Never thought that Sirius was at G7 in the first place. Just seemed strange that a small colossus would be able to roam the open plains so freely while the other small colossus were relegated to rather tight arenas. Just my two cents. Great video though!
i too thought that was weird but i dont have the technical know how of these guys, so i just took it as either the area was unfinished or altered. but now we have more concrete evidence of what couldve been
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Interesting discovery! Nice to know that slowly, community explores everything what is possible. I still think that Buddha lived in early D3, where Geyser is now located. If Geyser was behind Beta Dam, D3 area had to be extremaly empty... Too empty.
Buddha's textures point to the idea that it lived somewhere south, I7 has been speculated to be the location, but the evidence for that is sketchy af. People have also speculated however thaf Spider lived at D3 in the RHB phase of development
@@mr.monkecolossus444 D3 is a pretty dried place, what looks similar to the southern part of the map. The game had changed a lot, and the past of D3 should be verified, in my opinion. I am sure that this place had some arena in early development.
That’s what people have been saying for years. I doubt any of those fan projects will come out at this point. It’s cool what they’re doing, I know it’s hard, but seems unlikely now. I do wish we would get an official uncut SOTC someday, though that’s equally unlikely due to Ueda’s views. Oh well
I'll be honest, this seems like a big stretch. Your past location videos have been very convincing, but this one left me feeling skeptical. The evidence just doesn't seem too strong - the "matching" chip data looks less similar in F8 than it does in G7. The textures sort of match, but SotC's texture style makes many grass/rock textures look similar anyway. Considering how many "confirmed" colossus locations have been debunked recently, this will probably join them once Buddha's location is decisively found. The video's design and editing were great, though.
No offense, but that doesn’t fill me with confidence. Already this year the BTFL team had an issue with a dev being impersonated and giving false info. It’s hard to know what to trust after so much “official info” throughout the SotC community has turned out to be false over the years.
Labyrinth's (lair of Buddha) chip data doesn't match the surround quadrants of E8 at all, it would look really weird if there. At least Sirius's chip data somewhat alligns with F8 naturally
Well... It's certain there was a boss at E8. We see a few instances in which this is the case, with boss beams and clouds in a couple of screenshots and trailers, that show the way to the next boss. Now why isn't Buddha there? Well after looking more deeply into it, Labyrinth just doesn't work in E8. The chip data is full, as well as the textures not matching very well (lacks the grass for a start) I took a look at the textures used on the southern border of quadrant E7, and three are used. Those are: mk_world_wall_mip01 mk_newgreen mk_kokeiwa_mip I looked for places that use all three and found the following areas: Kirin's Hill (Phaedra's arena) Sanctuary (Malus' arena) F8 (F8 quadrant before it was an arena) Stonehenge (Sirius' arena) Stonehenge is just the most likely of them all.
Yeah that's a mystery that will never be explained. The only information we know is the discarded arena called Labyrinth. Where The boss will be at the center of the battlefield.
I'm still curious what the purpose of the dam was, like after you guys found out the devils home was next to it, it just confuses me to no end what was its purpose? A boss arean from below or inside, man I love this games mysteries
From what I have gathered in that Sotc discord group for Beyond the Forbidden Lands, that Beta Dam was a carryover from the Ico's bridge and modified it as a Dam. It served more as a placeholder and that's it.
It's just a normal area connecting to other boss arenas, you never went inside the dam or anything like that. It used to connect to Argus' arena and Basaran's in I3.
Naisaga said buddha was an earlier version of malus (as we can see) He also said something that interested me, 2 colossi were merged to make malus, So there is a chance buddha did live on the same arena where Malus is.
I thought the rocks were not going to be use to stuck Sirius I think it was more of making him get know down similar to the cenobia? But since he was faster that's why the use of agro the players had to go between them at a paste and climb on him before getting back up and knowing wander off him repeating the process
It's the soundtrack to the Shadow of the Colossus game. You should be able to search it up on RUclips. There should be a playlist for each music played for this soundtrack.
This evidence seems very skeptical! Non the less we know that it used to have 2 Malus icon on the previous map design! Look at the nomad maps video to know more! Link: ruclips.net/video/SHB8o_9GcYo/видео.html
If you compare it to our other videos like Roc and Devil, then yes, it is less convincing. But if you compare it to the previous location, G7, then you will see E8 works more. It's hard to explain exactly how, but what we do know is that G7 wasn't a boss arena during the period of the G7 images. A period from when Sirius was still in the game. I checked the textures of the earliest version of G7 we have (E3 demo) and compared it to Stonehenge. To put it simply, only one texture was the same. E8 on the other hand has three out of the four textures seen in Stonehenge.
I know this doesn't have to do with the video but could someone explain to me why Spider's location has gone back to being on debate. The evidence for Spider living in F2 seemed pretty solid. Yet, in the Team Ico wiki, Spider's location has been changed to unknown.
Hillock’s (spider’s arena) textures do not match that of the northern span (for example there are no sand textures in hillock). It’s likely that spider was at F2 in the BVB phase, then moved somewhere else in the RHB phase (D3 is the most likely candidate)
@@btab2772 This contradicts what was previously written. Pretty sure the wiki used to say that Hillock had textures exclusive to the F quadrant. In fact, that's what led us to believe Spider was in F2 in the first place. Also, Hillock not having sand could mean that F2 was a lot grassier and was later modified to be an extension of the desert. Even then, there is a sand texture related to Hillock named mk_sand00. Yes, it is not listed in Hillock, but that could mean it was removed because of changes in the arena. So it is possible that Hillock was once a desert before the devs decided to modify it and, when Spider was removed, it went back to being a desert. Also, I've seen the argument that Spider could have been placed in F2 in the official pictures just for the sake of taking screenshots of it. However, I feel like, if that was truly the case, then they would have placed Spider in an empty desert (like they did with Gaius in that old trailer) instead of placing it in F2. That decision on the dev team is a strong evidence that Spider, at least at one point, used to live in F2.
@@rickalbuquerque595 yes, spider did live at F2 in the bvb phase, I won’t argue that. But hillocks textures point to the idea that spider lived somewhere else, that’s the point I was trying to make. The most likely scenario is that spider was put in some random location like how Gaius was in a barren desert in the bvb phase before being put somewhere else. Essentially, hillock’s textures don’t match with stage 12, which means spider once lived somewhere else with D3 being the most likely location
@@btab2772 The SEparam files list Spider as #10, so I think it's certain that Spider lived in stage 12 (the number was subtracted by 2 starting with stage 8). When was Spider placed at a random spot? Your comment was a bit confusing, since it sounded as if you said F2 was Spider's arena at one point but also that F2 was simply a random location they put Spider in the official screenshots when these sentences clearly contradict each other. If Hillock's textures don't match with the F column, then do you have any idea of why it was previously written on the Team Ico wiki that Hillock has textures that relate exclusively to the F column? It's almost as if there was a miscommunication between the wiki's authors. Also, wasn't Hillock having textures from the F column the whole reason we concluded it was Spider's arena (since it was the only unused arena that could have had the bridge we saw in its screenshots). If Hillock doesn't match with the F column, then do we have any evidence that Spider lived in Hillock at all?
Never thought that Sirius was at G7 in the first place. Just seemed strange that a small colossus would be able to roam the open plains so freely while the other small colossus were relegated to rather tight arenas. Just my two cents. Great video though!
i too thought that was weird but i dont have the technical know how of these guys, so i just took it as either the area was unfinished or altered. but now we have more concrete evidence of what couldve been
God I love this community
Same.
I need More videos of this channel, i absolutely love it!
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@@lorduncon6869 that comment aged poorly, didn't it? I'd still like more videos though
Interesting discovery! Nice to know that slowly, community explores everything what is possible.
I still think that Buddha lived in early D3, where Geyser is now located. If Geyser was behind Beta Dam, D3 area had to be extremaly empty... Too empty.
Buddha's textures point to the idea that it lived somewhere south, I7 has been speculated to be the location, but the evidence for that is sketchy af. People have also speculated however thaf Spider lived at D3 in the RHB phase of development
@@mr.monkecolossus444 D3 is a pretty dried place, what looks similar to the southern part of the map. The game had changed a lot, and the past of D3 should be verified, in my opinion. I am sure that this place had some arena in early development.
Welcome back lads, and thank you!
if governments put as much effort into achieving world peace as the SotC community did in dissecting this game, we would live in a great world.
Just makes me wish a Director's Cut version of SoTC could have been made with some of the cut areas and colossi rebuilt.
Well, some fans are doing fan battles for the deleted colossi. They are near to launch the full Sirius fight already.
That’s what people have been saying for years. I doubt any of those fan projects will come out at this point. It’s cool what they’re doing, I know it’s hard, but seems unlikely now.
I do wish we would get an official uncut SOTC someday, though that’s equally unlikely due to Ueda’s views. Oh well
I'm looking forward to the video about Phoenix 🤩🤩🤩 great video
Very cool! Thanks for sharing this vídeo!
I'll be honest, this seems like a big stretch. Your past location videos have been very convincing, but this one left me feeling skeptical. The evidence just doesn't seem too strong - the "matching" chip data looks less similar in F8 than it does in G7. The textures sort of match, but SotC's texture style makes many grass/rock textures look similar anyway. Considering how many "confirmed" colossus locations have been debunked recently, this will probably join them once Buddha's location is decisively found. The video's design and editing were great, though.
No offense, but that doesn’t fill me with confidence. Already this year the BTFL team had an issue with a dev being impersonated and giving false info. It’s hard to know what to trust after so much “official info” throughout the SotC community has turned out to be false over the years.
Labyrinth's (lair of Buddha) chip data doesn't match the surround quadrants of E8 at all, it would look really weird if there. At least Sirius's chip data somewhat alligns with F8 naturally
Well... It's certain there was a boss at E8. We see a few instances in which this is the case, with boss beams and clouds in a couple of screenshots and trailers, that show the way to the next boss.
Now why isn't Buddha there? Well after looking more deeply into it, Labyrinth just doesn't work in E8. The chip data is full, as well as the textures not matching very well (lacks the grass for a start)
I took a look at the textures used on the southern border of quadrant E7, and three are used.
Those are:
mk_world_wall_mip01
mk_newgreen
mk_kokeiwa_mip
I looked for places that use all three and found the following areas:
Kirin's Hill (Phaedra's arena)
Sanctuary (Malus' arena)
F8 (F8 quadrant before it was an arena)
Stonehenge (Sirius' arena)
Stonehenge is just the most likely of them all.
@@Jaikhay231 Are those textures from the beta or final version of E7?
@@rickalbuquerque595 I looked at the E3 demo's for obvious reasons. The earlier the better when looking for matches to cut colossi.
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So hyped for this vid
🤔 Where did Buddha live... ?
Yeah that's a mystery that will never be explained. The only information we know is the discarded arena called Labyrinth. Where The boss will be at the center of the battlefield.
@@colonelsection5821 All we really can say for certain is that it lived somewhere south
@@colonelsection5821 Wouldn't say never
Good job.
Good work!
-Newman from BtFL
From where? Sorry to ask
@@lautaropautasso1999 Beyond the Forbidden Lands, a fan project dedicated to bringing back the beta colossi.
@@btab2772 oh that's awesome!
I'm still curious what the purpose of the dam was, like after you guys found out the devils home was next to it, it just confuses me to no end what was its purpose? A boss arean from below or inside, man I love this games mysteries
From what I have gathered in that Sotc discord group for Beyond the Forbidden Lands, that Beta Dam was a carryover from the Ico's bridge and modified it as a Dam. It served more as a placeholder and that's it.
It used to grant acess to Phoenix arena. It's kinda like that man-made tunnel underground passage you go through before reaching Kuromori's coliseum.
It's just a normal area connecting to other boss arenas, you never went inside the dam or anything like that. It used to connect to Argus' arena and Basaran's in I3.
Naisaga said buddha was an earlier version of malus (as we can see) He also said something that interested me, 2 colossi were merged to make malus, So there is a chance buddha did live on the same arena where Malus is.
F8 (where Malus is located) was originally a normal quadrant and not a colossus arena. Buddha was moved there when it became the final boss
Yes!!!!!
I thought the rocks were not going to be use to stuck Sirius I think it was more of making him get know down similar to the cenobia? But since he was faster that's why the use of agro the players had to go between them at a paste and climb on him before getting back up and knowing wander off him repeating the process
What's the music
It's the soundtrack to the Shadow of the Colossus game. You should be able to search it up on RUclips. There should be a playlist for each music played for this soundtrack.
a música do jogo que vés na tela, ora
Soundtrack #8 of the game, "The Farthest Land".
This evidence seems very skeptical! Non the less we know that it used to have 2 Malus icon on the previous map design! Look at the nomad maps video to know more! Link: ruclips.net/video/SHB8o_9GcYo/видео.html
If you compare it to our other videos like Roc and Devil, then yes, it is less convincing. But if you compare it to the previous location, G7, then you will see E8 works more. It's hard to explain exactly how, but what we do know is that G7 wasn't a boss arena during the period of the G7 images. A period from when Sirius was still in the game.
I checked the textures of the earliest version of G7 we have (E3 demo) and compared it to Stonehenge. To put it simply, only one texture was the same. E8 on the other hand has three out of the four textures seen in Stonehenge.
What colossus is buddah?
Beta version of the 16th colossus before it was re-purposed as the final boss and moved. Originally lived in I7.
@@KrateKarrot man thats an old comment I made, I already know that, but thank you.
I know this doesn't have to do with the video but could someone explain to me why Spider's location has gone back to being on debate. The evidence for Spider living in F2 seemed pretty solid. Yet, in the Team Ico wiki, Spider's location has been changed to unknown.
Hillock’s (spider’s arena) textures do not match that of the northern span (for example there are no sand textures in hillock). It’s likely that spider was at F2 in the BVB phase, then moved somewhere else in the RHB phase (D3 is the most likely candidate)
@@btab2772 This contradicts what was previously written. Pretty sure the wiki used to say that Hillock had textures exclusive to the F quadrant. In fact, that's what led us to believe Spider was in F2 in the first place.
Also, Hillock not having sand could mean that F2 was a lot grassier and was later modified to be an extension of the desert. Even then, there is a sand texture related to Hillock named mk_sand00. Yes, it is not listed in Hillock, but that could mean it was removed because of changes in the arena. So it is possible that Hillock was once a desert before the devs decided to modify it and, when Spider was removed, it went back to being a desert.
Also, I've seen the argument that Spider could have been placed in F2 in the official pictures just for the sake of taking screenshots of it. However, I feel like, if that was truly the case, then they would have placed Spider in an empty desert (like they did with Gaius in that old trailer) instead of placing it in F2. That decision on the dev team is a strong evidence that Spider, at least at one point, used to live in F2.
@@rickalbuquerque595 yes, spider did live at F2 in the bvb phase, I won’t argue that. But hillocks textures point to the idea that spider lived somewhere else, that’s the point I was trying to make. The most likely scenario is that spider was put in some random location like how Gaius was in a barren desert in the bvb phase before being put somewhere else. Essentially, hillock’s textures don’t match with stage 12, which means spider once lived somewhere else with D3 being the most likely location
@@btab2772 The SEparam files list Spider as #10, so I think it's certain that Spider lived in stage 12 (the number was subtracted by 2 starting with stage 8).
When was Spider placed at a random spot? Your comment was a bit confusing, since it sounded as if you said F2 was Spider's arena at one point but also that F2 was simply a random location they put Spider in the official screenshots when these sentences clearly contradict each other.
If Hillock's textures don't match with the F column, then do you have any idea of why it was previously written on the Team Ico wiki that Hillock has textures that relate exclusively to the F column? It's almost as if there was a miscommunication between the wiki's authors.
Also, wasn't Hillock having textures from the F column the whole reason we concluded it was Spider's arena (since it was the only unused arena that could have had the bridge we saw in its screenshots). If Hillock doesn't match with the F column, then do we have any evidence that Spider lived in Hillock at all?
@@rickalbuquerque595 if my way of saying it is confusing, then just read hillocks article on the team ico wiki
So your telling me that stonehenge was coppied froom this game??? 😯😂