How to Remove a Fuel Pump Lock Ring: Reality Check!
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- Опубликовано: 23 окт 2024
- In this video I explained the reality for removing a lock ring. They can be easy or they can be a pain to remove. There is multiple methods to remove them and none are perfect! You will damage the ring if its seized in place.
If it doesn't start turning from the start, with the lock ring tool or a wood plank/metal bar, you will need to apply more force and it will damage the tabs of the ring.
Be sure to use penetrating oil as soon as you remove the seat and the plugs from the fuel pump. This will give you an edge agains't the ring's friction.
Hope it help!
If you go to an auto parts store and tell them that you want to borrow a tool to remove the ring holding the fuel pump/ fuel sending unit and tell them the year make and model of the vehicle they will let you borrow it. Sometimes you just leave your id with them and other times you give them a deposit and your id and as long as you return the tool undamaged you will get the whole deposit back
True! I'll pin your comment for the others!
Around my town they've stopped offering the service, but it is a quick and cheap option too!
I have been to 4 parts stores and not one of them knows what this tool is.
@@NathanThompsonBlueEyes not sure if it helps, but the name of the tool is Spanner wrench
@probonomechanic thank you, but factually speaking, all open-ended wrenches are spanners.
best video in RUclips of how to remove gas tank ring! THANK YOU FOR SHARING!
This video needs to be 3 minutes max. I swear you took more of my life just watching this entire video
Hahaha sorry for that!
Atleast where you able to remove the lock ring?
15:53 just saved u 19 minutes of your life
Thank u for posting 🙏 I have a 2007 corolla
@@nielsbohrdom No problem, I hope it helped!
I tried for hours to get mine off until I used your chisel bar thing and it finally came off. Thank you a ton this saved me!!
Glad it worked! Did you broke a lot of the small tabs or did it turn smooth afterward?
I used the exact same method to get mine off, except I used a large rubber mallet instead of a metal one. I beat on it for about ten minutes and it broke free. I didn't even damage the tabs at all! it did fight me most of the way, not an easy task. The short prybar was just the right tool, I've had mine for at least 30 years and it's a must have for my tool box. Thanks for this video, it helped make my job easier!
Thank you for your video. I had one of those nail pullers and it worked like a charm. I had been trying to unscrew the lock ring for an hour with no luck.
Glad it worked!
I didn’t use this video on the car you’re talking about, but used the same/similar method on a golf cart fuel pump, worked like a charm.
Thanks a lot man, the bar worked like a charm(got one from Lowe’s for $8)I tried the spanner wrench and many other tools but I finally got it loose with the bar. Keep up the great work!!👍
Glad it worked for you!
Did you break or cut off many tabs while doing it?
Good sir, your video has ended a 12 hour battle for my father against that bloody ring. Worked within a couple of minutes! Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
You are welcome!
You video was so helpful the only thing I did was grinding down the sharp edges of the bar it took me a nimute to removed thanks exelente video
Glad it helped!
Can confirm, throw the universal in the heap, broke tabs instantly. Used my seal puller as a bar like you did. Thank you for the video. I'm a diesel tech so I don't have annnnything for a lock ring like that. Much appreciated 🙏
Like I said it seems ingenious to put it under the seat with a platic lock... until it gets tested by reality!
Glad it help!
Thanks for video. To install the lock ring I resorted to a drilling/crack hammer 3 lb sledge and a flat head screw driver.
Was about to give up. Used an angle grinder to make convert a crow bar into the suggested tool and it worked! Thank you.
You are welcome! Happy the grinder went in the crowbar and not the gas tank! Hahaha
Well, I tried a lot of other things, but this what ended up working. Thanks so much!
Glad it helped!
You saved my bacon with this video - thank you for posting! I didn’t have the exact same crow bar but one similar - it’s the angle on the end to get a straight hit I think is key. After an hour of cussing went to the tube and landed on your vid. Worked great for me!
That's the replies that makes my day! Glad it worked!
i just have to come back and say, Thank you sir. for making this video after breaking half the fins smashing the shit out of my knuckles and tweaking my back. got a pry bar and had it off in 2 whacks. RUclips mechanics rule
Glad it helped! Just hope you're not too much in a bad shape after all of that. The car won't feel it, but you will tomorrow. Stay safe!
I’m battling one right now on a 03 crv , good times 👍🏻🍻🇨🇦
Hope it works for you!
Question, did you have problems with the switch for the windows and door locks on the driver side of you CR-V?
@@probonomechanic just got the bugger out lol I had a full tank of gas from 3 years ago when I stored it and this seemed like the best way to pump it out and see it ,,, no my crv has literally never had an issue other than the airbag recall and consumables like brakes etc,, it’s an 03 the fully loaded I decided to take her out of retirement these are the best👍🏻🍻🇨🇦
I should add though it’s never left outside or winter driven
That CR-V is getting more live than 99% of the vehicles on the road today hahaha
I use to have a 98 it was one of the besy vehicle I had. So you are doing well to keep it in good shape! That thing will last for ever hahah
I remember when I did this a few years before your video. Oh man that sucked. I used a large screwdriver with a wide and thick end and hit that with a hammer. Took many attempts with other methods first.
Bless you sir the pry bar worked, 1 alternator 300 dollars 1 fuel pump 500 dollars verdict . . . It ain't got no gas in it
Fuel gauge is not working?
The replacement fuel pump have a new sending unit and it should fix it.
Your awesome bro! Thank you for the video, I’m about to do this and didn’t want to have to borrow the tool. Subbed
Keep me posted on the work!
Just switched it out without an issue. I appreciate you man. Switched the pump and an injector
I tried every way you described on my 2010 Corolla, (and many others) but no success. Even a tool that grab on to many sides of the ring would not work when I used a 30' breaker bar. Then I tried an impact wrench with the same tool and it came loose immediately!
Very Clever! Great advice!!!!
Thank you for the board tip!
I'm happy if it helped!
I know this is a 3 year old video, but I just saw it. i thought it might help others to suggest using a dead-blow hammer instead of wrapping rags around a metal hammer. Also, a fan to blow the fumes away would help. Just a thought...
My father, a mechanic of forty plus years. Says the pri bar method is the most effective of them all besides the fuel pump tool itself
Good job. What stand did you use to hold your phone.
Not really sure the brand, it came in my old P.O. Box.
It's a tripod that can extend up to 5 feet high. Pretty neat!
I have 2018 nissan sentra but fuel gauge problem as well, thinking of doing it myself
Sorry for the delay. Did you try the job on your sentra?
The lock ring is a bit different and it should be a metal lock ring.
Thanks for all the tips man. Trying to take one off an old Mercedes. I finally got the cover off but it looks like it was in a car accident now, and then that damn lock ring beat me so I gave up for the evening. I'll start with trying with some wood tomorrow morning, and if need be move on to one of the roofers crow bar... I actually have one from when I had replaced a bunch of roof shingles. But thank you so much for making this video with all your suggestions, hopefully I'll have more luck tomorrow.
Let me know if it eventually moved!
I am going to try your method but first I would like to know if I absolutely have to remove the fuel lines first before hammering the lock ring because I have two fuel lines coming from my unit ( renault megane2-1.5dci). One line has the red circle like in your video & the other line has black push button sides to unlock it. Can I just leave the lines connected ? Thanks
Hadi
It is not an absolute, but it is advized.
The reason is that the fuel pump could turn as you start to remove the lock ring. This could kink, twist, or damage the fuel lines.
Since the fuel lines stays with the car and the fuel pump is change it is safer to just remove them in advance.
Was your purpose to change the fuel pump?
P.S: Sorry for the delayed answer
What should you do if the ring keeps breaking?
Sorry for the delay!
Which technic are you using?
To help reduce the amount of broken tabs you can do 2 things.
1: use penetrating oil or a good can of lub to soak the lock ring. Let it soak a good 4 hours or more before working on it back.
2: If you are using the prybar similar to the one in my video. The edge of the prybar that make contact with the tabs is sharp. Use a grinder to flat out that sharp angle.
Hope these helps!
@probonomechanic thanks for the reply, but my ring has broke twice all the way around. Im not sure if they make a metal replacement but that seems to be the only logical thing.
try putting a few layers of painters tape on the edge of the prybar maybe less likely to chip off the notches on the lock ring? also less chance to spark if it slides off after hitting
Good point!
So I tried this and many, many more things and now I think that I just need to cut it off, any advice?
True my friend. It's not easy to remove the ring. I break 2 sides pieces and stop. Your video is explained better and clear. Ty.
Hope that the job went well for you!
The mechanics did brake it for me, now i just got myself a DIY tool to open and close it whenever i need to work there.
hi boss when i turn the key the pump click then when i crank it, it sounds like its working but am not receiving injector ground pulse
@@trevino9136 there could be a few things. I always ask to see if there are any codes that pop on the OBD2 scan.
Beside that the injector fuse or it could be the anti-theft systems that is still on.
@@probonomechanic no codes, when i insert key and turn it the security light blinkS doesn't go away i was thinking it was a security issue i greatly appreciate it u the man
@@trevino9136 check this video at 4:53 if you have a corolla
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@@probonomechanic 1 more questions does ur fuel pump prime when key is turned to on not run
@@trevino9136 if the line is already prime it will not make a sound.
If you tried to start ot often you may need to clean the spark plug if they are full of unburnt gas. Cleaning the spark plug will shownif you got gas in the cylinder and help to unflood the engine
Mine was stuck to the point where nothing could get it off.. I ended up cutting it using a flat head screwdriver and a hammar.. then I got a used one from a store that sells used parts. It only costed me about $6 .. So that's the best option for anyone struggling to take it off
If it gets to that point and nothing else have worked, it is sadly the last option.
It's nice that you could find a spare lock ring. Did you keep the original o-ring or did you take a new one?
In the past, I sprayed the penetraring oil around the bottom of the ring over the period of a week. My ring came of with a long screwdriver and a hammer. Don't know it this helped or not. So just letting others know.
Any information or advice is always welcome!
Did you just do a single heavy spray or did you add more over the week?
Hi, can i cut the lock ring with a saw? Will it be safe? Its super stuck on my 2016 corolla. Ill replace with a new lock ring ofcourse
I really can't suggest it.
The reason is that the lock ring screw over the gas tank. If you cut it just a bit too far, you will damage the treads on the gas tank where the lock ring screw.
It will result into either a constant gas smell/gas fumes inside the car or the new lock ring may not screw over the broken treads.
Did you try to use a can of lubricant to litterally flood the lock ring with oil? If you do let it sit a few minutes and then try to hit has hard as you can with the pry bar I showed in the video. (Remember to use a rag to protect the hammer from making a spark)
If you have no other choices, i woupd say that you need to make 2 cuts, one on each side of the lock ring to opposite side (once cut it would look like two half-moon).
The pain will be the sides of the lock ring. So you can either try to use some kind of chisel or screwdriver to try to seperate/break the lock ring where you made the cut.
Be really carefull! I don't want you to caught fire if you hit metal on metal. So use a rag or some old clothing to protect the hammer from sparking on the chisel.
Let me know how it goes!
@@probonomechanic thank you for the thoughtful reply! No, i have not tried oil/lubricant. Do you recommend PB Blaster? I was worried that it would contaminate the gas. Ill try this first before trying to cut the ring. Thank you again!
@@karmabasedj8184 PB blaster would be perfect for the job!
Don't worry too much for contamination for now. Shoot the lubricant heavily on top of the gas pump and all around the lock ring.
Wait a few minutes and when it is time to start the job use a rag or towel (paper or cloth) to sponge out the extra lubricant!
I would say a few good hit after that and it should turn. I really hope it will move from there. When the ring starts to move prepare your rags to wipe the top of the gas pump of any big pool of PB Blaster.
There is usually a o-ring under it, make sure to keep it and not let it fall inside the tank. Sometimes the new o-rings aren't a perfect fit and you will need to compare the old one with the new one.
Keep me informed!
Cheers
@@probonomechanic sure will! Thx again
Hey happy to say that PB blaster did the trick! I used a LOT of it and it eventually budged. I put in a new lock ring along with the new pump. Thx again!
Got mine with a flat head screw diver and hammer. No chipped pieces. Also to put back on, I just put the cap in microwave for 20 seconds to soften the plastic . I had no choice as being a ute, I had the entire tank out LOL.
New tank and straps?
Drum Brake Adjuster tool is also good
Good point!
Follow up, I used the kit and did not work, the chisel bar with a towel and a hammer did it though. Finally got it moving after literal hours
Glad you got it out! They are a pain to remove.
Keep the old o-ring under the lock ring. The new one could be too small or too big. So compare them before reinstalling
You have of number part of fuel pump retainer?
Depends on your model! Check Rockauto.com and enter the year and model specificly, then go to the fuel pump section for that model. It will help for the specifics!
Use a block of wood, not steel which can cause a spark!
True! And a good advice!
true video
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Hope it helps!
You're preaching to the choir sir, I've met the same fate and ended up breaking the retainer ring
How the f do i get it back on?! Been at it for almost two hours now
The o-ring/seal needs to be properly installed. If you got a new one with the pump, make sure it is the same size as the old one (compare them together if you can).
Double check the treads in the lockring and on the tank.
So I’m not alone 😂😭
Tried finding a video to see what I was doing wrong but it showed a plastic lock ring on a Toyota. No help
How to take lock ring off of fuel pump in trunk of a 2008 cadillac days can’t get it off!
If I remember well they use the same lock ring as the chevy.
Is it the metal lock ring with the grooves on the exterior edge?
Uck, now I am scared.....gotta get that thingy off tomorrow.
First step will be to soak it with a lot of lubricant. Just that will make the job a bit easier.
Hope for you its an easy one!
@@probonomechanic Thanks, will do. As for easy, LOL, original pump on my 98
Ram Van.....it is rotted in place. ☺
Ohhh ya! I remember those. Plastic lock ring and the ridges are few and long.
Pain full one, good luck buddy!
Let me know
@@probonomechanic Thank again!
I couldn’t finish…geesh
Hey! Sorry for the delay!
What's the status on the removal?
Give me a short list of what you did, I'll see if I can help
This is me, hours and can’t get it off even with the kit. Let’s see if the video helps
Keep me posted!
I don’t want to give up but this is really frustrating, I’ve been at this for 2 days, used both methods even later on adding lube and it still won’t turn
Hi! Sorry for the delay!
Were you succesful?
Assenmacher does make really nice ones. For the cost, its a high cost for a one time job for the whole life of the car.
Always prefer cheaper alternative when possible...but sometimes I guess we have no choice (but at that price better bring it to a mechanic shop so someone else will hit his head against it.)
Do I really need to watch a 19 minute video for 3 minute explanation and a 30 minute job?
No, no, there are plenty of videos that are shorter on the subject on youtube.
My video is general informations with the reality on what work and I what I do for these type of lock rings.
I still suggest watching my video since other videos could make you believe that you are doing something wrong or at a minimum not buy a 100$ tool when a 10$ tool or plank of wood could do the job.
All in all, feel free to ask question if you hit a road block.
Ugh wish I saw this 8 hours ago
Never a good sign...what did you do?
Did you cut off the ring?
@@probonomechanic haha yep it wouldn’t budge so eventually I switched the flathead for a chisel, even severed it twists back on OK. Will buy a replacement. Then after with new pump, still won’t run! Oh joy!
Hahha you did what you had to do!
Just hope the threads are no damaged on the tank.
Car wasnt starting?
@@probonomechanic yeah car died after I added fuel cleaner! Even with a split it still spins back on tight
You can try putting an impact hammer on a brass drift also and use a piece of wood and yoga move between the 2. Either way I've never understood why oem rings don't have a 1/2" ratchet recess built in.. always a pita for sure. Never thought about using a small pry bar! Great video and thanks for sharing! Going to tackle a 07 Chry shortly.
Sucks when u have a tow hitch
Removing the gas tank?
Your right the removal tool sucked, your pry bar idea was just what the dr ordered. A few taps and it was loose!!!!
Good!
I'm glad the video helped you!
What year and model is the car you were working on?
16 Corolla
Nice, so you were able to access the top of the gas pump from under the seat and to hit the ring with the pry from there? Or did you have to drop the tank?
Yes from under the seat. Changed the pump and car still not starting. Still trying to figure it out…
Ok, tell me: does the car crank?
Shit Is A Nightmare
I’ve been at this for 30 minutes, mine won’t move
Hi, what are the steps that you took?
Did you try with the lubricant?
Leeting it soak a few minutes will help a lot!
Which tool are you using
@@probonomechanic I used lube, I wait, I add more lube. I let it soak in between adding lube. And I’m using a metal thing that’s like your cowl bar but thicker and shorter. Im just hitting it as you show in the video
Update I got it off, put on the new fuel pump. But now I can’t put on the ring, ugh
Ok, remove the lock ring and check the o-ring. Are you using the new one or the old one?
Compare the size of both. Maybe the one you are using isnt good and it doesnt fit properly. Try with the other o-ring if you are not sure and check without tighting too much if the lock can get in the treads.
Let me know!
P.S.: the lubricant did the job?
@@probonomechanic Both the O-ring was the same size. After trying I got it, after 10 minutes. Idk why it was so hard. Everything was working and my car drives like brand new, better than using my old fuel pump. Thanks for the video and the tip about lube.
I beat tf out of mine with a pickle fork then I tried PB Blaster and it moved right away
Why you talk to later shinto the job yes did
Hahah I admit I need to work on that . It is mostly because I am not an native English speaker and mostly learn on the job. I wish I was taught earlier in my life instead of when I was an adult.
Use a deadblow 😂
Yes, that would work too hahaha
All that and you never show it when it’s off. Thanks for nothing.
😅😅😅😅😅😅😂😂😂😂
I hope these are joy emoji
Tried wood, screwdriver, metal bar, flat pry bar as suggested, nothing works. I'm going to cut the fucker off and buy a new one. Ridiculous how these are designed.
Ahhh, you got one of those! You must feeled it, when I said some people make it look so easy, when it's not the reality.
Usually the flat bar with an heavy mallet would have done it. Man, if you are feed-up I don't judge you for cutting it off, but if you can keep going with an heavy maller with the flat pry bar.
-Get piss and cut off those tab with the pry bar and the hammer. I want you to try to break them. I believe it will turn after 5-6 broken tab.
But ya, if you go for the cuting, watch yourself, don't touch the floor. A cut on top of the lock ring on both side will do the job. Finish with an hammer and a chisel or something.
Prefer you being piss in one peice than you being piss and missing half your face from a burn.
P.S: Save the o-ring between the floor and the pump, just incase the new pump doesn't have the proper one. Happenned often to me to get smaller one!
Stay safe man! And Fuck that lock ring for me! Hahahah