Another great video Robot...BTW, my wife and I bought this exact GTS 300 from Vespa Motorsports in San Diego shortly after you made this video. I changed the turn signal lights to the LED running lights, installed the heated grips and external USB 3.0, added the metal Vespa Motorsports bag holder and Piaggio folding rear rack with the OEM backrest and secured the Thunder bag. All installations were very easy thanks to your tutorials.
Thieves typically fall into two categories, impulse and planned. The impulse theft sees your scooter and tries to push it away. He is deterred by locking devices. He likely doesn't have tools with him. Kids are typically impulse thieves. A planned theft is harder to deter. He may have looked at your scooter and will return later. He may just appear as someone admiring your scoot. He is likely more sophisticated then an impulsive thief. He may have access to cutting tools and may have help. Believe it or not a cover is a deterrent! Scooters are eye candy and draw attention. A covered scooter is a question mark in peoples minds. Think Meagan Fox in a Burkha! Vespa? Chinese scooter? A cover also cloaks some security measures such as disc and handbrake locks. Someone standing around a covered scooter or peeking under is rather suspicious. Looking at an uncovered scooter isn't that suspicious. They may show up with cutters to cut your cable but be foiled by your disc lock they didn't know was there. Covered in your yard? Park it along a wall or fence and lean a piece of plywood against wall/fence covering it. Place a propane tank there so they might think it's a BBQ grill! Don't wash or park your scooter in front of your home. If 100 people see it, I can almost guarantee a few think about coming back and stealing it.I am also a big fan of very loud alarms. Some are rather inexpensive battery operated made for bicycles/motorcycles. Remember they can't steal what they don't know is there!
In addition to a secured motorcycle cover, hiding what is beneath, there are some other deterrent/ protection ”layers” needed. There are movement sensitive alarm disc locks, like Abus Granit Detecto X Plus 8008. This would withstand a sledgehammer. There are chains like the ones made by Pragmasis, which would need several minutes, two batteries and 2 to 3 cutting discs for a angle grinder, to cut through. Also, U locks like Litelok X3 which would withstand any bolt cutter, except hydraulic, and angle grinders for several minutes. A surveillance camera and visible signs showing the area is under video surveillance, is also a good deterrent. And the last defense, a GPS tracker hidden somewhere under the scooter fairings. And obviously, as it is USA, an owner, well known as well armed and very proficient in using firearms, would be the ultimate deterrent against any thieves. The solutions presented by Robot in this video are as good as giving a rubdown to a wooden leg...
A good tip, if your parking and at a railway station, or shopping mall. If there is nothing to secure your scooter to. But other bikes/scooters are chained up. Put your chain through theirs. Will make both your vehicles more secure.
I use a disc lock to which I tied a rope and one end of that that rope goes to the handles so I never forget it ;) I am also thinking of adding a GPS tracker somewhere, so in case it does get taken (for parts or something) the perpetrator would be tracked.
Thieves normally go around in groups, so I am paranoid that my Vespa will get pinched! So, I use a Grip Lock, Disc-Lock and if I'm nervous enough the cable Lock! I do also sometimes take my big thick Motorcycle chain Lock, that weighs a ton! I would be devastated if it was Nicked!!
I've been using the Grip Lock on my 2021 HPE300 Supertech for 6 months now. I've noticed lately when I return to the bike after it's been parked for a couple of hours that the rear wheel isn't locked - the brake has released. The lock is still holding the brake lever in place, but something else is going on where the rear brake itself is releasing after a certain period of time.....
I like you a lot and you are helping me and I am going to buy my stuff from you - If I could talk to you I would get you to tell me all the stuff I need and buy it from you. I am old and new scooter. I did a Buddy Kick because that speed is good for me. It's being shipped! Thank you - shhh gottta watch
What about parking next to a pole and wrapping the 6 foot cable around the bottom of the frame and the the pole? *Note: Check that the pole is secured into the ground. Many can be lifted out or have been compromised by thieves looking for an easy score.
@@VespaMotorsport Why is the rear brake best? If applied to the front brake wouldn't the scooter stay on the center stand and not be able to be rolled off?
I’ve been putting my grip lock on the front brake to also immobilize the throttle, because it takes less time to depressurize the hydraulic brake lines than it does to remove the front wheel. My LX has a wimpy rear drum brake, not sure immobilizing it is much of a security enhancement. But the objective of all of these is to *deter* thefts. If a thief wants *A* scooter, hopefully they’ll pick one with fewer deterrents. If a thief wants *YOUR* scooter, he’s going to get it. Throwing it in a van and driving off leaves plenty of time to grind this stuff off in the privacy of his own evil lair. I’m also hoping the Apple AirTag I hid in its guts and prominent “GPS tracking device” sticker are a further deterrent - and they cost less than a Grip Lock.
Foldy Lock makes a folding lock for scooters and e-bikes. I think it is rated a Gold 18 rating for security. It might be a more compact option than a cable. I have heard from police that most thefts (of anything) are when people forget to lock something up with the built-in lock, whether it be a bike, a car, a house, etc. Thieves do NOT want to be hassled or draw attention to themselves. They will walk by your thing and go to another one that is easier. That's true of professionals, or opportunists. Basically, just make it a giant pain in the butt for the thief and they will probably move on. Nothing is certain though.
ive seen motorcycle thieves crank the handle bars straight on motorcycles, effectively almost breaking the steering before making off with it.... is this something thats just as easily done on these?
@@VespaMotorsport I see, I thought I saw a new BV in the background of one of your videos. By the way, I have a BV350 and your videos have been very helpful. I recently installed heated grips following your instructions. 👍
well the issue is in some places like NYC. Currently your motorcycle or scooter is more likely to be stolen while riding believe it or not. - They will spot the scooter they want, and generally scooter will not be on streets for long few hours max. Meaning they will wait around, and wait for you to show up, once you take off, and remove all your locks, they will pull up next to or from behind as a 2 man team, and stick you up with a gun. At this point there really isnt much to do, If your scooter is a 250 300cc you probably could speed away if your quick otherwise you risk speeding in NYC and probably crashing into someone or something cause your freaking out. NYC right now is a bad place to own a scooter at the moment, which absolutely sucks, because I want to buy one so bad to get around but knowing I most likely will get robbed for it makes me not want to get one. I guess its the stinky train and bus for me, so sad
@@VespaMotorsport Many Vespa 300 HPE consume more than 500ml of lubricating oil by driving 2000 kilometers,This is the 10w-50 engine oil recommended by the dealer. The dealers said this kind of 10W50 Engine oil could consume less than 5W40
That grip lock doesn't look like its going to do a lot of good. It seems to have a simple wafer lock that any thief can easily pick or rake open in seconds.
I have Vespa but my kilometre change into in mile total But iwant to change in total kilometre What can I do to change in kilometre My kilometre in their 5100 In mile3178 I want to change in total kilometre
Best security, full insurance coverage.
What happens if you have full coverage and you get your scooter stolen? Will they replace your scooter or do they just give you a little cash?
@@kurtwiredd depends on your insurance, mine gives my money back for the first year. Then the day worth
Another great video Robot...BTW, my wife and I bought this exact GTS 300 from Vespa Motorsports in San Diego shortly after you made this video. I changed the turn signal lights to the LED running lights, installed the heated grips and external USB 3.0, added the metal Vespa Motorsports bag holder and Piaggio folding rear rack with the OEM backrest and secured the Thunder bag. All installations were very easy thanks to your tutorials.
Awesome, thanks for the support. Glad we could help out!
Thieves typically fall into two categories, impulse and planned. The impulse theft sees your scooter and tries to push it away. He is deterred by locking devices. He likely doesn't have tools with him. Kids are typically impulse thieves.
A planned theft is harder to deter. He may have looked at your scooter and will return later. He may just appear as someone admiring your scoot. He is likely more sophisticated then an impulsive thief. He may have access to cutting tools and may have help.
Believe it or not a cover is a deterrent! Scooters are eye candy and draw attention. A covered scooter is a question mark in peoples minds. Think Meagan Fox in a Burkha! Vespa? Chinese scooter? A cover also cloaks some security measures such as disc and handbrake locks. Someone standing around a covered scooter or peeking under is rather suspicious. Looking at an uncovered scooter isn't that suspicious. They may show up with cutters to cut your cable but be foiled by your disc lock they didn't know was there. Covered in your yard? Park it along a wall or fence and lean a piece of plywood against wall/fence covering it. Place a propane tank there so they might think it's a BBQ grill! Don't wash or park your scooter in front of your home. If 100 people see it, I can almost guarantee a few think about coming back and stealing it.I am also a big fan of very loud alarms. Some are rather inexpensive battery operated made for bicycles/motorcycles.
Remember they can't steal what they don't know is there!
Great points, thanks!
In addition to a secured motorcycle cover, hiding what is beneath, there are some other deterrent/ protection ”layers” needed. There are movement sensitive alarm disc locks, like Abus Granit Detecto X Plus 8008. This would withstand a sledgehammer. There are chains like the ones made by Pragmasis, which would need several minutes, two batteries and 2 to 3 cutting discs for a angle grinder, to cut through. Also, U locks like Litelok X3 which would withstand any bolt cutter, except hydraulic, and angle grinders for several minutes. A surveillance camera and visible signs showing the area is under video surveillance, is also a good deterrent. And the last defense, a GPS tracker hidden somewhere under the scooter fairings. And obviously, as it is USA, an owner, well known as well armed and very proficient in using firearms, would be the ultimate deterrent against any thieves. The solutions presented by Robot in this video are as good as giving a rubdown to a wooden leg...
A good tip, if your parking and at a railway station, or shopping mall. If there is nothing to secure your scooter to. But other bikes/scooters are chained up. Put your chain through theirs.
Will make both your vehicles more secure.
I use a disc lock to which I tied a rope and one end of that that rope goes to the handles so I never forget it ;)
I am also thinking of adding a GPS tracker somewhere, so in case it does get taken (for parts or something) the perpetrator would be tracked.
New to Vespa ownership and new to your channel. Thanks for having the excellent RUclips channel!!
Thieves normally go around in groups, so I am paranoid that my Vespa will get pinched! So, I use a Grip Lock, Disc-Lock and if I'm nervous enough the cable Lock! I do also sometimes take my big thick Motorcycle chain Lock, that weighs a ton! I would be devastated if it was Nicked!!
Excellent demo as usual
Learning so much watching your videos Robot...🤟🍺🤟 thanks
Really helpful! Thanks, Robot!
Can the grip lock cause problems to the braking system if it’s applying pressure to the brakes overnight every day?
probably yes
Wondering about tracking devices.
Best way to lock a piaggio mp3 500?
Disc lock or chain?
New owner and new to the Chanel.
Would be really cool to see center stand made with an area to put a padlock on it.
Thanks for the helpful video!
I can tell you from personal experience that anyone with a set of bolt cutters can slice right through that cable like scissors through paper.
I've been using the Grip Lock on my 2021 HPE300 Supertech for 6 months now. I've noticed lately when I return to the bike after it's been parked for a couple of hours that the rear wheel isn't locked - the brake has released. The lock is still holding the brake lever in place, but something else is going on where the rear brake itself is releasing after a certain period of time.....
Hi
Just watch the video
Have you any videos on electronic alarms and immobilisers
Many thanks
John f
Thanks for the video! Mr Robot 🤖
Thank you! Do you know if a Xena 10mm disc lock fits on the new primavera, and if the alarm is worthwhile?
I like you a lot and you are helping me and I am going to buy my stuff from you - If I could talk to you I would get you to tell me all the stuff I need and buy it from you. I am old and new scooter. I did a Buddy Kick because that speed is good for me. It's being shipped! Thank you - shhh gottta watch
Do u know how hard would it be to cut that cable like with a bolt cutter?
More power to you Sir.
Thanks
Thanks for tips
What about parking next to a pole and wrapping the 6 foot cable around the bottom of the frame and the the pole? *Note: Check that the pole is secured into the ground. Many can be lifted out or have been compromised by thieves looking for an easy score.
Does it matter if you put the grip lock on the front brake or the rear brake?
The rear brake is best.
@@VespaMotorsport Why is the rear brake best? If applied to the front brake wouldn't the scooter stay on the center stand and not be able to be rolled off?
I’ve been putting my grip lock on the front brake to also immobilize the throttle, because it takes less time to depressurize the hydraulic brake lines than it does to remove the front wheel. My LX has a wimpy rear drum brake, not sure immobilizing it is much of a security enhancement. But the objective of all of these is to *deter* thefts. If a thief wants *A* scooter, hopefully they’ll pick one with fewer deterrents. If a thief wants *YOUR* scooter, he’s going to get it. Throwing it in a van and driving off leaves plenty of time to grind this stuff off in the privacy of his own evil lair. I’m also hoping the Apple AirTag I hid in its guts and prominent “GPS tracking device” sticker are a further deterrent - and they cost less than a Grip Lock.
Tomorrow I'm buying a chain so I can secure my helmet to the Vespa. any reason that WON'T suffice?
Is the VIN number hard for thieves to deal with?
Foldy Lock makes a folding lock for scooters and e-bikes. I think it is rated a Gold 18 rating for security. It might be a more compact option than a cable. I have heard from police that most thefts (of anything) are when people forget to lock something up with the built-in lock, whether it be a bike, a car, a house, etc. Thieves do NOT want to be hassled or draw attention to themselves. They will walk by your thing and go to another one that is easier. That's true of professionals, or opportunists. Basically, just make it a giant pain in the butt for the thief and they will probably move on. Nothing is certain though.
What about GPS trackers? Do a video on that
In New Orleans thieves will crank on a scooter with a locked handlebar until the frame breaks, totaling the bike. Very difficult to repair
ive seen motorcycle thieves crank the handle bars straight on motorcycles, effectively almost breaking the steering before making off with it.... is this something thats just as easily done on these?
They often use a length of pipe or scaffold to provide leverage when breaking the handlebar locks.
I sometimes forget lock my Piaggio mp3 250 IE! Mr. Robot Right now I need two spare keys 🔑 because I been using my red master key!
Don't lose that key! We can clone you some keys, but you will have to send us the key you have.
Introducing and reviewing the new BV 300/400 models has been long over due
The BV400 is not out yet in the USA, but we will do a review of it the second we get one. We have a few reviews of the BV350.
@@VespaMotorsport I see, I thought I saw a new BV in the background of one of your videos. By the way, I have a BV350 and your videos have been very helpful. I recently installed heated grips following your instructions. 👍
Hello, I'm a big fan of you. Do you do shipments to Mexico?
Nice one mate. I wire a 20v drill battery to my frame let's just say it stops cockroach thieves shockingly well haha
well the issue is in some places like NYC. Currently your motorcycle or scooter is more likely to be stolen while riding believe it or not.
- They will spot the scooter they want, and generally scooter will not be on streets for long few hours max. Meaning they will wait around, and wait for you to show up, once you take off, and remove all your locks, they will pull up next to or from behind as a 2 man team, and stick you up with a gun.
At this point there really isnt much to do, If your scooter is a 250 300cc you probably could speed away if your quick otherwise you risk speeding in NYC and probably crashing into someone or something cause your freaking out.
NYC right now is a bad place to own a scooter at the moment, which absolutely sucks, because I want to buy one so bad to get around but knowing I most likely will get robbed for it makes me not want to get one. I guess its the stinky train and bus for me, so sad
A lot of Vespa 300 HPE consume too much oil in China，Does this happen to your Vespa 300 Hpe?
Yes, in the USA owners manual they tell you to check the oil every time you ride.
@@VespaMotorsport Many Vespa 300 HPE consume more than 500ml of lubricating oil by driving 2000 kilometers,This is the 10w-50 engine oil recommended by the dealer. The dealers said this kind of 10W50 Engine oil could consume less than 5W40
Unfortunately the grip lock is easily beaten by placing a skateboard under the back wheel to roll away the Vespa into a truck.
Look at lite locks brand
Or get a Kymco, no one wants a Kynco :D best deterrent of them all, getting one that no one wants
I'm sure that thefts are up on these things. Times are getting desperate.
That grip lock doesn't look like its going to do a lot of good. It seems to have a simple wafer lock that any thief can easily pick or rake open in seconds.
Or you can easily cut the lever off.
Hey! Robot don’t waste your time when the bad guy come is more than one,and they pick the Vespa up and take it in a van so no point.
Yes, but you don't want to make it too easy for them.
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I have Vespa but my kilometre change into in mile total
But iwant to change in total kilometre
What can I do to change in kilometre
My kilometre in their 5100
In mile3178
I want to change in total kilometre
Yes we will do a video for that on the GTS. It should be out soon. Thanks
P
Use any of these locks in the UK it won’t last a day
Hmm had some past issues ?
@@Wowietalks Not personally but every 15 minutes in the UK a motorcycle is stolen so minimum you have to use is a disc lock and chain.