For all of you who think I pulled this info from thin air...here are my documented research websites: Pressure-Treated Wood: The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has highlighted the dangers of burning pressure-treated wood, which can release toxic chemicals such as arsenic, chromium, and copper. Arsenic, in particular, is a well-known carcinogen. Source: EPA - Pressure Treated Wood Engineered Wood Products: Burning engineered wood products can release formaldehyde, a known carcinogen. The International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), part of the World Health Organization (WHO), classifies formaldehyde as a Group 1 carcinogen. Source: IARC - Formaldehyde Pallet Wood: Many pallets are treated with chemicals like methyl bromide, which can release harmful toxins when burned. Methyl bromide is known for its toxicity and has been linked to various health issues, though its carcinogenic potential is less clear. Source: EPA - Methyl Bromide Painted or Stained Wood: Older paints may contain lead, which is a known carcinogen, especially if burned and inhaled. The IARC also classifies lead and lead compounds as Group 2A (probably carcinogenic to humans). Source: IARC - Lead Compounds Driftwood: Burning driftwood can produce dioxins due to its high salt content. Dioxins are classified by the IARC as Group 1 carcinogens. Source: WHO - Dioxins
My parents used to burn a lot of well seasoned pine in a closed wood stove. So not much trouble with sparks and embers. But you did have to keep an eye on the state of the chimney. Too much pine in the mix and you could get a nasty tar like residue building up, and chimney fires are not a good thing. They had a dual wall insulated chimney so the inner surface stayed hot enough that buildup was never a problem, but dad checked it frequently to make sure. I still have their house, and the stove is still there. It hasn't been lit in ~15 years though, since Dad died. There's still a big woodpile in the woodshed, I always think when I'm up there some crisp fall day I should light a little fire in the stove in their memory. But it's also kind of nice to keep it just as he left it, ashes in the stove and all.
I think it would be a nice way to remember your dad by having a fire using the same tools his hands touched and getting wood from the same pile he would have and making new memories, his spirit will be with you.
You may not need that stove today, but someday you will and you'll thank your dad for keeping you warm! Put up a half a cord just in case of a emergency, that old wood alone will burn to hot and is dangerous!
Having heated my home with wood for decades, I can assure you there is a place for seasoned pine and soft woods, such as alder and poplar. I kept plenty of these woods reserved for fall and spring when you need less heat from a well drafted fire. Restricting airflow to harder wood creates more problems than cleanly burning softer wood.
I've burned a wide assortment of woods for nearly 50 years. You can burn any kind of wood providing your stove has proper ventilation. Keep your stove and pipework clean you wont have too many issues.
Indeed: push the temperature up and have lots of air flow - though I agree with 'don't burn green (or wet - that was implicit, but missed) wood' to ensure complete combustion; why the use of multi fuel stoves - the other being 'briquette smokeless coal' - is popular in my country (partially). Though: having good quality, dry wood does make everything easier and simpler.
@rustirab3465 Where I live everyone burns wood. I'm way out in the boonies, no close neighbors. If you live in town house on top of house then this might be issue, but certainly not in my case.
In 1979 I burned green apple wood to warm our house for my little boys.. those were hard years, but we were grateful to GOD. Ya gotta do what ya gotta do..
As most folk have closed stoves , you can burn anything within limits . Couple small pieces of old railway sleepers are bang on for lighting the fire .
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Only burn free wood. It keeps your heating costs at zero emissions.
It does insofar as purchase cost, but then you've got to have the tools to cut/block it, get it home, split it, let it dry under cover (tarp or roof, etc), have a place to store it. There's always a cost.
All good for the most part.. all treated wood , bad, most dry wood , good.! I have burned green wood, half and half for years. I wager you a B+ on this one. That’s good..🎉
My dad was lived during the WW2 Era. He mentioned a story ( I'm not sure if they published it or not ) Where there was a Platoon of Soldiers [ about 50 to 100 of them ] and those in command told some of the Lower ranking ones to go and Gather Sticks off of " those Plants, " and the platoon would roast some kind of food on them ( probably hot dogs ) . They did and the platoon roasted their food. Hours later those Soldiers Had Severe Digestive Pains / And all but 1 or 2 died . The one(s) that survived " Didn't eat anything " roasted on those Sticks " ! The Sticks that were used were " Oleander " @ 4:24 !
Good morning Nikki. I did know about the different types of wood to burn and not to burn however I think this was a great video because most people don't know what wood can be harmful. Once again great video and have a great day.
The video is true for what woods not to burn indoors. For burning outside in a bonfire, with lots of fresh air circulation and dispersal, then including woods such as pallets, soft wood....,are fine, as long as the outdoor fire at that time is not going to be used for cooking. As I found in the Northwest, some places in the USA and Canada do not have much or any hardwoods. In our stove in Western Wash, we had to burn softwoods. However, we made sure to clean the chimney often (to avoid pitch/creosote chimney fires). And we had another heat source as well.
I knew about MDF, painted/varnished, pine, and mold/fungi covered wood, but the rest was new to me. I go to outdoor larp events, and singalongs by campfires are a big part of the weekends.
When I was a scout in the early 1970s our scoutmaster was a contractor. He used to bring “knockouts” of wood for us to burn on camping trips. I think some of them were from pressure treated wood. Oh well…
lol well, we were also the kids that ran after the mosquito truck or rode our bikes behind it lol Pretty sure we are unable to contract most diseases at this point
This is good advice, there's nothing as important as your health. I fully understand that many people burn what they can afford or can get but if you get sick, it's going to cost you a lot more in medical bills. We do burn pallets but we always look for the heat treated ones and any others are just use for other projects that will not affect our health.
I try to be aware of any scrap wood. I have created a big pile of all the 'ucky' wood, away from the cabin. I haven't thrown it out, nor will I, bc that wood MAY have to be burned one day...outside on our firepit/cooking fire. I don't have many oaks on my 5 acres, and of course don't want to cut any down. I have a ton of crappy pines (that's what I call them-southern pines are FULL of crappy stuff, and need to be seasoned at least a year and I still would only use them outside). Sad thing? I've had tons of comments of people who say this video is false, or I'm a 'scare mongerer'.
@@offgridstyleprepper You're always going to get the so called experts on RUclips, I'm afraid it goes with the territory and most of them live in the city and have probably never ignited a fire in their lives. Best to just ignore them and carry on as if they don't exist. As for pine it's probably best to leave it for 2 years and burn it really hot. I wish we could get our hands on that pine as we're burning peat. It gives out great heat but doesn't have the same energy compared to wood. Peat like pine creates a dirty chimney so we just clean ours every 3 months lol.
Living in the south, we won't need much wood for heating purposes. It gets chilly at night, down into the high teens/low twenties a few times a year. But typically even then it isn't THAT cold inside the cabin..it's small. Body heat, lots of warm blankets, and bundling up work. We DO have a pot bellied stove that warms the whole cabin up within an hour, and one we put out the fire in it, the radiant heat continues to heat the cabin all night.
There is a lot of people way up north that burn drift wood to heat their house. They have done that for hundred's of years. They have also burned pine trees for hundreds of years. All trees have resin in them. As long as you let the wood cure good, you can burn it. Think about this... Maple syrup come from resin in the Maple tree.
I was always told to be careful burning, in a stove, alder, applewood or tamarack, as they can burn so hot as to damage the stove. If you do burn some use 1 stick with a couple of sticks of other species of wood.
In my neck of the woods, alder is a brush pile wood, hardly worth collefcting for fires. Ditto with apple-- pretty scarce is the woods. Tamarack/larch can burn out a stove in a hurry, so the trick is to use it in small batches rather than stuff the stove (as most people and women do) full. A third filling is fine, and let it burn down. And make sure it's DRY/seasoned.
I burn everything outside in a huge cast iron creat with a vent window. I have to clean up my spring cleaning every year on my 4.5 acre yard. My crate bin sits on my gravel driveway away from everything and I have a hose to contain the fire so it won’t get out of control.
Thank you. Good to know. Also, some older particle board products were reported to contain formaldehyde, which is a good chemical to stay far away from.
I burn a combination of mesquite, peach wood, oak and cottonwood. Cottonwood is plentiful in our area so we burn cottonwood with mesquite or some peach wood. Oak doesn't really need a mix but it is more aromatic with some mesquite or peach wood.
Went to a job site of a house remodel. There were stacks of 2x4 cut to16 inches.. Asked the guy working there "why do you need all this cribing." Was told that fire wood was $5.00 a bundle at the store and he wasn't going to pay that ..
Well, let's see, what do homesteaders and preppers like to do...they like to keep stuff, 'just in case'. So, it is entirely possible they might have old paint or old painted wood lying around somewhere, just in case. Additionally, even without the lead in paint, the burning of painted/varnished/stained wood releases other harmful volatile chemicals.
In the woods me and my chainsaw never discussed any of this , I'll have a serious talk with him , but he is usually busy drinking 2 cycle oil mixed with gasoline . I hope that ain't toxic , he does it every single time we go ?
Well, mine is all thrown into a pile...my 'just in case' pile lol. Can't quite throw it away, bc in true shtf or disaster situations, I may need it. I keep it a ways away from the cabin. You can obviously repurpose it for some other project. Or, most landfills will take it, but you do have to let them know up front what type of wood it is.
I can only speak to creosoted wood. Having worked for a railroad, I know that old railroad ties are burned as fuel in specially designed boilers at extremely high temperatures to make steam for power generation and other industrial uses. And the plant operators charge the railroads a disposal fee of several dollars per tie, even though they are getting essentially free fuel. The short line railroad where I worked was once quoted a disposal fee of $12.00 per tie by a co-generation steam plant. And that did not include the cost of trucking the ties to the plant, since the plant was located many miles from the nearest rail line.
I think I've burned all of those wood types you mentioned at one time or another, and many times over for some. I guess that's what's wrong with me. One year we burnt chunks of telephone poles, now that's some hot burning stuff! (Don't try this at home, kids.)
Many years ago dad got a whole semi load of old telephone poles for free when they buried the phone lines past the farm. He used most of the wood for building projects around the farmyard (and ~50 years later they're still there) but he split up and burnt some of the smaller bits and leftovers in the wood stove. A few slivers of that creosote soaked wood made a great fire starter. Can't say I'd recommend doing that. But my parents went through the great depression and something like that leaves scars. They were firm believers in using what they had or doing without.
@@xlerb2286 Thanks for sharing that. My grandparents were about the same, lived through the depression, lived on what they had, etc. They taught me well.
Very true that you can control the temp with a damper to a good degree...but fireplace dampers in particular aren't always the most reliable at controlling heat and burn rate. Potbellied stoves and wood stoves have more control. But if you are outside, burning these woods, then not much control there. I am surrounded by pine. I will burn it as a last resort, bc it means somewhere between 20-50% more creosote buildup over a winter season. And if I'm the only person who is around to clean that potbellied stove out, I'd rather put it off as long as possible. Not to mention the fire hazard...in a wood cabin lol When I lived in SoCal, we always had oak to burn in the winter. I remember lots of oaks all over, but there is also madrone; that is a good choice. :)
I carry a box of matchrs in my pocket. If i fall onto the box the friction will create fumes which are hazardous and the fire will light the wood sticks in my pocket. Err common sence.
A lot of myths about burning pine. I burn it all the time and have for years. In a lot of states people burn it because it's what they have. Certain types of pine are better than others. In some species once the sap gets hot it will burn just like Kerosene. You are right that it don't produce coals as good as hardwood so i like to mix it. Pine does get hot though so i've got to disagree there because it will run you out of my house sometimes. Cool smoking fires like you get with green wood are what cause creosote buildup. If you burn hot fires it isn't an issue. If your stove is working right you usually don't get smoke unless maybe you have just lit the fire. Most of the time all you can see is heat radiating off of my chimney, no smoke. In a closed stove there again if you have a little mold or fungi on wood it isn't going anywhere in a hot fire. The fire will kill that mess and burn it up though i still would recommend keeping wood as dry as one can.
Are you aware that most countries above the 60. parallel burn pine? Also I wonder what you may mean by ‘disposing safely’ when it concerns wood pressure treated with things like arsenic.
Since there are dozens of species of pine, many of which don't produce as much creosote as the crap we have in the south, it is probably much better. As for 'disposing safely'...well, my pressure treated and other wood that I don't want to burn is in a big ole pile about 500 yards away from the cabin. IF it's an SHTF situation, then I have it if I need it.
CCA has been banned in th EU since the noughties due to it's carcinogenic risks. What we call 'tanalised' is treated with a much more health friendly alternative, I don't know what it is though.
CCA has been banned in North America for about that long too. There are several alternatives now, particularly ACQ. The issue is that ACQ lumber is rarely rated for ground contact or submergence. The other I think more of a problem is that it eats fasteners, and you either have to use rated (heavily galvanized) or stainless steel fasteners.
I gotta finish splitting these walnut logs and juniper i don't get much yew wood cause the branches don't never die unless i cut them i burn white cedar and cooked with its needle's to and burnt hemlock to it burns like any other pine wood and i burn cherrywood don't have any oak i burn alot of silver maple kinda hard splitting that cause the wood twist so much then you run into hidden knuckles in the logs those maple logs will give you a good workout if your not cheating using a gas log splitter
@@offgridstyleprepper Yeah, probably. Here in Australia we usually burn old red gum, blue gum, ironbark, messmate (all eucalyptus). There would be plenty of that in California. It burns a treat once dried. Sadly it also burns a treat during a wildfire.
Low calorific value results in rather poor heat output. Okay if free... The ONLY time I experienced it stink when burning, was a tree whose roots had access to a sewage outflow!
Russian Olive trees are also very toxic, I had issues with removing the roots breathed in the sawdust and had respiratory issues for a couple of months
Hi! You are correct. Here is one thing I've noticed. As the channel has grown, so have the smart a$$ comments, the trolls, and the ones who just plain wanna argue with me bc THEY know best (I've noticed most of the male owned channels don't have as much of this). Well, I kinda knew all this when I started. I am a person who has spent my entire life in roles where customer service, kindness, and my twisted sense of humor got me by. Knowing I would have to deal with the issues I described above, I resolved to, as much as possible, let ppl say their rude/smart mouth comments. If it is truly offensive, or personal to myself or someone else on my channel, then I can always remove the comment. If it gets nasty personal, then I can always remove the person. If it is a valid point, then it should stay. But, thank you for noticing. I TRY to 'keep it classy', however sometimes my inner little demon pops her head out and responds LOL
@@offgridstyleprepper Stay strong and keep up the good work. You have a great channel and most of us really appreciate the information and content. Take care. 👍
Thank you...there is a whole community here of amazing people who DON'T post rude comments. You can usually tell which is which simply by what they say :)
No, actually there isn't any misinformation...here are the links to every single statement made in this video: Pressure-Treated Wood: The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has highlighted the dangers of burning pressure-treated wood, which can release toxic chemicals such as arsenic, chromium, and copper. Arsenic, in particular, is a well-known carcinogen. Source: EPA - Pressure Treated Wood Engineered Wood Products: Burning engineered wood products can release formaldehyde, a known carcinogen. The International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), part of the World Health Organization (WHO), classifies formaldehyde as a Group 1 carcinogen. Source: IARC - Formaldehyde Pallet Wood: Many pallets are treated with chemicals like methyl bromide, which can release harmful toxins when burned. Methyl bromide is known for its toxicity and has been linked to various health issues, though its carcinogenic potential is less clear. Source: EPA - Methyl Bromide Painted or Stained Wood: Older paints may contain lead, which is a known carcinogen, especially if burned and inhaled. The IARC also classifies lead and lead compounds as Group 2A (probably carcinogenic to humans). Source: IARC - Lead Compounds Driftwood: Burning driftwood can produce dioxins due to its high salt content. Dioxins are classified by the IARC as Group 1 carcinogens. Source: WHO - Dioxins
I totally agree with you on just about all of them and I tell people that they shouldn't use pallets to make stuff because you don't know what chemicals are in it from all the products shipped on it and I don't like using shipping containers for housing because you don't know what was in it.
@@jeffharper7579 Just like used water containers need to be washed out completely with bleach and water. Same with 'food grade' barrels ppl use for collecting rainwater. We put ours out to collect rain til full, then pour bleach in them and stir it up and let them sit in the sun a few days, then dump the water and rinse thoroughly. We then dump the water once a year (I usually put it into my 'sanitation' containers, bc when using it with toilets, it doesn't matter), wash with bleach and water and then let em fill back up. Common sense things like this, will end up saving someone's life some day.
I'm collecting rain water and run it through two big filters and a uv light just for showers a cleaning up plus the toilet. Long story short I'm doing some off grid and main lines but if power goes out I can still be ok till it comes back on. I'm conserving as much water as I can and I have two 275 gallon tanks and wanting one more. I am buying only new ones at t.s.c. using bottled for drinking, cooking and my cats. Where I live my neighbors have wells that are 800 + feet deep and not good water plus a slow to refill right now so they don't get much water.
Okey Dokey. Well, while you are claiming I'm a scare mongerer and whatever the comment is about Greenies? First, you don't know me or my channel, and that's fine. Second, it is your choice to believe me or not, I do the research on my videos, and can give you, for each type of wood in this video, documentation on its being unsafe. Third, don't believe me. Just please, if you have anyone who might have asthma, difficulty breathing, or other issues, keep them away from the toxic fires you are burning. It's your choice to breathe in toxic crap, but if they don't know, then you are slowly killing them without their knowledge.
You don't really know what you are talking about. You should really talk to the older people who did just about everything you talked about in this video.
Okey dokey. First off, 'older people' didn't have all these f'ed up chemically enhanced woods we have today. Wood wasn't 'treated'. There wasn't OSB or other 'fake' wood. As for not knowing what I'm talking about...You really don't know ME. Here is a list of ALL the references I used to create this video. I do this for EVERY video. Pressure-Treated Wood: The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has highlighted the dangers of burning pressure-treated wood, which can release toxic chemicals such as arsenic, chromium, and copper. Arsenic, in particular, is a well-known carcinogen. Source: EPA - Pressure Treated Wood Engineered Wood Products: Burning engineered wood products can release formaldehyde, a known carcinogen. The International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), part of the World Health Organization (WHO), classifies formaldehyde as a Group 1 carcinogen. Source: IARC - Formaldehyde Pallet Wood: Many pallets are treated with chemicals like methyl bromide, which can release harmful toxins when burned. Methyl bromide is known for its toxicity and has been linked to various health issues, though its carcinogenic potential is less clear. Source: EPA - Methyl Bromide Painted or Stained Wood: Older paints may contain lead, which is a known carcinogen, especially if burned and inhaled. The IARC also classifies lead and lead compounds as Group 2A (probably carcinogenic to humans). Source: IARC - Lead Compounds Driftwood: Burning driftwood can produce dioxins due to its high salt content. Dioxins are classified by the IARC as Group 1 carcinogens. Source: WHO - Dioxins
@@offgridstyleprepper you show "studies" from those who created the issues. But it doesn't make your statement true. Stop listening to the government entities and start looking into the ways of the older people. You claim to be "off-grid", but it seems you still depend on the "grid" for your information. Me, however, am off-grid. I burn every wood you claim is bad for you. I'm still alive! I haven't gotten any health issues from any of it! Cause I'm not stupid. I use a thing called "common sense", which about 90% of people in general do not have anymore.
I show the studies that have been done. And no, primarily it was the lumber industry that wanted to come up with ways to make use of (and make more money) on all the wood chips and crap on the floor after they finished processing the trees, and next thing you know, we have OSB and plywood, which are both full of chemicals. As for the fact that I live off grid part of the time, I don't see what that has to do with woods being burned. I can't very well burn all these woods, then inhale the smoke and go get tested and xrays etc. The average person doesn't realize they shouldn't put..say, lead based painted wood, which any painted wood could be covering up, in their home fireplace. Or burn treated wood in their fireplace. Or many species of pine-especially here in the south, because if they do and don't clean out their chimneys, eventually they will be in trouble. It's great you are knowledgeable about woods, and safety in burning them. Not everyone is.
Are some of these a joke? I was waiting for the segway to 'so better purchase our Prepper-Proper (TM) wood chunks from the pile on our farm'. The one about rotten wood! True, it is a health / building hazard to collect, transport, season and generally handle while having a low heat content - so all round terrible.....but the actual burning of it? Probably the safest action except leaving it in the forest! The fungus / spores are dead at way lower temperatures than it will burn at 500F/ 350C and the resin/water will be sterlizing way lower than even that.
I already posted all the facts and research regarding burning these woods. As will all my videos, I make SURE of my statements. Essentially, it all boils down to this: if you are burning the wood, regardless of the temperature, at some point, you will burn the crap that is in/on the wood...and that will become airborne. Even those spores.
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For all of you who think I pulled this info from thin air...here are my documented research websites:
Pressure-Treated Wood: The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has highlighted the dangers of burning pressure-treated wood, which can release toxic chemicals such as arsenic, chromium, and copper. Arsenic, in particular, is a well-known carcinogen.
Source: EPA - Pressure Treated Wood
Engineered Wood Products: Burning engineered wood products can release formaldehyde, a known carcinogen. The International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), part of the World Health Organization (WHO), classifies formaldehyde as a Group 1 carcinogen.
Source: IARC - Formaldehyde
Pallet Wood: Many pallets are treated with chemicals like methyl bromide, which can release harmful toxins when burned. Methyl bromide is known for its toxicity and has been linked to various health issues, though its carcinogenic potential is less clear.
Source: EPA - Methyl Bromide
Painted or Stained Wood: Older paints may contain lead, which is a known carcinogen, especially if burned and inhaled. The IARC also classifies lead and lead compounds as Group 2A (probably carcinogenic to humans).
Source: IARC - Lead Compounds
Driftwood: Burning driftwood can produce dioxins due to its high salt content. Dioxins are classified by the IARC as Group 1 carcinogens.
Source: WHO - Dioxins
My parents used to burn a lot of well seasoned pine in a closed wood stove. So not much trouble with sparks and embers. But you did have to keep an eye on the state of the chimney. Too much pine in the mix and you could get a nasty tar like residue building up, and chimney fires are not a good thing. They had a dual wall insulated chimney so the inner surface stayed hot enough that buildup was never a problem, but dad checked it frequently to make sure. I still have their house, and the stove is still there. It hasn't been lit in ~15 years though, since Dad died. There's still a big woodpile in the woodshed, I always think when I'm up there some crisp fall day I should light a little fire in the stove in their memory. But it's also kind of nice to keep it just as he left it, ashes in the stove and all.
Burning pine don't mean nothing, houses all over NM burn pine,because no hard wood there,i used pine for 10 years while living there.
I think it would be a nice way to remember your dad by having a fire using the same tools his hands touched and getting wood from the same pile he would have and making new memories, his spirit will be with you.
You may not need that stove today, but someday you will and you'll thank your dad for keeping you warm! Put up a half a cord just in case of a emergency, that old wood alone will burn to hot and is dangerous!
@@billfitzpatrick6202 I've been adding to the wood pile through the years. There are a lot of trees on the farm and sometimes one blows over, etc.
Having heated my home with wood for decades, I can assure you there is a place for seasoned pine and soft woods, such as alder and poplar. I kept plenty of these woods reserved for fall and spring when you need less heat from a well drafted fire. Restricting airflow to harder wood creates more problems than cleanly burning softer wood.
I've burned a wide assortment of woods for nearly 50 years. You can burn any kind of wood providing your stove has proper ventilation. Keep your stove and pipework clean you wont have too many issues.
Indeed: push the temperature up and have lots of air flow - though I agree with 'don't burn green (or wet - that was implicit, but missed) wood' to ensure complete combustion; why the use of multi fuel stoves - the other being 'briquette smokeless coal' - is popular in my country (partially).
Though: having good quality, dry wood does make everything easier and simpler.
@rustirab3465 Where I live everyone burns wood. I'm way out in the boonies, no close neighbors. If you live in town house on top of house then this might be issue, but certainly not in my case.
@rustirab3465 Why?
When you're poor you burn what you can get. Just can't be choosy
you are correct. And I have my own pile of 'don't burn it but don't throw it away' wood as well.
Think twice before exposing children , seniors or immune compromised.
What about morning wood
@@gavinpickens9053 If THAT is 'burning' you might want to see a doctor. They have medicine for that. :)
@@gavinpickens9053 LMAO
In 1979 I burned green apple wood to warm our house for my little boys.. those were hard years, but we were grateful to GOD. Ya gotta do what ya gotta do..
Yes, you do. And in times that are hard, well, I still have my pile of wood that isn't 'suitable' for burning. I wasn't going to throw it away.
As most folk have closed stoves , you can burn anything within limits .
Couple small pieces of old railway sleepers are bang on for lighting the fire .
Only burn free wood. It keeps your heating costs at zero emissions.
It does insofar as purchase cost, but then you've got to have the tools to cut/block it, get it home, split it, let it dry under cover (tarp or roof, etc), have a place to store it. There's always a cost.
That's the best wood.
I agree religiously on some of the suggestions (pressure treated), not so much on others.
pressure treated wood gives bbq brisket a nice piquant flavor. for extra zip, use creosoted telephone poles.
ROFLMBO
All good for the most part.. all treated wood , bad, most dry wood , good.! I have burned green wood, half and half for years. I wager you a B+ on this one. That’s good..🎉
My dad was lived during the WW2 Era. He mentioned a story ( I'm not sure if they published it or not ) Where there was a
Platoon of Soldiers [ about 50 to 100 of them ] and those in command told some of the Lower ranking ones to go and Gather
Sticks off of " those Plants, " and the platoon would roast some kind of food on them ( probably hot dogs ) .
They did and the platoon roasted their food. Hours later those Soldiers Had Severe Digestive Pains / And all but 1 or 2 died .
The one(s) that survived " Didn't eat anything " roasted on those Sticks " !
The Sticks that were used were " Oleander " @ 4:24 !
People need also beware not to burn Oleander just as with poison ivy, the fumes are so toxic, breathing them could also be fatal.
Good morning Nikki. I did know about the different types of wood to burn and not to burn however I think this was a great video because most people don't know what wood can be harmful. Once again great video and have a great day.
G'morning! And no, most people have no clue that you can't just 'burn wood'. lol
What about morning wood..?
If that is burning, go see a doctor. They make creams for it.
The video is true for what woods not to burn indoors. For burning outside in a bonfire, with lots of fresh air circulation and dispersal, then including woods such as pallets, soft wood....,are fine, as long as the outdoor fire at that time is not going to be used for cooking. As I found in the Northwest, some places in the USA and Canada do not have much or any hardwoods. In our stove in Western Wash, we had to burn softwoods. However, we made sure to clean the chimney often (to avoid pitch/creosote chimney fires). And we had another heat source as well.
I knew about MDF, painted/varnished, pine, and mold/fungi covered wood, but the rest was new to me. I go to outdoor larp events, and singalongs by campfires are a big part of the weekends.
When I was a scout in the early 1970s our scoutmaster was a contractor. He used to bring “knockouts” of wood for us to burn on camping trips. I think some of them were from pressure treated wood. Oh well…
lol well, we were also the kids that ran after the mosquito truck or rode our bikes behind it lol Pretty sure we are unable to contract most diseases at this point
And yet the glory is,you are still alive.
and you're still here!! Thank god this lady has helped the stupid people out
This is good advice, there's nothing as important as your health. I fully understand that many people burn what they can afford or can get but if you get sick, it's going to cost you a lot more in medical bills.
We do burn pallets but we always look for the heat treated ones and any others are just use for other projects that will not affect our health.
I try to be aware of any scrap wood. I have created a big pile of all the 'ucky' wood, away from the cabin. I haven't thrown it out, nor will I, bc that wood MAY have to be burned one day...outside on our firepit/cooking fire. I don't have many oaks on my 5 acres, and of course don't want to cut any down. I have a ton of crappy pines (that's what I call them-southern pines are FULL of crappy stuff, and need to be seasoned at least a year and I still would only use them outside).
Sad thing? I've had tons of comments of people who say this video is false, or I'm a 'scare mongerer'.
@@offgridstyleprepper You're always going to get the so called experts on RUclips, I'm afraid it goes with the territory and most of them live in the city and have probably never ignited a fire in their lives. Best to just ignore them and carry on as if they don't exist.
As for pine it's probably best to leave it for 2 years and burn it really hot. I wish we could get our hands on that pine as we're burning peat. It gives out great heat but doesn't have the same energy compared to wood.
Peat like pine creates a dirty chimney so we just clean ours every 3 months lol.
Living in the south, we won't need much wood for heating purposes. It gets chilly at night, down into the high teens/low twenties a few times a year. But typically even then it isn't THAT cold inside the cabin..it's small. Body heat, lots of warm blankets, and bundling up work. We DO have a pot bellied stove that warms the whole cabin up within an hour, and one we put out the fire in it, the radiant heat continues to heat the cabin all night.
There is a lot of people way up north that burn drift wood to heat their house. They have done that for hundred's of years. They have also burned pine trees for hundreds of years. All trees have resin in them. As long as you let the wood cure good, you can burn it. Think about this... Maple syrup come from resin in the Maple tree.
Eucalyptus is also very bad both as firewood and especially cooking.
I was always told to be careful burning, in a stove, alder, applewood or tamarack, as they can burn so hot as to damage the stove. If you do burn some use 1 stick with a couple of sticks of other species of wood.
I have done that meny times before
In my neck of the woods, alder is a brush pile wood, hardly worth collefcting for fires. Ditto with apple-- pretty scarce is the woods. Tamarack/larch can burn out a stove in a hurry, so the trick is to use it in small batches rather than stuff the stove (as most people and women do) full. A third filling is fine, and let it burn down. And make sure it's DRY/seasoned.
Or use a sealed fireplace with internal blower ~a tall chimney helps
I burn everything outside in a huge cast iron creat with a vent window. I have to clean up my spring cleaning every year on my 4.5 acre yard. My crate bin sits on my gravel driveway away from everything and I have a hose to contain the fire so it won’t get out of control.
Back in the day when they burned people at the stake, they used green wood on people they really didn’t like.
😂😂😂 Sounds like Imma need a lot of green wood LOL
When did they burn people they liked?
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Toxic smoke is one dangerous thing but I`d also avoid using it for all kinds of cooking or smoking foods .
Thx, miss Nikki....... litterly heated by wood my whole time on this planet ..... nuttin like a cold wet day & chillin next to wood stove .... 🇺🇸😁👍
Sounds great!
Agreed
Thank you. Good to know.
Also, some older particle board products were reported to contain formaldehyde, which is a good chemical to stay far away from.
I burn a combination of mesquite, peach wood, oak and cottonwood. Cottonwood is plentiful in our area so we burn cottonwood with mesquite or some peach wood. Oak doesn't really need a mix but it is more aromatic with some mesquite or peach wood.
Hard to find, but English Walnut burns, releasing a sensory experience.. so lovely, burns hot.
I've got a whole pile of that that I've been saving. You've given me the perfect excuse to bring it over for this winter.
Went to a job site of a house remodel.
There were stacks of 2x4 cut to16 inches..
Asked the guy working there "why do you need all this cribing."
Was told that fire wood was $5.00 a bundle at the store and he wasn't going to pay that ..
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One in particular to avoid at all costs is laburnum
Paints have not contained lead for more than 50 years.
Well, let's see, what do homesteaders and preppers like to do...they like to keep stuff, 'just in case'. So, it is entirely possible they might have old paint or old painted wood lying around somewhere, just in case. Additionally, even without the lead in paint, the burning of painted/varnished/stained wood releases other harmful volatile chemicals.
Old paint on trim is often simply painted over.
It's easy to picture a poor or homeless person using old wood from an abandoned house or collapsing garage to make a fire.
In the woods me and my chainsaw never discussed any of this , I'll have a serious talk with him , but he is usually busy drinking 2 cycle oil mixed with gasoline . I hope that ain't toxic , he does it every single time we go ?
@@jimthomas1989 If you use high quality 2 cycle oil, it’s completely safe.
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So how are processed wood actually disposed if not burned? Plywood, particle board, pressure treated wood, etc.
Well, mine is all thrown into a pile...my 'just in case' pile lol. Can't quite throw it away, bc in true shtf or disaster situations, I may need it. I keep it a ways away from the cabin.
You can obviously repurpose it for some other project.
Or, most landfills will take it, but you do have to let them know up front what type of wood it is.
I can only speak to creosoted wood. Having worked for a railroad, I know that old railroad ties are burned as fuel in specially designed boilers at extremely high temperatures to make steam for power generation and other industrial uses. And the plant operators charge the railroads a disposal fee of several dollars per tie, even though they are getting essentially free fuel. The short line railroad where I worked was once quoted a disposal fee of $12.00 per tie by a co-generation steam plant. And that did not include the cost of trucking the ties to the plant, since the plant was located many miles from the nearest rail line.
I think I've burned all of those wood types you mentioned at one time or another, and many times over for some. I guess that's what's wrong with me. One year we burnt chunks of telephone poles, now that's some hot burning stuff! (Don't try this at home, kids.)
lol we use telephone poles as supports under the cabin. :)
phone poles=turbo wood....what a stink.....
Many years ago dad got a whole semi load of old telephone poles for free when they buried the phone lines past the farm. He used most of the wood for building projects around the farmyard (and ~50 years later they're still there) but he split up and burnt some of the smaller bits and leftovers in the wood stove. A few slivers of that creosote soaked wood made a great fire starter. Can't say I'd recommend doing that. But my parents went through the great depression and something like that leaves scars. They were firm believers in using what they had or doing without.
@@xlerb2286 Thanks for sharing that. My grandparents were about the same, lived through the depression, lived on what they had, etc. They taught me well.
@@offgridstyleprepper Where I used to live they were commonly used for fence posts.
Basically common sense, which a lot of people do not have.
In the west about the only fire wood is pine. As far as a wood burning to hot it can be controlled by your damper.
Very true that you can control the temp with a damper to a good degree...but fireplace dampers in particular aren't always the most reliable at controlling heat and burn rate.
Potbellied stoves and wood stoves have more control.
But if you are outside, burning these woods, then not much control there.
I am surrounded by pine. I will burn it as a last resort, bc it means somewhere between 20-50% more creosote buildup over a winter season. And if I'm the only person who is around to clean that potbellied stove out, I'd rather put it off as long as possible. Not to mention the fire hazard...in a wood cabin lol
When I lived in SoCal, we always had oak to burn in the winter. I remember lots of oaks all over, but there is also madrone; that is a good choice. :)
How about simulated wood? Will you only get a simulated fire?
I carry a box of matchrs in my pocket. If i fall onto the box the friction will create fumes which are hazardous and the fire will light the wood sticks in my pocket. Err common sence.
Umm...well, something about 'pants on fire' comes to mind, but hey, you do you. :)
A lot of myths about burning pine. I burn it all the time and have for years. In a lot of states people burn it because it's what they have. Certain types of pine are better than others. In some species once the sap gets hot it will burn just like Kerosene. You are right that it don't produce coals as good as hardwood so i like to mix it. Pine does get hot though so i've got to disagree there because it will run you out of my house sometimes. Cool smoking fires like you get with green wood are what cause creosote buildup. If you burn hot fires it isn't an issue. If your stove is working right you usually don't get smoke unless maybe you have just lit the fire. Most of the time all you can see is heat radiating off of my chimney, no smoke. In a closed stove there again if you have a little mold or fungi on wood it isn't going anywhere in a hot fire. The fire will kill that mess and burn it up though i still would recommend keeping wood as dry as one can.
Very good information here!
Thank you so much, for enjoying the video, and taking the time to comment! :)
Wow, interesting, thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
If you live in the western US you don't have much choice but to burn pine and other softwoods. It just needs to be well seasoned.
It's easy to think of remote exceptions.
1. Morning wood...
If your morning wood is burning, they make an antibiotic for that :)
If it burns see a doctor.
E-batteries burn cleanly.
Six months? I wouldn't burn wood that hasn't been seasoned for at least two summers.
Six months is fine for most woods. Also, too much drying time can make wood that burns as fast as paper, with little heat output.
What about natural Cedar?
Are you aware that most countries above the 60. parallel burn pine? Also I wonder what you may mean by ‘disposing safely’ when it concerns wood pressure treated with things like arsenic.
Since there are dozens of species of pine, many of which don't produce as much creosote as the crap we have in the south, it is probably much better. As for 'disposing safely'...well, my pressure treated and other wood that I don't want to burn is in a big ole pile about 500 yards away from the cabin. IF it's an SHTF situation, then I have it if I need it.
Good evening Nikki your shoutout video is out it well be live in 30 minutes so I hope u enjoy it
Awesome!
@@offgridstyleprepper happy we met for a reason when are your livesteams again
Very interesting
thanks for the tip
CCA has been banned in th EU since the noughties due to it's carcinogenic risks. What we call 'tanalised' is treated with a much more health friendly alternative, I don't know what it is though.
CCA has been banned in North America for about that long too. There are several alternatives now, particularly ACQ. The issue is that ACQ lumber is rarely rated for ground contact or submergence. The other I think more of a problem is that it eats fasteners, and you either have to use rated (heavily galvanized) or stainless steel fasteners.
I gotta finish splitting these walnut logs and juniper i don't get much yew wood cause the branches don't never die unless i cut them i burn white cedar and cooked with its needle's to and burnt hemlock to it burns like any other pine wood and i burn cherrywood don't have any oak i burn alot of silver maple kinda hard splitting that cause the wood twist so much then you run into hidden knuckles in the logs those maple logs will give you a good workout if your not cheating using a gas log splitter
VERYeducational and interestingTHANKYOU
Grate advice .🔥thanks for your video 📺.❤
It’s why most individuals should burn wood indoors only in an airtight stove.
Bois d'Arc Pops sparks all the time and could start a house fire. Might be OK in a stove, but not in the fireplace.
It is also very energy dense and burns hot.
I would add tulip poplar to this list because it pops and throws hot coals out of the fire.
Wood from east Palestine Tjernobil ( wood from a chemical determined earea or trash dump earea)
What?? No railroad ties?
As I watched this I just had an unusual and rare sneezing fit.......psycho-smoke?
Cherry laurel?
Everybody here burns everything. It don't matter what it is, it' goes in the burn. Why, burning is cheaper than a trash bill.
I have my 'dump pile' of these types of wood. Away from the cabin, but I can't throw it away, it's a just in case pile lol
The most costliest thing to burn is a hole in your pocket
You said wood!!!;)
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Anyone burn poplar (cottonwood)? It stinks. I guess if it smells bad then it can't br good for you.
The wood is ok, you are probably smelling the bugs and rot they cause in the wood. :)
@@offgridstyleprepper Yeah, probably. Here in Australia we usually burn old red gum, blue gum, ironbark, messmate (all eucalyptus). There would be plenty of that in California. It burns a treat once dried. Sadly it also burns a treat during a wildfire.
Low calorific value results in rather poor heat output. Okay if free... The ONLY time I experienced it stink when burning, was a tree whose roots had access to a sewage outflow!
@@johnboluski-zl1qn So maybe that's why it was discarded on someone's burn heap . . .
Russian Olive trees are also very toxic, I had issues with removing the roots breathed in the sawdust and had respiratory issues for a couple of months
A tree or those invasive bushes of autumn olive with thorns all over them
I was asking because some people do call the autumn olive russian olive might be 2 different plants though
Autumn and Russian olives are different but very similar trees.
Hi Nikki interesting video.
man, do you know what kind of wood doesn't float !
Yes, I do.
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Oleander is seriously bad but burning poison oak is worse. They both are trying to kill you.
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Good video, but why did you ignore dangerous plants like Laurel and Rhododendron which both emit cyanide?
Hmm...maybe because that will be another video? :)
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Yes you are! About time you popped up! :) Hiya, Bishop!
Natalie Wood.
It don’t float either. Sorry low class comment
oh that's a BAD joke lol 😂
Just stay cold
Why, when there is tons of safe wood to burn? :)
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G'morning, Ms. Hum!
@@offgridstyleprepperI had a snarky comment but I refrained 😂
I want taco crickets.
Taiwan will start on 8-27-2024
I've noticed that you get a lot of smart mouth and rude people in the comments LOL.
Hi! You are correct. Here is one thing I've noticed. As the channel has grown, so have the smart a$$ comments, the trolls, and the ones who just plain wanna argue with me bc THEY know best (I've noticed most of the male owned channels don't have as much of this).
Well, I kinda knew all this when I started. I am a person who has spent my entire life in roles where customer service, kindness, and my twisted sense of humor got me by.
Knowing I would have to deal with the issues I described above, I resolved to, as much as possible, let ppl say their rude/smart mouth comments. If it is truly offensive, or personal to myself or someone else on my channel, then I can always remove the comment. If it gets nasty personal, then I can always remove the person. If it is a valid point, then it should stay.
But, thank you for noticing. I TRY to 'keep it classy', however sometimes my inner little demon pops her head out and responds LOL
@@offgridstyleprepper Stay strong and keep up the good work. You have a great channel and most of us really appreciate the information and content. Take care. 👍
Thank you...there is a whole community here of amazing people who DON'T post rude comments. You can usually tell which is which simply by what they say :)
Duh. Thanks, mom.
Awesome, glad you knew this! Many people don't :)
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Hiya, Rick! :)
@@offgridstyleprepper Hady hay Nikki ! Guess this means i can't throw lawn tractor tires in my woodburner anymore lol 🤪
Yup, you have to have a thick hide to run a RUclips channel! 😂😂😂
Yes, you do. And if I haven't had a full cup of coffee yet, my hide isn't as thick as it needs to be sometimes LOL
Bunches of mis information here
No, actually there isn't any misinformation...here are the links to every single statement made in this video:
Pressure-Treated Wood: The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has highlighted the dangers of burning pressure-treated wood, which can release toxic chemicals such as arsenic, chromium, and copper. Arsenic, in particular, is a well-known carcinogen.
Source: EPA - Pressure Treated Wood
Engineered Wood Products: Burning engineered wood products can release formaldehyde, a known carcinogen. The International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), part of the World Health Organization (WHO), classifies formaldehyde as a Group 1 carcinogen.
Source: IARC - Formaldehyde
Pallet Wood: Many pallets are treated with chemicals like methyl bromide, which can release harmful toxins when burned. Methyl bromide is known for its toxicity and has been linked to various health issues, though its carcinogenic potential is less clear.
Source: EPA - Methyl Bromide
Painted or Stained Wood: Older paints may contain lead, which is a known carcinogen, especially if burned and inhaled. The IARC also classifies lead and lead compounds as Group 2A (probably carcinogenic to humans).
Source: IARC - Lead Compounds
Driftwood: Burning driftwood can produce dioxins due to its high salt content. Dioxins are classified by the IARC as Group 1 carcinogens.
Source: WHO - Dioxins
I totally agree with you on just about all of them and I tell people that they shouldn't use pallets to make stuff because you don't know what chemicals are in it from all the products shipped on it and I don't like using shipping containers for housing because you don't know what was in it.
@@jeffharper7579 Just like used water containers need to be washed out completely with bleach and water. Same with 'food grade' barrels ppl use for collecting rainwater. We put ours out to collect rain til full, then pour bleach in them and stir it up and let them sit in the sun a few days, then dump the water and rinse thoroughly. We then dump the water once a year (I usually put it into my 'sanitation' containers, bc when using it with toilets, it doesn't matter), wash with bleach and water and then let em fill back up. Common sense things like this, will end up saving someone's life some day.
I'm collecting rain water and run it through two big filters and a uv light just for showers a cleaning up plus the toilet. Long story short I'm doing some off grid and main lines but if power goes out I can still be ok till it comes back on. I'm conserving as much water as I can and I have two 275 gallon tanks and wanting one more. I am buying only new ones at t.s.c. using bottled for drinking, cooking and my cats. Where I live my neighbors have wells that are 800 + feet deep and not good water plus a slow to refill right now so they don't get much water.
Scare mongering.Good ventilation avoids these problems......more Greenie crap.
Okey Dokey. Well, while you are claiming I'm a scare mongerer and whatever the comment is about Greenies? First, you don't know me or my channel, and that's fine. Second, it is your choice to believe me or not, I do the research on my videos, and can give you, for each type of wood in this video, documentation on its being unsafe.
Third, don't believe me. Just please, if you have anyone who might have asthma, difficulty breathing, or other issues, keep them away from the toxic fires you are burning. It's your choice to breathe in toxic crap, but if they don't know, then you are slowly killing them without their knowledge.
"Good ventilation avoids these PROBLEMS"... so you agree that there are problems. Silly greenie. 😆 🤣
You don't really know what you are talking about. You should really talk to the older people who did just about everything you talked about in this video.
Okey dokey. First off, 'older people' didn't have all these f'ed up chemically enhanced woods we have today. Wood wasn't 'treated'. There wasn't OSB or other 'fake' wood. As for not knowing what I'm talking about...You really don't know ME. Here is a list of ALL the references I used to create this video. I do this for EVERY video.
Pressure-Treated Wood: The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has highlighted the dangers of burning pressure-treated wood, which can release toxic chemicals such as arsenic, chromium, and copper. Arsenic, in particular, is a well-known carcinogen.
Source: EPA - Pressure Treated Wood
Engineered Wood Products: Burning engineered wood products can release formaldehyde, a known carcinogen. The International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), part of the World Health Organization (WHO), classifies formaldehyde as a Group 1 carcinogen.
Source: IARC - Formaldehyde
Pallet Wood: Many pallets are treated with chemicals like methyl bromide, which can release harmful toxins when burned. Methyl bromide is known for its toxicity and has been linked to various health issues, though its carcinogenic potential is less clear.
Source: EPA - Methyl Bromide
Painted or Stained Wood: Older paints may contain lead, which is a known carcinogen, especially if burned and inhaled. The IARC also classifies lead and lead compounds as Group 2A (probably carcinogenic to humans).
Source: IARC - Lead Compounds
Driftwood: Burning driftwood can produce dioxins due to its high salt content. Dioxins are classified by the IARC as Group 1 carcinogens.
Source: WHO - Dioxins
@@offgridstyleprepper you show "studies" from those who created the issues. But it doesn't make your statement true. Stop listening to the government entities and start looking into the ways of the older people. You claim to be "off-grid", but it seems you still depend on the "grid" for your information. Me, however, am off-grid. I burn every wood you claim is bad for you. I'm still alive! I haven't gotten any health issues from any of it! Cause I'm not stupid. I use a thing called "common sense", which about 90% of people in general do not have anymore.
I show the studies that have been done. And no, primarily it was the lumber industry that wanted to come up with ways to make use of (and make more money) on all the wood chips and crap on the floor after they finished processing the trees, and next thing you know, we have OSB and plywood, which are both full of chemicals.
As for the fact that I live off grid part of the time, I don't see what that has to do with woods being burned. I can't very well burn all these woods, then inhale the smoke and go get tested and xrays etc.
The average person doesn't realize they shouldn't put..say, lead based painted wood, which any painted wood could be covering up, in their home fireplace. Or burn treated wood in their fireplace. Or many species of pine-especially here in the south, because if they do and don't clean out their chimneys, eventually they will be in trouble. It's great you are knowledgeable about woods, and safety in burning them. Not everyone is.
Such paranoia.
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Are some of these a joke? I was waiting for the segway to 'so better purchase our Prepper-Proper (TM) wood chunks from the pile on our farm'.
The one about rotten wood! True, it is a health / building hazard to collect, transport, season and generally handle while having a low heat content - so all round terrible.....but the actual burning of it? Probably the safest action except leaving it in the forest! The fungus / spores are dead at way lower temperatures than it will burn at 500F/ 350C and the resin/water will be sterlizing way lower than even that.
I already posted all the facts and research regarding burning these woods. As will all my videos, I make SURE of my statements. Essentially, it all boils down to this: if you are burning the wood, regardless of the temperature, at some point, you will burn the crap that is in/on the wood...and that will become airborne. Even those spores.
I roasted hot dogs over treated lumber once i turned green and for weeks i was water proof
Morning?
If that is burning, please consult a doctor. They make creams for that now. 😉