Why is this airline BANNED in Europe? Flying the AIR MANAS A220
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- Опубликовано: 17 июл 2021
- Air Manas are the first (and so far only) operator of the Airbus A220 in Central Asia. But why are they still banned from flying in Europe?
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The EU ban is for "All air carriers certified by the authorities with responsibility for regulatory oversight of Kyrgyzstan" - which typically means they don't trust the aviation regulator to actually regulate.
FAA gets nervous...
Money in the right pocket and the planes got Ok on checks
@@brentsummers7377 So? The FAA doesn't regulate aviation in the EU...
I wouldn't trust anything from that part either. especially Turks.
@@maxfactor4209 All airlines from Sudan and two from Iran (one partially, one fully) are banned too.
A few years ago, I did the trip from Bishkek to Osh on a taxi with two friends. It took 11 hours, cost us a grand total of $80 and allowed us to enjoy the spectacular landscapes, ranging from mountain passes to a beautiful lake in a very hot and dry area of the country.
The ban is there for a very good reason, which is a systematic and willful failure to enforce mandatory regulations. The aircraft might be new and in top condition now..the question is how it will be in a few years when the typically very relaxed approach to maintennance and safety bulletins has had a chance to take effect.
this. people can call racism or whatever they want, but like when i fly a battered-down a320 that is rocking so hard while rolling in a calm wind situation that the engines are close to hitting the ground, no autopilot the entire 2hr flight, full flaps while still crusing altitude... like no. especially the last one. i thanked the designers of those airplanes so many times, cause it was surely not the maintenance guys who kept it going. i'm undecided on the crew, i'll never know how much of it was due to their lack of training and how much was bad maintenance. (this was with some small air asia subsidiary, so definitely not the worst you can get, but also not great by any means.)
Bullshit. Most current Kyrgyzstan airlines fly very old MD80/A320/RJ85/B733s and they’ve never had a serious accident outside of some hard landings. Also, this airline belongs to the Turkish Airlines.
This is like th EU being racist and ignorant as usual.
@@bryanm.4869 Yes, I agree. And I’m British.
Politics is also a reason when it comes to the EU. It's funny how all Russian carriers became unsafe overnight 😂
Good to see some things are looking up - Kyrgyzstan has so much potential. I think the EU ban had more to do with ground/security infrastructure than the domestic airlines
Yes, exactly. The problem is likely to be due to sloppy government control, so that when a spot check took place at a western airport of a Kyrgyz airliner, it failed. Once that happened too often, the whole country was banned. Then it was a case of "give a dog a bad name".
Yea I agree. None of the current Kyrgyzstan Airlines have had a fatality.
@@albertabound5124 yet...
@@user-ko5tn6qt1m One could think that u r looking forward for it to happen... meh
Nice to see your fellow passengers utilising the old "Chin hammock".
they all know its all fake political hype 👍😁
@@JK-dv3qe yh fuck the old and vulnerable people
I'm agreed with you about the Airbus A220, it's a fantastic jet to fly. It's not a DC9/717/MD but it's about as good as it gets in the modern era. great seat configuration.
The 3:2 seat configuration reminds me of my Fokker 100 days.
The A220 looks fantastic. It gives me good vibes and I have a feeling that this aircraft is as safe as you can get in kyrgyzstan.
So this is how you bring your own IFE, Kyrgyz style @ 16:30.
The design of the cabin ... with those posh orange seats ... is stunning.
Love the A220. Based in GVA, I get to fly it often. However, I find it unusually loud if you sit over wing or just behind the engines. Best is to sit up front or at the very back.
Thank you Noel for show a nice country like this !! I was there in 2009 and was amazing
I was their a month ago. Bishkek is such a lovely place.
✈️ Noel, you should plan a flight from Riga with AirBaltics Airbus A220-300 a.k.a CS300, and compare the flight with the inaugural flight witch you took 4.5y ago 😊 And also it would be an 'quality' update because, back in the day video was 360p and without any stabilization.
It's definitely more dangerous on the ground than in the air. Glad you avoided the scolding by Rachel for the loss of the card. 😂
It's not the aircraft you have to worry about, it's the Nimrods in the maintenance department.
I wonder if the ban was more infrastructure related. Most current Kyrgyzstan airlines fly very old MD80/A320/RJ85/B733s and they’ve never had a serious accident outside of some hard landings.
It's the entirety of the system. Can you buy your license, are the pilots properly type qualified, are they well practiced in CRM. It's easy to fly modern planes when nothing goes wrong. But when an engine fails during takeoff, will the pilots properly manage it? Air Manus may have all the programs in place, but who is auditing the performance of the processes? That's what gets your country banned. The US recently restricted Mexican carriers for regulation deficiencies, not a ban, but embarrassing.
i thought the Nimrod was retired years ago
Excellent video. Here in Canada I fly I on the A220-300, 2-3 times per month. It truly is a dream regional airplane. Thanks for sharing
Ah yes, when the domestic departure check-in is in the INTERNATIONAL area...
*LOGIC 100*
Hello, Beloved Supreme Leader!
Are you for real
Great video! The A220 is my favourite regional jets - such a capable little aircraft!
And pretty! Looks like a baby 787
Another great video. Keep up the good work Noel!
Love these videos on different airlines and areas!
8:20 my gosh the mum and the baby behind you, that was so adorable
The A220/ 320 Neo really are beautiful commercial aircraft Esp love those P&W geared turbofan engines w/ that odd 'howl' pre spool up Super quiet!
Air Austral the other day took delivery of their first A220-300 from Montréal and flew it to Paris Charles de Gaulle from New Brunswick Canada over Ireland and the UK.
We were supposed to do this flight together... thanks to covid! Great Video as always 😊
Omg yes my two favourite aviation enthusiasts! This needs to happen one day 🤞🏼🤞🏼
YES!!!! DO IT TOGETHER - ALL THE FLIGHTS> THAT WOULD BE AWESOME
Oof
How was this message posted 5 days ago? 🤷♂️RUclips errors again?
No Josh Cahill is too negative
He’s the one RUclipsr on RUclips who has to find a problem everything
One of the things regulators look at now is operational procedures and training. Specifically Crew Resource Management(CRM).
CRM goes into how flight crews interact. Do older experienced pilots rule the cockpit by intimidation or does the younger 1st officer have the ability thru training to raise questions in a difficult situation.
It is one of the reasons for a two person crew on the flight deck. In any number of aircraft incidents a co pilot quite literally sat on his hands as a senior pilot made deadly errors. The list is long of cases.
Many times a carrier and regulatory authority had to fight with cultural norms to make improvements.
In the US it has resulted in a period of over ten years without any passenger fatalities. It includes things like the USAir ditching in the Hudson River with no fatalities, in freezing cold temperatures.
Bet that taxi driver believes he's living in a Fast & Furious movie
I've been to Kyrgyzstan twice and I thought the driver seemed fairly calm compared to others I've seen 😂
I had a Taxi driver like that. Driving 120. Beeping at everyone that was driving slow in front of him. 😅😅
20:57 nearly the end headed into the terminal a guy had hand carried a small desktop with him on the flight. Fun stuff.
Great video as always! The livery is very Swiss. From instance you could be forgiven to think it was one of their A220. Air fares definitely seem to be very cheap in that part of the world. ✈️
7:35 A decent amount of leg room lol. Props to you keep up the vids.
Great vlog as always! If you still want to fly the MD-80, contact DAT, Danish Air Transport. They still have ONE MD-83 flying. OY-RUE. The last time I saw it on TV it was flying the danes home from England after fotball exit. I will do a deal with you. Ask how much the need to let us charter the plane, and we can rent it for a few hours…
Realy nice video great rewieving 8:22 that melody made me so happy that i cried.🙂
Great video as always, glad you got your card back
Excellent Amigo, hello from Dublin Ireland and God bless you on all your travels.
great video as always .you mentioned your taxi driver trying to break speed records.remember mine doing 98 miles an hour going to IST istanbul airport.glad your last taxi driver was'nt so fast as your were not wearing your seat belt.rachel will probably give you a bollocking for that and not the credit card.
Great video! You're the best!
Love the description of the cab ride 😂
Ho Noel,
A great little video, looking at check in and the chaos, you still see that in the UK.
I was just in Bishkek again (lived there a few years back) and booked the TezJet RJ85 because I’d only ever been on the 100 before! I didn’t know manas was even operating anymore because Kyrgyz airlines come and go so quickly 😂 this made me happy to see a bit of real Kyrgyz life seen by another foreigner and shown to the world, thanks Noel and sorry I couldn’t see y’a in Bishkek!
I really enjoyed your review Noel. Will pass it to my friend who works for Air Manas. And many thanks for your kind words about my homeland.
I had a brief visit to Manas in 2012. Your country is beautiful, and I definitely want to go back as a tourist.
14:39 Feels patriotic seeing "Champion KENYA" 🇰🇪 signage at the airport.
At SFO there are a few domestic airlines that check in at the international terminal, even for domestic flights. I want to say it was Virgin (before being acquired by Alaska) and a few others.
Love the content!
Great Video Noel, Air Manas seems a joy to fly, especially onboard the A220
Love the turquoise acoustic engine liner colour
The a220 looks really good
I would love to fly on it
Travelled to Kyrgyzstan for 20 years for work on a regular monthly rotation. Very different airport. In 1995,1996 when started there. Manas was interesting experience.Hotels were very interesting. No ATM’s back then.
Such a great video! To be honest I would probably do what you have done Noel and fly on both the old and modern planes! I have still not flown on the A220 yet but I really want to 😊
The 220 is a C series at core
I thought it was a Swiss International very similar scheme! I have been on CS100 and CS300 great aircraft to fly. 👍😊
Great video 🛫✈️
I had a similar experience with the check in at FRU. Confusing! The new A 220 is a great improvement over the old 737-700 I flew the last time I went to Osh. Thanks for the video!
18:17 lovely music and amazing scenery😍❤️❤️❤️❤️
Hi
You genuinely make amazing videos and the reviews are very informative, covering just the right amount of information coupled up with the uncanny humour. I hope you visit Lahore, Pakistan someday and I can take you around the city. Great content, I watch all your videos ever since you had 20k subscribers.
Cheers Noel!
GREAT VIDEO NOEL I LOVE IT
I enjoyed the video!
The EU doesent trust that the Kyrgys Aviation people will actually Regulate the Airlines properly, and enforce safety standards even if the individual company is doing great. Air Manas Might get an Exception like certain other countries airlines have gotten before despite the Ban on the countrys airlines.
Look what the A220 did to Air Baltic, its amazing. It can transform an entire airline massively. It’s good to maintain, hyper efficient, very safe, great payload, good range, great comfort. It’s an amazing plane by bombardier. Great that Airbus did the merge with bombardier.
They did nothing to that company what are you talkin about
I have made one flight on the A220 from MAN-ZRH and was very impressed indeed with what I found. Really comfortable and nicely finished inside and those overhead bins are Huuuuge
Airbus practically stole the Bombardier CSeries project.
That difficult ATM seems unusual to me, too! I am surprised and pleased you were able to get them to help you retrieve your card. Actually, very surprised!
I'm new to your channel and its brilliant content mate 👌 well done
Welcome aboard!
Very smooth landing I must say on the first flight
i loved the flight i enjoy flying with you all the time i also love the country brings back a long lost feeling deja vu you can say greetings from the netherlands
A new aircraft does not mean good regulatory oversight…
Keep up the great videos 🌏
Thanks, will do!
Awesome plane with the 2-3 seats the huge toilet at the back!
14:36 Love the woman checking in holding a framed painting. 😂
Brings back memories of flying out of Manas, checking in is so disorganised and last minute......you realise how orderly other airports are!
Bangkok air have great Air con,Hopefully get back to Koh Samui soon.. Have you been on Bangkok air ?, nice wee flight to Samui take under 1hr.. Great videos keep up the good work.
Great video! How do you attach the camera to the window for these beautifull time laps shots? :)
Looks like you need a curve card sponsorship deal Noel 😉 - have had the exact same happen to me in regards to foreign atms swallowing my card. I wasn't quite as lucky as you getting mine back, the Thai bank just said, get a new one aha.
I’m still waiting on Delta to get the 220 flying more often.
Always a pleasure watching your videos , very informative with a funny twist . Keep up the good work Noel and hope to see you one day here in Perth , Western Australia and join me for a flight on my electric hydrofoils .
I do wonder sometimes how some airlines manage to remain banned and others with quite questionable practices are allowed to continue operating. Thanks for the video, Noel.
Sometimes it's only because of country of operations.
It’s political and xenophobia.
@@thetraveller334 Lol, it’s known that such countries are seriously corrupt from government to corporations, including lax safety checks and often fraud when it comes to pilot experience. EU is right to ban such airliners who pose danger here.
@@SR-ur7yl and none of the Countries in the EU is corrupt?
@@thetraveller334 not xenophobic but political. For example, North Korean airline companies are banned from flying North America and the EU due to being a state own entity and also because of lax inspection.
Definitely the A220 for me, what a beautiful plane x
Great video
love these oddball airlines, and the content not just about the flights, THANKS
All because a plane is new, doesn't mean it is safe to fly. How it is being maintained, and flown is very important to safety.
Noel Lovely report.Could you tell me in your point view ( passenger) what's makes A220 better than Embraer E2?
To be honest I’ve only flown the E2 once. It’s a nice plane, but I flew it with an airline that crammed in a lot of seats (Widerøe), so it’s not a fair comparison. I’d love to try it with an airline that gives you a bit more space.
@@noelphilips I've seen this report it was a Norwegian carrier.Maybe you should try KLM.Thanks for the answer, I am a great fan of your channel
Fair point about blanket EU ban on Kyrg airlines. However thanks to Brexit there is absolutely nothing that UK can do to influence EU to change this policy.
The Bombardier CSeries is not a regional airliner. Its range is similar to A320neo.
16:29 Desktop CPU hand baggage 🙂🖥
16:48 ScareCrow
Great pickup!! Significantly improved my enjoyment of an already good video!
@@melglobus thank you
Airbus, wich you flew firstly was to be delivered to Red Wings, and after 2 years Air Manas took this plane.
Can I please ask what the music was during the end when you were explaining the old planes for geeks and new planes for regular fliers?
heard you radio5live while watching your helsinki to gatwick trip
Great Video! Watching from the departure lounge at Edinburgh Airport 😊
I notice the A220s have a funny roaring engine noise as they come into land, AirBaltic has a few, and where I visit in Lithuania the approach path to VNO is right above, and as those A220s come over the reduce in throttle causes a big roar. Any ideas what that roar is? As I noticed on the takeoff here that it made a roar.
I have heard that it's caused by the power transfer unit. However, I'm not 100% sure about it.
My Taxi driver in Bishkek was Zooming like Noel's one was as well. Driving at like 120. 😅😅
And Beeping at peopls that were driving to slow. 😅😅
Beating the babushkas might be frowned upon in that part of the world Noel 😂😂😂
Is this the custom of flight crew to close and lock the flightdeck door before boardinf PAX and now opening them until the cabin is empty? This gives no chance for aviation fans like us no chance toeven see the flight deck whilst on the ground. I noticed upon boarding the door to the cockpit was alread closed. Also on one of your flights on the new Chinese build plane the flight crew came out to the PAX cabin and would not let even Aviation enthusiastes to even SEE the cockpit?
I know in the west at least after a flight upon disembarking that the flight crew would liet one stick their head into the cockpit to see it. (Maybe since 2017 my last flight on SAS they were sort of accommodating in this regard).
Let me know if you can about Asia.
I don't think I have heard of this C Series/A220 operater before, it sounds like an interesting operater for this aircraft type.
Hi. A220 is another name for the C Series of jets. C Series jets were originally designed by Bombardier Aerospace of Dorval, Quebec, Canada. Bombardier Aerospace entered into a partnership with Airbus in 2018, with Airbus acquiring 50.01%, Bombardier retaining 31% and Investissement Quebec 19%.
@@neilstrickland4937 I said C Series/A220 because I know that there are some people who are still going to refer to it as the C Series, I have heardsome people refer to MD-80s as the DC-9. I just thought I clarify that.
@@jacesobey6498 Thanks for the clarification.
@@neilstrickland4937 Your welcome.
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Wait considering we’re not in the EU anymore, are Kyrgyz airlines still banned for us?
yes, they can't fly over EU airspace, not just land in it
@@Tanzadog1 oh yeah fair I didn’t think of that
@@Tanzadog1 it’s so fuck up
Its not usually the aircraft which are banned. Its the pilots themselves. Many of these country's have been found to have pilots without licences etc
Why is there no A220 in Europe? Three years ago, I flew this plane (although then it was called CS300) from Riga to Amsterdam and back from Riga to Moscow.. It was the first A220 of "Air Baltic"
Swiss flies 30 A220's and Air France is set to receive their first at the end of September!
The ban could be to pilot training or plane maintenance or lack off
Nice video
What are the blue, teal, white 747 in the background?
Safety is about maintenance regimes not how new and shiny a plane is!
Noel 17.35, what are the planes on the grass, about 7/8 of them.
have you seen the aircraft bone yard near the osh airport? Full of some of the finest soviet aircrafts!
I wonder how many charges they made on his card before he got it back.
The question is..what will happen when it requires more maintenance? Will the same standards remain?