the charges are and how to disprove that and it should always be cemented in your mind who the initial officer on scene is, if you mess up that single detail it will always make you look like an amateur. Joyriding should of been super easy to disprove, the first question you should of asked each officer is was there any sign of the vehicle being tampered with, second thing should be her relationship with Ray (an employee and friend of his), third thing her clean record; that establishes she did not steal it, she has no motive to deprive her boss of his property, and no history of doing anything remotely like that. Speaking to her reluctance to name drop Ray it's obviously because he is her boss and interns are supposed to fall on the sword for people up the food chain, but you can muddy the waters speaking to Ray's generous nature and how he could of loaned that to any one of like 50 interns before her and with her brain injury its really hard to keep track of all of them.
@@devinmyer5784 If you have the patience to sit through over an hour of court RP you probably don't have a problem with reading a few paragraphs. If you skipped through the video just to see the verdict, you probably are thinking TLDR.
It's funny that Ramee thinks Crane was somehow throwing him off, when Crane was keeping him from shooting himself in the foot. Also, there was zero reason for the joyriding charge in the first place, the fact Ramee thought they were getting that charge is hilarious, and pretty clearly shows he has zero idea how law actually works. The prosecution is essentially accusing her of being in the car WITH Ray, how could she possibly get joyriding then if she is later found driving in HIS car, which was never reported stolen, nor did they check with the owner of the car if she was allowed to be driving it.
This outcome should have been obvious to anyone. She ran a red light and they had no evidence to support any other charges other than the similar outfits. There are always characters who are dressed blacked out with masks and helmets on in the city. The defense should NEVER have to disprove something, the prosecution HAS TO PROVE GUILT, BEYOND THE SHADOW OF A DOUBT.
Even though she was wearing what was dicripted in the first inital chase no face no case. Cant id the entire time cant continue to hold person for that crime
That would still be joyriding by how it's written, he had to prove she didn't steal it even if it was only temporary. He didn't even need to talk about it because the cops gave zero evidence it was stolen. Stop pretending like you know how things work in a court room, you have no idea. And certainly less than Ramee.
Crane trying to mentor ramee with the Tough love this case is kinda cute lmao
yeah crane is giving him really good experience here for future cases
He does a good job at facilitating RP, pretty much always a positive interaction.
Ramee W mans
Stayed up for this when he was goin off
Really wish Ramee would spend stream or two with a judge or crane just going over the fundamentals. Could really help him
Bro is way too ADHD to pay attention to all that
That would be fun to watch true
What if he could shadow Crane for a day?? Would improve his understanding and what he can challenge more!
he cant with his adhd @@isabellad7396
Ramee not a criminal lawyer he’s a “criminal” lawyer. He’s waiting to get debarred no need to invest lol
wow what a trial
25:00 is so funny
I am 100% sure Crane gamble his point in ramee's chat for a lose and act on it :D
He got lucky that dumbf 1 and 2 didnt know how to do their job 🤣
that's exactly the reason why he won. Ramee himself literally told them that it wont go well if they want a bench trial lmao
Lucky? I'm 30 mins in seems like an easy case for ramen.
The reason why saying raymond was ginger friend was bad. Is that the prosecution was trying to prove ginger and raymond were doing the crime together. So all they had to do was somehow prove that Raymond and ginger were more than friends, accomplices/ partners
ramee just didnt care and didnt thought at all that he has to avoid bringing them together
Even if they somehow proved that they worked together, that wouldn’t be enough to prove that she was at the scene of this specific crime. Bringing Raymond into this as the friend who gave Ginger the keys in this situation would be a VERY good alibi for her, although it might not overrule the fact that it was such a small time period and she was wearing the same exact outfit as the person who committed the crime.
Cops when Ramee asks them a yes or no question "Its not a yes or no question" starts waffling.
Cops when Ginger starts waffling after being asked a question "Its a yes or no question"
Judge "Awnser yes or no"
when will these cops learn to do their due diligence and stop trying to cut corners if they want to prove their case?
never because they will never get punished
these were cadets
i love this judge
Court documants should only be typed in black ink miss trial due to some statements that are not written in black ink cannot be used in court
A mistrial only delays the trial. It doesn't drop charges. What would be the benefit of delaying?
@davidschmidt2081 are you serious a miss trial would prove there is no evidence to hold someone for those charges as the judge said these charges are tickets not hold till court charges
@davidschmidt2081 here a little bit more if you don't like that reply 🙄
Mistrial is defined as a trial rendered invalid through an error in the proceedings
@mcdowelltravis5 "A mistrial, in essence, temporarily leaves the case in limbo until decisions can be made about how and when to move forward."
For your first comment, no, a mistrial does not have to mean there's no evidence, it can happen for all sorts of reasons. To your second point, yes, it renders the trial invalid, what's your point? That is true, the charges aren't just dropped, though, except in rare cases where the state doesn't decide to pursue the charges anymore. The trial is found to be invalid so they schedule a new one.
OFFICER JOHNSON 📣📣📣📣📣📣📣📣📣📣😂
Ramee is the GOAT wtf
the police girl literalyt lying on court as a cadet lmfao
That's exactly the kind of case you should want Crane to be opposition on, an absolute lay-up of a case. Getting pushed on the easiest of cases makes you stronger in the challenging cases. I'll cut Ramee some slack cause he was cooked, but you should always be looking at what the charges are and how to disprove that and it should always be cemented in your mind who the initial officer on scene is, if you mess up that single detail it will always make you look like an amateur.
Joyriding should of been super easy to disprove, the first question you should of asked each officer is was there any sign of the vehicle being tampered with, second thing should be her relationship with Ray (an employee and friend of his), third thing her clean record; that establishes she did not steal it, she has no motive to deprive her boss of his property, and no history of doing anything remotely like that.
Speaking to her reluctance to name drop Ray it's obviously because he is her boss and interns are supposed to fall on the sword for people up the food chain, but you can muddy the waters speaking to Ray's generous nature and how he could of loaned that to any one of like 50 interns before her and with her brain injury its really hard to keep track of all of them.
Write a a book next time
@@devinmyer5784Are you so highly regarded that you can’t read three paragraphs? Actual three second attention span Andy.
@@devinmyer5784 If you have the patience to sit through over an hour of court RP you probably don't have a problem with reading a few paragraphs.
If you skipped through the video just to see the verdict, you probably are thinking TLDR.
@@BandOfTheHawk2 💀💀💀 comparing watching funny enjoyable content to reading 3 paragraphs of an RP analyst yapping is crazy
@@bradleywesterman4439 you referred to me as an Andy so I will not be taking your comments seriously
46:23 "...no." 😅
Ramee deffo could be much better, even tho in this instance he had small tine to prepare, loving the content Ramos
He was tired
If half his words weren't "uuuuh... uuuhhhh..." and a fountain of saliva then he would actually be decent
HE HIS HIM
When Crane is there, I hear Drake's track "Daddy's Home. Daddy's Home."
It's funny that Ramee thinks Crane was somehow throwing him off, when Crane was keeping him from shooting himself in the foot.
Also, there was zero reason for the joyriding charge in the first place, the fact Ramee thought they were getting that charge is hilarious, and pretty clearly shows he has zero idea how law actually works. The prosecution is essentially accusing her of being in the car WITH Ray, how could she possibly get joyriding then if she is later found driving in HIS car, which was never reported stolen, nor did they check with the owner of the car if she was allowed to be driving it.
No VOD from yesterday’s stream on Ramee ‘s Twitch Channel
where the vod at?
This outcome should have been obvious to anyone. She ran a red light and they had no evidence to support any other charges other than the similar outfits. There are always characters who are dressed blacked out with masks and helmets on in the city. The defense should NEVER have to disprove something, the prosecution HAS TO PROVE GUILT, BEYOND THE SHADOW OF A DOUBT.
Thank you
Ramee wishes he was Wolverine
EZ basically beat Crane. Thats my lawyer 😂
did anything happen to the 2 cadets after that ?
1:04:06 ramen is done.
Officer can you tell me if being suspicious is a crime enough to arrest
Yeah he defo has the ACDC, just like he admitted
I hate officer johnson
We all do
I like him
He’s actually funny lol
@@Ocho5 I've only seen him in this instance, it seems like a classic case of loud funny
Chat being yikes.
Even though she was wearing what was dicripted in the first inital chase no face no case. Cant id the entire time cant continue to hold person for that crime
Should have asked your client. What her intentions were with the vehicle she was giving if she says return it no joyridding charge
Idk y this guy can’t even pay attention even a little when it comes to when ppl talk to him lol
I actualy feel bad for Ramee they have 5 people there verse 2 and they just keep stringing the questions when they have already answered
Ramos isnt good at trial. Dude definitely cant wing it. He need to build his case before trial even starts.
Got lucky af the judge knows the law
well its kind of the judges job to know the law
Why did john sound sad? Did he get hoppers?
Probably yeah
Case would have been a lot better if the cops had a real prosecutor
Ramee is a great content creator but a terrible lawyer. They handed this to him on a silver platter and he almost fumbled it 😂
Terrible? No.
Ramme cooked but as shes testifying im thinking this is the first L ramme takes
She never stole the car
Correct no proof even that ray gave it to her
Cooked 23-1
Thare go be away to change the font
Bro thats your loss right there. You could of proved her intent with the vehicle was to give it back
That would still be joyriding by how it's written, he had to prove she didn't steal it even if it was only temporary. He didn't even need to talk about it because the cops gave zero evidence it was stolen. Stop pretending like you know how things work in a court room, you have no idea. And certainly less than Ramee.
Thats not why she was pulled over
Oh shit cook ramme if she was gonna give the vehicle back its not joyriding
Stealing a car is joyriding orthe takening of a vehicle without wanteing to give it back
Crane dontand shouldn't agree because you never proved her intent