MLM HORROR STORIES #78 | Sneaking Mary Kay to a 12 year old
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My heart BROKE listening to the martial art student going into an interview set up by her mentor and finding out it's just the scumbag wife's lies.
I wonder what happened to that marriage. My husband might well divorce me if I got into an mlm and started trying to pitch it to his associates, clients and their families.
Also, collegen? That is used for skin elasticity, aka wrinkles. I don't get why kids would need that. It was probably just something they made up to sell collegen to kids that don't need it.
There are things that promote muscle building and joint help like glucosamine and a well balanced diet with proper amount of protein. Also, there are good exercises including yoga to help with mobility and joint health.
(I am a biomedical engineer who learned about this in college, I also have joint issues and was recommended glucosamine by my doctor, it is just a supplement)
That made me really sad because sounds like they completely quit martial arts because of this horrific experience.
What sucks more is despite going on to bar their wife from pitching and selling the mlm in the school they didn’t have the balls to apologize to them for tricking her
I would be so furious if a stranger put their foot in my door to prevent me from shutting it. Like I’d probably do it even harder and squish their foot on purpose lmao
I am surprised that there have been no afab people or women who have freaked out and beat the huns with a broom or something. People coming into your house when you are femine and you are alone is super dangerous.
It may be that we as a society teach women that their safety isn't valid if it hurts someone's feelings and we should just take it.
I'd warn them that my dogs have a command to attack. Even though they don't and are super friendly dopes. I do wonder if maybe the chow mix especially would get aggressive if she saw me scared.
Not gonna lie, if I can't keep or force them out, I'd probably get scared enough to go into my dad's room and pull a gun on them and order them out, and I'm probably not the only person who would do this. Their tactics not only put the homeowner at risk, but they could probably put the salesmen at risk too, and not just for legal reasons.
@@Pipkiablo exactly! With the way the world is nowadays you can never be too careful!
Ive never had it happen but Im pretty sure my instinctive reaction would be to open it then slam it closed on their foot.
Hearing Zeke´s chirping on the back is so good for a monday morning!
It’ll never get old. Sometimes, it’s almost as he says « It’s awful right? » 😂😂😂
Yes, for sure Zeke is warning us to avoid those predatory MLMs.
Ikr! He’s so adorable 😸
He was so cute today!
I was suckered into selling Kirby vacuums and can confirm they train you to literally put your foot in the door.
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Despicable and predatory! Sorry you got suckered into that.
To the martial artist who didn’t get her black belt. I recommend finding a different studio that will respect your current rank and help you get your black. My instructor is in the same MLM as my mom, but she never mentions it to students, and I respect her so much. Taekwondo has been important to me my whole life, and I can’t imagine losing it over something like this. I really hope you are able to find another place that you feel good at!
Tkd is really popular. I had no issue moving schools when I moved from high school ot college. There are at least 4 in my old neighborhood independent from each other.
Yeah. As a 1st degree blackbelt myself, I couldn't imagine the pain they went through. My dojo is my life.
I have a new little tabby boy addition to the family and he was very confused by the sound of Zeke and started crying back at him so right now we have a chorus on cats hating MLMs.
That's adorable 🥹🩵
Aww and I stand behind this choirs! ❤
I wouldn't be surprised if, not only are Kirby sales reps trained to put their foot in the door, but if the rationale for doing so is to deliberately intimidate women who are the ones most likely to be at home. I am waiting for the day when the news headline is "Kirby salesman killed by woman in attempted home invasion".
If a salesman tries to force his way in the door, I will run to the kitchen for a butcher knife. I've seen too many of these to think that's paranoid.
Oh, for sure. If it isn't outright said, I bet it is implied.
When my grandma was diagnosed with lung cancer in 2015, I was bombarded with oil huns trying to sell me things. I even bought into them because desperate people do desperate things I guess 😢
My grandma passed right before my daughter was born in 2016. Not even the best cancer center in the country was able to save her life..
I’ll never forget their predatory behavior.
I'm sorry to hear that. I cannot even imagine what my reaction would have been if someone did that when my BF was dying from lung cancer. I was already staunchly anti mlm so I think I would have been ready to burn the world down at that point. I hate that they try to take advantage of such difficult situations.
I am so sorry you had to go through that.
I have to deal with that from having just anxiety and depression. I can't imagine having cancer and dealing with that.
Lung cancer is horrible and I think it's just harder to treat because of the structure of the lungs and where tumors can be located. My best friend had the tumor in an inoperable location, and the best treatments didn't work. So sorry for the loss of your grandma.
The Kirby thing is frightening. I had that happen with 3 guys when I was in college. They were selling magazine subscriptions b/c they wanted to “earn a trip, and didn’t I want to help?”
The first one followed me around on campus at night until I signed up. The second came to my apartment and wouldn’t take his foot out of the door. The third followed me around my apartment complex until I threatened to blow a r@pe whistle.
I just slammed the door without explanation to a couple more that showed up at my home in later years. It is such predatory activity, and there is no need to be polite. If they call you a ******* b*tch on their way out, you’ve handled the situation correctly. Call the police if they loiter.
Operations on the frontal lobe are infamous for changing patient's behaviour, and usually in a negative way. It's also been shown to happen to athletes who suffer severe concussions, like football players and boxers. Love your videos Hannah, keep up the great work.
Zeke's trilling always makes me happy!
My Dad was diagnosed with Mesothelioma 21 days before he died from it. When we found out how widespread the cancer had spread through his body, his change in personality the previous couple of years all of a sudden made sense. I cannot imagine how much his personality would have changed if he'd had a brain tumor removed. I'm so sorry for that one daughter whose Dad changed so drastically. My heart goes out to her.
Can we talk about how the aunt in the last story was setting her young niece up to be abused? Like I don't know if that person realizes how lucky they are that someone else with even less good intentions for them found out they had been primed to hide things from their mother like that... It's just really scary to think about what kind of situation they could have found themselves in all thanks to their aunt...
My aunt had a benign, estrogen driven brain tumor. She had one of the best neurosurgeons in the US but even with very careful lazer surgery, she had a personality change. That is also when she went from chemo to using "holistic" methods to treat her cancer.
Brain damage has been repeatedly proven that it can cause changes in personality. It is common to hear about serial killers who got head injuries as kids.
Yup. Gacy comes to mind.
The brain tumor story is so interesting. I am NOT a doctor, but work closely with doctors who see kiddos with brain and other cancers. From what I’ve gathered in my experience, basically, the brain gets used to functioning around the tumor/“tendrils.” When the tumor is removed, depending on location and size, parts of the brain can collapse or simply just stop communicating in the way it was formerly able to. SO interesting… the brain is such a unique and complex organ, but the personality change doesn’t surprise me from that story. It’s so individual, but still, so strange to think about. Sending love to that person and their family 🫶🏼
The thing about brain surgery - I did also run into this kind of information a few times. There are parts of the brain that work as a "brake" for certain emotions, and with some brain treatments those parts are severed, which causes a person to become someone completely different. That could show as anger issues, adrenaline junkie, and such.
This Mary Kay aunt really thought you could develop tolerance for the lotion like it’s the iocane powder from Princess Bride 🤪
“Ah yes, Satin Hands. One of the more deadly poisons known to man. Colorless, tasteless, and dissolves completely in water. I’ve spent my entire life building up an immunity to it.”
The last one is actually pretty disturbing if you think about it. This adult convinced a child to lie to her mother and hide things. That’s a form of grooming behavior and could have been very dangerous.
I was just coming to comment this. As a new mom, that freaks me out. Will definitely be teaching my child that any secrets from mom and dad are not good 😡
Yes, exactly! Adults making kids keep secrets is a red flag factory.
Yeah, that’s gross. I will never, ever tell a child to hide something from their parents - I’ll ESPECIALLY never encourage my nieces to hide something from my sister. It is ALWAYS “Talk to your mom, you can trust her.” I want to give OP’s aunt a piece of my mind.
The letter says the mom/aunt went no contact so I really wonder what other underhanded shenanigans auntie was up to!
I had a similar story, my mom knew someone like that and she tried to use Avon makeup and skincare on me (as a NINE year old, mind you!). But my mom and I were close and I felt comfortable telling her things, because she knew I was a _child_ and wouldn't punish me for what some adult forced onto me lol. Yeah, they didn't stay friends after that.
In case you're wondering, it was Avon's nasty mascara I had a bad reaction to. But I kept the bottles of body lotions she gave (including an anti cellulite cream iirc - *she gave this to a NINE YEAR OLD),* though they never worked well and I never used them. I only threw them out years later after I realised that skincare has an expiration date and these products are doing nothing but collecting dust on my shelves. Wish I knew Avon was an MLM sooner, would've thrown those out sooner too.
So I'm staying at an old bed and breakfast and packing up my suitcase when i hear Zeke in the background. My heart just stops because I'm thinking "Wait, the Airbnb didn't say anything about a cat! WHY HAVE I NOT HEARD OF IT UNTIL JUST NOW??" And then I realized it was your cat 😢
"Why arent you working your biz?"
This reminds me of the time when a sharp nosed young mormon girl on her mission interigated me on why I wasnt going to church on my vacation and preying to God every night
This was two weeks after I told her I was an atheist and curious to learn about her religion. Because I was 19 and pre-therapy/ a people pleaser - I told her I was busy. SIDE EYE baby me!
But these two scenarios feel similar, no?
I'm a nurse in brain injury rehab. It's common for patients to have behavioural changes when theres changes in the brain.
I have been absolutely addicted to Hannah's content. It's some of the best anti-MLM content I have found. Thanks Hannah, hope you and your family is doing well ❤
She’s my favorite anti MLM creator of all time ❤❤
I’m cracking up at zeke. 😅😅 he’s too cute and hilarious. His little voice is just adorable.
I love when Zeke joins!
I absolutely believe you can smell an essential oil MLM rep’s house from the street because I have walked by my Dotera rep neighbor’s home a few times and noticed a sharp, minty smell coming from her home. 😑
Oh I totally would believe that too. I work for the postal service in my country and you can smell those packages across the room when they come in, and that’s through the thick cardboard they come in. So gross 🤮
We should do a list of MLM participants inappropriate behaviors, we would be in for a long list.
For starters:
1- Kirby salesperson putting their foot in doorsteps to prevent inconvenient pitch ending.
2.Inviting you to coffee dates, when it's always coffee-less pitches with strangers
Have a master list. I think this is a good idea.
We should set up a bingo 😆
Exploiting illness or loss to sell/recruit
My father had a stroke and his personality and interests changed. At the end of his life he was suffering from Alzheimer's and was becoming dangerous. He passed away from CHF before we had to put him in a home.
I feel like that has to be even harder than losing someone quickly. It's like you lost them, but don't get to actually mourn while a stranger is still there.
Also terrifying to think that it can happen to you one day.
I'm so sorry you all went through that. Brain changes are so disorienting and hard to live with.
@@emeryltekutsu4357 My grandmother had Alzheimer's as well. I went to visit her once and said hello Grandma. She had this habit of saying the same word over and over again, at least 3 minutes straight. I had to leave the room because I was in hysterics. She said it 100s of times but didn't know what the word meant. I calmed myself down and went back in. By that time she'd quit. But I didn't say her title again.
@@maryeckel9682 I have memory issues from a mild tbi. I forget words not only vocabulary words but basic ones, too. One day I forgot the word table. Sometimes I can come up with it given time, other times I have to give up. Even though there is a reason, I still feel stupid. I can't imagaine what/if they think about themselves.
I’ve been wondering: if you went up to a hun and said “ok let’s go, I will buy your most expensive product pack right now, let’s do this. One stipulation is you have to be 100% honest with me in your pitch. No lies, no exaggerations.” Do you think they could do it? Would a top rank be able to more than a low rank could? Just an interesting thought experiment.
Would they knowingly lie? No. Would they repeat the untruths/exaggerations that others had given them? Probably.
I think they would, whether high or low rank, ANYTHING to make a sale, even if it's telling the truth.
And would they let you fact check them in real time?
They'd still lie.
Since they believe what they are telling, they would always tell the truth. Their truth.
37:07 my cat is now running around my apartment trying to find where zeke’s lil meows are coming from 😹
Collagen is NOT required for children or young adults. They only slight benefit will be in older people whose diet is lacking in protein/collagen.
34 and happily never been pitched for a single mlm! Feeling really lucky!
Lucky you. By the time I was 34, I figure I had been targeted at least a dozen times by MLMs.
My two cats are laying in the living room and I have this video playing on the TV. Their heads pop up while Zeke was meowing at the end.
One thing i hate is when they said I retire my husband. Ugh, no he did not retire, he quit. 2 different things.
My husband worked for Kirby for a month... And YES they are trained to put their foot in the door at the beginning of the interaction so you can't close the door on them. A Kirby person will drop a couple of newer sales people off in a neighborhood to just go door to door... and they are taught to do whatever you can to get in the door. My husband left because he sold 3 vacuums in that month but was only paid like 20 because the person on the phone had a personal relationship with one of his sales. The lady gave this couple a huge discount which came out of my husband's check. That was the end... he worked more in that 1 month than he had in a long time (bc he had been looking for work for months with nothing, so he put his all into it even though he felt yucky about it... also he NEVER used the foot in the door thing cu he thought that was beyond yucky) and only made 20.
Oh wow, "putting a foot in the door" is a really old sales tactic, from back when door to door salesman were even more common than they are now.
That's how we get the saying about getting your foot in the door. I didn't realize anyone STILL did it though, dang. Kirby is definitely in the vein of sales people who would have done that waaay back forever ago though, so it tracks.
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Whenever someone mentions 'the oily life' i literally picture a snake basking in a dirty puddle of cooking oil. Which is probably more correct than i realized, now that i think about it 😂
I had a similar story to the last one! My mom knew someone like that and she tried to use Avon makeup and skincare on me (as a NINE year old, mind you!). But my mom and I were close and I felt comfortable telling her things, because she knew I was a _child_ and wouldn't punish me for what some adult forced onto me lol. Yeah, they didn't stay friends after that.
In case you're wondering, it was Avon's nasty mascara I had a bad reaction to. But I kept the bottles of body lotions she gave (including an anti cellulite cream iirc - *she gave this to a NINE YEAR OLD),* though they never worked well and I never used them. I only threw them out years later after I realised that skincare has an expiration date and these products are doing nothing but collecting dust on my shelves. Wish I knew Avon was an MLM sooner, would've thrown those out sooner too.
My heart dropped for the story of the girl with her dad and the brain cancer, it’s so sad because you grieve the person they used to before the surgery. This happened to a loved one and it’s so sad how the oily life make these big claims and unfortunately you never know who you’re going to run into.
You have such a compassionate, intelligent manner; I know your approach to this topic will certainly help people who feel the sting of "failure" to understand they are no such thing. Keep up the good work.
Hannah, your videos are a bright shining light in the darkness that is Monday
Thank you for your educational, non-judgmental, empathetic (and humorous at times) approach to anti-MLM education!
The Kirby stories make me wanna get a chain on my door so they can’t put their foot in the door.
Or just a RING doorbell too and just tell them through the camera “No one is available please go away!”
Ha! My cat is listening to Zeke in the background and wondering where the new friend is!
Not the satin hands!! 😂 Mary Kay is so harsh, my skin was so happy once I threw it out
You know it's going to be a good day when Hannah posts and you have new content to listen to while working~ 😊
My son just turned 18 yesterday and I think I need to have “the talk” with him!
My cat came over during the last story when she heard Zeke thinking I had snuck in a foster again without her knowledge 😂
I love hearing Zeke so much!!
Meeeerooowww, meoooww, meeeooowwww
Dude, the Kirby sales rep putting their foot in the door. 😮 I live in TX, a “stand your ground” state… I would not bat an eye to show them whose house they should avoid. 😂
Oh my satin hands… that also just unlocked a memory for me 😅
Years ago I sold MK and sold Satin Hands to an elderly lady who had the EXACT same reaction and I refunded her.
I remember my upline was convinced she was lying.. absolutely bonkers
Zeke has something to say to the Mary Kay Aunt!😂 me too, Zeke, me too. 😂
Brain injuries are so tragic, it really changes people in extreme manners. The personality change is sadly common
Is there MLM adjacent type businesses? Ok, I was pitched Tri-Star vacuums when I was looking for a job soon after I dropped out of of first try in college. Tri-Star hits all the MLM buttons, including “interviews” where you are more told about the business. The biggest difference seemed to be the high pressure sales, rather than recruiting. I think my brother “worked” for them and tried to sell my parents a vacuum just after they were sucked into a Kirby purchase (pun intended). So my question remains what about Tri-Star and other companies like that?
The brain is an extremely weird little thing. The dad's massive change in behavior is something that can happen when there's anything at all that happens to the brain. It's not out of the ordinary for someone to go in to remove a tumor and come out a completely different person. It's really sad.
The ‘foot in the door’ technique I remember very well. In the 60s, the Fuller brush men did the same in our neighborhood. My mom and I had a lot of laughs over that because it never worked at our house lol.
Ugh I was justtt about to skip my skincare routine. Thankfully, this popped up. And now I’m motivated 😊😂
Collagen is a pretty useful supplement for adults. There is no need to get liquid collagen you can get a good quality supplement for between $15-$30.
And at a regular store.
@maryeckel9682 yes, for example Costco has a range of good supplements.
Ugh! Liquid collagen? Look up how that stuff is manufactured before ingesting it. So gross!
You could just eat bone broth! Make a nice soup and yum. And you can make your own broth.
Zeke is adorable!!! I love his little noises!
Story 1 omg I live in Nashville too and there's a couple of very public MLM things like a place that sells sheds/gazebos and they have a huge sign that says "We Sell Avon"
The dad with the tumor was incredibly sad and disturbing... Not even the MLM aspect but how he changed after the surgery. How hard it must have been for all of them to lose him like that. My heart goes out for them. 💔
Oh, that poor family with the dad with brain cancer. The 180 in personality sounded like it was really hard on everyone.
Having cared for my mom with dementia, I can tell you it's scary and heartbreaking.
@@maryeckel9682 My grandma took care of her mother in her waning years with dementia. When I was a kid, my mom would babysit when grandma had trips and there was hardly any cognizance left. I never really got to know her before the dementia. I lament it; maybe I should reach out and ask how she was like before then.
Yay I love seeing new videos pop up! I love listening to your videos while I work your amazing!!!!
Thank goodness! A new video. I was running out old ones 😖😖
Imagine being the small shop owner in story 1 - you compliment a customer on their glasses, and get rewarded with an MLM pitch. That would be horrendously awkward - so glad the woman emailing didn't do it
Hiiiii Zeke! I feel the same about Mary Kay 😂
My karate school got infected by the MonaVie mlm. It didn't get pitched to the kids, but it was for sale at the front desk and I think the parents got pitched
Just what I needed, a new calming horror stories to fall asleep to ♥️
Happy Monday! Thanks for another video!
The hand cream story reminded me of the times I've tried hand lotions. I'm allergic to something in them. Sounded like Zeke was remembering a bad experience with hand cream cream too 😂 or maybe he was hungry...
Lots of them contain urea, which a lot of people are sensitive to.
Zeke was VERY upset about the Aunt and Mary Kay 🤣
If someone put their foot in the door, I would go into fight or flight mode and threaten to call the police! What are they thinking?
I rarely open the door though, so....😂
Hello Zeke! Thanks for blessing us with your presence
I absolutely love the background singing of the kitties.
Namaste from India, Hannah!!! Huge fan of your content ❤
"Rediscover your "why"" makes me feel like they are abusing some of Simon Sinek's talks.
Went to a Doterra party where the rep told this blatant lie about “some” anonymous customer of hers that was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer but got on oils and later the customer’s test results came back normal. I silently rolled my eyes. I was only there because my friend was into the oil life and wanted to introduce me to it. The party rep kept pressuring my friend to try and recruit me. The obviously fake cancer story turned me off. Finally, my friend told the rep that I wasn’t interested and that my friend only has the account to buy personal stock. She doesn’t plan to be a sales rep. The rep was so mad at her as it meant no downline commissions.
This is random, but thank you for acknowledging what a tragedy it is when someone in your family is diagnosed with cancer. I was only 30 when my mom found out she had cancer and people treated me like it was no big deal when she died because "it's the 'natural order' to lose a parent."
I feel so incredibly sad for the martial arts student. I also left my dojo due to ethical reasons when i was close to testing for my black belt, and it was heartbreaking. Of course you can move to another school, but its so painful when the other students are like family and you have so many good memories from years of training. I hope they found something they love just as much.
Interesting that it took missing parts of brain to believe in essential oils. This checks out. Lol Sorry, I had to…
As someone who had brain surgery I approve of this joke 😂
The third story regarding the brain tumor is also the exact opposite of the first episode of Unwell. Also, the MLM company is also doTerra.
What stood out to me with the cancer story is that it sounds like the neighbor was peddling this idea that her product could cure anything and that's what the dad remembered. The neighbor seems to have this invisible boundary possibly so she can still think she's a good person of I'll sell it as a cure for this this and this but I'm not going to claim it's a cure for cancer. So to have the dad come back at her like "But you said it does this" must be interesting to see go down. It sounds like he may have remembered or reresearched a lot about the product but lost the ability to think critically on the information and just took people's claims at face value. I wonder if the neighbor questioned her ethics after this. It sounds like she still gave in and sold to him so I'm guessing not.
I think I was born and bread anti-mlm! My parents HATED Amway! My mom had a friend in Avon...was that an mlm? Mom would occasionally buy me Avon stuff but I recall telling her when I was like 8 years old that it's junk.
When I was in a bad life situation living out of state alone a couple tried to recruit me. If I recall the name of it was Evolution...anyway I went to the big conference and looked at the pyramid and was baffled how anyone could get to the top. Yes they wanted me to fill out a card with 10 people I knew; names, numbers, any contact info
I told them I don't know anyone!
The couple who took me to the conference invited me to their house after, I went because they drove and then I saw it!
Pushy attitude and an ENTIRE basement FULL of boxes of stuff!
Just nuts to me! Shocker....never heard from them again after that!
Much love to the Hannah and I hope every vulnerable person watches her!
I’m so glad you said “hi zeek” we have construction going on so it’s super loud and I nearly had a heart attack thinking a cat was stuck in the chaos 😭😂
You should definitely have a podcast. Thank you for your video
Had a Kirby vacuum growing up and loved that thing, I remember the demo vividly I was 10 when my parents bought it. Of course I didn’t know about MLMs and not sure my parents knew that either. But I used every attachment as a teen cleaning up after my family. Shame it’s a shady MLM
YAY! One of the firsts :) I love your videos!
The last story gave me a good chuckle. 😂
The noise Zeke made after she acknowledge him. So cute 🥰 36:50
I’m a former martial artist and it breaks my heart to hear about the martial artist. I truly hope she finds another school and earns her black belt. It’s terrible that happened to her 😢
Zeke was ANGRY at the aunt for harming a child.
SATIN HANDS OMG 🤯 memory unlocked
I love the stories and my cat love Zeke!
Kirby reps need to be careful in certain areas. Some people will consider them to be a threat and the castle doctrine won't protect the rep... just saying...
Please start another channel for sleeping stories 😂 you have an incredibly calming and relaxing voice
HI ZEKE! My kitties and I send greetings from Metro Atlanta.
Yaaaayy. It’s time for me to sleep. ❤
I hope the taekwondo person finds another school to attend and continue training. There are taekwondo schools almost everywhere. (Also, 10 years!? I trained in a combined karate/gung fu style and adults could earn a black belt in a few years if they trained consistently.)
Im sorry, but I have CPTSD and if some jerk tried to break into my apartment to sell me a vacuum, Im getting violent. So thier upline better teach them how to bob and weave
That brain cancer story makes me think that MLM huns really might not be all there.
One thing I never understand: these people bust their butts to make no money. Over the years I've had so many different side hustles; I've sold trading cards, legos, comics, hell I sold perlers at one point. I made more than $200 a month in profit for all of those. I probably did less work than these people. I do not get why people would work this hard to make $200. That's insane to me.
As a taekwon-do instructor myself, that story made me furious. This goes against everything that taekwon-do teaches us.