Highland Railway 'Ben Alder' (Paint Your Engine)
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- Опубликовано: 19 сен 2024
- Painting the Highland Railway 'C' class 4-4-0 'Ben Alder'
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I don't get why some people think "photorealistic" is the be-all and end-all of railway painting. I mean, you wouldn't call Monet a bad painter.
Sometimes getting the feeling and movement is enough
Before the impressionists many artists painted in just studios. Until the invention of the aluminium tube. Then it was possible to paint outside. But to paint quickly and loosely was the best way the capture the moment with light or movement etc. 🙂bit random. But a little relatable.
Can I get in for writing my name on the side of the coach, in an artistic way you understand... it's art, it's on a railway, it adds to a railway.
Jago, you get around.......
Ah, that is interesting. I am a fan of photorealism, very much so, but I concede that for transport studies, especially trains, a blend of photorealism and impressionism maybe the best way.
Steam engines, a pint of beer and a bass guitar - top work
As an artist myself, I found this video to be very relatable. I thoroughly enjoyed watching this process from start to finish, and it was good to pick up on info about Ben Alder I wouldn't have known until now. Personally, I think this would be good way of talking about extinct classes of steam locomotives, and I'd not only encourage more like this in the future, but I'd also be more than happy to buy a picture too. Great work there, hope to see more in the future.
I'm glad you agree the "Guild" have impossibly high standards. My dad tried to join but they didn't like his style, which I guess is watercolour impressionism, not the oil on canvas photo-realistic style the Guild seem to insist on. Anyhoo, good luck with the artistic venture.
That’s a shame they rejected your dad’s art! Anywhere I’d be able to see it, it sound better than anything I could ever do
Well, thats just how the guild system works.
Doesn't mean he's no good or indeed that no one in it appreciated his talents just means those who could make the choice chose a no, lots of people get a polite no and apply agian later for similar things and get in. Never take it to heart, always ask for constructive critism, above all if you don't like what they do anyway just don't apply.
@@Trainskitsetc that’s not really the attitude of other art glides or groups these days. They usually encourage different styles. If the great artists in history always followed the norm, you’d get no Monet or Van Goghs.
@@Watermillfilms yeah, gonna say this in as kind of a way as I can but, it'll change when a few old tossers snuff it.
No one normal cares if you're in it😅 the individual looking at paintings cares if they like your paintings not which knobs you know.
As a lifelong rail enthusiast and a fan of Bob Ross, I quite enjoyed it. Painting happy locos. What a pleasant idea!
And right over here, we'll paint a happy little train.
What a wonderful little concept for a video. I am rather impressed as your painting skill, as amateur railway painter myself. Fantastic work.
That opening line absolutely had me 🤣 "those of you who have nothing else to do but watch me"... guess I'm guilty as charged! 😆
It’s interesting when history and painting art is combined together into an interesting “what if” thought in painting art and history
The Highland Railway is my favourite Pre Grouping Railway! And This is a great painting!
as a steam enthusiast, and a professional artist myself, I have to say, Chris is going about this right. don't take your art too seriously- and especially with paint don't worry about getting it right, the medium is more fickle than a real E2.
and while I cringe a little at a thicker paint being used on paper, honestly, it's ok. paint and paper is expensive (which incidentally is why I don't paint much anymore myself).
all in all, this art looks fantastic (especially since doing art of steam engines is a pain because of all the tiny details). good work, would love to see more!
I'd love to see more paint your engine in the future I'd love to see you talk about the neilson box tank locomotives
Very soothing review of a steam locomotive! I’m digging the new format! What I like is that your very unpretentious about painting and the way your going about it. I think too many people take things way too seriously that they become snobs and shun people they think are unworthy. “HOW DARE YOU NOT USE CANVAS!” And things like that. I’m a firm believer that if you enjoy doing something it should be fun and you shouldn’t let an expert suck out the fun.
When I was art school we used a canvas textured paper that you would rip out of a book and then we were instructed to sketch out what we wanted to draw with pencil, then paint it in. It always seemed like a chore to me. I prefer just going in and allowing my brush to form the painting rather then what I felt like was “paint in the numbers”. Not that I have anything against paint in the numbers it’s just I do paint in the numbers when I don’t want to go through the hassle of doing “art” and I just want to paint. In an art class I want to do art.
My art teacher always hated when I drew steam locomotives, she always wanted me to try something new. But she was a good teacher and she did teach me a lot. Those were good times.
Again Chris, loved the new format, you did a good job with the painting and I learned a lot. Keep it up!
"A happy little loco"..
(nice work Chris')
My suggestion was that if funds were available, you may like to travel to other countries to visit railway museums. Australia comes to mind, we have several great rail museums over here. The weather is not too bad either!
Yes, come around June, guarenteed sunshine every day while visiting newport or puffing billy... 🤫🤫🤫
@@Trainskitsetc Not Victoria. Excellent rail museums to be found in N.S.W. and I believe Qld. has at least 2 good rail museums.
@@bonzer101 nah victoria has good shtuff, south Australia as well. Melbourne is probably the only state capital where you could come for a short break and visit steam railways running on 4 different gauges and be in with a chance of encountering a mainline steam service you can afford to ride.
As an Artist myself
That is really great artistic you did there Chris!
Please for the love of god no one ask for the E2.
Edit: Sidenote, the painting came absolutely gorgeous! Surprising considering how long it’s been since you last painted
He already did a video on the E2s as part of his Gauge the Issue series.
I LOVE this! What a great idea you total legend 😎
Although I like trains, I haven't put much of my own research into them so it's nice to hear about the ones that didn't survive through videos like this. The painting was good too! One critique - you may want to check your video workflow (camera settings, editor settings, etc) to make sure everything is set to use progressive video frames and not interlaced, the interlacing artifacts (horizontal lines) get pretty bad with the sped-up footage. If the camera can only record interlaced footage, you'll need to deinterlace it in your editing software.
What I’d love to see you paint, is possibly one of the most Obscure Continental Locomotives made by Belgium. The Belgian; “Franco-Crosti Quadruplex”
This is a brilliant concept!
nice one Chris.
Fun change of pace, definitely would be up to seeing more of these in the future.
Like to sit down and dabble with chalk from time to time on an old board I did up with chalkboard paint, if nothing else it's good for getting my mind off of things. Chalk's cheap and plentiful, and a wet rag or an eraser tends to any mistakes.
wonderful video
Wonderful rendition of Ben Alder, Mr. Chris Eden-Green. Welcome to the life of a railway artist where everyone draws or paints their own engines according to their imaginations. Looking forward to seeing your future works.
This is interesting seeing you paint, rather than showing us footage or images of the class.
2:56 "We don't make mistakes, we just have happy accidents"
Really liked that. Almost therapeutic in a way. Would definitely be interested in more of these if you so wished Chris.
I quite like how this turned out. I thought I would just run it as a podcast in the background, but I ended up watching the whole thing, start to finish.
Please do more like this maybe you can do one of a bulleid in Southampton docks arriving at RMS queen Mary as people get off the Atlantic coast express and onto the ship just a thought but recently I have been getting back into ships so much so I’m gonna set out to rescue a ship wich sunk in World War One but it’s relatively intact but the scenes of a bulleid with the casing and the headboard arriving next to queen Mary are just amazing
I remember while doing some reading on the LSWR and chief engineer Dugald Drummond's past for the Scottish railways, that his brother Peter had designed the C class that if you squint carefully at the dimension's that they nearly matched that of Dugald's T9 design. I always often thought it was "the Drummond design tradition" in a way since a lot of details from the Ben's and Greyhound's can be seen on a lot of examples the brother had designed
Would love to see more of this series, very relaxing and entertaining format. Keep up the good work
What a nice new idea! I might have to have a go myself as I think I might have some old paints knocking about somewhere.
This just makes me want to pick up a pencil and try drawing locos
great video Chris!
great video hope fully good luck to the people who trying to build a new ben alder steam loco 🚂👍
Great video idea! Cant wait to see more
An interesting new video concept, a nice relaxing talk on a extinct loco whilst you paint the said loco. I look forward to more
Hi Chris, thanks for putting up a lovely, relaxing video, you've done a lot better than I could,(I couldn't paint a barn door if it fell on top of me), many years ago, my late father built a static model of a Ben Class loco, which he named "Ben Romach", I'm not sure if there really was a loco of that name, or if it was just modellers license, but,as I've inherited it, I'm considering uploading a short video about it ( if anyone wants to see it), anyway, stay safe, all the best from Scotland, Stephen.
M7 30133 is the engine allegedly kept back to provide a 'Drummond' boiler for the engine. There are numerous photos of the engine dumped at Fratton Shed together with other engines which were officially persevered (or put aside for preservation but were cut up later anyway) However 30133 was broken up in 1965, two years before Alder. Could be all b#llsh#t. And some of the engines which were persevered in the national collection aren't 100% either so I not sure the boiler was the reason for the change of heart...
good luck 👌👍👌👍 beautiful
Great video, love the idea! Just wanted to say, I quite like your take on the W1 at 1:40, it's really nice. Gives me that LNER promotional poster/arc deco vibe
This idea is so crazy I was wondering if it's a belated April Fools' joke! This is genius! This is so crazy it's brilliant! This was something I didn't know I needed! Hahahaha!
I've been enjoying drawing locomotives myself lately. They're damn difficult, what with all the little bits and bobs sticking out. American steam locomotives are worse I think. Their British counterparts seem to have their stuff more hidden away. I was drawing an engine on a birthday card for my girlfriend, and at first sketched out an American narrow guage locomotive similar to ones I've drawn before (for my Dad who loves Maine narrow gauge), but decided to use an Irish locomotive instead (her birthday is on St. Patrick's day). I used a picture of GS&WR Class 101, No. 186 (RPI's oldest preserved engine) as a basis, and smoothed out all the external bits the American style sketch had － the light, the bell, the cow catcher － the mechanical silhouette I had initially conceived suddenly was just.... Thomas. I love Awdry's world, but the atmosphere felt slightly wrong, lol.
In the end I decided to add a light, bell, and cow catcher under the buffers, because my Irish engine is going to America, and would legally need those things, hahaha. Not only a good excuse, but a symbolically resonant one for my very Irish-American girlfriend born on St. Patrick' Day. Also, I'm moving back to America soon so the image represents that too, the train bringing me home. Love it when details done out of a pathological need for accuracy can actually add to the work. hahaha.
I look forward to watching more of these as you make them, and seeing how you steadily improve! Nothing is more beautiful than seeing someone develop and grow! This is going to be so fun, so unique and brilliant! It's such a fitting way to show what locomotives mean to people like us, how they inspire us and captivate us. Just so brilliant!
I think you're right not to bother with canvas. The way I see it, the end goal is not a professional physical painting you can sell or something, but the video of you making it, capturing the learning process you're going through, as you talk about the locomotives inspiring you. You don't need expensive canvas for that.
On thing I'd like to ask: could you make your copyright mark just slightly less intrusive. I understand why you want it there, to protect your video and artwork from pirates, and that you likely need it intrusive enough it can't be cropped out. However, I have a hard time tuning out visual clutter like that so the way you have it now was quite distracting. I kept thinking about how much I wish it wasn't there instead of enjoying your art and voice! So anyway, if you can find a slightly better balance for next time I'll be very happy. I'll try not to let it get to me too much though regardless.
This is very nice
Well done
nice paintings still better than me!
Great video Chris, I’d love to see more like it!
Just went and had a loco at the class list. They didn't name any loco Ben Nevis. Another missed opportunity. Story of this class life.
But Ben Nevis was not in Highland Railway territory.
Apparently no.1 was originally called Ben Nevis - and then somebody pointed out that Ben Nevis was close to Fort William on the West Highland line, and therefore on North British Railway territory. That would never do! So it was hastily renamed Ben Wyvis, I think before it went into service.
Can I have a photocopy, It look brilliant, good work!
Hey you can be the rail enthusiast version of Bob Ross!
Love this format, can't wait to see what else appears in the future, (Drummond's Bug will be where my hopes lie). As an aside, the copyright of railway archive is baffling at times and super unclear, really annoying for trying to use it
Caledonia Works is pretty reliable for accuracy
Just a suggestion, why not sell your paintings as a fundraisers for future overseas discovery trips. Just sayìn.
It depends if they're really good enough for people to want to buy
@@ChristheXelent I'd certainly be interested in one if you do begin selling them. You could even do art on commission, although that could become quite demanding on time, which is rather limited these days.
Tape your paper to a board, dampen the whole thing, let dry. You have stretched your canvas
Chris reading 2102 is back in steam
Sorry, the T1s still lost the vote
Great idea Chris. Is that a Westone Thunder II bass next to your chair?
Do a video of a LNER j50
This looks better than the "art" in my local art gallery.
Nice job
Any plans for another episode like this ?
Or is this a one off ?
Be good if this becomes a new series.
Nice painting but why the broad gauge track?
Please could you cover other Pre Grouping Scottish classes
Hi Chris. I was wondering if there were and re-vitalised railway stations, perhaps complete with a local loco, that you could visit and give a tour of ? ( Covid permitting, of course )
Insert some obligatory E2 reference here.
I think the photo realism of some of the GRA artists is technically excellent but ultimately a waste of time. There’s no feeling. Impressionistic work is usually more evocative
More power to your brushes
Steam loco in USA?🛣️🚂🤔🤔🤔
Ben do you love god
Ben:no
Sorry Chris not me ..
Is that an attempt at a beard? Hm, that might work.
Do you take requests for images?
I know you probably won't see this but could you please do one on the LNER k3 because that class from what I read one time was made the standard design of the LNER but I could just be completely wrong
The LNER had many standard designs appointed by Edward Thompson, the K3 was not one of those. Prior to Thompson, the LNER literally didn't have a standardisation policy, while the LNER did build several K3s, they were never a "standard" design (and indeed, there are many K3s that were running in "non-standard" configurations)
Are you going to paint an e2