Frost is and forever will be my favorite frame. My step brother who was 11 years older than me introduced me to the game at the lowest point of my life. He mainly plays frost to keep me safe during missions. And i decided to have him as my first prime frame in honor of my step brother. We had a lot of fun playing double frost and modding for either the smallest/largest globe we can make. I still remember those days fondly. My step brother sadly lost his life 4 years ago due to drunk driving. Still to this day i cant believe that he's gone.
@@michaelgrindy6913 I second this. The good times are the best times, glad you can think of those the most when you see things that remind you. Frosty together strong✊
Post-Jade Shadows Viewer! Frost got a slight rework! Cold Procs as a whole got a buff! Now you can apply a tenth proc for a solid freeze! Frost’s Passive was changed! Now, similar to Ember, the more enemies suffering from Cold Procs in close proximity to Frost, the higher his armor goes! Snow Globe finally allows allied fire in both directions! And all Frost’s Abilities are better at spreading Cold Procs, but Ice Wave is still a Helminth Slot.
@@Massolgy considering how good he is as a weapon platform I dont see how can he b an F tier. Will he be as good as the best frames? No, will he be an F tier? Also ot
As a Gara/Rev enjoyer, I've come around to Frost. He's a chill guy who makes Warframe a breeze. Whispers and Dagath's update just made him even more of a beast.
Same he was the reason I even got into Warframe when I saw their trailer when I saw him i immediately fell in love with them and he's been my main ever since I almost literally can't play a different Warframe
Frost is an enigma when it comes to the original Warframes, considering that a good number of them have had a good chunk of their original kits gutted, abilities reworked so heavily that they literally only share the name, or just completely reworked.
@@kennethsatria6607 most changes that have really happened to Rhino was his iron skin going from duration based to having hp just like snow globe and some stomp changes and that's about it. I think Rhino holds the title of least touched frame ever. Only other frame I can think of would be Nova since she only ever really had 2 changes. Her mprime going from an instant debuff to a moving wave, and her damage on her antimatter drop being capped instead of having infinite scaling. Besides that she also has never really been changed in any way
As a starter frost enjoyer to a revenant main I literally remember running frost through most content before plains real fun glad he has some love still
The Frost video is FINALLY here! Special thanks to Nev once again for the Frost Rework Concept he’s provided, be sure to check out his channel! www.youtube.com/@nev546 PS The Heirloom skin was gifted by a family member who watches my videos, I did not purchase it.
Argument for Biting Frost. Arca Titron + Gas procs. When new gas came out. I experimented deeply with it, learning it was the only status effect in Warframe that benefited from overkill damage, and melee's have the highest status duration Mods, and highest overkill potential with combo, heavy attack, and stealth bonuses available. I haven't played since. Veilbreaker and usually used Baruuk, but the redundant overkill of frost's passive mod made me remember my beloved Overkill hammer that made instakill AOE fields for 12 seconds.
Frost fell off for many years but due to Overguard, his augments, the armour strip changes and increased emphasis on ranged weapon he has become extremely fun and powerful to play, even with just base kit
I disagree unfortunately. While his avalanche ability and augment has aged fairly well, as well as his Biting Frost augment, his other three abilities just don’t keep up any longer in terms of actual gameplay and utility. You can argue about the bubble if you want, but his first and second abilities, along with his passive, just don’t hold up in Steel Path in my opinion. Ice wave provides no utility to the team nor does it debuff the enemy enough to be considered useful. Snowball only provides cold damage, unless you really want to single target freeze enemies or break his bubbles for basically no damage. In terms of defense type missions, I’d rather have Gara’s Mass Vitrify instead of Frost’s Snowglobe. Gara’s kit just outclasses Frost’s with being able to use her defensive abilities and quickly turn them into offensive. I love Frost, and want him to become something unique. But with 3 of his abilities being useless or inferior to others, and missions supposedly ‘getting harder’, he needs to be changed to keep him from falling into just avalanche spam.
@@apexghost1294 but just avalanche spam is fine, it’s an extremely strong power and it alone carries him to a high tier. Sure, make his other powers better, but if the current playstyle and build is compromised then they’ve removed his uniqueness and potentially nerfed him. We already got the biggest nerf in Warframe history with Grendel’s “rework” which was intended as a buff, so quite frankly at this point unless we are clearly told something isnt being touched I don’t want it being fcked with.
@@apexghost1294 There's other things more important than utility to the team. Like...freezing stuff. That's what Ice Wave is for: use Biting Frost (because that's the best Augment out of all) , press 2 when in a tight corridor or in front of any big group of enemies and go to town with gun or blade and insta-kill a whole army with orange and red crits. Here you got, Ice Wave. No utility needed. Snowball has a similar use. If you fight just one tough enemy, keep spamming 1 to keep it frozen and damage it. It's the lowest cost freeze ability and sometimes if you only have a little bit of energy left, that's just enough to stay cool.
@@hydraxon6940 here’s the thing: “Freezing stuff”, while an insanely useful tool, is now no longer unique to Frost. Frost heavily benefitted from the change and is in a really good spot mechanically speaking especially with the small ice wave change and its augment…; however, his kit is still heavily outdated in the current meta. He’s really good, yes, and the cold buffs(along with his minor ability changes) have definitely benefited him, but any half decent build still just spams his 4 and that’s it. Can I cool the floor down and apply Cold on enemies who walk over it and eventually freeze them? Yeah…, but I could ignore that entire step by just using his 4 and stripping the enemy’s armor in the process. And if you have to spam snowballs at an enemy to keep him frozen long enough to kill him, you probably shouldn’t be at that level of content yet with that build. As I’ve said before in other comments, Frost’s abilities outside of his 4 are basically useless. I’m not saying they can’t be used or don’t have some utility, but his 4 overshadows every other ability that he has by such a high margin he’s basically a 4 spam. And btw “freezing stuff” quite literally is a *utility* debuff. Forcing enemies not to move is a utility crowd control. Biting Frost just happens to turn that debuff into Frost’s favor. Edit: additionally, energy management and creation is so easy in the current sandbox, that you basically should never be running out of energy with a half built build.
Frost main since I started the game years ago. I gravitate to other frames, run around with Nidus, Titania, Sevagoth, and many more. But I will always come back around to my Frost Prime. I try to do all story content with it so it shows up in the cutscenes. Just, he's fun and always has been. Glad my boy is on the upswing.
Frost needs a signature aura mod /passive change called cold aura that does radial cold procs does no damage and range can't be changed but it would be a nice change
make his passive like embers, but instead of power strenght, give him energy siphon like effect for each enemy in affinity range that has cold proc on them, thus fixing his energy economy while staying true to his vibe make his 1 cone instead of single target, and if you want give it the same thing as harrow but instead of shield buff let it give him some armor buff, making him even tankier, or give him some other form of buff for each enemy hit, but make it both a cheap way to proc his passive and also something useful to use to mantain certain buff make his 3 hold to cast that you can move with it, and make it proc 1 cold for each enemy that it touches aaand change his 2 into something more useful, if you want to be lazy make it the same as hydroids 3 where it gives him some buffs for each enemy affected with cold, while also making the cold procs permanent, or just make it radial coverage and give him like status immunit while standing on it or something like that he is such an easy fix but would be sooo good
@@nbassasin8092 I'd agree if not for 2 things his whole thing is more cold for more overall damage and if you need energy siphon or something like it in 2024 you may need to look at your build again
@@CG-_- brother, it would be stack of energy siphon per enemie affected, do you not know what embers passive does? in steel path it would result in something like 20-50 eneryg per second regen, i just used energy siphon for comparison not for the actual aura you would use, take styanaxs rally point instead if that part confuses you
@@nbassasin8092 there are sooo soo sooo many ways to go from 0 energy to full in one action I don't want frosts already bad passive to be energy recharge when it could be something that benefits his entire kit like passive cold stacks which btw fits his lore
Frost is the main reason I play Warframe. I remember around 7 years ago that I really love his design and ice power. He looks so cool! He reminds me of Vergil's DMC 3 devil trigger somehow with that waist coat of his. Here I am now still maining Frost. Gotta love how he has overguard and armor strip. It makes me so happy to play him
As a frost main thats been playing since 2015 i thank you for this video. It was really cool to not only see what someone else thoughts on a rework for frost but to see history of the frame that i didnr even know. I love how in depth you went with tha patch history and everything. Hopefully my boi finally gets some at the very lesst ice wave chances and qol stuff for snow globe. That or we get a ice based frame that is like frost but kit is more build for the current state of the game / more then just defense. Imo while frost needs some changes over all he is a good frame that is just more focused on one type of gameplay and nothing else but he so good at it would hate to see a massive rework
Gauss uses two casts of a 50 energy ability to freeze enemies in an AoE, applying 2 cold procs Frost uses 1 cast of either a 50 energy ability or 100 energy ability to freeze enemies in AoE + defend/slow an area or strip armor and apply 6 cold procs (or his 1 for a much smaller AoE) Giving Frost the Hydroid treatment and having a special version of the status (well, until green shards undid that) might be an idea, but Frost is definitely not getting pushed out of the freezing game by Gauss.
I love a new Ubral Video to start the new year. Also I actually enjoyed frost chill playstyle even it's niche. Been building my parkour frost for the event and actually speedrun with him for 9 mins if I skip the angel in Effervo. I wish he needed some adjustments, number tweaks and change onto his 1,2 and passive because he has been getting small buffs on his cold, overguard augment and ease of use
FINALLY a good title for the vid. Good shit as always on the rest, really have found such a good format for these vids and i cannot express how much i enjoy watching them
I have every single warframe in the game on a 10 year old account. I am still Frost main - no matter what. After that comes Mag. Thanks for the video! We won't let his legacy die.
Frost is my old love. He carried me through the starchart when I was just a beginner. I moved to Inaros later when I got him, but Frost was, is and forever will be, my one true love as a nordic person.
Even before Frost got overguard upgrade, I loved running my max efficiency build using Avalanche and Gloom. It was fun bringing enemy movement to a standstill while stripping their armor and gaining extra layer of protection that I can keep replenishing due to my Avalanche spam. Overguard just gave my Frost another extra damage gate. That and Gloom active with my color combination looks cool. Its like having a snowstorm swirling around Frost.
One change I wish frost got is an ice rink mechanic. Make it so that the ground impacted by Ice Wave/avalanche and the area inside Snow Globe is 50% lower friction. It would just be fun.
Frost it’s my favorite warframe, I remember that I wanted to get the prime in the times it was pretty Expensive (2014-2015?), I remember to farm platinum to buy every part, but the systems if i remember correctly were like 150+ platinum. One day in the trade chat I saw someone selling it for 30p, I messaged him to ask if the price was right because I’ve never saw it so cheap, I thanked that guy so much, he was confused xD. That Frost became my most used warframe and still my favorite :D
Frost has been my main frame since shortly after I started the game back in early 2018. The main thng that drew me to him was the frame reveal video, stating that he was an adaptable tank, capable of both offense and defense, depending on your needs. The funny thing is that…it wasn’t wrong then, and it still isn’t today. Most people only see him for his snow globe and avalanche, and thus completely ignore his other abilities. Sure, freeze and ice wave look bad on paper, but used in the right situations, they _can_ be pretty strong. Early on, I used freeze to make tankier enemies like Nox a slab of ice for me to dump bullets into with impunity, and I’ve used ice wave to lock enemies in place for my allies to melt with their dps, even in present day. Heck, Frost’s status abilities are really good when combined with a teammate playing Citrine, seeing as her turret ability targets enemies effected by status effects, and said turret’s damage stacks with the number of status effects, which _appears_ to include slow. With the right team, and the right use of his abilities, Frost can dominate even in higher levels. The main thing holding him back, in my opinion, is the majority of the community refusing to accept that Frost is more than just a defense frame. Sure, it’s something he does well, but thats not the only thing he can do well. He can strip armor from enemies, freeze them solid so they cant fight back, he can lock down choke points, and he can defend. Sure, there are other frames that can do all these, and can do them far better, but there arent many frames that can do them all at once like Frost can. He’s a jack of all trades, master of none. Other options may be more specialized, but what happens if the situation changes? Hyper-specialized frames can’t really adapt well outside their intended role, whereas a jack of all trades, like Frost, can. A jack of all trades has no intended role, because they can do everything equally well. In situations requiring a certain role, of course something that specializes in that role would have a jack of all trades beat, but that specialization means they can _only_ do that one thing well. If a situation arises where said specialized frame needs to do something outside its specialization, it…kinda cant. That’s why I’ve mained Frost as long as I have, and why I will continue to main him until the day Warframe dies - because few others accept that Frost’s strong point is his adaptability.
You can definitely tell there was a definite shift in the design philosophy of Warframe, how a lot of the early warframes are fairly simple with few if any synergistic effects and abilities or forego that entirely with plain utility skills like Valkyr's ripline, and how the modern warframes all synergize with/around a core mechanic of the frame. Gauss' Redline, Wisp's motes and wisps, Sevagoth's gloom and exalted shadow. It really does make these older warframes feel incredibly dated and in dire need of some TLC.
Im a frost main when i started warframe was a rhino main then i tried frost. Last week i bought Frost Prime which i dont regret. I just hope my ice box gets more love soon lol. I was born christmas eve and always loved sub zero as a kid in mortal kombat. To me frost just screams my style.
Frost Prime was my first frame, I started playing when he was free for some reason. While he might not be "meta" he is still one of my favourites, he also has some great fashion! Took a few years before he fell from my most played frame❤
For Nev's concept, I'd make the Snowglobe only get 4x instead of 5x Armor Multiplier as Health, BUT make it gain a flat 3x Overguard to Health conversion each time YOUR abilities generate Overguard while inside of it. This way it avoids having to be recast as often but also isn't completely passive, requiring you to use your other abilities to keep building it up.
Alot of these clips are such throwbacks. The regular frost skin with the original amphis. My two very first crafting goals in warframe. I remember saving the frost release wallpaper to my Pc
Can we somehow wave this rework concept at Pablo? Although Frost is in an ok place with the balance, changes and arcanes like primary frostbite he's very one note and repetitive, especially with his 3 becoming essentially useless in the high mobility meta that's coming in with the whispers tile sets, 1 and 2 are a waste of energy so we use him to abuse his all in one ability and occasionally check DMs, the change in playstyle to more of a tank, cc, weapon platform would make him very unique with how he would achieve that, like rhino but with a very different way to play is a great thing for variety.
Passive: Like Embers, but instead of power strenght give him energy siphon like effect for each enemy affected by cold proc in affinity range (or ceratin range if thats too big, you can also give him the cap if it turns out its too much in the testing but with how many other broken energy economy crap we have I doubt it would). This alone greatly fixes eneryg economy on him, even to the degree of not needing flow or efficiency (with better base energy poool ofc, that one is a given fix that he needs) 1st: just ake it cone shape and make it proc cold to work with his new passive, while also having harrow like effect of giving him armor buff for each enemy hit, or some other buff, but make it cheap quick form of buffing him and utilising his passive 2nd: either make it a plunder like ability or make it AOE coverage and give him status immunity while standing on it or something of the sort 3rd: just give it hold to cast to walk with it, and make it proc cold whenever enemies touch it 4th: stays the same this is the hydroid treatment of making him almost the same while giving him some chunky lifts to abilities, making it very easy for devs while making frost a fun ability caster that still can do the exact same thing he has been doing, while also having other things Edit: I really like the augment for his 3rd that allies could pick up the globe and get armour buff, that sounds very unique and fun and Im even up for making that part of his 3rd and not the augment
For someone who played Warframe in 2014-2015, it was nice to hear about the history of the frame up to 2023. I remember using Rhino, Trinity and Nekros for farming survival and Frost mainly for excavation/defense, but remember not using it when snowglobe had Health.
I still remember when i was starting and fell in love with his concept of being a big strong wall of ice that could freeze anything. I used him a lot and after some time i found out there was a prime version and for months farmed and buyed his different pieces except his Systems if i'm not wrong, one day a good guy just found out the reason i was trying to sell anything was trying to get that one last piece so he said something like "hey, if you want we can try to get it, for free" he was just being nice for no reason, just being a good person and a big reason to love the game, the people is usually nice to you, so we went for it and in the first try we failed and the second was the last try since he didn't have more relics but right there the miracle happened, his systems were there to pick them, i had finally obtained my favourite frame till this day. I think i have spent more plat than any other frame just to Fashion frame on him and i don't regret doing it.
Why bring trinity at all when Warframes all have access to a healing ability due to helminth? She has 1 place in the current sandbox and that's eidolons.
I really like the idea of Frost getting raised maximum for cold procs, both gameplay-wise and and presentation-wise really makes him look as a master of his element
I enjoy the history of each frame you focus on in each video and look forward to every video from NovaUmbral. I started playing during Echos of Zaramin/Khora Prime Access so I find the history lesson and recap enjoyable info. I learned more on how to actually play and utilize Harrow from your video than any other WF streamer/content creator shared. Because of NovaUmbral and The Kengineer I now use Lavos as my secondary main because Lavos just fits and just works for me and how I play WF. Not saying this to be toxic or to troll, you sound bitterly cold in the first 35mins of the video while going over the history of the Game Updates and how the updates apply to one of the oldest frames. It sounds personal, as in NovaUmbral is fed up and wants Frost to be the SubZero of WF again and is tired of the short stick. I agree, Frost should be Bihan of WF. Frost should outclass glass and chains, Frost and cold can be better and should be. Sorry I lost interest during the player Nev rework section after like 3mins and fast forwarded to the closing thoughts.The technical talk made me glassy eyed and was just over my head. I'm not into theory crafting or game development, I just play to be a bad ass space wizard powered cyber ninja taking. Otherwise I loved the video like all the content I've seen from NovaUmbral.
Frost become meta in my eyes when the helminth option for adding dispensary on him, giving him infinite energy to allow him to spam his 4th ability. You would have to build for a lot of strength to fully strip but this didn't really matter with dispensary. The augment now is identical to how it functioned before the health type just changed, so while it was (and is) extremely minor even on steel path it now also gives him a free gate in addition to his shield gate. Overall his only issue is single enemies like acolytes if they are not surrounded by enemies for frost to overguard steal from.
I really struggled my first two days on so, this is my 4th. I died constantly to base so eximus leech etc. frost has helped me so so much just modding for efficiency strength and stretch has made me able to strip armor very easily. Thank you frost I was about to give up.
A great video about my first main and favorite frame the Chill Boi. My rework idea of him would be to make Frost more buff focused to make him feel like he helps hold the team together. His new passive makes killing frozen enemies give overwhelms to Frost and nearby allies. His new 1 Shatter is an aoe ground slam that deals double damage against frozen targets. His new 2 cold snap gives a cold damage and status chance buff to ally weapons. His 3 is mostly the same but can be cast on allies, and using Shatter while in it gives everyone inside overguard based in the globes health. And His 4 is also mostly the same but gives allies DR based on the number if targets hit. Give him all 3 forms of survivability (weaker obviously) to really make him feel like a defensive powerhouse.
I'd like to see an augment or rework to change snowglobe into an ironskin-style overguard for everything in range. No more blocking your own team's shots.
Tbh, i only do relic defense, mobile defense and interception. And I think the way frost is now is fine if not really good. Icy avalanche and biting frost is amazing. Yea I’ve wave sucks for dps so I ain’t gonna argue there.
So happy that one person isn’t working on warframe and has moved onto a different game. Imo the game has been thriving and doing so much better in every way.
I had no intentions of actually getting it until the holidays where a family member who watches my videos gifted it to me, it is nice despite the hefty price tag
As a Frost main I always wondered why there was no special effect from shooting from the globe, like Volt has. My idea was to have an Augment that grants bonus cold and crit by shooting from the globe. I was also thinking about allowing it to be mobile. There is so much that can be done with my boy, I hope we will see some modernization as dmg is the sole meta now.
I think that would be nice also shooting into a bubble and make the bullets of you and friends get that effect. Idk how many times i hear as a frost main your bubble blocked my shot.
Seeing the sad decay of team based composition in Warframe in favor of solo nuking reminds me.. can you do a video on my favorite frame, Vauban? He has a sad history similar to Frost.
As someone who has Frost as a most played warframe im absolutely in love with the concept. I wish DE would listen and try to implement at least something similar if not the same.
Also if you asked me for info on frost, i could have told you that the augment mod for frost's freeze, freeze force, would "stick" to enemies and for the entire duration of the cold damage boost they would emit cold damage and procs in an aoe around them due to a bug. DE fixed this bug at least 3 times, but it kept coming back. I used this to make a meme build where i used a roller to defeat 5 waves of infested defense by just it having those cold procs on it. This was finally fixed by DE changing the augment to give cold damage as an aoe on hold, rather than using the freeze projectile to do it.
41:48 oh my void. only now I understood how Precision Intensify worked, I always thought it works like Protea Passive, but was bugged to always be applying, bot not, incredible. (I mean, conveniently enough, I only tested on the 4th skills of all the frames I used lmao) ty I guess
My rework idea: Passive - Freezing enemies is possible with all sources of cold procs. - Enemies killed with Cold DMG will drop a pillar of Ice that counts as a fragment of a wall that makes up a Cube, lasts until shattered. Once shattered it releases Cold aoe that builds up Cold procs. Those close to a pillar of ice are passively slowed down with cold procs until frozen. - Also the Ice drops HP and AMMO when shattered by any source. Puncture Procs also Procs Cold status. 1 STASIS Blast - throw a Hammer of Ice that bounces once and then detonates. Like a bouncy grenade. Deals IPS, Blast and Cold. - Hold down to shoot like a projectile (like it does rn). This version deals pure Cold. - On a surface except for walls and ceilings, it will create a wall of 3 pillars of ice. Enemies near the Ice Slow down but take no dmg only Cold Procs. - Any of the two will freeze instantly if aimed well. Using the Hold Fire increases the Ice Pillars reach as it adds more Pillars to the point of creating a Cube of Ice. 2 Stasis Wave - Swing your Ice Hammer from side to side hitting targets like Gara's 1st, freezing them instantly and as a bonus a wave of ice Pillars will grow from the hammers trajectory traveling through the floor. - The amount of ice created will negate movement and enemy flow on the map. But players can walkthrough it. Bosses (except minibosses) are immune to the ice and breaks it instantly by simply walking over it. - Holddown to control how far the ice wall/wave should travel, release it to spawn. Very similar to Zelda TOTK Yiga clan secret ability. - The Hammer will work like a pseudo Exalted weapon like Khoras 1st, scales off of Cold, IPS and Blast. 3 Stasis Globe - Same but can be carried if held when casting. AND ALLIES CAN SHOOT from any direction no matter. Shooting from inside imbues weapona with Cold, Blast and Puncture to all weapons, amps and abilities. - If you break the Ice Globe it will drop ammo and Health. 4 Stasis Storm - Slam a heavy Ice Hammer into the grown to spawn a Cube of Ice from which a Vortex of cold energy will violently trash enemies if close. - Allies gain Overguard if close as the buff starts to decay once you leave the area. - It strips armor. Enemies killed by the storm Drop extra Health and ammo. If active while near a pillar of ice it will become a large cube - Ice cube deals tripple the effect of a base Ice Pillar when stading near it and when shattering it. - The AOE does Deal heavy IPS, Blast and Cold DMG unlike a Pillar of ice. - Basically you can create a field of Ice cubes that negates enemy advances but mind you, the cubes arent immortal. - Use your Hammer abilities to Push the Cube but mind you if it doesnt hit a wall (only walls ) it will crash and break on contact.
1. i learned stuff i didn't know about frost before so thanks 2. i agree with the idea of reworked 1 and 2 but not the 3 and 4, mainly the hold ability for his 3 and discount world of fire for his 4.
Nevs rework idea is very similar to what i thought of when i was brainstorming a frost rework. so i hope DE will go in that direction as well when they eventually rework him
Frost is and forever will be my favorite frame. My step brother who was 11 years older than me introduced me to the game at the lowest point of my life. He mainly plays frost to keep me safe during missions. And i decided to have him as my first prime frame in honor of my step brother.
We had a lot of fun playing double frost and modding for either the smallest/largest globe we can make. I still remember those days fondly.
My step brother sadly lost his life 4 years ago due to drunk driving. Still to this day i cant believe that he's gone.
I'm very sorry for your loss, hopefully he is in a better place, and hopefully this video brings you back some good memories about him
@@NovaUmbral it did. and thank you for your kind words.
Rest in peace. 🙏
Didn’t think that story would take a turn, I’m sorry for your loss. keep frost strong my guy 🙏
@@michaelgrindy6913 I second this. The good times are the best times, glad you can think of those the most when you see things that remind you. Frosty together strong✊
Post-Jade Shadows Viewer! Frost got a slight rework!
Cold Procs as a whole got a buff! Now you can apply a tenth proc for a solid freeze!
Frost’s Passive was changed! Now, similar to Ember, the more enemies suffering from Cold Procs in close proximity to Frost, the higher his armor goes!
Snow Globe finally allows allied fire in both directions!
And all Frost’s Abilities are better at spreading Cold Procs, but Ice Wave is still a Helminth Slot.
Frost is very good now, not top tier but good. He gives out a pretty respectable amount of overshields and gives a lot of damage to the team.
@@lunasllenas1997 depends on the game mode... frost can be s tier or f
@@Massolgy considering how good he is as a weapon platform I dont see how can he b an F tier.
Will he be as good as the best frames? No, will he be an F tier? Also ot
Oh man nothing beat loading into a defense mission and seeing a frost on your team. Felt unstoppable.
hats off to every Frost I met while farming for Citrine, they took the pressure off the missions so much
As a Gara/Rev enjoyer, I've come around to Frost. He's a chill guy who makes Warframe a breeze. Whispers and Dagath's update just made him even more of a beast.
Frosty jokes incoming
Yeah his abilities are cold as ice.
Wait ehat did davath's update do?
@@varlak9061 got ur answer somewhere else?
@@varlak9061 might've been over guard to his avalanche augment
Frost was the first warframe i built starting out, he hold a VERY special place in my heart.
I wanted the Prime varriant for so long, and I still play him today
Same he was the reason I even got into Warframe when I saw their trailer when I saw him i immediately fell in love with them and he's been my main ever since I almost literally can't play a different Warframe
First Prime I built, during the void key era
i remember frost being the first warframe I built, with the help of a more experienced tenno at that time which was 3 years ago
Frost is an enigma when it comes to the original Warframes, considering that a good number of them have had a good chunk of their original kits gutted, abilities reworked so heavily that they literally only share the name, or just completely reworked.
It’s either him or Rhino that stayed consistent throughout the times
Did Rhino ever go through something like that?
I feel like he's always just been as he is
@@ShangusKhan Oh question answered
@@kennethsatria6607 most changes that have really happened to Rhino was his iron skin going from duration based to having hp just like snow globe and some stomp changes and that's about it. I think Rhino holds the title of least touched frame ever. Only other frame I can think of would be Nova since she only ever really had 2 changes. Her mprime going from an instant debuff to a moving wave, and her damage on her antimatter drop being capped instead of having infinite scaling. Besides that she also has never really been changed in any way
@@BladeBloodTearNyx
As a starter frost enjoyer to a revenant main
I literally remember running frost through most content before plains real fun glad he has some love still
aaaaand now we have cold procs being able to freeze across all instances
The Frost video is FINALLY here! Special thanks to Nev once again for the Frost Rework Concept he’s provided, be sure to check out his channel! www.youtube.com/@nev546
PS The Heirloom skin was gifted by a family member who watches my videos, I did not purchase it.
What's your currently used ephemera for frost? 0:50 It looks like "data" in streaming around his body
i think the verv ephemera, from twitch prime @@artyomxiii
Forgot to mention that Frost got "Exclusive" first heirloom skin alongside with Ember
@@dan4571u mean mag?
Argument for Biting Frost. Arca Titron + Gas procs. When new gas came out. I experimented deeply with it, learning it was the only status effect in Warframe that benefited from overkill damage, and melee's have the highest status duration Mods, and highest overkill potential with combo, heavy attack, and stealth bonuses available. I haven't played since. Veilbreaker and usually used Baruuk, but the redundant overkill of frost's passive mod made me remember my beloved Overkill hammer that made instakill AOE fields for 12 seconds.
Frost fell off for many years but due to Overguard, his augments, the armour strip changes and increased emphasis on ranged weapon he has become extremely fun and powerful to play, even with just base kit
I disagree unfortunately. While his avalanche ability and augment has aged fairly well, as well as his Biting Frost augment, his other three abilities just don’t keep up any longer in terms of actual gameplay and utility. You can argue about the bubble if you want, but his first and second abilities, along with his passive, just don’t hold up in Steel Path in my opinion. Ice wave provides no utility to the team nor does it debuff the enemy enough to be considered useful. Snowball only provides cold damage, unless you really want to single target freeze enemies or break his bubbles for basically no damage. In terms of defense type missions, I’d rather have Gara’s Mass Vitrify instead of Frost’s Snowglobe. Gara’s kit just outclasses Frost’s with being able to use her defensive abilities and quickly turn them into offensive. I love Frost, and want him to become something unique. But with 3 of his abilities being useless or inferior to others, and missions supposedly ‘getting harder’, he needs to be changed to keep him from falling into just avalanche spam.
@@apexghost1294 but just avalanche spam is fine, it’s an extremely strong power and it alone carries him to a high tier. Sure, make his other powers better, but if the current playstyle and build is compromised then they’ve removed his uniqueness and potentially nerfed him. We already got the biggest nerf in Warframe history with Grendel’s “rework” which was intended as a buff, so quite frankly at this point unless we are clearly told something isnt being touched I don’t want it being fcked with.
@@finleymorris04 I don’t want avalanche touched either. I just want his other three abilities, and his passive, to not be worthless.
@@apexghost1294 There's other things more important than utility to the team. Like...freezing stuff. That's what Ice Wave is for: use Biting Frost (because that's the best Augment out of all) , press 2 when in a tight corridor or in front of any big group of enemies and go to town with gun or blade and insta-kill a whole army with orange and red crits.
Here you got, Ice Wave. No utility needed.
Snowball has a similar use. If you fight just one tough enemy, keep spamming 1 to keep it frozen and damage it. It's the lowest cost freeze ability and sometimes if you only have a little bit of energy left, that's just enough to stay cool.
@@hydraxon6940 here’s the thing: “Freezing stuff”, while an insanely useful tool, is now no longer unique to Frost. Frost heavily benefitted from the change and is in a really good spot mechanically speaking especially with the small ice wave change and its augment…; however, his kit is still heavily outdated in the current meta. He’s really good, yes, and the cold buffs(along with his minor ability changes) have definitely benefited him, but any half decent build still just spams his 4 and that’s it. Can I cool the floor down and apply Cold on enemies who walk over it and eventually freeze them? Yeah…, but I could ignore that entire step by just using his 4 and stripping the enemy’s armor in the process. And if you have to spam snowballs at an enemy to keep him frozen long enough to kill him, you probably shouldn’t be at that level of content yet with that build. As I’ve said before in other comments, Frost’s abilities outside of his 4 are basically useless. I’m not saying they can’t be used or don’t have some utility, but his 4 overshadows every other ability that he has by such a high margin he’s basically a 4 spam. And btw “freezing stuff” quite literally is a *utility* debuff. Forcing enemies not to move is a utility crowd control. Biting Frost just happens to turn that debuff into Frost’s favor.
Edit: additionally, energy management and creation is so easy in the current sandbox, that you basically should never be running out of energy with a half built build.
Wow, there was a lot of history in this one. Mad props for all the work that went into it. Stay frosty! ❄️
and now, frost is a complete monster
Frost main since I started the game years ago. I gravitate to other frames, run around with Nidus, Titania, Sevagoth, and many more. But I will always come back around to my Frost Prime. I try to do all story content with it so it shows up in the cutscenes. Just, he's fun and always has been. Glad my boy is on the upswing.
Frost needs a signature aura mod /passive change called cold aura that does radial cold procs does no damage and range can't be changed but it would be a nice change
Or they can also give him hydroid treatment but for cold procs where on 10 procs he freezes , maybe even add % shatter dmg too
make his passive like embers, but instead of power strenght, give him energy siphon like effect for each enemy in affinity range that has cold proc on them, thus fixing his energy economy while staying true to his vibe
make his 1 cone instead of single target, and if you want give it the same thing as harrow but instead of shield buff let it give him some armor buff, making him even tankier, or give him some other form of buff for each enemy hit, but make it both a cheap way to proc his passive and also something useful to use to mantain certain buff
make his 3 hold to cast that you can move with it, and make it proc 1 cold for each enemy that it touches
aaand change his 2 into something more useful, if you want to be lazy make it the same as hydroids 3 where it gives him some buffs for each enemy affected with cold, while also making the cold procs permanent, or just make it radial coverage and give him like status immunit while standing on it or something like that
he is such an easy fix but would be sooo good
@@nbassasin8092 I'd agree if not for 2 things his whole thing is more cold for more overall damage and if you need energy siphon or something like it in 2024 you may need to look at your build again
@@CG-_- brother, it would be stack of energy siphon per enemie affected, do you not know what embers passive does? in steel path it would result in something like 20-50 eneryg per second regen, i just used energy siphon for comparison not for the actual aura you would use, take styanaxs rally point instead if that part confuses you
@@nbassasin8092 there are sooo soo sooo many ways to go from 0 energy to full in one action I don't want frosts already bad passive to be energy recharge when it could be something that benefits his entire kit like passive cold stacks which btw fits his lore
I’ve been a frost main for the 6 years I’ve been playing and I still spend time perfecting my frost build
Can u care to share...
Frost was my first main, then wukong, then it was sevagoth and now it's frost again. He is overall insanely good.
Frost is the main reason I play Warframe. I remember around 7 years ago that I really love his design and ice power. He looks so cool! He reminds me of Vergil's DMC 3 devil trigger somehow with that waist coat of his. Here I am now still maining Frost. Gotta love how he has overguard and armor strip. It makes me so happy to play him
Ive never really watched a video like this, you've definitely earned a sub.
As a frost main thats been playing since 2015 i thank you for this video. It was really cool to not only see what someone else thoughts on a rework for frost but to see history of the frame that i didnr even know. I love how in depth you went with tha patch history and everything. Hopefully my boi finally gets some at the very lesst ice wave chances and qol stuff for snow globe. That or we get a ice based frame that is like frost but kit is more build for the current state of the game / more then just defense. Imo while frost needs some changes over all he is a good frame that is just more focused on one type of gameplay and nothing else but he so good at it would hate to see a massive rework
Frost was my first, and now is my forever main
Gauss uses two casts of a 50 energy ability to freeze enemies in an AoE, applying 2 cold procs
Frost uses 1 cast of either a 50 energy ability or 100 energy ability to freeze enemies in AoE + defend/slow an area or strip armor and apply 6 cold procs
(or his 1 for a much smaller AoE)
Giving Frost the Hydroid treatment and having a special version of the status (well, until green shards undid that) might be an idea, but Frost is definitely not getting pushed out of the freezing game by Gauss.
Do one on how over your Many years on warframe you are still incapable of getting a girl
Edit after 7 months thx for the 800 likes 😃
same
For real, I've been grinding since 2017 and I still can't get Khora to fuckin' drop
this is why you pick khora for circuit reward@@davidsterling7570
As long as you take care of yourself like you do your frames youll be straight tenno
@@tekkadawn6685or even gay tenno
If his one spread it's status like Banshee does with her Sonar Augment Frost would be amazing. If maybe that were his passive it would be amazing.
This is a top tier channel
I love a new Ubral Video to start the new year. Also I actually enjoyed frost chill playstyle even it's niche. Been building my parkour frost for the event and actually speedrun with him for 9 mins if I skip the angel in Effervo. I wish he needed some adjustments, number tweaks and change onto his 1,2 and passive because he has been getting small buffs on his cold, overguard augment and ease of use
As a FROST main; you have MADE MY DAY! Thank you good sir 🫡
Just got into your channel, and looked through your videos to be surprised that there wasn't anything about frost. Thanks for this
Finally someone making a Frost video!
It is my main and I can take him to every mission, but I prefer to use better frames for specific missions.
FINALLY a good title for the vid. Good shit as always on the rest, really have found such a good format for these vids and i cannot express how much i enjoy watching them
Keep it going love this
I have every single warframe in the game on a 10 year old account. I am still Frost main - no matter what. After that comes Mag.
Thanks for the video! We won't let his legacy die.
Frost is my old love. He carried me through the starchart when I was just a beginner. I moved to Inaros later when I got him, but Frost was, is and forever will be, my one true love as a nordic person.
Even before Frost got overguard upgrade, I loved running my max efficiency build using Avalanche and Gloom. It was fun bringing enemy movement to a standstill while stripping their armor and gaining extra layer of protection that I can keep replenishing due to my Avalanche spam. Overguard just gave my Frost another extra damage gate. That and Gloom active with my color combination looks cool. Its like having a snowstorm swirling around Frost.
One change I wish frost got is an ice rink mechanic. Make it so that the ground impacted by Ice Wave/avalanche and the area inside Snow Globe is 50% lower friction. It would just be fun.
Frost it’s my favorite warframe, I remember that I wanted to get the prime in the times it was pretty Expensive (2014-2015?), I remember to farm platinum to buy every part, but the systems if i remember correctly were like 150+ platinum. One day in the trade chat I saw someone selling it for 30p, I messaged him to ask if the price was right because I’ve never saw it so cheap, I thanked that guy so much, he was confused xD. That Frost became my most used warframe and still my favorite :D
Nev is truly an insane gamer and mentally ill as well, i love him so much
Frost has been my main frame since shortly after I started the game back in early 2018. The main thng that drew me to him was the frame reveal video, stating that he was an adaptable tank, capable of both offense and defense, depending on your needs.
The funny thing is that…it wasn’t wrong then, and it still isn’t today. Most people only see him for his snow globe and avalanche, and thus completely ignore his other abilities. Sure, freeze and ice wave look bad on paper, but used in the right situations, they _can_ be pretty strong. Early on, I used freeze to make tankier enemies like Nox a slab of ice for me to dump bullets into with impunity, and I’ve used ice wave to lock enemies in place for my allies to melt with their dps, even in present day.
Heck, Frost’s status abilities are really good when combined with a teammate playing Citrine, seeing as her turret ability targets enemies effected by status effects, and said turret’s damage stacks with the number of status effects, which _appears_ to include slow. With the right team, and the right use of his abilities, Frost can dominate even in higher levels.
The main thing holding him back, in my opinion, is the majority of the community refusing to accept that Frost is more than just a defense frame. Sure, it’s something he does well, but thats not the only thing he can do well. He can strip armor from enemies, freeze them solid so they cant fight back, he can lock down choke points, and he can defend. Sure, there are other frames that can do all these, and can do them far better, but there arent many frames that can do them all at once like Frost can. He’s a jack of all trades, master of none. Other options may be more specialized, but what happens if the situation changes? Hyper-specialized frames can’t really adapt well outside their intended role, whereas a jack of all trades, like Frost, can. A jack of all trades has no intended role, because they can do everything equally well. In situations requiring a certain role, of course something that specializes in that role would have a jack of all trades beat, but that specialization means they can _only_ do that one thing well. If a situation arises where said specialized frame needs to do something outside its specialization, it…kinda cant.
That’s why I’ve mained Frost as long as I have, and why I will continue to main him until the day Warframe dies - because few others accept that Frost’s strong point is his adaptability.
Sounds like DE should hire this Nev guy… Frost needs a rework so bad. One of my top frames that I wanna see reworked.
You can definitely tell there was a definite shift in the design philosophy of Warframe, how a lot of the early warframes are fairly simple with few if any synergistic effects and abilities or forego that entirely with plain utility skills like Valkyr's ripline, and how the modern warframes all synergize with/around a core mechanic of the frame. Gauss' Redline, Wisp's motes and wisps, Sevagoth's gloom and exalted shadow. It really does make these older warframes feel incredibly dated and in dire need of some TLC.
Im a frost main when i started warframe was a rhino main then i tried frost. Last week i bought Frost Prime which i dont regret. I just hope my ice box gets more love soon lol. I was born christmas eve and always loved sub zero as a kid in mortal kombat. To me frost just screams my style.
I’ve been waiting so long for this video 🎉
I have been waiting for you to make this video of frost for so long as someone with 10k hours in the game and still mostly plays frost thank you 🎉
Frost Prime was my first frame, I started playing when he was free for some reason.
While he might not be "meta" he is still one of my favourites, he also has some great fashion!
Took a few years before he fell from my most played frame❤
For Nev's concept, I'd make the Snowglobe only get 4x instead of 5x Armor Multiplier as Health, BUT make it gain a flat 3x Overguard to Health conversion each time YOUR abilities generate Overguard while inside of it. This way it avoids having to be recast as often but also isn't completely passive, requiring you to use your other abilities to keep building it up.
Alot of these clips are such throwbacks. The regular frost skin with the original amphis. My two very first crafting goals in warframe.
I remember saving the frost release wallpaper to my Pc
I've been thoroughly enjoying his overguard augment. He's currently one of my favorite sp endurance frames and makes it so easy xD
Can we somehow wave this rework concept at Pablo? Although Frost is in an ok place with the balance, changes and arcanes like primary frostbite he's very one note and repetitive, especially with his 3 becoming essentially useless in the high mobility meta that's coming in with the whispers tile sets, 1 and 2 are a waste of energy so we use him to abuse his all in one ability and occasionally check DMs, the change in playstyle to more of a tank, cc, weapon platform would make him very unique with how he would achieve that, like rhino but with a very different way to play is a great thing for variety.
That music intro is a vibe
38:50 granum plasmor???
Passive: Like Embers, but instead of power strenght give him energy siphon like effect for each enemy affected by cold proc in affinity range (or ceratin range if thats too big, you can also give him the cap if it turns out its too much in the testing but with how many other broken energy economy crap we have I doubt it would). This alone greatly fixes eneryg economy on him, even to the degree of not needing flow or efficiency (with better base energy poool ofc, that one is a given fix that he needs)
1st: just ake it cone shape and make it proc cold to work with his new passive, while also having harrow like effect of giving him armor buff for each enemy hit, or some other buff, but make it cheap quick form of buffing him and utilising his passive
2nd: either make it a plunder like ability or make it AOE coverage and give him status immunity while standing on it or something of the sort
3rd: just give it hold to cast to walk with it, and make it proc cold whenever enemies touch it
4th: stays the same
this is the hydroid treatment of making him almost the same while giving him some chunky lifts to abilities, making it very easy for devs while making frost a fun ability caster that still can do the exact same thing he has been doing, while also having other things
Edit: I really like the augment for his 3rd that allies could pick up the globe and get armour buff, that sounds very unique and fun and Im even up for making that part of his 3rd and not the augment
For someone who played Warframe in 2014-2015, it was nice to hear about the history of the frame up to 2023. I remember using Rhino, Trinity and Nekros for farming survival and Frost mainly for excavation/defense, but remember not using it when snowglobe had Health.
I still give any frost players the respect.
Man seeing the timeline of everything happening alongside frost is so crazily nostalgic
I still remember when i was starting and fell in love with his concept of being a big strong wall of ice that could freeze anything. I used him a lot and after some time i found out there was a prime version and for months farmed and buyed his different pieces except his Systems if i'm not wrong, one day a good guy just found out the reason i was trying to sell anything was trying to get that one last piece so he said something like "hey, if you want we can try to get it, for free" he was just being nice for no reason, just being a good person and a big reason to love the game, the people is usually nice to you, so we went for it and in the first try we failed and the second was the last try since he didn't have more relics but right there the miracle happened, his systems were there to pick them, i had finally obtained my favourite frame till this day. I think i have spent more plat than any other frame just to Fashion frame on him and i don't regret doing it.
" How loki vanished "
Xd
"How Loki turned the community on itself"
Wait shit, that would be with the Disarm augment lol
yknow your voice is actually calming when its in a professional video and not in a discord vc lol
Homie I was recovering from a flu while recording for the first half of the vid, I sound nasally as hell
@@NovaUmbral nah, i dont hear that at all
Maybe im just deaf 🤷♂️
People always say we have no healer focused frames, yet we have Trinity lol.
Why bring trinity at all when Warframes all have access to a healing ability due to helminth? She has 1 place in the current sandbox and that's eidolons.
@@leonseuropeanislandadventu7398
I use Oberon for eidolons
on a fun note "marked for death" can allow for some group vaporizing shenanigans with a gas nataruk when mixed with biting frost and avalanche.
I've started seeing a sort of revival of Frost. I'm now seeing him frequently in relays and lobbies. Good to see them rocking epic fashion frames lol
Frost is honestly pretty good nowadays. It's just one ability that carries him, but daaaaaamn that AOE armor strip+cc+overguard is juicy.
I really like the idea of Frost getting raised maximum for cold procs, both gameplay-wise and and presentation-wise really makes him look as a master of his element
I enjoy the history of each frame you focus on in each video and look forward to every video from NovaUmbral. I started playing during Echos of Zaramin/Khora Prime Access so I find the history lesson and recap enjoyable info. I learned more on how to actually play and utilize Harrow from your video than any other WF streamer/content creator shared. Because of NovaUmbral and The Kengineer I now use Lavos as my secondary main because Lavos just fits and just works for me and how I play WF.
Not saying this to be toxic or to troll, you sound bitterly cold in the first 35mins of the video while going over the history of the Game Updates and how the updates apply to one of the oldest frames. It sounds personal, as in NovaUmbral is fed up and wants Frost to be the SubZero of WF again and is tired of the short stick. I agree, Frost should be Bihan of WF. Frost should outclass glass and chains, Frost and cold can be better and should be.
Sorry I lost interest during the player Nev rework section after like 3mins and fast forwarded to the closing thoughts.The technical talk made me glassy eyed and was just over my head. I'm not into theory crafting or game development, I just play to be a bad ass space wizard powered cyber ninja taking. Otherwise I loved the video like all the content I've seen from NovaUmbral.
Let's just say.. there was a chilling wind for the first 15-25 min...
Yo that nev guy really b yappin tho
Yeah he really do, ngl
Calm down inaros main SantaPepe
Frost become meta in my eyes when the helminth option for adding dispensary on him, giving him infinite energy to allow him to spam his 4th ability. You would have to build for a lot of strength to fully strip but this didn't really matter with dispensary. The augment now is identical to how it functioned before the health type just changed, so while it was (and is) extremely minor even on steel path it now also gives him a free gate in addition to his shield gate.
Overall his only issue is single enemies like acolytes if they are not surrounded by enemies for frost to overguard steal from.
Man I miss stacking globes :(
I really struggled my first two days on so, this is my 4th. I died constantly to base so eximus leech etc. frost has helped me so so much just modding for efficiency strength and stretch has made me able to strip armor very easily. Thank you frost I was about to give up.
A great video about my first main and favorite frame the Chill Boi. My rework idea of him would be to make Frost more buff focused to make him feel like he helps hold the team together. His new passive makes killing frozen enemies give overwhelms to Frost and nearby allies. His new 1 Shatter is an aoe ground slam that deals double damage against frozen targets. His new 2 cold snap gives a cold damage and status chance buff to ally weapons. His 3 is mostly the same but can be cast on allies, and using Shatter while in it gives everyone inside overguard based in the globes health. And His 4 is also mostly the same but gives allies DR based on the number if targets hit. Give him all 3 forms of survivability (weaker obviously) to really make him feel like a defensive powerhouse.
I'd like to see an augment or rework to change snowglobe into an ironskin-style overguard for everything in range.
No more blocking your own team's shots.
Honestly, if snow globe didn't stop team shots, it would make the game so much more fun.
46:58
Yeah no frames have AOE armor strips AND vulnerability right.
(Cries in my 6 forma caliban)
He's the coolest.
Very enjoyable video
Tbh, i only do relic defense, mobile defense and interception. And I think the way frost is now is fine if not really good. Icy avalanche and biting frost is amazing.
Yea I’ve wave sucks for dps so I ain’t gonna argue there.
"How Titania flew through Warframe"
Ash video when. This is not a request, this is a threat. Me and all my fellas will steal your polymers under smoke screens augment effect
Shit listen... we can work something out, hear me out.
@@NovaUmbral you heard me. Polymers or ash video. Your choice lad
@@h4ven01de4 go for the Oxium too
@@NovaUmbral hmu if you decide to make it tho. I've played ash for almost 11 years by now, if i can be of help
join the disc
his back, my man his baaaaaack
Jade Shadows: guess who's going to get some changes alongside the faction weakness changes
As the video ended, i have finished leveling up my frost in SO, poetic.
Lmao literally yesterday I went to check if you had a frost video.
I love these vids of yours, realy takes me back haha
I'm a Nezha main and curious when you'll do a video on him?
So happy that one person isn’t working on warframe and has moved onto a different game. Imo the game has been thriving and doing so much better in every way.
Gara, Second defensive frame.
Limbo- “you see me?”
The frost skin you have is sick!
I had no intentions of actually getting it until the holidays where a family member who watches my videos gifted it to me, it is nice despite the hefty price tag
@NovaUmbral I couldn't even see it in the store I was looking though 🤣
Commenting after Jade Shadows update.
Frost is extremely OP with his augments. Red crits everywhere. I dare say meta too.
As a Frost main I always wondered why there was no special effect from shooting from the globe, like Volt has. My idea was to have an Augment that grants bonus cold and crit by shooting from the globe. I was also thinking about allowing it to be mobile. There is so much that can be done with my boy, I hope we will see some modernization as dmg is the sole meta now.
I think that would be nice also shooting into a bubble and make the bullets of you and friends get that effect. Idk how many times i hear as a frost main your bubble blocked my shot.
Its been over 2 years since I've seen a Frost in the wild
Seeing the sad decay of team based composition in Warframe in favor of solo nuking reminds me.. can you do a video on my favorite frame, Vauban? He has a sad history similar to Frost.
I wouldn't say its the same tale as Frost since Vauban got extremely lucky with his kit going forward, but Vauban will come 2024 :)
As someone who has Frost as a most played warframe im absolutely in love with the concept. I wish DE would listen and try to implement at least something similar if not the same.
Also if you asked me for info on frost, i could have told you that the augment mod for frost's freeze, freeze force, would "stick" to enemies and for the entire duration of the cold damage boost they would emit cold damage and procs in an aoe around them due to a bug. DE fixed this bug at least 3 times, but it kept coming back. I used this to make a meme build where i used a roller to defeat 5 waves of infested defense by just it having those cold procs on it.
This was finally fixed by DE changing the augment to give cold damage as an aoe on hold, rather than using the freeze projectile to do it.
Oh wow... I had no idea, what the hell.
well will do on other beta frames when I get around to them.
I made 5 videos at least on it at the time pretty sure if you want to check that out in action, just look up freeze force @@NovaUmbral
I made a reply but it likely got put in your spam filter@@NovaUmbral
Gotcha, was a bit silly on me for not checking but thanks for the further info
Nev's idea on a frost rework sounds amazing i would hope they atleast do something similar
This boi despite me playing for 7 years now on console is still my most used frane
The suggested rework is amazing ! I sure hope he will get SOMETHIG direct to him
Ice wave is good for slowing enemies with overguard, where avalanche's freeze doesn't work
Thank you, now I have to remove the dust from my frost and play him
41:48 oh my void. only now I understood how Precision Intensify worked, I always thought it works like Protea Passive, but was bugged to always be applying, bot not, incredible. (I mean, conveniently enough, I only tested on the 4th skills of all the frames I used lmao) ty I guess
My rework idea:
Passive - Freezing enemies is possible with all sources of cold procs.
- Enemies killed with Cold DMG will drop a pillar of Ice that counts as a fragment of a wall that makes up a Cube, lasts until shattered. Once shattered it releases Cold aoe that builds up Cold procs. Those close to a pillar of ice are passively slowed down with cold procs until frozen.
- Also the Ice drops HP and AMMO when shattered by any source. Puncture Procs also Procs Cold status.
1 STASIS Blast - throw a Hammer of Ice that bounces once and then detonates. Like a bouncy grenade. Deals IPS, Blast and Cold.
- Hold down to shoot like a projectile (like it does rn). This version deals pure Cold.
- On a surface except for walls and ceilings, it will create a wall of 3 pillars of ice. Enemies near the Ice Slow down but take no dmg only Cold Procs.
- Any of the two will freeze instantly if aimed well. Using the Hold Fire increases the Ice Pillars reach as it adds more Pillars to the point of creating a Cube of Ice.
2 Stasis Wave - Swing your Ice Hammer from side to side hitting targets like Gara's 1st, freezing them instantly and as a bonus a wave of ice Pillars will grow from the hammers trajectory traveling through the floor.
- The amount of ice created will negate movement and enemy flow on the map. But players can walkthrough it. Bosses (except minibosses) are immune to the ice and breaks it instantly by simply walking over it.
- Holddown to control how far the ice wall/wave should travel, release it to spawn. Very similar to Zelda TOTK Yiga clan secret ability.
- The Hammer will work like a pseudo Exalted weapon like Khoras 1st, scales off of Cold, IPS and Blast.
3 Stasis Globe - Same but can be carried if held when casting. AND ALLIES CAN SHOOT from any direction no matter. Shooting from inside imbues weapona with Cold, Blast and Puncture to all weapons, amps and abilities.
- If you break the Ice Globe it will drop ammo and Health.
4 Stasis Storm - Slam a heavy Ice Hammer into the grown to spawn a Cube of Ice from which a Vortex of cold energy will violently trash enemies if close.
- Allies gain Overguard if close as the buff starts to decay once you leave the area.
- It strips armor. Enemies killed by the storm Drop extra Health and ammo. If active while near a pillar of ice it will become a large cube
- Ice cube deals tripple the effect of a base Ice Pillar when stading near it and when shattering it.
- The AOE does Deal heavy IPS, Blast and Cold DMG unlike a Pillar of ice.
- Basically you can create a field of Ice cubes that negates enemy advances but mind you, the cubes arent immortal.
- Use your Hammer abilities to Push the Cube but mind you if it doesnt hit a wall (only walls ) it will crash and break on contact.
Holy shit, i actually forgot snowglobe used to have a duration. And this is a guy who did 160 waves in the old infested mission to farm trinity prime.
Another W for gauss
1. i learned stuff i didn't know about frost before so thanks 2. i agree with the idea of reworked 1 and 2 but not the 3 and 4, mainly the hold ability for his 3 and discount world of fire for his 4.
Nevs rework idea is very similar to what i thought of when i was brainstorming a frost rework. so i hope DE will go in that direction as well when they eventually rework him