IRON REMOVER: what's the best way to use it? Less, or more?
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- To spray, or not to spray -- that is the question. In this video, Nick and Yvan go head to head -- Yvan sprays 4 times, Nick sprays dozens of times. Does more product lead to better results? What say you?
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Love how you guys show us how to preserve products, even though it would benefit you guys more for us to overuse it. I appreciate you guys for being real, honest men. 💯
You’re welcome
Thank you.
I'll echo this. Product and time efficiency while maintaining quality work. Can't recall last time a company did this, and it's why I frequent the DIY channel. Keep at it guys
Your time is your life, have fun detailing! A video covering your process/suggestions for touching up rock chips would be great.
Great suggestion!
Love the comparison and the explanations!
Keep it you.
I dig the - back to basic videos while you transition!
More to come!
Excellent vidéo, prooves that more product doesn't mean more efficiency.
C’est très vrai.
I've been waiting for a video like this forever! Great demo with evidence of the methods.
Glad you liked it!
Just got my DIY Decon Towel and I'm pumped to use it. Coming from having learned to mechanically decon a car with a piece of clay bar that roughly works out to 1.5" x 1.5" piece (or smaller), and moving to a decon towel that can cover an area the size of my hand!....all while not inducing the marring a clay bar does, AND the decon towel is reusable!!!! What a huge gain in the realm of car detailing.
Agreed!
Thank you.
I counted 39 sprays. Love the 80's power guitar with the slo-mo fist pump though. 👌
lol you’re about right 😂
I love that you taught us this. My brother just bought a new to him used truck and has thoughts of me, the family auto detail enthusiast doing a full detail/coating on it. I’ll admit I’m like Ty in that I like to spray but have noticed I go through a lot of chemical!
Thank you.
That opening slayed me 🤣🤣🤣
Thank you.
If you pressure wash the iron that's been bleeding red for a while the contaminants come off pretty easily. The iron remover helps break down the iron and then it gets taken off with a pressure washer pretty easily.
It’s much faster and easier the way we have shown
I get a lot of brand new vehicles/garage queens. Seems like Yvans method will be enough when doing a new car. This just saved me potentially thousands of dollars.
Thank you.
Always good content. I liked seeing the side-by-side comparison.
Glad you liked it!
Firstly, love that ur looking for efficiency but I don't view this as one.
You correctly highlighted that fallout doesn't dissolve fallout. It dissolves the rust layer around it.
The fallout as lube makes no sense from a damage perspective. It's a white car in the demo, the fallout comparison on both sides doesn't view well in video ie can barely see any difference as a viewer. From another perspective, neither method looks at the damage it prevents and this is key to this step.
Fallout remover needs time to dissolve the rust layer around this (drop a rusty bolt into a bath of fallout remover - the rust doesn't go immediately, it needs time). Your use of it as lube leads to no time for a reaction.
Spraying fallout remover onto the clay cloth is pointless, it's not getting the chance to react with the rust element of the bonded fallout. This use is just a very expensive way to lubricate the clay towel. You would be better off with just clay lube.
The whole purpose of fallout remover is to remove as much metal contamination before the physical mechanical removal of the left over contamination via claying. In your advised method this just doesn't happen, you are claying over metal fillings and (I would strongly suggest this is the case) leading to more marring. In the video the paint is white and damage isn't looked at at all.
Iron remover needs a good 6 to 8 minutes of dwell to allow the reaction to loosen the bonded fallout. Without this you are simply wasting product and money.
I get that the time isn't ideal but plan ur processes to allow you to be working on something while the fallout is working.
There is of course an argument that additional marring isnt a huge issue as if your doing this process you will be polishing anyway. I'm always of the view that don't create work for yourself and as a detailer I'm training to avoid damaging as best as I possibly can.
My summary here would be I view that u have just clayed fallout, don't bother with iron remover in this process if you can live with the additional marring caused.
OR
Use fallout remover correctly allowing the dwell, rinse off dislodging fallout then clay - leading to less marring and makes perfect sense knowing how each product works.
Appreciate your continuous search for efficiencies but this isn't one.
If you take the time to explore using DIY Detail Iron Remover and the DIY Detail Perforated Synthetic Decontamination Towel , you will conclude the same as we have here and thousands of other detailers that have adopted this method that Yvan has been teaching for many years.
Wow that was truly a detailed critique. You guys need a "science off" to see who is truly factual. Bottom line is the differences are likely very negligible for even the enthusiasts. I applaud the efforts.
Thanks guys, you are changing a world that is too oriented towards product dispersion and which perhaps also exceeds in refinements, which we enthusiasts who wash the car in our garage cannot apply.
I would like to ask you a question since next Saturday, given that numerous DIY products have arrived, I would like to proceed with the decontamination of my car.
I'll already tell you that I will proceed with decontamination towel and iron remover, after a thorough wash with Rinseless wash, I will follow Yvan's philosophy.
In the video, I see that you pass the water hose at the end of the decontamination, but I have not the hose in my garage.
If I remember correctly, Nick in a previous video rinsed the iron remover with a generous spray containing Rinselss wash 256:1, and then added normally with a towl
Can I proceed like this?
Cheers from Italy
Yes perfect, Caio.
Thanks!
This is a great system which works very well. I am getting four large cars per bottle of iron remover and this includes spraying the wheels.
Thank you.
I have surface rust forming in a very hard to reach spot. It's a motorcycle seat clamp on a painted gas tank. It will be hard to get the iron remover into the spot, it will be hard to wipe and even rinse it out of there. Would you recommend I still use it for this application? I need to stop the rust somehow.
@@MassPsychology666 can you reach a detailing brush into the spot? You can spray the end of the brush with the iron remover and then agitate.
Nick's teeth are whiter than that car's paint. 0:20 He must be using gold standard on them :)
lol
Can you guys do a video on how you clean microfiber and all other towels upon use and have them ready for next job?
Good idea
Yvan, what is your favorite microfiber detergent?
"Spray town" Nick kills me
Thank you.
Let me guess, 1 spray on the panel, 1 spray on the towel, deposit towel to spray on panel; no further product needed?
have you watched this channel before:) stay tuned you never know...
Thank you
Great information, thanks for the video. It seems to me that, because the Iron Remover doesn't actually remove any iron at all but only removes the rust on the iron, there is no reason to use the expensive Iron Remover. Just use the decon towel with your favourite (and cheaper) lubrication and get the same result. Or maybe I missed something.
Even though the towel removes the iron, it doesn’t remove the rust stain.
@@diydetailofficial Right, that makes sense.
I always thought that dissolving the rust also helps release the iron particles easier, with less effort.
THANK YOU 🙏 VERY USEFUL
Glad it was helpful!
Great job and it works well
Thanks
Have you done a video of preparing a ceramic coated car to apply a different ceramic coating
It’s the same process as preparing any car, wash, decontaminate, polish, coat.
AWESOME !!!
to watch it, im enjoy life 🎉😊
Good job good sharing from BALI
Glad you enjoyed it!
Ya but you missed the reasoning behind what Nick did. First off, he used too much even still. He also, didn't lightly work it into the paint with a damp microfiber after a few minutes.
But the point of doing it that way is to remove and breakdown some iron and even into the crevices that its in, making it not only easier to remove with the clay towel but also LESS marring.
That is supposed to be the reason to do it that way.
I would love to see on a polished car... Black car, which introduced more marring.
The Perforated Synthetic Decontamination Towel combined with DIY Detail Iron Remover doesn’t induce any marring.
Even just using a dampbmicrofiber with iron remover works better than just spraying it on and washing it off.
True
Let's do this
let's go!
Water Spot or Iron Remover, which goes first? I'm thinking water spot first to remove any minerals that are "protecting" the iron oxides.
Iron remover first.
I have always thought that the Iron Remover was short for Iron Oxide Remover, in other words rust remover.
That’s another good way of looking at it
Hopefully my ceramic coating is back
Yes
Guys, I make iron remover foam when I decon ;)
Like, deiron foam-rinse-deiron foam and clay towel.
Why you presoak before deiron? Doesn’t it delute the product or creates barier between product and the paint?
Of course paint should be clean but why wet?
It makes little difference.
@@diydetailofficialthanks
Where did you guys find the red nitrile gloves? The gloves and towels appear to be perfectly matched to Yvan’s shoes! 😂
Amazon
When can we expect the rest of the product line on amazon?
We are working on it now. We also have many distributors
Https://diydetail.com/pages/distributors
AG (Auto Glanz)'s "Blood Tonic" works best on a dry surface. Still a washed surface.
How to:
"Shake well before use and spray Blood Tonic evenly onto the surface to be treated at the correct dilution rate (most effective on a dry surface)".
I guess it depends on the product?
It's too much time to clean, dry, decon, dry again.
Use the manufacturer’s instructions
If I’m doing strip wash, then iron remover with decon towel, do I need to do anything besides rinsing before I do a spray and rinse application of Ceramic Gloss?
Rinsing is all you need
Can we use any cloth like microfiber cloth ?
No, a Perforated Synthetic Decontamination Towel
Great tip guys, I was spraying like Nick was 😂. I will use less product next time.
Glad it was helpful!
I appreciate the demonstration and the work. I like to know what darker color vehicles will experience or be able to notice?
The contamination is on all vehicles, you just don’t see it as much
Thanks guys! After you finished this step would/could you dry with your ceramic gloss as your drying off the car?
Yes
Pan sent me. Great video learned a lot.
Thanks for coming
During the winter months of Utah I often expose my car to a good amount of salt and just overall sludge. When it's warm enough to wash it, I've notice the ceramic coating is flat. Car Pro reset brings it back but I was wondering if I should use this to help decontaminate my vehicle after winter?
This is a great video to help restore water beading on your ceramic coated vehicle, you’ll want to utilize Iron Remover and our Water Spot Remover: ruclips.net/video/V66FkbKZzv4/видео.htmlsi=FfBS40Hx8ix7_kCu
Spraytown here too! 😆
Thank you.
I use a clay mitt with meguiars quiik detailer, then i use a clay bar, and then i wipe it down.
Good
excellentes explications 👍👍👏👏
Merci
Nice! Ty
Thank you.
Right that iron remover is not properly named, like most diseases we deal with
Short dwell time doesn’t help mind. Plus this car likely has cheap porous paint that’s been through many heat cold cycles so contamination will be deeply ingrained
Thank you.
If you’re going to polish afterwards no need for iron remover, I’ve tested this multiple times. If you clay then use iron remover you’ll have no reaction it’s just a waste of time, product and money same story for wheels, clean them and you’ll have no reaction.
Thank you.
Can i just use the iron remover as a lubricant for my clay towel and dry it with microfiber towel after?
Yes
I never use iron remover without a respirator on. Stuff eats my throat and lungs. Terrible. But so effective.
Nobody loves the smell that’s for sure
Using it at shown here and the fragrance will be less present
How does the iron attach so well that washing doesn't remove it especially from the back of the vehicle ?
Hot metal landing on plastic
Best intro ever.🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thank you.
If you don't have rinseless wash at the ready, could you get away with normal wash soap (either at normal dilution or a little stronger)?
Yes
How should you clean the decon towel to remove all the iron remover?
Simply rinse it out under water, then dry the towel with the perforated side up on the side of your bucket
What is the point of using an iron remover product at all, if all that it does is dissolve the surface rust on the iron particles stuck in the clear coat that you remove fully with the clay towel?
The iron particles will be removed either way. What difference makes it if the rust on the removed iron particles is dissolved or not?
The towel doesn’t remove the staining.
When you use the towel do you have to reapply your wax if you have not use a ceramic coating ?
Not a bad idea when you’re done and the Iron Remover is rinsed off to spray DIY Detail Ceramic Gloss and just dry the panel. It will lay down protection and serve as a drying aid so it’s very easy to do 👍
So how do you use it. I just bought the stuff. Looks like using the pad more than one time would be better. I got the time.
Once is sufficient
How do I get rid of tire shake that is baked onto my paint? Please help
Wash with DIY Detail All Clean
I really want diy iron remover but it’s been sold out for so long! 😭
It’s in transit from the factory to the warehouse as I write this
Great video guys! Do you ship Decon towel to Europe? Czech Republic? Cause RAG company towel is from clay and yours not.
We have many distributors
Https://diydetail.com/pages/distributors
Where I live we have water restrictions. Is it safe to just wipe off the iron remover instead of rinsing it?
Yes, but rinsing is best
Hey DIY Detail, i recently bought your quick beads product and was wondering do i use it every time i wash my car or periodically like the iron remover? Thanks.
You can absolutely use it after every wash, your choice!
I have surface rust forming in a very hard to reach spot. It's a motorcycle seat clamp on a painted gas tank. It will be hard to get the iron remover into the spot, it will be hard to wipe and even rinse it out of there. Would you recommend I still use it for this application? I need to stop the rust somehow.
I would be very grateful for a response as the motorcycle is Mint Condition other than this spot I didnt realize i was neglecting.
Yes, that would work.
@diydetailofficial Thanks!
Not exactly pertaining to this video but what is your method of drying the window sills so that you don’t re-wet your windows when you roll them down and back up
Compressed air, then roll them up and down, dry the window and hope for the best.
Awesome I will try that thank you
But was it even the iron remover that helped on Yvans side, or just the mechanical decontamination? We need other control with just decon towel and no iron remover to know if it’s even necessary.
It’s the combination of DIY Detail Iron Remover and Perforated Synthetic Decontamination Towel
Hey Yvan! When doing a Wash, clay, seal, when is it needed to use iron remover as a clay lube with decon towel instead of ceramic spray with Rinseless on the paint? I'm not quite sure when to use iron remover on the paint.
For a wash clay seal DIY Detail Iron Remover isn’t used. If DIY Detail Iron Remover is needed, wash, use the Perforated Synthetic Decontamination Towel with DIY Detail Iron Remover , rinse, then used DIY Detail Ceramic Gloss as a drying aid
@@diydetailofficial when do you know if it's needed to use the iron remover?
Tik tok detailer audience must be fuming that they don't see foam in every step of the wash
Lol
So I've been driving an '88 IROC for 36years and started using iron decon--on our other cars. I'm worried that the decon would be too harsh on and discolor the decals on the car. Would it be? I guess I could just purchase a bumper sticker and test on that.
No concerns.
@@diydetailofficial good to know, thanks
do you need to wash it again after that? like wash > iron remover > wash?
Simply rinse
Guessing less is more
You’ll need to watch to find out
Can we use any other iron remover with this towel?
You will have to test
@@diydetailofficial that’s not the right answer, if the towel is compatible with other products you can sell more products, what does your iron remover has that others don’t?
which manufacturer will say something like that, don't buy our product, buy someone else's product. of course it will work with other such products as well@@Pedroluvslupe
I just asked Chelsea on her rust remover video a question whats the diference between iron remover and rust remover and which one shuold be used in which case.
I have Carpro IronX and Koch Chemie RRR reactive rust remover and i just dont know when to use which one of them...i mean i know ironx is a great product for wheels and paint as a prepolish prep but should rust remover used aswell
Different Names for similar products. Give DIY Detail Iron Remover a try
@@diydetailofficial tx for advise...i am buying car care products anyway so why not to try some quality DIY....keep up with good work guys👍
Thank you.
Can any iron remover be used in the same fashion? I am going to buy the DIY iron remover as soon as I finish my Carpro ironx but I think I will apply the same process. This is genius and saves a ton of time!
@@pattrentadue6230 we haven’t tested it. You will need to test by putting a drop or two on the Perforated Synthetic Decontamination Towel and observing the reaction.
Can you do this with a clay bar as well?
Yes, but there are more risks
How would you address a clogged ceramic coating ?
DIY Detail Water Spot Remover
@@diydetailofficial can I ask why that instead of a iron remover as an example?
Can I use a clay block?
Yes
I just follow the products instructions
Good call 👍
Can i wipe it with microfiber towel?
It’s best to rinse
How much for a gallon
diydetail.com/products/iron-remover
@@diydetailofficial how does it compare with magic wheel cleaner from KC?
I’ve seen you talk about using the gold standard to abrade an old coating before putting on a new coating. Would you use the red pad for that to maintain the best finish possible? Or would that not have enough cut
It will have enough cut. It really depends on whether you’re getting the desired visual finish at that point. If it looks good to you, great. If you’re wanting to go after some swirls at the same time perhaps you go for yellow waffle. Up to you
Hi
Is this method only for diy detail iron remover?
A few others on the market can used , but with less effectiveness.
@@diydetailofficialUsing this method with Adam's Iron Remover, or any other, will it damage my paint?
You just made Nick's day! 😅
Lol
Would this synthetic clay towel cause marring, because I dont have a polisher so not sure if I can do this step and not polish and not cause marring?
When following our instructions, no
Is it the same process for wheels. Wash then use iron remover?
Yes
May i use your way with any clay mitt?
No, some are too abrasive, and not all work with DIY Detail Iron Remover
Is the towel safe on chrome like below the window, etc.
Yes
is this iron remover specific to your guys product or can i use another brand the same way ?
It’s specific to DIY Detail Iron Remover
Acid wash!!! Boom done
That’s a lot more dangerous, and in some areas, not legal.
Was ist das für ein Tuch?
Perforated Synthetic Decontamination Towel
They're purple, not red.
Depends on the lighting
Hehe 😂 efficient vs expensive!
Indeed it is!
its smooth but now you marred all your paint and need to polish.
With our system, there’s no marring. Unlike clay, the Perforated Synthetic Decontamination Towel has no abrasives
Again iron remover will only remove the rust not the iron. Need a medium clay bar at least
The combination of the Perforated Synthetic Decontamination Towel and DIY Detail Iron Remover does a great job, without the damage done by the clay bar.
@diydetailofficial claybar will abrasion the surface which is not always a bad thing before polishing at least clay bars remove contamination
@davidkrysmalski5509 not everyone wants to polish
@diydetailofficial if you clay bar you should always polish not hand wax once the fillers are washed away you are still going to see what's left
You are contacting panels with IRON infested clay mitt?? As said above, time is required to allow the dissolving iron areas to work and for the pressure of the water to remove, otherwise you are basically just cleaning the car with steel wool??? Just charge for the product you use as that is how it is intended to be used, and how it works 🤦🏻♂️
This is how the DIY Detail Iron Remover and Perforated Synthetic Decontamination Towel were designed to be used. Try it for yourself.
Funnily, done the same (or similar) test right before this video. Even referred to Ivan in it: ruclips.net/video/cPnbaOsv4yI/видео.html 😂
Wow Thank you.
Thank you so much ❤❤❤
You're welcome 😊
Interested in the sap remover does it have a strong smell if I don’t have ventilation in garage? And second what do you sell for clay lubrications
No it doesn’t barely smell at all actually. And we recommend Iron Remover as our clay lubricant 👍bit.ly/3GfY4iM
@@diydetailofficial what else can be used for clay doesn’t that iron stuff smell inside the garage
The way we use it, no. We use less than 1 oz to do a car.
Here are the products you can use for clay lube
DIY Detail Rinseless Wash
DIY Detail Incredible Suds
DIY Detail Iron Remover
DIY Detail Quick Beads
DIY Detail Ceramic Gloss
I would rather clay bar for 2 hours than use sulfur skunk smelling disgusting iron removers!!!
With using the Perforated Synthetic Decontamination Towel the odour is greatly mitigated.
@@diydetailofficial really?
@@diydetailofficial hopefully i would rather smell shit then this obnoxious odor
@@diydetailofficial oh really?
Try it, you will be pleasantly surprised.
Is it possible to just use the clay towel and rinseless wash without Iron Remover? Or I imagine it depends on the current state of the paint?
Yes