Custom staircase out of 2x4’s part 3
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- Опубликовано: 28 янв 2023
- Adding a custom staircase to my loft made completely out of framing studs. Custom staircases can be very expensive, using basic materials from your local home improvement store, you can do it at a fraction of the cost.
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Some of the tools and products I used in this video.
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You should probably consult with a structural engineer. The surface area of where the two stringers meet is more vertical than horizontal, which essentially means it's a butt joint reinforced with four dominoes and glue. The application of dominoes and glue is great for furniture woodworking projects; however, it lacks the tensile strength needed for wood structures under load.
Perfectly explained.
Would you expect anything different from a moron calling a 2x8 or 2x6 a 2x4?
While you're correct, a 5/8th steel through bolt would suffice, assuming a max live load of 40psf.
I'm more concerned about the lack of heavy fasteners against the wall.
Well said.
@Thickok45 lmao
*Shearing force has violently entered the chat*
😅
He later adds custom steel brackets to capture the joints if you watch all the videos. Maybe spend more time working and less time on here judging people...
@@MarineCarpenter Why would I watch the rest of the videos after that first impression.
Cause you're a watcher and not a doer
@@MarineCarpenter Whatever you need to tell yourself. Make sure you go run your mouth to everyone else in the comments about how great you think this build is.
Load bearing dominos, neat.
They aren’t really load bearing because of the geometry of that intersection.
I don’t trust that connection either
Lol
He later adds custom steel brackets to capture the joints if you watch all the videos. Maybe spend more time working and less time on here judging people...
@@MarineCarpenter Yeah, right. Who are WE to judge (purported) custom steel brackets that are NEITHER shown nor referred to? If this guy is trying to drive traffic to his long-form videos, this content perhaps isn't quite doing it... [ I guess the OTHER videos are also where the 2x4s appear?!]
Two years at home and all of a sudden everyone is a “carpenter”
This is where being a carpenter cones in handy . You know that things like creating a staircase requires permits that is avoided will cause issue when trying to sell.
NOPE!! I ALSO LIKE "THE 4 STATIONS",MAN... THANKS!! 😼😼😼
@@2KMMC2 true carpenters are good for certain things in construction. But a builder is what you need in this instance
Says the guy pretending to be Marc Cuban
Ikr.. these guys buy a few power tools and think they understand everything.
Where to start, first off I have been a joiner for 50 years, I build stairs. Trusting the shear strength of domino's, especially set in line is the way people get killed. Second he is bracing this off the wall, what has he done to reinforce that wall? From what I can see, he is spanning at most 4 studs. It's most likely a 2 x 4 wall, and the lateral load of 2 x 4s is supporting 15 lbs. per square foot of Dead Load and 65 lbs. per square foot of Live Load. I would suggest, if you wish to build any type of staircase you should consult with a qualified engineer. Every year people are hurt and killed because someone builds stairs or balconies that are structurally unsafe.
Glad to hear a professional weigh in. Looks like furniture & cabinet techniques applied to structural framing -- dangerous combination.
This contraption is perfectly designed to snap tibias and fibulas.
Ha ha ha ha, good 👍 one.
Relies on 6 dominoes in main stringer, but feels the need to have 8 wedge anchors in the PT sill plate.
Fair comment, about 6 bolts too many and maybe should have cut a tenon instead but I wouldn't say it will fail.
@@ai_university No birds mouth on the first detail shown.
I came here to find this :)
Makes no sense at all
Found it lol
Someone please do a "that ain't right" video on this.
He certainly got our attention!
Be careful. It will fail where the two flies meet. It must be reinforced with a vertical column otherwise the forces will displace it
Widest 1½ by 3½s I've ever seen.
This is what happens when a finish carpenter works on a framing crew. You can't glue stairs together like a picture frame.
You didn't notice that there are more than 1 board together, although I don't think this is strong enough for adults to use regularly.
@@hackiehackerson: The title says 2x4s (actually 1½x3½ in Honestyland). That is not what he is using.
@@skipads5141 they look like piled 2x4s. I mean, there's a close up. if that's all he used, it's literally just 2x4s. Again, I'm not saying it's a good design 😂
edit - everyone including my 12 yr old neighbor knows what size a 2x4 is..... so you can stop explaining it now.
@@hackiehackerson: Then you and your 12-year old neighbor you watch videos with should look at where he's putting dominos in and the ledgers. The guy & his wife must be 3'9" if those are 2x4s. Where did he get those tiny Festools?
@@skipads5141 when you pile or layer boards, they are usually lag bolted and the purpose is that they are way less likely to warp or twist than one solid thicker board. I believe they teach basic lumber sizes and everything I just said in 6th grade woodshop. The neighbors kid is a girl. 😂
Those sure are some wide 2x4's... One might even say they are 2x6's
Came to say this...
The treads are 2x4. Shown in another video
He glued a bunch of 2x4s together prior to
Lamination, it creates a very strong member
@@Alesandro113huh huh....member
As a carpenter, I can confirm no 2x4s were harmed in the making of this video.
Seriously
People climbing these stairs on the otherhand...
This man is building an eventual death trap
He later adds custom steel brackets to capture the joints if you watch all the videos. Maybe spend more time working and less time on here judging people...
@@MarineCarpenter I watched all the parts hoping it'd become less of an eventual death trap and it never did.
@@mr__southern1492 the steel brackets he added are way more than sufficient. Maybe if you went to less proud boy meetings and actually learned how use a tool....
@@MarineCarpenterdude who made the short should advice people of the added strengthening. People can only go by what they are shown. Short for something like this should encompass the whole project
@skinlab4239 um, no. If someone thinks they should copy this project by watching this one short, they should get hurt and let natural selection take its course.
Funny! My mom always referred to my dad as her Bitter half. 🤣
Because wives make us miserable
@@_K_W 🤣💯
And this is why I'm going to school for engineering
He later adds custom steel brackets to capture the joints if you watch all the videos. Maybe spend more time working and less time on here judging people...
Hope those dominoes are as strong as you're hoping for
Came here to see if anyone else thought the same thing
glue does most of the work dominoes are most to help line it up
They are super strong
They are Domino'd straight into to joins in the laminated timber. So there's that reduction of strength as well.
He adds metal braces afterwards.
They added a new piece of art to the home, sign reads "Not for use. Please admire it at a distance".
When you said better half I wasn't paying attention and thought you were talking about the hammer. It's a pretty nice hammer too.
I assumed she made him say it that way.
Was better half a man or woman?
God bless the DIYers! They keep the industry busy.
Let's hope that wall is brick or at least 145 stud with a ply and plasterboard skin. If not you may want to put a post under that joint for good measure.
Is code enforcement ok with this method of stair construction? Seems like a lot of weight. Also you attached one end to the wall. How did you make those attachments? I promise I'm not being a jerk. Sincerely curious about how this is going to carry the loads.
This guy loves his domino jointer
Has to use it a lot to drive down the amortized per domino cost!
Only way to get any value out of it
Right? Like what is going on here just stop already.
They must be little people because those 2x4s look HUGE! 😆
A professional home owner would be proud of this activity. Act accordingly.
This has a 80% chance of collapsing 😅
No
Just hope your not planning on staining and sealing this. The glue fills the pores in the wood and won’t take stain. Painting is fine.
I think the locktite max was definitely the right way to go. This is a master craftsman,you can obviously tell by his knowledge of lingo and expensive tools. Duhh!!
I love the confidence in his voice though - you have to admit, this is Ted Talk level confidence - his wife probably thinks he's the smartest guy in the world and its AWESOME!
Woodworking and building a set of stairs that maintains load are two totally different things
Apparently so. Even most carpenters shouldn't be designing stairs and they work with loads every day.
it shouldnt be. in this case it clearly is, but he should have an understanding what needs to be there for structural support
Just a safety question have you checked with an engineer to make sure the weight distribution is done correctly
Obviously not. Dude put 8 fucking lags in the bottom, then used loctite to make sure he can never retighten them, and only 6 dominoes lol.
I don't know what he's going to make but looking at it. LOL Surfside fun to watch.
Let’s see the finish product loving it so far. Lots of beef there, don’t forget stairs are generally self supporting.
I’ve never looked up the sheer strength of dominos but I assume you started there.
Anyways it’s a wonderful project you have there and the staircase looks amazing.
Perhaps a good clear coat of something with a tough finish will protect the soft wood from dents and scratches.
That is some pretty impressive wood work!!
You can't use glue on the end grain because the wood has to expand and contract the wood will split and cause a mager safety hazards
Damn, i need to see the final product! Im not impressed easily. So far this is so rad lol
It looks like that beam had a good time 💦
I think the stairs look great! Now that it's painted black, get some heavy duty lag screws to help those domino's then paint them black
If you don’t have any metal fasteners in the supporting beam where you have joints. You better start adding some
That joint will fail. The structural integrity is compromised by load distribution inadequacies.
I dont know what you're doing , but you're doing it wrong . The internet
To real😢
Isn't it amazing what you can do with imagination and knowledge .....and have the energy to go along with it !
I like the little block you added for clamping the angles together. 👍
So who’s the contractor? Clearly not the guy that called those 2x4s
How to over engineer like a homeowner 101
looks good but I would've used steel and welded it if it was mine
Wow , that woodwork skills are outstanding 🤙🏽 I love the smell of lumber.
very keen to see part 4
There is absolutely NEVER a time when I would use Red Head's when I can get Titans! I'm really surprised that you got them all to grab before at least one was halfway out or more. You got extremely lucky!
Dude for real. Those hds are killer
Part 4! That sounds like a lot of work!
To all the arm chair warriors out there he has posted a lot of cool projects that seem to work just fine. Workmanship looks pretty good to me. I’m sure by now the stairs have collapsed but he posted it anyway.
I hope the suspension bridge is earthquake rated. Oh and the wood oil meets or exceeds ANSI specs. Just saying.
I’m so jealous, u so kool mannnn :/ wish school would provide fun things like this to do
Looking good ! Waiting for the follow-up video
great beam and anchor. but would never done it with dominos bro.
but over all it looks kinda fine
Is this guy for realz? Dominoes and glue? Please make an update video when you're in the hospital. Best of luck to you sir.
Lol, suddenly everyone in the comment section is a structural engineer 😂
Cheat code for redhead concrete anchors… use the impact drill you drilled the holes with to drive the bolts in. Fucking game changer.
For boss level, get a welder buddy to weld a bit of pipe onto one of your worn out bits so it doesn’t slip off the bolt head.
Your welcome.
ANCLADA CON ACERO Y UNIDA CON PALITOS NO HAY RELACIÓN DE RESISTENCIA MECÁNICA. 🇲🇽
Came for the comments and was not disappointed.
Cool project buddy maybe next time consider using traditional joinery instead of dominoes as you are, obviously, more than capable of doing so!
The first dance is epic, yet there is a mid line for your decisions, to reduce mass, increase tensile strength, and carry loads, across your beautiful, structure.
I love these kind of work
I'm very impressed with this!
I like the part where the 2x4's comes in
Wow. No way in hell I’m walking up that!
I would have used toothpicks for joints myself. Economical and stronger.
Wow so impressive!! It’s like art!!
The landing looks like it will be the only thing keeping that stringer from collapsing towards the wall. Im assuming hes only planning to use ledgers to suspend the landing without any additional vertical support from underneath on the corners. Idk , it could work lol
Excellent workmanship. 👍
Ce să zic, arată bine postarea! Dar o situație reală din ȘANTIER este cu totul și cu totul altfel! 🧘 Pentru cine a mai lucrat și știe ce înseamnă un șantier! 🔥
I hope to find myself back here for part four cuz I can never find these damn things somebody should pend them in the comments
go to the channel name.
Shove the beam.
What a Sicko !
Not saying anything bad it looks great but I would put bracing from the left side of the bottom beam at the top to help with the weight shifting
This is so cool im ao used to everything being supported by screws lol
The laminated 6x6 stringer is a bit of over kill i think but he will need to add metal braces at then joints with decent bolts, maybe he has a plasma, metal break and welder to try out?
You're young and learning. She'll never be your better half. You and yourself are your better half.
Saving money building the staircase. Uses an almost $2K festool joiner. 😅
Good job I love it
Tip - with pressure treated lumber only use stainless steel or coated anchors. Metal reacts with the preservatives in the wood and will corrode.
GOOD JOBS SUPER JOB!!!
The only issue with this is you have a layer of Dry Wall between the wall beam attachment and the wall, the problem with this is over time it is going to crush the dry wall and cause movement from pressure and vibrations, usually you remove dry wall and add a support brace directly on the support studs for the wall and also add a few 2x4s to handle the side pressure added so the wall beams over years don't bow outwards.
Nice job and nice tools!👍
Una obra de arte ....😮
2x4s huh... guess all this time I've been using 0.5x1s for framing, gah!
You make this seem so simple, awesome job!
That's because it is simple.
@@sumduma55you should upload your stair build
@@philmurphy7487 why? It's not difficult. Do you need 20 tutorials on how to pour milk into a bowl of cereal?
@sumduma55 because it's SO simple you MUST have your own video thats 1000% better than this, cause youre so smart! And I'm so sTuPiD that I would watch and give you views. Apparently
@@philmurphy7487 lol... just because it is easy to do doesn't mean I'm a good videographer.
Are you upset because you found it difficult? Or is it because you actually do need 20 videos showing you how to pour milk into a bowl of cereal?
And the comments were originally made 9 months ago. What happened, did your wife's boyfriend decide to keep her or something?
Wow nice work 👏 👍
Masterful ....debatable who is the better half!
I love all the comment saying how this is going to fail or tell me you're not a contractor. This is much heavy-duty than anything they built in Florida back in the 70s. Still surviving today.
Good job!!
So satisfying, looking good buddy keep up amazing work
Great Clamps!
This application is exactly what a dovetail joint is for.
Nice work.
Some damn fine beam making
That bottom joint would have been a good place for another bird's-eye type joint.
Thank god you added that glue on top of the 8 bolts into concrete.
8 oversized bolts and lock tight holding down something that's got wood glue and 6 little wooden dowels holding it together.
The lock tight gets me 😂 like the bolts are gonna vibrate loose in a house
Massive !! Good job
Long term structural integrity has left the chat
Omg the comments are spot on and funny as hell 🤣 😂
Nice 2x4's