Given that it wasn't too long ago there were serious concerns that IndyCar could lose its 2nd most iconic event to Nascar or F1, I'd say Penske buying the Long Beach GP is a pretty solid W.
Given this will be your first F1 race, hopefully you can do a video to discuss what IndyCar should / shouldn't adapt from F1 in terms of presentation, fan interaction and experience
@@davidgray1515 Hey, I'll watch an IndyCar race over an F1 race almost any time - But clearly the series struggles in the public eye, trailing both F1 and NASCAR. It's not blasphemy to look at what these other series are doing and try to adapt the things they do well to IndyCar to get more eyes on the product
@92joehal true I was just thinking it would be cool, maybe just keep it to North American GPs, IndyCar needs David for sure, he's about the only one on RUclips talking about IndyCar, most motorsport RUclipsrs in America are NASCAR centric and most British are F1 centric but Aiden Millward does cover other stuff too
@TheMadMonk9 he traded most of his tracks to nascar for part owner ship in nascar, you can tell by his drivers getting a pass in nascar even more so now. shouldn't be long before the few elite team owners will just draw straws to see who wins and where they place.
There's your NASCAR California street race. My first race (of any kind) was the Long Beach Grand Prix in 1991 (and 1992). As a kid who grew up in the area, spent time "camping" with my parents (Queen Mary RV trips) in the area, it was a very cool experience.
I think you make a good point that all Indycar has to do to promote LBGP is not screw it up. The fear for Indycar fans is that the series is stagnant, whereas the fear with say, NASCAR fans is that the series seems to make decisions specifically to personally spite the fans. For that, if nothing else, I say better that Indycar buy LBGP than NAPCAR.
NASCAR changed too much, before Roger Penske bought the series IndyCar consistently added new races and the schedule wasn't stale...NASCAR changed everything BUT the schedule for years and everyone got sick of so many races on 1.5 cookie cutters!
3:35 MSR interestingly has 4 drivers (Dixon/Rosenqvist for enduro rounds) in the 60 for the Daytona 24 but only 3 in the 93 car (Palou for enduro rounds). Maybe they’ll add in Max into the 93 alongside Palou (a fellow Team Redline sim racer) for the Daytona 24?
My first F1 race was the non-championship Questor Grand Prix at Ontario Motor Speedway in 1971. In ‘73 I saw Stewart beat Fittipaldi at Monaco. And then in the late 80s and early 90s I did 100 races as an F1 journalist . . .
Totally agree, I’ve mentioned it to him multiple times, but nothing changes so I refuse to watch and give him a thumbs up until he can align his headlines and get to the freaking point. He certainly is well informed and passionate about INDYCAR.
Thanks. I’m so happy that you’ll get to enjoy the Vegas GP on-site. If there’s any city that consistently knows how to deliver a show and entertain, it’s Las Vegas. It’s often gaudy, tacky, and cliche, but they know how to make that stuff work in Sin City.
Penske owns Indy race series, why is it bad that they own a race event? Especially when NO ONE in America with the capital to do what Penske has (he ain't the richest dude here...). With the sudden popularity in F1 from American fans, Andretti getting the luke warm shoulder from F1, Indy is so rad...he's hedging bets simply because of his true love for the sport. Great commentary!
Penske has every right to buy a few tracks especially since NASCAR owns a bunch of tracks and won't let IndyCar race on them, I guess NASCAR don't like IndyCar fans money...
7:55 I hope sign Linus Lundqvist alongside Sting-Ray Robb for 2025 also 8:23 word around says that Devlin De Francesco is taking RLL’s #30 ride because he’s got funding for that seat, yet again leaving RLL’s reserve driver, Juri Vips on the outside looking in.
Honestly I could see Max doing Daytona with Bimmer. For those unaware Max owns or co-owns, Team Redline, an E-sports sim racing team, they represent BMW in most championships they race. You might think hows an Esports team gonna get someone a drive in an M Hybrid V8? Well, its Max Verstappens sim racing team, not just a nobody. And honestly, if he wanted, I think he could just pick the car he likes the most and ask the manufacturer if theyd let him drive, why would any manufacturer turn down the, arguably, best driver in the world atm? Especially when he wont have Honda ties anymore from 26 onwards. Would be very cool to see him do it in a Mustang GT3 first tho and that would be much easier since Ford will be Red Bulls partner in the new engine regs
This is something Honda does on a regular basis. Lot of promo stuff. My cousin runs/drives the Honda HRC Baja trophy truck team (he is the guy in the truck for the Honda commercial that Senna, Max and Jett Lawrence are in). He was in Texas when the COTA race was going on and doing the promo stuff with his truck with Yuki. Red Bull and Honda have been promoting a ton.
I'm not thrilled with Cannon parting with Foyt. But, he reminds me of "Suitcase" Jake Elder. Absolute genius and always on the move. Glad to see Penske purchase the Long Beach Grand Prix. SRR to JHR. I wish him luck but, I hope he finds a home... Somewhere.
For context : Max Verstappen is more or less planning to retire early and then do some 'fun stuff' (which is believed to be Le Mans / WEC / IMSA rather than Indycar)
It's disappointing that Grosjean isn't going to run indycar next year. It's so weird he got close to winning with coyne and then went to andretti and was disappointing then juncos. Romain is talented, but maybe sportscars are more his fortay.
Romaine Lettuce cant drive worth a shit. You must enjoy fiery first lap crashes that happen for no known reason. I prefer good clean racing and not hitting the wall. Im old, I guess young people just go to watch the crashes.
@@davidgray1515 correct. Grosjean has been a waste since he stepped into Piquet Jr's Renault seat in 2009. He's never improved. It's amazing to me that so many people thought there was an upside to that guy.
Like to see the celebrity race return at Long Beach, but get A list celebrities who know and love auto racing, not a bunch of random so called celebrities.
Btw. It's a little unfortunate that Indycar and especially F1 drivers aren't at the SKUSA supernats. It could go a long way in promoting the sport in the US and the race is only a week apart. 10-15 years ago Schumacher and Dan Weldon and Buddy Rice and others raced it.
A few pro drivers have recently. Will Power and Oliver Askew raced in X30 Pro and Pro Shifter at SuperNats two years ago. Bruno Spengler raced this year in KA100 Masters and finished P7.
I suspect the Vegas GP wont be with us in a few years. Pissing off the locals will not work when they are also not making enough money to justify shutting down the strip for weeks. Be glad you got there now
What you say is true. But it’s my understanding that Liberty Media is the promoter and owner of the Las Vegas GP. Liberty Media owns F1 itself. If the owner of the series owns a specific Grand Prix, that Grand Prix probably isn’t going anywhere.
yo my man...ive lived and traveled for 16 months (seen many races over that time also, happily) full-time in a coach...im now heading west for the next year-ish, and just made it to el paso. im dying in the nasal passages! thanks for the vids. would love to meet if you attend thermal; ill be in the cusick crew! edit: 2nd juncos charter to prema!
ruclips.net/video/vfqKZ31Ijr0/видео.htmlsi=A9tB2cw3JDC9K8Tc Darian is one of Stark Raving Sports voice over’s. This video was uploaded yesterday. He’s seemingly doing fine, just seemingly stepped back from his channel.
He'd only buy them to shut them down, as he's done with every other super speedway that's threatened Indy; whether that was the motivation or not it was the end result. And that was even before he owned Indy and was motivated to as such.
if indy car fails penske can sell long beach for a profit to nascar. detroit is a mickey mouse sort of track that nobody attends. so that is a big demerit. David bring a giant lunch box to the f1 race unless you want to pay 1000 dollars for a ham sandwich.
While I’m against people owning series, also owing the tracks and some of the teams I am extremely happy that Penske still invest into Indycar and keeps everything rolling
Oh. And no. The last lap was HORRIBLE!!! Should never come to that. He had no chance to get by. There is a LOT of talk behind the scenes about the situation. Pissed off a LOT of people
great video david, glad to hear youre getting some opportunities to show your skill as an on track reporter. this is tangentially related but what did you think of the article RACER did pushing back on grosjeans criticisms?
hard to believe you would be allowed anywhere near a F1 race, maybe you will get appointed to pick out danicas outfits, you two would make a great match.
I can see the positives in terms of Penske owning the Long Beach GP, especially stopping NASCAR & F1 from stealing it... But the pessimist in me says let's see how this plays out in a few years to see if it *is* a positive.
Sorry that you will have to suffer through the LV GP for your first F1 race. Who the hell wants to see a race at 1am? Come to Austin and see a proper GP.
Why? Take away a seat that should go to a much quicker driver? Indycar isn't a learner series. She would have finished a half lap behind the Pro Shifter class this weekend (no, I'm not joking).
Just put a fork in Indy Car. Outside of Indy it's dead, and even Indy is not Indy anymore. Watching the same spec cars year after year brings nothing to the table worth watching. With only one 500 mile race there is no triple crown and no hope of one. Michigan just sits and there are a couple of other tracks perfect for 2 more 500 mile super speedway races, but no one in power cares about the past history when Indy Car's were king. Just about as boring as it gets. NASCAR is dead too, so Indy Car is not alone. Put a fork in em. They are well done
Are these guys not embarrassed that they are playing dress-up? They are very publicly not qualified to be there and clearly being upcharged like a private school kid buying weed. I couldn't live with myself if I was doing that.
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Given that it wasn't too long ago there were serious concerns that IndyCar could lose its 2nd most iconic event to Nascar or F1, I'd say Penske buying the Long Beach GP is a pretty solid W.
Given this will be your first F1 race, hopefully you can do a video to discuss what IndyCar should / shouldn't adapt from F1 in terms of presentation, fan interaction and experience
Indy car has way way too much F1 now! It needs to go back to its roots and lose the F1 people who crash on the first lap. LMFAO!
They can start by not starting races at 10pm local time...
@@dmarshall51481am est time
I've been to both, IndyCar is way ahead of F1 for both fan interaction and experience.
@@davidgray1515 Hey, I'll watch an IndyCar race over an F1 race almost any time - But clearly the series struggles in the public eye, trailing both F1 and NASCAR. It's not blasphemy to look at what these other series are doing and try to adapt the things they do well to IndyCar to get more eyes on the product
Man imagine David Land on European soil interviewing F1 guys if he can get the passes to the paddock!
Nah, hes way too good to have to go suffer there in that disgusting rich peoples club
Why? David is more or less the only guy who does IndyCar. We need him for that.
@@bernardoberner4 Yeah, because IndyCar is full of poor people barely making ends meet.
@92joehal true I was just thinking it would be cool, maybe just keep it to North American GPs, IndyCar needs David for sure, he's about the only one on RUclips talking about IndyCar, most motorsport RUclipsrs in America are NASCAR centric and most British are F1 centric but Aiden Millward does cover other stuff too
F1 sucks
Sting Ray Robb needs Romain Grosjean as a teammate.
Penske owned Ontario and Fontana. I trust that guy as far as I can throw him.
@TheMadMonk9 he traded most of his tracks to nascar for part owner ship in nascar, you can tell by his drivers getting a pass in nascar even more so now. shouldn't be long before the few elite team owners will just draw straws to see who wins and where they place.
Bought up PPIR to shut it down for a Denver track that never happened. Left it in disrepair and made it in the contract to never be raced at again.
There's your NASCAR California street race.
My first race (of any kind) was the Long Beach Grand Prix in 1991 (and 1992). As a kid who grew up in the area, spent time "camping" with my parents (Queen Mary RV trips) in the area, it was a very cool experience.
That pro shifter final was nuts. Loved it all weekend. Have fun at the GP man
Was it on Mavtv or something else ?
Lets communicate that to them keep the IMSA race etc. See if we can make an impact.
Imagine if Penske bought Pocono Raceway, I should think Penske would know what to do to better the track safety wise for Indycar’s sake.
I agree Pocono needs to come back especially if Michigan may never come back.
Can Pocono be made safe enough?
@@CharlesFlahertyB yeah
And then NASCAR would drop it from their schedule and it will lose money.
They added the aeroscreen because of a Pocono crash. Don't race there because its "too dangerous" (road course drivers don't respect oval racing)
I think you make a good point that all Indycar has to do to promote LBGP is not screw it up. The fear for Indycar fans is that the series is stagnant, whereas the fear with say, NASCAR fans is that the series seems to make decisions specifically to personally spite the fans. For that, if nothing else, I say better that Indycar buy LBGP than NAPCAR.
NASCAR changed too much, before Roger Penske bought the series IndyCar consistently added new races and the schedule wasn't stale...NASCAR changed everything BUT the schedule for years and everyone got sick of so many races on 1.5 cookie cutters!
3:35 MSR interestingly has 4 drivers (Dixon/Rosenqvist for enduro rounds) in the 60 for the Daytona 24 but only 3 in the 93 car (Palou for enduro rounds). Maybe they’ll add in Max into the 93 alongside Palou (a fellow Team Redline sim racer) for the Daytona 24?
I was so lucky to see my first F1 race at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway
BHA baby!
My first F1 race was the non-championship Questor Grand Prix at Ontario Motor Speedway in 1971.
In ‘73 I saw Stewart beat Fittipaldi at Monaco.
And then in the late 80s and early 90s I did 100 races as an F1 journalist . . .
Me too
@ BHA baby
I saw the Sting Ray news drop today, so that’s something. Really hope Conor can still get the other seat.
I would contribute to crowd funding if it helped Conor get that seat.
Stingray's checks never bounce
Indycar moving to the Fox Networks is also a good move because of Comcast news of consolidating their network portfolios into separate entities.
Indycar left nbc at right time then
This guy sure makes a short story long!!! I sure miss Robin Miller!!!
Totally agree, I’ve mentioned it to him multiple times, but nothing changes so I refuse to watch and give him a thumbs up until he can align his headlines and get to the freaking point. He certainly is well informed and passionate about INDYCAR.
I am worried about Iowa. If they keep it at a half paved track then the event is going to tank. NASCAR of course is the reason they won't repave it.
Thanks. I’m so happy that you’ll get to enjoy the Vegas GP on-site. If there’s any city that consistently knows how to deliver a show and entertain, it’s Las Vegas. It’s often gaudy, tacky, and cliche, but they know how to make that stuff work in Sin City.
Penske owns Indy race series, why is it bad that they own a race event? Especially when NO ONE in America with the capital to do what Penske has (he ain't the richest dude here...). With the sudden popularity in F1 from American fans, Andretti getting the luke warm shoulder from F1, Indy is so rad...he's hedging bets simply because of his true love for the sport. Great commentary!
Penske has every right to buy a few tracks especially since NASCAR owns a bunch of tracks and won't let IndyCar race on them, I guess NASCAR don't like IndyCar fans money...
@@PaperBanjo64 Nascar owns Iowa speedway. Indycar held 2 races there last year. I don't think the France family minds taking money from Roger.
7:55 I hope sign Linus Lundqvist alongside Sting-Ray Robb for 2025 also 8:23 word around says that Devlin De Francesco is taking RLL’s #30 ride because he’s got funding for that seat, yet again leaving RLL’s reserve driver, Juri Vips on the outside looking in.
Honestly I could see Max doing Daytona with Bimmer.
For those unaware Max owns or co-owns, Team Redline, an E-sports sim racing team, they represent BMW in most championships they race.
You might think hows an Esports team gonna get someone a drive in an M Hybrid V8? Well, its Max Verstappens sim racing team, not just a nobody.
And honestly, if he wanted, I think he could just pick the car he likes the most and ask the manufacturer if theyd let him drive, why would any manufacturer turn down the, arguably, best driver in the world atm? Especially when he wont have Honda ties anymore from 26 onwards.
Would be very cool to see him do it in a Mustang GT3 first tho and that would be much easier since Ford will be Red Bulls partner in the new engine regs
Max might move to Aston Martin team in 2026 and reunite with Adrian Newey and Honda.
Whenever I'm NV, UT, AZ no matter how much water I drink, I never feel fully hydrated
Or if you are really old "Minardi" I didn't come here to be called out like this lol
This is something Honda does on a regular basis. Lot of promo stuff. My cousin runs/drives the Honda HRC Baja trophy truck team (he is the guy in the truck for the Honda commercial that Senna, Max and Jett Lawrence are in). He was in Texas when the COTA race was going on and doing the promo stuff with his truck with Yuki. Red Bull and Honda have been promoting a ton.
Thanks for the update DL
I'm not thrilled with Cannon parting with Foyt. But, he reminds me of "Suitcase" Jake Elder. Absolute genius and always on the move. Glad to see Penske purchase the Long Beach Grand Prix. SRR to JHR. I wish him luck but, I hope he finds a home... Somewhere.
For context : Max Verstappen is more or less planning to retire early and then do some 'fun stuff' (which is believed to be Le Mans / WEC / IMSA rather than Indycar)
I love David land so much
It’s an acquisition that improves the parent.
Any word on Logan Seargent? Is he looking for a ride in IndyCar?
It's disappointing that Grosjean isn't going to run indycar next year. It's so weird he got close to winning with coyne and then went to andretti and was disappointing then juncos. Romain is talented, but maybe sportscars are more his fortay.
Romaine Lettuce cant drive worth a shit. You must enjoy fiery first lap crashes that happen for no known reason. I prefer good clean racing and not hitting the wall. Im old, I guess young people just go to watch the crashes.
*forte
@davidgray1515 ratio
@@davidgray1515 correct. Grosjean has been a waste since he stepped into Piquet Jr's Renault seat in 2009. He's never improved. It's amazing to me that so many people thought there was an upside to that guy.
The talent is certainly there - the consistency though...
Like to see the celebrity race return at Long Beach, but get A list celebrities who know and love auto racing, not a bunch of random so called celebrities.
Yep it would be cool if John Cena hopped into an IndyCar and how about bring someone like Vin Diesel too.
Thanks David!
Have fun with your first F1 experience...you will never look at an IndyCar event the same way again.
it makes you appreciate IndyCar that much more
Btw. It's a little unfortunate that Indycar and especially F1 drivers aren't at the SKUSA supernats. It could go a long way in promoting the sport in the US and the race is only a week apart. 10-15 years ago Schumacher and Dan Weldon and Buddy Rice and others raced it.
A few pro drivers have recently.
Will Power and Oliver Askew raced in X30 Pro and Pro Shifter at SuperNats two years ago.
Bruno Spengler raced this year in KA100 Masters and finished P7.
I suspect the Vegas GP wont be with us in a few years. Pissing off the locals will not work when they are also not making enough money to justify shutting down the strip for weeks. Be glad you got there now
It should swap with Miami each year.
What you say is true. But it’s my understanding that Liberty Media is the promoter and owner of the Las Vegas GP. Liberty Media owns F1 itself. If the owner of the series owns a specific Grand Prix, that Grand Prix probably isn’t going anywhere.
Well I could be wrong but I think Liberty media/formula 1 actually owns the race deal and it's a 10-year deal at a minimum so...
yo my man...ive lived and traveled for 16 months (seen many races over that time also, happily) full-time in a coach...im now heading west for the next year-ish, and just made it to el paso. im dying in the nasal passages! thanks for the vids. would love to meet if you attend thermal; ill be in the cusick crew! edit: 2nd juncos charter to prema!
Given Gavin Ward's departure at McLaren, I'd be shocked if Michael Cannon wasn't moving to Arrow McLaren at this point.
If you see Darian, be sure to say hi. A lot of people are curious about his whereabouts & some are getting worried somethings happened.
ruclips.net/video/vfqKZ31Ijr0/видео.htmlsi=A9tB2cw3JDC9K8Tc
Darian is one of Stark Raving Sports voice over’s. This video was uploaded yesterday. He’s seemingly doing fine, just seemingly stepped back from his channel.
Reading straight from Wikipedia is a hard job
@@ic3man Cool to know. Thanks for that info.
This is a racing broadcaster.
We are going to Las Vegas!
Welcome to my beautiful city. 🙂
would be great if penske bought a couple of super speedways
I heard there's one in Michigan that's pretty cool?
@@psychlops924he owned it once. He got out of that game
He'd only buy them to shut them down, as he's done with every other super speedway that's threatened Indy; whether that was the motivation or not it was the end result. And that was even before he owned Indy and was motivated to as such.
Indycar needs to get back to Texas!
Penske owns LB?...Like how he owned MIS, Nazareth, Fontana, and Homestead? Or like he currently owns IMS?
Hope you're OK. So you passed out in the desert? 🏜
if indy car fails penske can sell long beach for a profit to nascar. detroit is a mickey mouse sort of track that nobody attends. so that is a big demerit. David bring a giant lunch box to the f1 race unless you want to pay 1000 dollars for a ham sandwich.
A reckon jerry forsythe likely had some clause preventing that when penske bought the lbgp ownership
Penske Entertainment has a strong history of investing in IndyCar.
Grosjean is my favourite driver he is the last driver that delivered points for Dayle Coyne anyone else has disappointed
andretti should hire cannon and ward. maybe they could be good at the 500 again.
i never had issues with the desert puusay. lol. 😂
If Conor Daly doesn't get that seat, I swear to God I will never buy another t shirt or poly jersey from the trackside merchandise store!
While I’m against people owning series, also owing the tracks and some of the teams I am extremely happy that Penske still invest into Indycar and keeps everything rolling
kart races are multitudes better than any of the big series. (IRL, Nascar, F1)
Lol...I know hungover when I see it
I like it
Hey David! A bit of constructive criticism. Learn to get to the point quicker. People only have so much time 🤷♂️
It's a 13 minute vid mate. Trust me, you're not busy enough that you don't have 13 minutes.
@tajjohal2841 not going to lie, I skipped straight to the comments. Most of his videos are over 13min and I got other videos to watch.
@@tajjohal2841 Actually I am that busy “mate” 🖕🏻
Oh. And no. The last lap was HORRIBLE!!! Should never come to that. He had no chance to get by. There is a LOT of talk behind the scenes about the situation. Pissed off a LOT of people
great video david, glad to hear youre getting some opportunities to show your skill as an on track reporter. this is tangentially related but what did you think of the article RACER did pushing back on grosjeans criticisms?
Should we pencil in a win for Newgarden at Long Beach?
I swear, is the NHL running your channel, I keep getting Geico ads that I can't skip to start these videos of yours.
I live in Mi. too
Like your videos, but less uh's and um's would help
hard to believe you would be allowed anywhere near a F1 race, maybe you will get appointed to pick out danicas outfits, you two would make a great match.
Thanks for your click
He's going as a fan not for RUclips content.
I can see the positives in terms of Penske owning the Long Beach GP, especially stopping NASCAR & F1 from stealing it... But the pessimist in me says let's see how this plays out in a few years to see if it *is* a positive.
Sorry that you will have to suffer through the LV GP for your first F1 race. Who the hell wants to see a race at 1am? Come to Austin and see a proper GP.
Indy car needs Hailee Deegan
That’s mean
Can’t dispute her online presence and number of followers. She’ll help NXT on FOX for sure.
Why? Take away a seat that should go to a much quicker driver? Indycar isn't a learner series. She would have finished a half lap behind the Pro Shifter class this weekend (no, I'm not joking).
Really old, Minardi??? Come on man....
who cares....
Just put a fork in Indy Car. Outside of Indy it's dead, and even Indy is not Indy anymore. Watching the same spec cars year after year brings nothing to the table worth watching. With only one 500 mile race there is no triple crown and no hope of one. Michigan just sits and there are a couple of other tracks perfect for 2 more 500 mile super speedway races, but no one in power cares about the past history when Indy Car's were king. Just about as boring as it gets. NASCAR is dead too, so Indy Car is not alone. Put a fork in em. They are well done
Thought he was dead. Oh well
Are these guys not embarrassed that they are playing dress-up? They are very publicly not qualified to be there and clearly being upcharged like a private school kid buying weed. I couldn't live with myself if I was doing that.
F1... snore.
Put a FORK in racing in SoCal. Thanks Penske and Nascar and NHRA
30 seconds, no views
The fall off is real
Show images and/or video about various subjects. We don't need to see you talking.
David you gotta stop rambling
Another too wordy report. The bane of DL.
Your babbling again David!
i stopped half way this is so boring
David… use some sunscreen!