Every JRPG Franchise Explained In 15 Minutes

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  • Опубликовано: 17 дек 2024

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  • @TagTheLegend
    @TagTheLegend  5 месяцев назад +83

    If there is anything you want to add about your favorite JRPG franchise feel free to do so below!
    Part 2 Is now available with all the other series: ruclips.net/video/2hAg9R-CmpA/видео.htmlsi=laxFGM53PwpciPN7

    • @max_reaver5548
      @max_reaver5548 5 месяцев назад +11

      Hi, you should also mention the Mana series.

    • @wilfridekoue1405
      @wilfridekoue1405 5 месяцев назад +11

      You forgot about Suikoden

    • @RussianGeorge
      @RussianGeorge 5 месяцев назад +3

      You missed TWEWY there boy.

    • @efinate002
      @efinate002 5 месяцев назад +1

      Senran kagura

    • @Poni5
      @Poni5 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@cobaltrequiem8980 the video said in the beginning games with only 3 or more entries

  • @aech7150
    @aech7150 5 месяцев назад +1011

    Aigis being the picture for etrian odyssey is just funny

    • @TagTheLegend
      @TagTheLegend  5 месяцев назад +166

      😂😂 that mistake is on me.

    • @blazingsword2578
      @blazingsword2578 5 месяцев назад +75

      ​@@TagTheLegendngl man you could've just had a single entry for just atlus lol. They only publish jrpgs to my knowledge. Not many are series but still lol

    • @XXXXD
      @XXXXD 5 месяцев назад

      @@blazingsword2578 >They only publish jrpgs to my knowledge they published so many non rpg games en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Atlus_games

    • @StarDragonJP
      @StarDragonJP 5 месяцев назад +49

      ​@TagTheLegend Well Persona Q is basically an Etrian Odyssey game with Persona characters.

    • @blazingsword2578
      @blazingsword2578 5 месяцев назад +24

      @StarDragonJP yeah but it would've been better to use an original character from the series not a character from a different one that has a spinoff

  • @federicogou
    @federicogou 5 месяцев назад +154

    I laughed hard at the "Pikachu, Charizard" part lol

  • @KirbsterBCalane2
    @KirbsterBCalane2 5 месяцев назад +290

    I think it should've also been mentioned that Dragon Quest (1986) came before Final Fantasy (1987). It should also be noted that DQ kickstarted the Turn-based JRPG genre we know today, paving the way for the creation of all the other turn-based console JRPGs that spawned due to it's success (Final Fantasy, Phantasy Star, Mother/EarthBound, and so on).

    • @hikarunkun
      @hikarunkun 5 месяцев назад +46

      I think it's fair to say DQ kickstarted not just Turn-based JRPG but JRPG as a whole

    • @StarkMaximum
      @StarkMaximum 5 месяцев назад +10

      For context, and this is something I need to be reminded frequently because I forget, Dragon Quest 3 and Final Fantasy 1 came out around the same time.

    • @adlibconstitution1609
      @adlibconstitution1609 5 месяцев назад +1

      I am on my 30's and as a kid I grew up with final fantasy popularity. It's correct to say final fantasy made turn base popular throughout the world and not dragon quest.

    • @KirbsterBCalane2
      @KirbsterBCalane2 5 месяцев назад +8

      @@adlibconstitution1609 Sure, but Final Fantasy owes it's existence to Dragon Quest, which made turn-based JRPGs popular in Japan. They both contributed something important to gaming history, so I'm not trying to diss FF or anything.

    • @thekingler4578
      @thekingler4578 4 месяца назад +3

      The Legend of Heroes first game (which oddly enough is not called The Legend of Heroes yet is the same series) Dragon Slayer 1 predates all of this however.

  • @MostFloofyFurret
    @MostFloofyFurret 5 месяцев назад +166

    The fact that Tales Of, Xenoblade, Fire Emblem, and Ys are all on here makes me so happy
    I know it's easy to find people online who like these things, but sometimes irl it feels like I'm the only one
    The Tales Of series has so much meaning to me, and I feel like it's so underated! This is coming from a person who has beaten five Tales games.
    I know, the fact I'm saying this has little to no meaning, but thank you for including this wonderful series in your video.

    • @TagTheLegend
      @TagTheLegend  5 месяцев назад +13

      Thank you so much for supporting the channel. We all love these games and I was extremely happy to talk about them.

    • @pedrobeckup456
      @pedrobeckup456 5 месяцев назад +4

      Xenoblade and Tales of the Abyss are my favorite RPGs

    • @TainoMoya
      @TainoMoya 5 месяцев назад +2

      same bruh Ys is so good n xenoblade

    • @adamnaroden9296
      @adamnaroden9296 5 месяцев назад +2

      Even the side Tales content is amazing. Tales of Crestoria's manga is ongoing and Tales of the Rays is going into offline mode in a couple weeks, with a major art book release upcoming, and the story is still being actively translated on the discord.

    • @Airlo-rk8wj
      @Airlo-rk8wj 5 месяцев назад +9

      None of my friends played Xenoblade or fire emblem so it kinda sucks cause I wanna talk to them about the games but I can't 😭

  • @mattwo7
    @mattwo7 5 месяцев назад +72

    4:54 The Velvet Room is based on the Cathedral of Shadows from the mainline SMT games, which itself is based on the Heretic Mansion from the first two Megami Tensei games (though the SNES remake of them replaced the demon who ran the mansion with Mido, the minister who runs the cathedral in the numbered SMT games and the first Majin Tensei game). Although SMTV instead has the World of Shadows and Majin Tensei II instead has the REMIX Station.

    • @nr2676
      @nr2676 5 месяцев назад +4

      And Devil Summoner has Goumaden

  • @joefigueroa8592
    @joefigueroa8592 5 месяцев назад +130

    No introduction just straight into it. I love it. Very well done video

  • @benzojamin4399
    @benzojamin4399 5 месяцев назад +94

    RIP Akira Toriyama. Too soon :(

  • @Rorshacked
    @Rorshacked 5 месяцев назад +37

    As someone who appreciates JRPG's but only played a few, I loved the quick rundown on a lot of the big franchises. Excellent video dude.

    • @Jordan3DS
      @Jordan3DS 4 месяца назад +2

      Which JRPGs have you played?

    • @Rorshacked
      @Rorshacked 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Jordan3DS FF76, 7, 10 and 15 (if 15 counts), Tales of Symphonia, about 20 hours of DQVIII. Started chrono trigger a long time ago. You?

  • @ominousflames14
    @ominousflames14 5 месяцев назад +209

    Yeah Suikoden series feels like a huge omission from this list, otherwise you got most of the popular jrpgs out there.

    • @perlichtman1562
      @perlichtman1562 5 месяцев назад +20

      @tbnwontpop8857True, but between current development for Konami of the upcoming Suikoden I and II remasters and the recent release of the spiritual successor Eiyuden Chronicle, it remains active and relevant despite the long gap since the last entry. I would have included it - but they definitely got most of the other popular JRPG series with at least three entries.

    • @TagTheLegend
      @TagTheLegend  5 месяцев назад +68

      I should have said it as opposed to putting it in a text bubble but I tried to limit it to active series. I plan to make a follow up targeting retro series.

    • @hhaammzzaattaarraaff3313
      @hhaammzzaattaarraaff3313 5 месяцев назад +2

      Department heaven and growlanser next please

    • @ausnik
      @ausnik 5 месяцев назад +4

      Went to watch, scanned the faces, didn't see Suikoden and saw the "advertised title". Immediately dismissed the video and no point watching. Just jumped in to see if anyone else commented on the lack of Suikoden and lo and behold it's at the very top.

    • @kdogg7882
      @kdogg7882 5 месяцев назад +5

      Not having Phantasy Star is a bigger one considering Phantasy Star has been around for almost 40 years and continues till now while Suikoden was two games many years ago

  • @pri4904
    @pri4904 5 месяцев назад +56

    My fave is the Yakuza series. All game are so funny with the best side quests and a high quality main story

    • @Jordan3DS
      @Jordan3DS 4 месяца назад +3

      It's still so crazy to me that Final Fantasy isn't an RPG these days while Yakuza is. It's like a complete reversal.

    • @cooltwittertag
      @cooltwittertag 2 месяца назад +5

      ​@@Jordan3DSyou realize that "rpg" means role playing game and not "turn based game"?

    • @Jordan3DS
      @Jordan3DS 2 месяца назад +4

      @@cooltwittertag Action RPG and RPG might as well be too different genres with how dissimilar they are. RPGs aren't just turn based, but its a genre that requires some form of limitation on direct control of the characters in order to foster strategy over brute reflexes. If you can dodge roll and have 100% control of your character, then it's not an RPG. Xenoblade is an RPG, for example, but Final Fantasy XVI isn't.

    • @cooltwittertag
      @cooltwittertag 2 месяца назад +4

      @@Jordan3DS you are describing strategy games now. All RPG means is that its a role playing game. The gameplay mechanics need to foster role playing (immersion through customization and upgrading your character). They do not need to be strategic or turn based. Game genres have an image problem because just like indie they are applied very broadly.

    • @Jordan3DS
      @Jordan3DS 2 месяца назад +2

      @@cooltwittertag That hasn't been what the genre is solely about for decades now. Look at games like Paper Mario: Sticker Star. You have zero customization or character growth, but it has RPG combat so it's still an RPG. Likewise, something like Nier has levels and weapons you can equip but it's much more of an action game than an RPG.
      Through your definition, the genre is incredibly broad and basically has no meaning. It's like saying "Action games are just games that need to have a lot of action in them, so therefore Super Mario Sunshine is an action game!"
      I think you should have an idea of how a game plays based on its genre. If you label both something like Strangers of Paradise and Octopath Traveler solely as RPGs because they both have character customization, you're ignoring the fact that the experiences they provide aren't similar in the slightest. Whereas if you label a game a first person shooter, you have a solid idea of how the game plays and what it's like. On that note, imagine calling Zelda an FPS because you can go into first person and shoot the bow sometimes, it's just silly.

  • @scro910
    @scro910 5 месяцев назад +88

    The tales series just hits different imo…..Symphonia was a great introduction for me. It was like “super smash bros: the RPG“ for me growing up.

    • @StarDragonJP
      @StarDragonJP 5 месяцев назад +7

      If only Lloyd was actually in Smash Bros.

    • @longlovelive77
      @longlovelive77 5 месяцев назад

      🎮❤🤔 I saw Scarlet Nexus is seemed to Tales of Xillia...

    • @sesshonuyasha
      @sesshonuyasha 2 месяца назад

      I used to get my brother to be player 2 so we could smash bosses together - heheh good times

  • @alphblishtarl9374
    @alphblishtarl9374 5 месяцев назад +37

    I’d say most Fire Emblem games are not standalone, but most can be played this way. Just do not play (New) Mystery or Radiant Dawn first (and Thracia spoils some of Genealogy).
    That Legend of Heroes explanation felt very safe which is fair lmao I’m surprised the gameplay wasn’t mentioned? Not only does the world expand each game, but technology is constantly progressing and this is shown best through the gameplay changes every new game.

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 5 месяцев назад +4

      FE3 has a retelling of FE1 and is thus an entirely valid starting point(At least if one can swallow the beyond clunky UI experience that it shares with 1 and 2)

    • @Jordan3DS
      @Jordan3DS 4 месяца назад

      ​@@lpfan4491Honestly I like original Mystery way more than New Mystery. The inclusion of the FE1 remake is cool and the visuals look so much better than New Mystery.

    • @magnusprime962
      @magnusprime962 2 месяца назад

      @@Jordan3DS Valid, but it is fair to say that the UI of New Mystery was better. They had more than a decade and several more games of experience to figure out what worked and what didn't. It doesn't make Kris' role in the plot better though.

    • @Jordan3DS
      @Jordan3DS 2 месяца назад

      @@magnusprime962 I mean sure, you can definitely argue that. But I feel like a more modern UI still isn't worth the butt ugly graphics, the asinine OC additions, or the poor gameplay balancing of adding the weapon triangle into a game not originally designed for it.
      It's kind of like Persona 3 Portable, where they added party member control which was a huge plus, but in every other way it was a massive step back from the PS2 version and thus not worth playing even with such an amazing QOL improvement.

  • @Kora_exe
    @Kora_exe 5 месяцев назад +198

    Shin megami tensei really deserves more respect guys

    • @boredgoddesstori6635
      @boredgoddesstori6635 5 месяцев назад +74

      Persona coming before SMT in this video was painful, honestly.
      Man SMT deserves so much more respect

    • @dey6942
      @dey6942 5 месяцев назад +40

      @@boredgoddesstori6635tbf, Persona is pretty much Atlus flagship series atp.

    • @EhurtAfy
      @EhurtAfy 5 месяцев назад +27

      Good news is with Vengeance on all platforms, it has the opportunity to become much more popular. Plus, it already sold 500,000 copies in first three days which is good. Even Persona used to be niche until Persona 5 came along with 5 million sales. Unfortunately, a lot of people will never like SMT. It's dark, depressing, and often difficult. Those are selling points for me, but not most. Very few people under 30 years old had access to SMT games before Nocturne Remaster (2020) and SMT V (2021) on Switch. Exceptions are 3DS owners, and a few older titles on PS3 and PS Vita

    • @si-level
      @si-level 5 месяцев назад +9

      Just let atlus remake the SMT I and make it accesible like SMT V.
      its gonna be wild especially with the first minute of the game...

    • @JRPG_Master
      @JRPG_Master 5 месяцев назад +9

      @@boredgoddesstori6635 Persona is a tier above in quality. Persona is ATLUS flagship title.

  • @Bacalao.
    @Bacalao. 5 месяцев назад +145

    Bruh, you all keep hating on the man. He made a very good video as an introduction for new Jrpg players. No vets like you. Some flaws but nicely done man. Hope you achieve the 20k, greetings from Argentina!

    • @Needwagon4Speedwagon
      @Needwagon4Speedwagon 5 месяцев назад +29

      "Hating" has come a long way from throwing insults and slurs to pointing out flaws in the most respectful manner lol

    • @Bacalao.
      @Bacalao. 5 месяцев назад +8

      @@Needwagon4Speedwagon Sorry, my english is not that good... Buy there are some people... man, they are disrespectful.

    • @Destroyersoul-e9x
      @Destroyersoul-e9x 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@Bacalao. Los norteamericanos son mandados a hacer para criticar videos de juegos o cosas asi jajaja.

    • @Bacalao.
      @Bacalao. 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@Destroyersoul-e9x Hola capo, opino lo mismo. Se cagan en el trabajo de otros.

    • @Destroyersoul-e9x
      @Destroyersoul-e9x 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@Bacalao. Asi es, critican mas que los latinoamericanos.

  • @BLAZER_VA
    @BLAZER_VA 5 месяцев назад +14

    Ys, Legend of Heroes and tales of series are beyond amazing

    • @krystiandabrowski1787
      @krystiandabrowski1787 22 дня назад

      YS, played only IX and couldn't wait to play X, but then when I started Nordic I asked myself: "why is it so bad compared to Monstrum Nox", and I am telling even about technical aspect of the game. Playing Nordic I felt like I am playing bad port from Nintendo Switch with locked FPS at 24.
      Legend of Heroes, I loved Cold Steel Arc plus Trials Into Reverie, from the begining. Couldn't wait for Dawnbreaker. After 10h into Dawnbreaker decided to drop it. Why? Because the new fighting system for me was implemented very bad I liked the refreshed old turn based fight but the real time fight, oh god what a shit it was. Now I am playing Metaphor Refantazio and it's much, much better in this game. Probably I will play this Arc after all of the games of it will be released but it won't be a pleasure journey.
      Tales of, only played Arise with DLC and god dammit it was so good that I bought Berseria and Vesperia only to support company and I don't even plan to play them because after Arise they look ugly for me. Waiting for another game in this series and I pray that it won't be the same as for YS and Legend of Heroes series.

    • @shutup1037
      @shutup1037 6 дней назад

      ​@@krystiandabrowski1787imagine not playing the better tales while playing the worse one. Bad taste

  • @max_reaver5548
    @max_reaver5548 5 месяцев назад +233

    You forgot the Mana series? ...

    • @perlichtman1562
      @perlichtman1562 5 месяцев назад +9

      Yup.

    • @peterkozlowski4377
      @peterkozlowski4377 5 месяцев назад +21

      @@perlichtman1562 Could be a part 2 of a continuing series of videos? That said, nice simplified breakdown for beginners looking for a quick overview of the individual series. Good job in doing so.

    • @eldickboygrande
      @eldickboygrande 5 месяцев назад

      Weird way to spell "Phantasy Star"

    • @azuarc
      @azuarc 5 месяцев назад

      They're not JRPGs. No turn-based combat.

    • @Rsreniko
      @Rsreniko 5 месяцев назад +41

      ​@@azuarc Kingdon Hearts was far from turn based

  • @DragonKingZero
    @DragonKingZero 5 месяцев назад +9

    Another aspect of the Tales series is how its plots tend to be built around a specific concept, theme, or trope...which the plots then suddenly (and sometimes rather brutally) deconstruct.

  • @Kazumi_Yososhi
    @Kazumi_Yososhi 29 дней назад +3

    Thank you so much for talking about Disgaea! It's such a great franchise which unfortunately is very underrated. This series deserve more attention.

  • @s-wo8781
    @s-wo8781 5 месяцев назад +25

    Why is Aigis used as the portait for Etrian Odyssey?

    • @thegreatleaderjimpickens7919
      @thegreatleaderjimpickens7919 5 месяцев назад +13

      Marketing maybe? The newest origin collection comes with persona characters portraits. Also, there is no single most iconic character in the series anyway, so using Aegis' portrait is a sensible idea to attract more people.

    • @Eclin
      @Eclin 5 месяцев назад +4

      well, they are both owned by Atlus ao why not? Persona also had a sequal game in Etrian odyssey style with PersonaQ.

    • @s-wo8781
      @s-wo8781 5 месяцев назад +9

      @@Eclin Because it's not the same game. I wouldn't use a picture of Sora for Final Fantasy.

    • @TagTheLegend
      @TagTheLegend  5 месяцев назад +10

      That’s a mistake on my part honestly. I’ll try and be better in the future.

    • @docnightmares8291
      @docnightmares8291 5 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@s-wo8781It's not that big of a deal buddy

  • @Ar0474
    @Ar0474 2 месяца назад +1

    This is probably my favorite video on RUclips,no joke, pretty much highlighted all the major franchises i love dearly from Final Fantasy, Shin Megami Tensei, Legend of Heroes, etc.

  • @Evilriku13
    @Evilriku13 5 месяцев назад +6

    While talking about Star Ocean, you could have also mentioned at the end of that segment that that series is actually connected, or was connected rather, to the Tales of Franchise due to Wolf team first working on ToP, getting disrupted by Namco and then leaving nearly completly with the whole team to create Tri-Ace with Enix (I might be wrong thereif Tri-Ace was created after but it's been a bit messy there) as a publisher so the reason why there are some similiar beats and themes and say cooking and other specifics that are usually very unusual in the RPG genre come up, then it is because of their relationship to the Tales of Franchise in the 90s.

  • @Evilriku13
    @Evilriku13 5 месяцев назад +6

    8:40 well actually.. the travel log you tlak about is also a more modern feature of the Ys series. Infact, it wasn't a thing pre Ys 7 iirc, where the storyline was always revolving around the Eldeen and how they disappeared from the surface, which led Adol ever since the first game around to look to help the people he mets along the way, from simple retrieving of some jewelry, to some flowers up to silver bells or rings and wands that let you transform for example into a Roo for puzzle solving for example (and or worldbuilding) or casting magic that helps Adol on his journey.
    As much as I am happy you mention the somewhat known bump combat: I kinda wish you had mentioned the pre team fight oriented hack & slash titles in the series, aka the ark engine or three swords combat titles which are Ys 3's remake, Ys 6 - Ark of Napisthim and Ys Origin, which also appear different to people due to the difficulty being quite higher in compare to what modern Ys games do to the player as modern combat, even on the highest difficulty setting, is either getting oneshotted or wannabe-Dark Souls, sadly (which happened due to the target demographic group being changed as the originally PC focused company Falcom has gone into console game development due to japan's economy not really doing them any favors, see ZWEI2's poor sales for such an astonishing well crafted charming RPG where you also play as two characters basically at once).

  • @ChloeCommentss
    @ChloeCommentss Месяц назад +3

    This video is also known as, games to find a wide range of music from whether for RUclips or just life, istg pls listen to most of these OSTs

  • @Ragefat
    @Ragefat 5 месяцев назад +2

    All around a good summary of the franchises, nice work.
    I would've just recommended you put "active JRPG franchise" in the title as it would be a mostly clearer picture of the video, I say mostly because as much as I love Valkyria Chronicles I think we can sadly consider it done at the moment, as other comments mentioned the Mana series would've been a better candidate for it's place.

  • @kpp28
    @kpp28 2 месяца назад +1

    Great intro! Heres one more: bravely default series. Great character, great combat system, expansive class system, great voice acting, standard but satisfying story with some great plot twists

  • @ReanXAlisa
    @ReanXAlisa 5 месяцев назад +6

    REAN BEAN HAS BEEN SEEN.
    Love the roundup broski

  • @raed42
    @raed42 5 месяцев назад +47

    If you made part 2 one day. Don’t forget to add Wild arms series 🤠

    • @TagTheLegend
      @TagTheLegend  5 месяцев назад +17

      Part 2 is in the works and I’ll 1000% have it there!

    • @EhurtAfy
      @EhurtAfy 5 месяцев назад +5

      For what it's worth, Wild Arms is #58 on Wikipedia's list of Best-selling Eastern RPG franchises. Sales don't mean everything, but there's simply a lot of good JRPG series

    • @mitchells2003
      @mitchells2003 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@TagTheLegendGlad to hear it. WA is my favorite series and individual game. Also hope to see Seiken Densetsu in that video.

  • @crunchy303
    @crunchy303 5 месяцев назад +63

    As a diehard FF and Persona fan, watching this video felt so good

    • @TagTheLegend
      @TagTheLegend  5 месяцев назад +6

      I’m happy you enjoyed it! Thanks for supporting the video 🙏

    • @Chunky.monkey69420
      @Chunky.monkey69420 5 месяцев назад +6

      You gotta play nocturne bro, I know smt looks super bleak and depressing but I enjoyed smt nocturne a lot more than persona 5 royal. Smt is a, make your own fun series lol

    • @yamummyyummy4785
      @yamummyyummy4785 5 месяцев назад +4

      know what'll feel even better? actually playing a real megaten game

    • @Jordan3DS
      @Jordan3DS 4 месяца назад +2

      I'm a diehard FF fan up to a certain point, but sadly the series hasn't been high quality in years

    • @Chunky.monkey69420
      @Chunky.monkey69420 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Jordan3DS really? I just think the ending’s to the games have sucked the last few years lol, I want a happy ending, 16 had great combat lol

  • @a.kzockt4546
    @a.kzockt4546 5 месяцев назад +8

    I LOVE ATLUS! Etrian Odyssey is my most favourite DS Series and I have been in love with SMT since the Digital Devil saga! And Persona is just amazing, I spend most days and nights binging through Palaces after dungeons after dungeons. ALSO! I love this video, as someone who played most of what you´ve shown, it is amazing how gave an overview of the games in a detailed yet quick manner and showing the viewers new games they might enjoy!

    • @Jordan3DS
      @Jordan3DS 4 месяца назад

      Have you played Persona 1 and 2? If not then definitely check them out!
      It's funny because years ago I didn't like Etrian Odyssey because it had no story and you created your own party, but a few years back I tried the series out again and fell in love with it! Easily the best dungeon crawler franchise ever

  • @Jordan3DS
    @Jordan3DS 4 месяца назад +3

    Props for actually having SaGa and Disgaea in the thumbnail

  • @ChikaJihyo
    @ChikaJihyo 5 месяцев назад +8

    One of my favourite JRPG related videos ever! Amazing job

  • @boredgoddesstori6635
    @boredgoddesstori6635 5 месяцев назад +70

    Kind of wish you didn’t just include Xenoblade. The Franchise started way back with Xenogears in 1998. Then after that we had Xenosaga on the PS2 between 2002-2006.
    Also Xenoblade wasn‘t meant as a Xeno titles originally but later Games leaned more into it.
    While all 3 Xeno series are owned by different companies, they‘re still sort of connected and most players consider them as one large Franchise
    Also SMT wasn‘t the first Monster collector and the beginning of the series, it was Atlus’ Megami Tensei on the Famicom (NES) which was based on a trilogy of Novels. SMT released a few years later and then became the cornerstone of the larger Megami Tensei Franchise (the Shin in Shin Megami Tensei literally meaning „True“)

    • @EhurtAfy
      @EhurtAfy 5 месяцев назад +17

      Yeah for this kind of informational video, I agree on the Xeno terminology. At the same time, Xenoblade Chronicles is responsible for about 74% of Xeno series sales and there's been no good Xenosaga games for 20 years. There are simply too many newer 100+ hour JRPGs to play and especially for people under 30 years old, anything older than Xenoblade Chronicles is a hard sell so I can understand not even mentioning it

    • @boredgoddesstori6635
      @boredgoddesstori6635 5 месяцев назад +14

      @@EhurtAfy I mean, I‘m under 30 and played both Xenogears and the Xenosaga Trilogy.
      But most casual players probably won‘t go the extra mile of emulating or even buying the pre-Blade Xeno Games.
      Which is a big reason why I want HD Remasters or Remakes of Xenogears and the Xenosaga Trilogy

    • @EhurtAfy
      @EhurtAfy 5 месяцев назад +6

      @@boredgoddesstori6635 Agreed, yeah that'd be cool 👍

    • @coolguy48457
      @coolguy48457 5 месяцев назад +1

      Xenogears/saga and blade are not the same franchise, Xenogears was made by Squaresoft, Xenosaga was primairly made by Namco, which is why they own the series to this day, Namco sold monolith to Nintendo where they made a new series using the Xeno-name, they are not connected in any way, other than some money they paid to Namco to use KOS-MOS name and likeness. Basically, they are not a franchise.

    • @boredgoddesstori6635
      @boredgoddesstori6635 5 месяцев назад +11

      @@coolguy48457 Future Redeemed‘s radio says no

  • @UrsineBloke
    @UrsineBloke 25 дней назад +1

    Thank you, TagTheLegend. This is a great video.

  • @magnusprime962
    @magnusprime962 2 месяца назад +1

    6:30 A quick note for those interested in the Fire Emblem series; not every entry is standalone. There are some sequels, prequels, and even a midquel. Most are designed so that you can play them on their own, but if you want to play Game 4, Genealogy of the Holy War, unspoiled you should wait to play Game 5, Thracia 776, until afterward. The same goes for playing Radiant Dawn before Path of Radiance. If you want to avoid spoilers for older games in general you should wait to play the most recent entry, Engage. It was meant to be an anniversary celebration, so it pulled characters from across the series and explained their stories.
    This video's broader point about the series is mostly accurate; I just wanted to warn newcomers about the exceptions.

  • @Jaymo00
    @Jaymo00 2 месяца назад +1

    Final fantasy, dragon quest, fire emblem and kingdom hearts. So much of my childhood in one video 💚

  • @SonplaysMinEcraft
    @SonplaysMinEcraft 5 месяцев назад +116

    not the persona section being longer than the smt section

    • @RiTchieKII
      @RiTchieKII 5 месяцев назад +6

      Persona is much more popular mostly because of the social sim aspect. Weebs and Japanese people love dating online teenagers.

    • @Magik_Cloud495
      @Magik_Cloud495 5 месяцев назад +7

      Hey some of us are still teenagers (which lets be real is totally the target audience)​@@RiTchieKII

    • @YurieSnowie
      @YurieSnowie 5 месяцев назад +20

      Reasonable, just like comments above me, Persona is more well known than SMT, and I understand why most people are turned off by SMT

    • @RiTchieKII
      @RiTchieKII 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@Magik_Cloud495 that’s true, as much as I love persona replaying it now over the age of 20 is a bit different then i remember, still love it though. And there’s no denying the Japanese/asian market much prefers the high school setting.

    • @EpicTacoSenpai
      @EpicTacoSenpai 5 месяцев назад +12

      Yeah cause it ain't as popular. Get with the program bro

  • @Iyasenu
    @Iyasenu 5 месяцев назад +9

    Aigis is my favorite Yggdroid.

  • @MrSupersmash93
    @MrSupersmash93 5 месяцев назад +5

    Okay what are your thoughts on monster hunter and God Eater?
    Also my favs are Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Tales of, Persona, SMT, Kingdom Hearts, Ys, Atelier, Fire Emblem, Xenoblade Chronicles, Eterian Odyssey, Valkyria Chronicles and pokemon.

  • @FlyingFocs
    @FlyingFocs 5 месяцев назад +3

    I heard someone call Fire Emblem as “Anime Chess.”
    …yes.

    • @Jordan3DS
      @Jordan3DS 4 месяца назад +1

      Sounds like they've never heard of shogi, which is what it's actually based on xD
      I would probably describe it as "political war shogi"

  • @marksayosmejia7251
    @marksayosmejia7251 5 месяцев назад +2

    Im glad atelier was mentioned, but didappointed on how short it was. Good vid.

    • @Anim3Gamer
      @Anim3Gamer 5 месяцев назад +2

      Disappointed that Atelier Resnalina, the latest title, was not mentioned either. People think it’s just some side-mobile gacha game but it’s actually considered to be a main-line game unlike Nelke (which also isekai’d various Atelier characters to its universe.) Storyline picks up during the Weltex arc (which is where EN is on) and I hear it gets better from there.

    • @marksayosmejia7251
      @marksayosmejia7251 5 месяцев назад

      @@Anim3Gamer i dont even consider gacha games as mainline for atelier. nor the blue reflection sun game for BR.

  • @ircha
    @ircha 5 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome video!! 🎉

  • @threeswordssama
    @threeswordssama 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great video. Solid descriptions of each series.

  • @AlexR3237
    @AlexR3237 5 месяцев назад +4

    I wasn't expecting it to be brought up since it's pretty obscure in the US, but Super Robot Wars is a long running SRPG franchise like Fire Emblem. SRW features various mecha series in each game and has them cross over with each other with some original characters to create a new story. The most recent mainline release, 30, was released on Steam, and it alongside V, X, and T were also released on PS4 and Switch in Asia, but they all have official English translations.

    • @IrisGarland
      @IrisGarland Месяц назад

      I would LOVE to see Super Robot Wars included in later parts!

  • @y0av359
    @y0av359 5 месяцев назад +12

    Good video but it would have been nice if you recommended a game from each series for beginners

    • @TagTheLegend
      @TagTheLegend  5 месяцев назад +8

      Damn that would have been a good idea. I May double back and do that in a separate video

    • @KrimsonKattYT
      @KrimsonKattYT 5 месяцев назад +3

      Final Fantasy IV (GBA or PSP versions) is a great RPG to start with for beginners. I recommend that over basically anything else. You can easily emulate it on a smartphone or PC.

    • @TainoMoya
      @TainoMoya 5 месяцев назад +2

      for Ys i recommend Ys 8
      considered the best by many fans
      fire emblem i recommend three houses
      xenoblade i recommend 1 or 3
      i petsonally started with 2 but its controversial
      nier i recommend automata
      smt nocturne or 5 vengeance
      kingdom hearts kh 1, 2 is considered the best but they all are connected so u need to know previous games
      persona i recommend 5 royale

  • @sirbradfordofhousejones
    @sirbradfordofhousejones 5 месяцев назад +8

    This was a great video- nice to get a brief explanation on some series I haven’t tried yet. Pokémon cracked me up 😝

  • @youngotterking5450
    @youngotterking5450 Месяц назад

    Great video! Only series I was surprised not to see was breath of fire

  • @A.S.Bridges
    @A.S.Bridges 5 месяцев назад +1

    Cool video. Very succinct and good for new comers. That's quite the ambitious title though. With so many fantastic JRPG series out there, it's a large undertaking to cover them all comprehensively in a short amount of time (notable omissions: Breath of Fire, Secret of Mana, Suikoden, etc). However, you did a great job for what you did cover. Well done.

  • @julieb3240
    @julieb3240 5 месяцев назад +4

    Ohhhh, tell me how you really feel about Pokemon. 😂 10:27
    Great video! You did an awesome job detailing the core elements of these great JRPG franchises. 😁

  • @ReversedJrpgs
    @ReversedJrpgs 5 месяцев назад +12

    Such a great video, anyone mulling over which JRPG they should start with should start with this vid!
    Some relevant series you missed:
    -Drakengard/Nier
    -Digimon World
    -Rune Factory
    -Yakuza/Like a Dragon

  • @manutdfan231
    @manutdfan231 5 месяцев назад +1

    Greay video! Alot of the info was surface level but these rpgs have so much detail that its hard to fit it all into 15 min lol. For a general idea of them? I thought it was great!

  • @rexmon2592
    @rexmon2592 5 месяцев назад +5

    The legend of heroes on 🔝 fr no other series has ever done what it’s doing. It’s really something special and can’t be compared to the rest

    • @mailowmailow5207
      @mailowmailow5207 4 месяца назад +1

      nah man it's really cheap crap for these JRPG nerds who have no standard as long as its turn-based

  • @jonasqueiroz1326
    @jonasqueiroz1326 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great video, bro! As a passerby in the genre, this get me excited to get to these.

  • @Gabe_29
    @Gabe_29 5 месяцев назад +2

    Great video. Still, I imagine it's quite difficult to come up with these lists. Many games may be overlooked like DrakeNieR (if you count those games a JRPG), the Mana series, Bravely Default and even forgotten ones like Golden Sun, Wild Arms, Phantasy Star, Summon Night... and the list goes on 😅

  • @twitchtubeboyjamie
    @twitchtubeboyjamie 5 месяцев назад +3

    Another reoccuring thing in Dragon Quest is the Slime, the most important creature in Dragon Quest history.

  • @Outshinedsg
    @Outshinedsg 2 месяца назад

    Good, concise video. When you make the vintage video of series that are less active nowadays, I would encourage you to include Shining Force and Phantasy Star.

  • @clay.invictus
    @clay.invictus 4 месяца назад +1

    Pretty solid video, mate.

  • @bernerdchen
    @bernerdchen Месяц назад

    i love this video. Ive been wanting to start the trails series. Kind of overwhelming

  • @freshthegreat
    @freshthegreat 19 дней назад +1

    Great video and writing.

    • @TagTheLegend
      @TagTheLegend  16 дней назад

      Thank you! I’m glad you liked it.

  • @freddiehoch1954
    @freddiehoch1954 19 дней назад +1

    This is awesome!! Thank you!!

  • @orochirel
    @orochirel Месяц назад

    Thank you for including The legend of heroes/Kiseki 🙏 I’m currently investing a lot following those series, I’m starting cold steel after finishing the other 5 previous games

  • @gustavooliveiramartins2650
    @gustavooliveiramartins2650 5 месяцев назад +6

    Very informative. Thank you!

  • @jackinthebox1993
    @jackinthebox1993 Месяц назад

    Damn, Pokemon not even having its own time stamp is crazy work

  • @Ealstrom
    @Ealstrom Месяц назад

    great video, I've heard of quite a few of them along the years but never bothered to look them up

  • @Bargate
    @Bargate 5 месяцев назад +10

    I know you covered it very shortly in the video but not having a picture for Pokémon in the thumbnail for a JRPG video is crazy

  • @stephanies9735
    @stephanies9735 5 месяцев назад

    I’ve been trying to pick a series to jump into, and this was super helpful. Thanks!

  • @hhaammzzaattaarraaff3313
    @hhaammzzaattaarraaff3313 5 месяцев назад +3

    Here's a series of vaguely connected games called the Department haven series
    With four games in total it would really benefit from a video like this since it's very niche even by JRPGs standard
    Those titles are quite unique and very hard compared to genre contemporary my favourite game is
    Knights in the nightmare
    I'm certain you won't find something like it

    • @KrimsonKattYT
      @KrimsonKattYT 5 месяцев назад +3

      That's the series Rivera the Promised Land is part of, right? That final boss theme rocks!

    • @hhaammzzaattaarraaff3313
      @hhaammzzaattaarraaff3313 5 месяцев назад +1

      All the games have banger music
      Knights in the nightmare is my favourite
      Sorry for the late response hope you read it it's not every day I come across a fan of department heaven fan

  • @makotoniijima9211
    @makotoniijima9211 5 месяцев назад +1

    cool video, perfect length for each one

  • @timmieslimmie
    @timmieslimmie 5 месяцев назад +6

    What is persona Q aigis doing in etrian odyssey??

  • @SickVoid
    @SickVoid Месяц назад

    So, why is Aigis the icon for Etrian Odyssey even though she is a persona character and only technically appears in etrian oddyssey because of the crossover games Persona Q and Q2?

  • @stupidkirbyfan6615
    @stupidkirbyfan6615 5 месяцев назад +3

    Nice video but you got your chart wrong at Tales. Tales of Symphonia 2 is not a mainline title but Tales of Innocence is.

  • @theluminousone5883
    @theluminousone5883 5 месяцев назад +21

    Good video. Except for 2 major flaws
    1: Aegis was used for etrian in the thumbnail (sure, its Etrian 3 HD, but most people would think it's persona q)
    2:
    You said "EVERY" Right? then why no?
    - .Hack (Pronounced dot hack)
    -Little Tail Bronx (If you count Fuga, Solatorobo might be an rpg but Tail Concerto Isn't)
    -Yakuza (If you count its new direction with Like a Dragon & Infinite Wealth)
    -Sakura Wars
    -Class Of Heroes (If you count the Japanese-only games)
    -Suikoden
    -Rhapsody / Marl Kingdom (A musical adventure, 2, 3)
    -Tactics Ogre
    -Mercenaries Saga
    -Mystery Dungeon
    -Dark Souls (If you count JRPG as from Japan and not a theme)
    -Kings Field / Shadow Tower
    -Yo Kai Watch
    -Neptunia
    -GrowLanser
    -Death End Re;Quest (Technically counts, 3 and Code Xion are coming out)
    -Digimon Story
    -Akiba's (Trip 1 & 2, Beat)
    -Utawarerumono
    -Summon Night
    -Chrono (Trigger, Cross, Radical Dreamers)
    -Bravely (FF 4 heroes of light, Bravely Default, Second, II)
    -Ni No Kuni (1, 2, Cross worlds)
    -Grandia
    -Metal Max
    -Mother / Earthbound
    -Hydlide (if you count it... Rip AVGN fans)
    -Metabots
    -Valhalla Knights
    -DrakenGard / Neir
    -Megaman Battle Network
    -Dept Heaven (Riveria, Yggdra Union, Knights In the Nightmare, etc)
    -Lunar (Silver Star Story, Dragon Song, Etc)
    -Phantasy Star (1, 2, 3, 4)
    -Phantasy Star Online (Online, Universe, Online 2, Zero, Portable 1 & 2)
    -Agarest
    -Ar tonelico (1, 2, Qoga/3, Nosurge)
    -Kodelka / Shadow Hearts
    -Xanadu
    -Fairy Fencer (If you count AdventDarkForce as a new game and not a Re-release of the Original)
    -7th Dragon (if you count the japanese only games)
    -Cladun / ClassicDungeon (1, 2, Returns: This is Sengoku)
    -Xeno (Non-blade AKA: Saga & Gears)
    -Legend of heroes (Non-Trails)
    -Dungeon Travelers (Barely SFW, 1, 2, and 2-2)
    -All of the NSFW ones (which will be omitted for obvious reasons)
    -All of the Japanese Only ones (ok..ok... i'm kinda joking here)
    -Breath Of Fire
    -Honkai (If you count JRPG as a theme and not From Japan)
    -Madou Monogatari (What Puyo Puyo Spun off from)
    -Wizardry (HEAVY TECHNICALITY due to all of the japan games despite the fact that it came from the USA and inspired most RPG games)
    -Elminage (Made by the *japanese* guys who made Wizardry Empire, some of it is japanese only though)
    -Mana (Secret of Mana, etc)
    -Popolocrois
    -Rune Factory
    and MANY... MANY... MORE

    • @JoacoG11
      @JoacoG11 5 месяцев назад +10

      Do you want bro to spend his entire life editing

    • @puskinteojones8832
      @puskinteojones8832 5 месяцев назад +2

      His description provides an explanation for his intent and goals in this video (if you wouldve read it). He made a good video summarizing a large chunk of the most popular jrpgs ever made for beginners. If you want a video giving information that anyone could get from a quick google search about games from your list (quite a few of which are more than fairly niche, haven't received a new installment for many newcomers entire lifespans, or never received much critical acclaim in the first place) then make your own video where you won't make abhorrent mistakes like putting a character who appears in a game series in said series' portrait.

    • @haaxxx9
      @haaxxx9 5 месяцев назад +1

      You forgot to add "Threads of fate" by square-soft.
      Does MMORPG's count as well? If so then get listing you noob

    • @Jordan3DS
      @Jordan3DS 4 месяца назад

      Dude, you are badass. You know a ton of RPG series!

    • @mathinho1237
      @mathinho1237 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@Jordan3DSthat's the opposity of badass

  • @ytyler2012
    @ytyler2012 5 месяцев назад +2

    If you do a part 2, i would recommend the Like a Dragon Series being included.

  • @GameKnight404
    @GameKnight404 5 месяцев назад +4

    The Bravely Series:
    Bravely Default
    Bravely Second
    Bravely Default II
    Default 1 and Second are 3Ds games that have 1 story while Default II is on the Switch and is its own self contained story. Their combat system is genuinely incredible with you being able to save and spend multiple turns.

    • @abraveastronaut
      @abraveastronaut 5 месяцев назад +2

      It was also pretty clearly at least part of the inspiration for the battle system in Octopath Traveler.

    • @GameKnight404
      @GameKnight404 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@abraveastronaut Definitely and It’s what made me love the Octopath Traveler games as much as I did.

    • @Jordan3DS
      @Jordan3DS 4 месяца назад +3

      ​@@abraveastronautYeah, both series were made by the same guy (Asano)

    • @TheLukasz032
      @TheLukasz032 2 месяца назад +1

      They're all also on Steam :)

    • @shadowrider6578
      @shadowrider6578 25 дней назад

      Not the nekolea pfp!!

  • @raidomegnuo2868
    @raidomegnuo2868 5 месяцев назад +4

    1:44 "creator of Dragon Ball Z". Why couldn't people just say "Dragon Ball" god freaking damn it. It started off more comically while still being action and more martial artist oriented.

  • @jensennc94
    @jensennc94 5 месяцев назад +2

    Legend of Heroes Trails series is probably one of the only two (correct me if I'm wrong) series that is still running and continuing besides from Kingdom Hearts.
    A very long series to get into if you want to understand the whole story of different characters/perspective/continents in the same world. Like a really long anime with 500+ episodes that is still going and going and going. Iirc, the current installment (12th installments) just hits the 50% of the overall story, according to the game designer.
    And your breakdown of it was so... short and somehow precise 😂 It's my favorite series though.

    • @JRPGforlife
      @JRPGforlife 3 месяца назад

      At least Trails has an end in sight tho maybe within the next 5 years or so if what Kondo said the series is at 90% completion with Kai no Kiseki is true, Kingdom hearts just keeps going lmao

  • @587DeathKing
    @587DeathKing Месяц назад

    It's rather nice to see a video giving brief overviews about certain RPG series without cynicism or snark.

  • @revya4294
    @revya4294 5 месяцев назад +1

    I really wish Disgaea spin-off games had their own category. They take on completely differently art styles yet love to reference the Disgaea series or even straight up have Crossover characters from the Disgaea series enter their games. You’ll definitely find some underrated gems like Phantom Brave, Soul Nomad, Phantom kingdom, The witch and the hundred knight, etc

    • @Jordan3DS
      @Jordan3DS 4 месяца назад

      They're not really spinoffs, just standalone games made by the same company.

  • @abraveastronaut
    @abraveastronaut 5 месяцев назад +2

    I'm always pleasantly surprised when Etrian Odyssey gets a mention.

    • @Jordan3DS
      @Jordan3DS 4 месяца назад +1

      I can't wait to finally see the next game!

  • @TheUltimaGhost
    @TheUltimaGhost 5 месяцев назад +5

    Don't forget Koudelka/Shadow hearts if theres a part 2

  • @chukyuniqul
    @chukyuniqul 5 месяцев назад +1

    I think we could've done with persona being under the SMT umbrella and replacing it with, say, the shadowhearts series (+koudelka).

  • @moneymaker8815
    @moneymaker8815 5 месяцев назад +2

    Was waiting for Phantasy Star :) Hopefully in Pt2?

  • @alcothzeither261
    @alcothzeither261 5 месяцев назад +3

    Kiseki & Ys (Broadly speaking, Falcom) mention, based as all hell

  • @electricchair
    @electricchair 5 месяцев назад +2

    wonderfully explained and consice. great video :)

  • @MitchDJohn
    @MitchDJohn 5 месяцев назад

    Great video, just one correction on Valkyria: You don't play as the Gallian Militia in every game. In Valkyria 2 you take control of students a Military Academy, Valkyria 3 you play as an offshoot unit consisting of convicts and undesirables to take on seemingly impossible missions and in Valkyria 4 you play as the Federation during Operation Northern Cross

  • @Gawxy_03
    @Gawxy_03 2 месяца назад

    Great video, although I already know most of the JRPG franchises in this video there were some I didn't, I'll give Saga and The Legend Of Heros a try.

  • @TainoMoya
    @TainoMoya 5 месяцев назад +2

    YS SERIES PEAK thank you for mentioning it

    • @Jordan3DS
      @Jordan3DS 4 месяца назад

      Hell yeah, can't wait for Ys X!

  • @snazzydrew
    @snazzydrew 5 месяцев назад +18

    I'm just happy that SaGa was included!

    • @Jordan3DS
      @Jordan3DS 4 месяца назад

      Same! I really can't wait for the Romancing SaGa 2 remake :D

  • @MKIVD
    @MKIVD 5 месяцев назад +1

    Trails is the way if you want to be invested in a continuing story -- and a good story, I might add

  • @autusticrat
    @autusticrat 2 месяца назад

    Food video broski. Good primer to get people into the genre

  • @evaboeglin5690
    @evaboeglin5690 5 месяцев назад

    RIP God Eater. You could’ve been one of the greats if Bamco hadn’t pulled an Andy Toy Story “I don’t wanna play with you anymore”

  • @ObeliskTGS
    @ObeliskTGS 5 месяцев назад +1

    If there is a part 2 I'm hoping Super Robot Wars/Taisen gets an honourable mention. At 30 years old and dozens of games it's a Mecha fan's dream franchise.

  • @genocydecutter9817
    @genocydecutter9817 5 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent video but where are the Mana series games?

    • @TagTheLegend
      @TagTheLegend  5 месяцев назад +1

      I had to include them in part 2

  • @aldanduff5257
    @aldanduff5257 2 месяца назад

    Can someone tell me what FE game was the one from 06:47 was?

  • @Creeper-ez4kn
    @Creeper-ez4kn 3 месяца назад +1

    Can i just say that im glad you put Xenoblade x clips in here

  • @CutlassCraft
    @CutlassCraft 4 месяца назад +1

    I literally lol'd when you got to Pokémon 🤣

  • @kpp28
    @kpp28 2 месяца назад +1

    Im so happy valkyria is on the list 😭😭 hope we get something new soon, at least 2 or 3 remastered

  • @Ren.Amamiya.3.20
    @Ren.Amamiya.3.20 3 месяца назад +2

    Love the video, bro. But I wish you didn't speak in questions, but I know you can improve on future videos.

    • @sleepy_chronotype
      @sleepy_chronotype 2 месяца назад

      Yes Thanks You, I thought I was the only one. My man is asking 3 questions per sentence

  • @patricklatham3897
    @patricklatham3897 5 месяцев назад +1

    The Mana series is fairly obscure with a cult following. It started as an action based Final Fantasy like before it transitioned into its new identity. All games have a plot surrounding a limited supply of mana, a tree that supplies the mana, a sword that acts as the conduit, someone dying by the end, usually a girl as a sacrificial offering, monsters that look cuddlier than basic Kirby enemies, and later on up to eight elements including the obscure moon and wood ones. Some earlier games featured local multi-player, spinoffs were hit-or-miss experimental variations of the usual formula, and the music is usually good on the ears overall. When Secret of Mana was being made, limited cart space led to alot of stuff being cut and pit into either the sequel or Chrono Trigger.

    • @Jordan3DS
      @Jordan3DS 4 месяца назад

      Was it meant to be a FF, though? In Japan the series was always its own thing

    • @patricklatham3897
      @patricklatham3897 4 месяца назад

      @@Jordan3DS I was refering to the aesthetic and the references, right down to picking a stat change named after an FF1 class. The Dark Lord had the dark knight look. Julius' adventurer disguise was a red mage. Chocobos were still rideable in that game. You picked the stat buffs' Warrior Monk, Black Mage, and White Mage. The main character is basically the FF warrior in appearance and way of fighting. Until you get magic.

  • @Haganeren
    @Haganeren 5 месяцев назад

    Not a single image of the Famicom version of all those games ?
    Awwwwwwww, it's so satisfying to see them be more and more beautiful as the script is told.