@@someoneunseen5168given that over the last 4 seasons Max has only had 1 incident with a non Merc car (Lando in Austria) yet has this reputation of being crash happy, I fo start to wonder whether the same stigma was given to Schumacher and actually he wasn't as bad as some make it out to be.
Yes he is. Him and Max are one of the same. Love it when younger Max called him out for being a hater years ago in that post race interview yet know Eddie is one of the biggest if not biggest non RBR supporter of his. I think he really appreciates what Max brings to the sport
I really love the way how both DC and Eddie always give their honest opinion. No hidden agenda, no politics, no hate to anyone, but just speaking their minds. And doing that in an interesting way with humor. Best F1 related channel imo 👍
You point is simple,as long they speak positive about Max,you "love how both give honest opinion"...but when someone tells they are CONSTANTLY backing Verstappen,..."ooohhh,u maste be hater"!!Anyone with a no positive point on Max,is a hater.Simple....!
Compared to 2016, Lando has a way better car that Verstappen had in 2016. Therefore, his third place back than was a way better achievement than the sixth place Lando did last week. I don't think the age difference was that important compared then with now.
Watching the pass that Max made at Turn 3 very early in the race woke me up immediately, the rest of the race was a continuous repetition of WOW!! This race absolutely cements Max as one of the very greatest - ever.............
he is the greatest, raw speed and skills he is number one. Its hard to measure tho, people look at titles etc. I look at other drivers quotes, data, footage, he is by far the best in the world and the best all time.
I think Max also knew that if HE did anything like what what Norris did at the restart after the first red flag that Johnny Herbert would have treated him very differently and would have given him a heavy time penalty. This was Max showing Johnny Herbert: you can try all you want to help and favour Norris and to penalise me more and harder than any other driver .... in the end I will outrace not only Norris and McLaren but also YOU. On track were F1 belongs. Not sitting behind a desk like you.
absolutely. they tried giving him so much shit over the smallest thing (while lando gets away with a very blatant violation of regulations) and yet he was simply unstoppable. a big “fuck you” performance from max to the british media and biased steward!
I am still speechless that Merc got away with a violation of a technical directive with a slap on the wrist. And a break of the rules with the abandoned start. It seems only Max can collect race penalties, everyone else gets a get-out-of-jail-free card. You know what, it wasn't rain in the race, it was Johnny Herbert's and the stewards' tears.
Oh you’re not wrong there. These largely biased British stewards Derek Warwick I think is the other Brit steward. They both do their damndest to try to prevent Max winning his 4th title and/or to keep the title battle going till the last race! Think Max will probably take the title after in Qatar unless Lando gets a DNF in Las Vegas.
The FIA conceded that they'd fucked up the restart procedure, not letting all mechanics onto the grid for the full time allowed. That's why Merc got to do the tyre pressures (to legal standards) without taking them off the cars.
@@azapro911 Ooohhhh right. It was an "honest mistake", yes? LIke when they underfueled their car... Get out! And the FIA didn't screw up anything, the procedure for an abandoned start is clear. And some drivers knew the rules. Ignorance of rules is not an excuse! But of course, since British drivers would have got a penalty, they simply ignored it. And no, a 5k fine is not a penalty in F1.
@@Arsenic71Allowing mechanics to get to their cars in time is also clear. The FIA didn't do that and 'fessed up to the stewards, who put it in their report. But hey, perhaps you're right, I mean the FIA have done really helpful things for Mercedes like make up new rules to steal championships from them...
My mate had so much hate for Redbull and Max it's unhealthy. We argued on the Saturday about him being a wet weather rain master.. I fully promoted Max to be shut down time and time again.. Oh how I gloated on the Sunday. He even threatened to block me. Haha Thanks for that Max. 🧡
@k3corvette35 nah.. He was a Redbull fan until that last lap.. He loves racing. We both cheer for everyone. But he's found a viserol hatred the last few years. He fully boycotted last season entirely. I'm nearly 50 so grew up with Senna and the rest. Followed Max since he drove CRG karts as a boy. Obvious back then he was a generational driver. I've mates in Silverstone working for Aston and I know a guy who works at Brackly and I lived a few miles down the road from Brixworth. Drove the Petronas Merc truck that our logistics company owned. WCC is the real comp.. WDC is for the public entertain and or argument. Then Gasly and Ocon on the podium was super special. Great race.
He's worse when actually pissed off, i remember Spain 2022 and Hungary 2024. But when he feels the car is in the right place and he has the pressure (especially when hunting others down) he is at his very best.
@@TheMissiIe How convenient. The car that was quickest with an alleged illegal rear brake balance that suddenly lost that advantage for 9 races is suddenly the "best" again. Almost like the alleged illegal rear brake mechanism was back.... "almost".... Ah yes, that'll be Red Bull. Who has been taken in by this sudden "improvement" to the car and driver? Not me.
@brmh1667 everything you said can be dismissed by a few sentences. The break system RB used was NOT illegal (you idiots never seem to get that part). It created an "unfair advantage" by exploiting a loophole, just like McLaren's flex wing. Then FIA said that break system can no longer be used, then RB changed to a different system... but facts aren't important to you I guess. I love how you think the old break system is back because RB are fast again... well it's just Max, Checo is still a bottom 3 driver.. what does that say about your claim that the car is fast? Can't you imbeciles admit that Max is 10x the driver of anyone else on the grid?
This brazilian gp was best race I've ever seen. After watching the actual race, the post race shows and interviews, the highlights, the more technical analysis and all that, I still can't get over it. Just wow
Watched the race twice, back to back. Never done that before. Once with f1tv commentary and once with sky. Might watch it once more with the Dutch commentary ;)
Lawson is already showing racecraft well beyond his time in F1. His qualifying is brilliant, his starts have been second to none, clean passing all while being kind on rubber. He is the real deal. The British press should be talking more about this kid.
This is so refreshing. I absolutely loved this conversation between Eddie and DC. No polite nonsense and British favoritism, just calling a spade a spade. More of this, please! 👍
Max is simply an extraordinary talent. I’m from Indianapolis and have been going to the Indy 500 for decades. Seen all the greats including Jimmy Clark win in 65. Andretti, Foyt, Gurney, Mansell , Unser, etc. Max is among the greats!
Finally someone speaking the truth about Lando. He will never, ever get there unless he does what Eddie says. And if Lando doesn't get some hard truth from a mentor or whoever, Piastri will eat Lando for breakfast next year. Not to mention other drivers.
I have to agree with Eddie. Being fast and winning some races is completely different to being a world champion. How can you claim, after his massive fumble at Brazil, that Lando is the real deal? Being 'WDC material' is always relative to the best driver on the grid, and Lando is not even close to Max' level.
Max showing his rain masterclass once again. 2 times this year Lando fumbled in wet conditions, China and Brazil. Should have seen Damon Hill, it felt like his soul died that day.
@@golanheights9000 No he should have, over and over. Jos the iron fist father of Max forced him to drive around his kart everytime is was raining! When Max complained that his fingers turned blue he told him to heat them up with the engine cover. And then did i mention karts back then had no rain tyre and Max was 8 starting racing in karts? People think it's Max having talent in the rain... well yes but there is way more behind it. Yes offcourse i don't agree with those iron hand methods but you can't deny it more often then not gives results. Some fathers find that more important then discomfort on their kids.
Canada and Silverstone too. His Inexperience and lack of confidence in making decisions was quite visible there. He relied on his team to the job which was in reality his to do.
Damon had the fastest car 4 times and won 1 title. He just has a natural hate for people like Max and Michael who always win the title when they have the fastest car, and even manage to win titles without the fastest car.
He didn't need to do that, did he? Eddie's homage says all. Why chew around on the comments of his closest contender, mind you moments after the race, realised that his dream of a World Championship won't come true in 2024...
@@basbastiaans5396 come on you can't justify him saying that just because he said it moments after the race and in that state. These guys have been giving media interviews since they were kids, they do know how to respond to situations like this. I feel that was just Lando being petty, just like him after Hungary when he said "I won't be friends with Max if he doesn't apologize" - like what are you a kid?
It's good to see two British men who are experts in formula one. giving Max his due .and not like the British media who scrapped away and Lando with his petty lip
I'm Dutch and while I wouldn't neccesary consider myself a hardcore Verstappen fan, I obviously am happy with how things are unfolding now in the end. Apart from this, Max has been showing what it takes to win the championship all season, even when he didn't always have the car to win. But I think we also should cut Lando some slack. Let's be real: for quite a few years he has been one of the big talents in the sport, but never quite competed consistently at that top level (nor did he have the car to do so). And still entered the season as Lando NoWins, and can you truly fight for a title if you're still fighting for your first win? But then suddenly everything changes, suddenly he is seen as the top favorite and basically HAS to win. And as much as there's the British bias against Max, that also creates a lot of pressure on him, they will be absolutely savage if he doesn't deliver. It all requires a certain mindset he never needed to have yet. I think he'll learn a lot from this, and will start the next season as a very different man. No longer going into the season happy go lucky just to get some nice results and maybe finally get that elusive win, but now with one clear goal: Be the best of all, whatever it takes. Fight fire with fire. Next season is gonna be epic!
I think he may have a hard time battling Piastri. That young man is no slouch either and he will definitely not want to be relegated to the status of a number two driver.
@@mariodriessen9740 true, and that dynamic is also part of why I expect next season to be so great. And let's be real: If he truly wants to go for the title , Oscar is the first one he has to beat. That said, I do think Lando is a step further in his carreer, and while Oscar has shown great promise over and over again, he also has to learn to be more consistent and maximize results. Max isn't so much gonna be champion for that half of the season he might have had the fastest car. He'll be champion because he got everything he could out of the half when the car was failing him. That's a lesson anyone who wants to take him on has to learn.
I think this is the most balanced comment I've ever read and it echoes the same thoughts I had. People are quick to rain down criticism when he doesn't perform even if he has the car to do so. It's a clear sign that he has a lot of learning to do and a complete shift in mentality to be able to go toe to toe with Max and give him a proper challenge. Not to mention the fact that he has one hell of a teammate in the battle as well.
Next year his biggest competitor will be Piastri, who also took his first wins and learned that if he vvdoesn’t beat Lando in the first few races he will be number 2 again
It’s doesn’t make the cars entirely equal: if you’ve got a high downforce wet weather setup, you’re going to be quicker than someone who gambled on a dry or intermediate setup.
@@davidecolelli8275 Ferrari will be fighting itself. Although.. I have to say they made some better calls lately, if they keep this up... you might be right!
Excatly! I think Norris nor McLaren don't understand how big of deal this is.. This could've been THE ONLY shot Norris will ever have to win a championship! 18+ races with a faster car than Verstappen.. And he completely fumbled it. I've some Massa (2008) and Webber (2010) vibes.. If your not a top 3-5 driver; those changes are VERY VERY rare
in actuality, it should be a 10 stop and go penalty. But since they kept prolonging it after the race, it should be a grid penalty, instead of a measly fine. To makes matter worst, they focused on that "this will not set a precedent", So, it is special treatment for lando and russell.
Max was forced to step in his kart everytime it rained by Jos! When Max complained about his fingers turning blue Jos said there is an engine cover heat them up on it. Stop complaining and drive! Max was 7 and rain tyre's on karts wasn't a thing. That's how you lay down the basis of driving in the rain, talent and experience will give you a chance to master it. By the time he was 8 and started to race in karts in 2006 well let's say it like this don't take my word check out the wiki but he won all 21 races in the belgium mini class he attended.. In 2007 all 17 mini class races in belgium and all 4 races in the Dutch mini class he attended. It's really no accident he was the youngest ever to enter f1.
@@randar1969 yes, there are different compounds, already in the 90ies for 100CC and 125 CC. Not really a free choice of tires as that's mostly all regulated per series. But you definitely do have rain tires, no doubt. You simply can't race on slicks in wet weather conditions, only skid and skate. Source: raced on wets and _attempted_ to do so on slicks in damp conditions.
Eddie is right, and another thing if Lando wants to be a world champion he should start learning now to drive in wet weather conditions because it is important if you are fighting for the Championship. At the moment Max is the best in this category but aside from him there are also some drivers in the grid that’s good in wet weather. Lando should learn the technical aspects in wets. Another thing he should change his attitude towards his peers when driving brilliantly and not to comment ridiculous comment that damage his reputation and learn how to accept defeats with no excuses.
This is by far the best F1 podcast available nowadays to listen to. The knowledge gained by watching this show is second to none and all the videos are entertaining and informative. It’s a pleasure watching you two legends shoot the breeze.
Coulthard is a die hard Red Bull man and still supports Landos career, Eddie is tough as nails but fair as a critic. These two combined I could listen to for hours!!
The one who got lucky was Lando Norris. Verstappen got screwed by a late red flag during Q2: P12. And also got an engine penalty of 5 places: P17. Well Lando didn't get screwed during qualifying or got and engine penalty did he? It ended up with Lando starting from P1 and Max starting from P17 during a crucial time in the championship battle. So who was the lucky one?
@@sirskullington9213no. Because max SPECIFICALLY wanted to stay out and his tires were fine. He was putting SECONDS on Lando. Lando wanted to pit earlier than he did. He was going to lose no matter what. It’s a rain race. Only morons assume no safety car.
@@sirskullington9213 No it's not. And you know why? Because they not role the dices about the pit stop or not. It was their decision and you know why? Because Max know how to drive in the rain condition and that give them an advantage in that conditions. It's simple as that.
@@sirskullington9213 the free pitstop is free for everyone, Landoofus wanted to pit as soon as lap 24, while George knew the conditions were red flag worthy but had to box to cover Landoofus. The others had the talent to not crash in the worst conditions.
@@mavadelo Ja had ik ook kunnen zeggen enkel me engels is niet zo best meer, had niet echt zin in een ultra lang antwoord, ging me meer om te zeggen dat ik al heel wat jaartjes kijk, toen bestond er nog geen red bull en zat Jos nog in de Benetton naast schumacher!
Max absolutely was world class. He is very smart and obviously talented. What car control. The two Alpine boys did a great job as well. Best ever? Probably. Eddie was in Suzuka in 1994 when Damon Hill had a pretty amazing drive to beat Schumacher in the rain. Suzuka and Interlagos are two very tricky tracks. Mansell finished 3rd in 1994 in his best final drive in F1 with an incredible duel with Jean Alesi in the Ferrari..
Max winning this years title is his MAGNUM OPUS. The RB20 was fastest in only 5 GPs (which in 4 he finished).. He's winning the championship in a car that ends 3rd in the constructors and was the fastest at only 17% of the tracks. Incredible! I don't think we've ever seen this. And we'll never ever will again.
Eddie is on to something here. Lando is self-critical in front of the microphone but not willing to change, keeps making the same mistakes. He thinks his style of driving is the best there is. He should indeed look back at the footage of Lewis, Max and other great champions.
Exactly. And he constantly says the team doesn’t make mistakes either!! He AND THE TEAM don’t SEE that they ARE making mistakes! And thus they will never learn from their mistakes….. They first need to truly acknowledge their mistakes!
Dear David because you are in the same bracket as Norris giving away wins etc you will never call him out for what Norris said about Max.Thank GOD Eddie tells the truth.
The very first f1 race I ever watched was Barachello's '99 win on dry tires in the wet, with rain on half of the track. It was an outstanding drive. Max's win felt like that. The rain could not slow Max down. He found grip where it shouldn't be. No one could match him. I'll remember this one for a long time.
People give Marko a lot of flack for his way of dealing with drivers (partially correct) but if you are doing things wrong, he will tell you. Which is exactly the thing Lando needs! How can he learn to be a champion if his team keeps making excuses and telling him he does nothing wrong? I'm not even sure his time will even come because this year might've been it. He had the best car for most of the races, his teammate was still finding his feet and ferrari/mercedes weren't that dangerous. From next year forward he will have Piastri knocking at the top and he'll want his piece of the action after giving up places this year, Ferrari is looking crazy fast and red bull is fixing it's problems.
It’s not what you say, but how you say! That’s Markos problem among other personality traits. He enjoys being a provocateur, whether his statements are true or not!
@@scottyskydog Would rather have someone in my corner that says the right thing rudely than one who says the wrong thing nicely. Lando needs some tough love, but instead McLaren is keen on baby-proofing the championship for him and it's costing Lando dearly
@@eduardhenny1I don’t agree with that. Lawson is made of the same stuff. No newcomer has ever impressed me more since Max’ arrival than Lawson. This is also why I would worry putting him in because he will go at Max’ throat. If the team manage him well they have the next WDC in hands though. If they do next season will be epic. With the 3 big teams having inter team battles
Funniest part of the racing weekend for me is the shot of Max courageously diving on the inside and in the background Carlando is veering off the track like a Audi at a trackday
CAMON Eddie false starts, changing tyre pressures Mercedes... They did everything wrong but guess what no one got penalise. Because the name of the driver was not MAX
Great show, I was cheering on you when you were on F1 Dave, a fan here, being following F1 for 39 years now. That weekend in Brazil was nerve breaking, I thought that it was going to be until Abu Dhabi, but with that "W" he can bag this God willing much earlier.
DC! So glad to hear you’ll be back in the booth. Alex and Hinch were excellent but my dream team is you, Alex and Jolyon, with Sam, Hinch and Ruth trackside. It’s the perfect blend of technical and behind the scenes knowledge and absolute SAVAGE commentary. Love you guys!
Thanks guys I really enjoyed this. glad I found the channel. Ive been watching formula 1 for about 30 years because my parents started watching when I was a little kid and Jos Verstappen got into f1 and never quit.
Lando needs to grow up and he will come back a better driver. Max needed to grow up then he met Kelly Piquet, having a child to care for and being part of the Piquet family has made a huge difference. He said as much. They are a very close and supportive family nice to see Nelson Snr, Nelson Jnr and co there on Sunday for him. I think Lando has lost self belief and the way the British Media built him up demonised Max, it is Piquet/Mansell again and whereas Nelson had created a not bothered about the media persona, Nigel and Lando much more sensitive drivers. Unfortunately Nelson’s way of coping then has made the newer generation think he is a horrible person and that has rubbed off on Max through association. Just look up the story of Nelson, Frank Williams and the adapted phone after his accident. That is Nelson. Fan since 1979, a headline about him ‘ flying in the face of adversity’ during 1983 he never lost the belief he would beat Prost that year. I would love to hear what Nelson and Max talk about!! I like Lawson, Lewis attitude has been disappointing this year, and to hear him saying he can’t wait to leave the team that gave him six World Championships and gave him the use of Valteri Bottas as a wingman, causing him mental anguish according to Valteri. Seb has always had a passion for Ayrton, Michael was a paradox, he was in awe of Ayrton but was not adverse to cheating against him with the Benetton in 1994 applying a lot of pressure for that final race. Lewis has just marketed it better for his own self promotion, sorry to say it. He has the McLaren connection, he is good at celebrity he latched onto the Senna family, after Adrianne treatment at his funeral, their judgement has allowed them to be exploited. As a Senna fan I think Serbs tribute at Imola was the ultimate. Would have liked to have seen Bruno, Ruhbino or even Emerson Fittipaldi drive it. It was not a time for Lewis to be ego boosting it was about the legacy of a man who changed my life, I recycle to raise funds for three projects in Africa. I have taught my adopted son in Kenya about Ayrton, I screenshot the races and we watch them together that way. He is a Russell and Sainz fan! Seb is a man of action behind the scenes, Lewis likes the publicity and adoration. You guys knew Ayrton, I was a SUPER FAN I made sure I met him but I was as shy as he was! In those days you didn’t live through a camera lens and always had your mum nagging about cost of photo development. My brother took one picture of me next to him, patiently waiting for him to sign my autograph book! I am basically looking at my brother with the expression ‘oh my goodness Ayrton Senna! This was before I topped that by writing a book of One hundred poems and dispatching to team Lotus. Next thing we knew ( friend had better bigger writing) it was featured in the Lotus magazine and we found out they had given it to him personally. They said about getting a photo signed when he came back from winter break for the 1987 season. Out the blue a letter came addressed by him on the envelope. Nearly having a conniption fit at that point, there was a written notecard and two signed photos with lots of love to us both!, Ayrton was a man of words but very much a man of actions behind the scenes. 🇧🇷💕🇧🇷💕 Eddie and David loving this channel your interview with Gerhard had me laughing and crying, I don’t always agree with everything but that’s what it is about. Curious to know if Eddie watched Bernie’s Netflix documentary and whether that was really how Michael’s move to Benetton went down. Having Bernie on here would be amazing with fans questions. Would love to ask a few! I wanted to be a racing journalist but as a girl growing up in the 80s was not possible I did get some articles published. I did subscribe to the Brabham satirical mag Cobra, would love to know Bernie’s thoughts on some of the topics in there. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Collectors items at least £20 a copy!!!
Eddie is right about Lando! I think, like Nico Rosberg, he should use the winter break to get a champion mentality! And as an extra learn to know when to shut up. It's okay for him to get frustrated, but stupid reactions then are no excuse. That is not being appreciated. If he has trouble expressing himself, then media training is a must for him.
It's very difficult to describe the talent that Max has if you've never raced an automobile on a track against other drivers. The feeling of control over a race car at high speed is one of the most exhilarating and frightening feelings one can experience. The number of times a driver can lose control on a single lap is beyond comprehension, and yet Max can repeat identical laps over and over again, in all conditions. It's beyond "talent". It's a gift that cannot be developed by practice. You either have it, or you don't. Max has it.
as a fellow fan, i concur that we NEED to see John Watson on the show! and get Heinz-Harald Frentzen on another day while you're at it, i'm sure him and EJ might have some unfinished business with each other...😅
Ty David and Eddie, you are the two most honest Englishman who judge this sport on the sport and not the person. Dear David and Eddie, I go a long way back in F1 in my life, seeing david stepping in at Williams as a full race driver after that sad weekend in Imola, and Eddie seeing him rise as a team manager for JordanGP. For me, the Jordan 191 was one of the most beautiful F1 cars of the 90's, and you maiden win at Spa in 1998 was an emotional roller coaster to watch. That remind me, David, your shunt on the first lap triggered that mayhem wich Eddie took that great result. Great to see your guys still going strong 👍👍
The whole trick of F1 is that when you have a chance you take it and when you don't have a chance you create it. There are not many capable of this, or maybe better said, hungry enough to be absolutely ruthless on the decisive moments.
Here here for EJ singling out Lawson for a special mention! Lawson was never touted as the 'second coming' in the same way that other potential rookies were (Antonelli etc.) BUT he has absolutely rocked it and shown he is not only fast but is super-composed and confident (actually reminds me of Piastri in a way - who most teams would sign in an instant). I agree Lawson should be in the Red Bull ASAP!!!! This year preferably so he can acclimatize before start of next season. It would be a travesty if he's not on the grid next year.
Yep .. totally agree. Money and politics have a massive bearing on F1 and it has never been a meritocracy despite the noise saying so. Lawson is genuine, but amazingly he still doesn’t have a seat for next year. Screwed by Marko when de Vries was parachuted in, then screwed by Horner for Danny Ric. Best of luck Liam ..
Eddie is just being truthful. The rest of the world can see that Lando has the minerals but he is still has a lot to learn. Dropping the ball SO MANY TIMES on the start...
@@jaja8022 "clearly quicker" I do not think so, even with mclaren favouring lando, oscar beat him in sprint quali and was ordered to let him through in the sprint. On top of that, I do not think the pace gap is actually super clear, and you have to consider how mclaren screwed over oscar early in the season more than they did lando.
@@tuna5618 norris has some good racepace and is more consistent. Piastri has some good moments and the next race he is nowhere. Piastris strength is qualifying and Norrks beats him 18-3 there
@@tuna5618 I've to agree with him.. Piastri (at least this season so far) has a lot of Carlos Sainz in him.. 1 amazing race, 1 good race and 3 races mehhh, 1 amazing race, 3 mehhh.. After Baku I thought; he's figured it out.. Singapore he was oookaayy.. Followed by 3 complete dogshit performances.. To beat Norris in a championship fight: he has to have a better quali record vs him than 17-4. That's just bad! And may I remind you, this is vs. Norris.. Not Verstappen.
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I love that Max drives the British press crazy.
I think it is the other way around !
@@HROM1908 Hahaha! Yeah, you wish! Nobody drives Max crazy. NOBODY!
The same happened to schumacher in the 90s, but this was at the dawn of the internet and before social media.
@@someoneunseen5168given that over the last 4 seasons Max has only had 1 incident with a non Merc car (Lando in Austria) yet has this reputation of being crash happy, I fo start to wonder whether the same stigma was given to Schumacher and actually he wasn't as bad as some make it out to be.
@@riancastermans1607 his dad 😮😂
Eddie must be protected at all costs. Such a truth teller.
Yes he is. Him and Max are one of the same. Love it when younger Max called him out for being a hater years ago in that post race interview yet know Eddie is one of the biggest if not biggest non RBR supporter of his. I think he really appreciates what Max brings to the sport
Yay Eddie!!!!!!!!!
couldhart is pritty honest to abouth max but he is a ex redbull driver
Jordan honestly speaks his mind which is rare in Formula 1.
Yes 💯
I really love the way how both DC and Eddie always give their honest opinion. No hidden agenda, no politics, no hate to anyone, but just speaking their minds. And doing that in an interesting way with humor. Best F1 related channel imo 👍
Both up verstappens backside
@@harryheckels7232 You are probably hating on Max whatever he does? They tell it like it is based on what is shown.
Apart from DC is still on Red Bulls books. All respect to the man but you don't shit where you eat.
@ I disagree , coultard is a Redbull ambassador so obviously biased as expected
You point is simple,as long they speak positive about Max,you "love how both give honest opinion"...but when someone tells they are CONSTANTLY backing Verstappen,..."ooohhh,u maste be hater"!!Anyone with a no positive point on Max,is a hater.Simple....!
To be fair, Max did Brazil 2016 at a much earlier stage in his career than Lando's at now.
he was like 2 years younger than lando was on his f1 debut
@@tomcharlton586 but that was the end of his 2nd season, Lando is at the end of his 6th.
Lando is average, Max is way above average.
Max was 8 in 2006 when he started to race in the belgium mini class series (karts) there where 21 races.. Max won them all.
That was DC's point right? Max arrived in f1 a more or less finished product.
Compared to 2016, Lando has a way better car that Verstappen had in 2016.
Therefore, his third place back than was a way better achievement than the sixth place Lando did last week.
I don't think the age difference was that important compared then with now.
Watching the pass that Max made at Turn 3 very early in the race woke me up immediately, the rest of the race was a continuous repetition of WOW!! This race absolutely cements Max as one of the very greatest - ever.............
he is the greatest, raw speed and skills he is number one. Its hard to measure tho, people look at titles etc. I look at other drivers quotes, data, footage, he is by far the best in the world and the best all time.
It was almost a replay of his 2016 pass on Rosberg where the karting line had more grip.
Exactly, no ordinary driver does that in those conditions
He already was....
@@chompette_that was also a epic race, P16-P3 that already showed Max his awesome rain skills
Angry Max is a determined Max and is a glorious to watch Max
You could say ... Mad Max
YES perfectly described
Waiting for Las Vegas 🏆🥇🎉🍾
He practically spat his "simply lovely" at the end, it was beautiful!
Interlagos 2016 still tickles me because he wasn't WC then but passed a few WC's and it didn't bother him one bit
Remember it well 😂👍
It didn’t bother them either, they all loved it. Well maybe not Lewis.
And even Lewis admitted later that it was one fantastic drive back in 2016
I think Max also knew that if HE did anything like what what Norris did at the restart after the first red flag that Johnny Herbert would have treated him very differently and would have given him a heavy time penalty. This was Max showing Johnny Herbert: you can try all you want to help and favour Norris and to penalise me more and harder than any other driver .... in the end I will outrace not only Norris and McLaren but also YOU. On track were F1 belongs. Not sitting behind a desk like you.
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absolutely. they tried giving him so much shit over the smallest thing (while lando gets away with a very blatant violation of regulations) and yet he was simply unstoppable. a big “fuck you” performance from max to the british media and biased steward!
Bravo 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I am still speechless that Merc got away with a violation of a technical directive with a slap on the wrist. And a break of the rules with the abandoned start. It seems only Max can collect race penalties, everyone else gets a get-out-of-jail-free card. You know what, it wasn't rain in the race, it was Johnny Herbert's and the stewards' tears.
Oh you’re not wrong there. These largely biased British stewards Derek Warwick I think is the other Brit steward. They both do their damndest to try to prevent Max winning his 4th title and/or to keep the title battle going till the last race! Think Max will probably take the title after in Qatar unless Lando gets a DNF in Las Vegas.
The FIA conceded that they'd fucked up the restart procedure, not letting all mechanics onto the grid for the full time allowed. That's why Merc got to do the tyre pressures (to legal standards) without taking them off the cars.
@@azapro911why the rest of the grid didn’t have the same problem? You could see the McLaren without the wheels for them to adjust the tire pressure.
@@azapro911 Ooohhhh right. It was an "honest mistake", yes? LIke when they underfueled their car... Get out! And the FIA didn't screw up anything, the procedure for an abandoned start is clear. And some drivers knew the rules. Ignorance of rules is not an excuse! But of course, since British drivers would have got a penalty, they simply ignored it. And no, a 5k fine is not a penalty in F1.
@@Arsenic71Allowing mechanics to get to their cars in time is also clear. The FIA didn't do that and 'fessed up to the stewards, who put it in their report. But hey, perhaps you're right, I mean the FIA have done really helpful things for Mercedes like make up new rules to steal championships from them...
My mate had so much hate for Redbull and Max it's unhealthy.
We argued on the Saturday about him being a wet weather rain master.. I fully promoted Max to be shut down time and time again..
Oh how I gloated on the Sunday.
He even threatened to block me.
Haha Thanks for that Max. 🧡
He doesn’t sound like a mate. 😂
@mitchdaytonam3 He's one of my best.. But he has certain proclivities and way too much hateful vengeance. Love wins though.
Your buddy must be a Lewis/Merc fanboy ?!!?
@k3corvette35 nah.. He was a Redbull fan until that last lap.. He loves racing. We both cheer for everyone. But he's found a viserol hatred the last few years. He fully boycotted last season entirely. I'm nearly 50 so grew up with Senna and the rest. Followed Max since he drove CRG karts as a boy. Obvious back then he was a generational driver. I've mates in Silverstone working for Aston and I know a guy who works at Brackly and I lived a few miles down the road from Brixworth. Drove the Petronas Merc truck that our logistics company owned. WCC is the real comp.. WDC is for the public entertain and or argument. Then Gasly and Ocon on the podium was super special. Great race.
Not true f1 fan then when can't appreciate max
Max is actually better when he’s under pressure or pissed
Mad Max = best Max
He's worse when actually pissed off, i remember Spain 2022 and Hungary 2024.
But when he feels the car is in the right place and he has the pressure (especially when hunting others down) he is at his very best.
Jos would crash if he would get angry. Dutch people gave Jos stupid nicknames for it 😂
Lando was 💯 lucky Oscar gave up his position TWICE both in the sprint and in the race
Lando kindly gave up his position twice. Just not to his teammate
That is team work in action! Ferrari are renowned for it with Shuy/Jordan !
Tha's the role of number 2 drivers
Lando will never be world champion if he doesn’t study how Verstappen drive 😂😂😂😂
Granted oscar had to since he had a 10 second penalty in the race, might as well let Lando pass since its not for position.
Now cover Herbert being corrupt and not punishing Merc for the technical infringement as he's required to do in the regulations
How convenient... the only drivers who didn't get a penalty for very serious offences were... British
@@TheMissiIe How convenient. The car that was quickest with an alleged illegal rear brake balance that suddenly lost that advantage for 9 races is suddenly the "best" again. Almost like the alleged illegal rear brake mechanism was back.... "almost"....
Ah yes, that'll be Red Bull. Who has been taken in by this sudden "improvement" to the car and driver? Not me.
pah23 When you know what you are talking about your opinion will be worth hearing, perhaps.
@brmh1667 everything you said can be dismissed by a few sentences.
The break system RB used was NOT illegal (you idiots never seem to get that part). It created an "unfair advantage" by exploiting a loophole, just like McLaren's flex wing. Then FIA said that break system can no longer be used, then RB changed to a different system... but facts aren't important to you I guess.
I love how you think the old break system is back because RB are fast again... well it's just Max, Checo is still a bottom 3 driver.. what does that say about your claim that the car is fast? Can't you imbeciles admit that Max is 10x the driver of anyone else on the grid?
@@brmh1667 boohoo, brake mods = flex wings. Cry.
This brazilian gp was best race I've ever seen. After watching the actual race, the post race shows and interviews, the highlights, the more technical analysis and all that, I still can't get over it. Just wow
Watched the race twice, back to back. Never done that before. Once with f1tv commentary and once with sky. Might watch it once more with the Dutch commentary ;)
Yeah me too , I've been thinking about it the entire week
Not even top 10 , get off the hype train please
@@Root_boy
Don't do that.
Dutch commentary is beyond terrible. As a Dutchman i prefer Sky .... can you imagine.
So.... you've been warned. ;)
@@JScotland1996 Lando it's you?
Lawson is already showing racecraft well beyond his time in F1. His qualifying is brilliant, his starts have been second to none, clean passing all while being kind on rubber. He is the real deal.
The British press should be talking more about this kid.
This is so refreshing. I absolutely loved this conversation between Eddie and DC. No polite nonsense and British favoritism, just calling a spade a spade. More of this, please! 👍
Max is simply an extraordinary talent. I’m from Indianapolis and have been going to the Indy 500 for decades. Seen all the greats including Jimmy Clark win in 65. Andretti, Foyt, Gurney, Mansell , Unser, etc. Max is among the greats!
Notice how he didn't crash into anyone. He's good at avoiding incidents when he's playing catch-up.
huh a bit of the wrong greats...
@ Says the woman with very little knowledge of Motorsport.
@@wilburshaw9330 hahahahaha
What a privilege to see Clark drive in the flesh.
Eddie says that is the best drive he has ever seen is much, considering he had Senna and Prost in his team
Finally someone speaking the truth about Lando. He will never, ever get there unless he does what Eddie says. And if Lando doesn't get some hard truth from a mentor or whoever, Piastri will eat Lando for breakfast next year. Not to mention other drivers.
Amen
I bet Lando is working on it
Keep dreaming
i think piastri will a winner one day watch out for him.and i now think norris is just top midfield low top field driver russel is better i think
Eddie is not only one saying this now,Windsor is saying the same thing on his channel and Cameron’s channel too.
Max is the closest thing i've seen to Michael. I wish more than anything we could here Michael's opinion on today's drivers.
Michael has an opinion on Max, Jos knows...
Agree max is the new michael. Its undeniable
Agreed, F1 losing the influence and or feedback from Michael and Senna made F1 soft
Agreed. After Michael I believed we won't see another driver like him and Senna again but Max proved me wrong.
max is somthing special
You could say..he’s Super.
Maximus fastius rainius
I have to agree with Eddie. Being fast and winning some races is completely different to being a world champion. How can you claim, after his massive fumble at Brazil, that Lando is the real deal? Being 'WDC material' is always relative to the best driver on the grid, and Lando is not even close to Max' level.
I believe Lando is slightly less talented than Russell and Leclerc.
Max showing his rain masterclass once again. 2 times this year Lando fumbled in wet conditions, China and Brazil. Should have seen Damon Hill, it felt like his soul died that day.
Lando has an epic list of rain disasters. He shouldn't be out there in those conditions.
@@golanheights9000 No he should have, over and over. Jos the iron fist father of Max forced him to drive around his kart everytime is was raining! When Max complained that his fingers turned blue he told him to heat them up with the engine cover. And then did i mention karts back then had no rain tyre and Max was 8 starting racing in karts? People think it's Max having talent in the rain... well yes but there is way more behind it. Yes offcourse i don't agree with those iron hand methods but you can't deny it more often then not gives results. Some fathers find that more important then discomfort on their kids.
Canada and Silverstone too. His Inexperience and lack of confidence in making decisions was quite visible there. He relied on his team to the job which was in reality his to do.
David do you believe in fairy tales?
Damon had the fastest car 4 times and won 1 title. He just has a natural hate for people like Max and Michael who always win the title when they have the fastest car, and even manage to win titles without the fastest car.
DC mentions Lando's comment on 'luck' but conveniently leaves out the part about him saying 'it was not talent'.
OMG that agitated me so much. Like it's just plain arrogance of Lando at this point
And I don't know where it's coming from
Probably because he knew that Eddie would go ballistic
Lando is such a douche nozzle
He didn't need to do that, did he? Eddie's homage says all. Why chew around on the comments of his closest contender, mind you moments after the race, realised that his dream of a World Championship won't come true in 2024...
@@basbastiaans5396 come on you can't justify him saying that just because he said it moments after the race and in that state. These guys have been giving media interviews since they were kids, they do know how to respond to situations like this. I feel that was just Lando being petty, just like him after Hungary when he said "I won't be friends with Max if he doesn't apologize" - like what are you a kid?
It would have been another end of spectrum on Stewards decision if Max has ran on aborted start, immediate 10 second penalty
Nice to see someone in the sport finally take off the kid gloves with Lando.
Max was on another level than all the other drivers on the field. Makes you wonder what else he's still got in store for us. :D
It's good to see two British men who are experts in formula one. giving Max his due .and not like the British media who scrapped away and Lando with his petty lip
Agree with your general sentiment. But isn’t Eddie Irish and therefore not British?
@Adwnpinoy310 never had a look at his passport just assumed he was but never assume lesson learned
Eddie is Irish FFS. Not northern, The Republic of Ireland, i.e. south
@@crztank9298 sorry me old son I know you southern Irish are so friendly but don't tar and feather me for a wee mistake ok a big mistake 👍
@@crztank9298I’m from the north of Ireland and I’m Irish ☘️
I'm Dutch and while I wouldn't neccesary consider myself a hardcore Verstappen fan, I obviously am happy with how things are unfolding now in the end. Apart from this, Max has been showing what it takes to win the championship all season, even when he didn't always have the car to win. But I think we also should cut Lando some slack. Let's be real: for quite a few years he has been one of the big talents in the sport, but never quite competed consistently at that top level (nor did he have the car to do so). And still entered the season as Lando NoWins, and can you truly fight for a title if you're still fighting for your first win? But then suddenly everything changes, suddenly he is seen as the top favorite and basically HAS to win. And as much as there's the British bias against Max, that also creates a lot of pressure on him, they will be absolutely savage if he doesn't deliver. It all requires a certain mindset he never needed to have yet.
I think he'll learn a lot from this, and will start the next season as a very different man. No longer going into the season happy go lucky just to get some nice results and maybe finally get that elusive win, but now with one clear goal: Be the best of all, whatever it takes. Fight fire with fire. Next season is gonna be epic!
mand
I think he may have a hard time battling Piastri. That young man is no slouch either and he will definitely not want to be relegated to the status of a number two driver.
@@mariodriessen9740 true, and that dynamic is also part of why I expect next season to be so great. And let's be real: If he truly wants to go for the title , Oscar is the first one he has to beat. That said, I do think Lando is a step further in his carreer, and while Oscar has shown great promise over and over again, he also has to learn to be more consistent and maximize results. Max isn't so much gonna be champion for that half of the season he might have had the fastest car. He'll be champion because he got everything he could out of the half when the car was failing him. That's a lesson anyone who wants to take him on has to learn.
I think this is the most balanced comment I've ever read and it echoes the same thoughts I had. People are quick to rain down criticism when he doesn't perform even if he has the car to do so. It's a clear sign that he has a lot of learning to do and a complete shift in mentality to be able to go toe to toe with Max and give him a proper challenge. Not to mention the fact that he has one hell of a teammate in the battle as well.
Next year his biggest competitor will be Piastri, who also took his first wins and learned that if he vvdoesn’t beat Lando in the first few races he will be number 2 again
Rain makes all cars equal, but divides the drivers into bad, good and the best
What does that tell us about Ocon and Gasly?
It’s doesn’t make the cars entirely equal: if you’ve got a high downforce wet weather setup, you’re going to be quicker than someone who gambled on a dry or intermediate setup.
@@eleghari Think they are good i guess lol
@@eleghari Both good drivers
@@eleghariThat they are on the Senna's level.Don't forget the great G.Fisichella who won in simmilar conditions on the same track in 2003😉
Lando year was this year. Next years it will be Pastry fighting Max.
It will be Ferrari fighting Max
@@davidecolelli8275 Ferrari will be fighting itself. Although.. I have to say they made some better calls lately, if they keep this up... you might be right!
I think piastry is probably a worthy opponent for max than Lando
Excatly!
I think Norris nor McLaren don't understand how big of deal this is.. This could've been THE ONLY shot Norris will ever have to win a championship! 18+ races with a faster car than Verstappen.. And he completely fumbled it.
I've some Massa (2008) and Webber (2010) vibes.. If your not a top 3-5 driver; those changes are VERY VERY rare
He'd have to fix his qualifying for that. He'd actually worse now than he was in his rookie season which is questionnable
Bless Eddie, a legend himself.
Lando should have gotten 20sec penalty
What ever time penalty he should receive it had to be during the race. Afterwards you can tailor the penalty so it does not influence the race results
Or a grid penalty for the next race. Which is the norm. But not when JH is doing steward.
in actuality, it should be a 10 stop and go penalty. But since they kept prolonging it after the race, it should be a grid penalty, instead of a measly fine. To makes matter worst, they focused on that "this will not set a precedent", So, it is special treatment for lando and russell.
@@Kaimax61 absolutely should've set a precedent so they learn
He should started from the pit box.
Max was forced to step in his kart everytime it rained by Jos! When Max complained about his fingers turning blue Jos said there is an engine cover heat them up on it. Stop complaining and drive! Max was 7 and rain tyre's on karts wasn't a thing. That's how you lay down the basis of driving in the rain, talent and experience will give you a chance to master it. By the time he was 8 and started to race in karts in 2006 well let's say it like this don't take my word check out the wiki but he won all 21 races in the belgium mini class he attended.. In 2007 all 17 mini class races in belgium and all 4 races in the Dutch mini class he attended. It's really no accident he was the youngest ever to enter f1.
Send out in the rain on SLIKS
@@gorgonzola8084 'rain tyre's on karts wasn't a thing' so yeah slicks. You thought they have hard medium softs choices on karts in 2006?
@@randar1969 yes, there are different compounds, already in the 90ies for 100CC and 125 CC. Not really a free choice of tires as that's mostly all regulated per series. But you definitely do have rain tires, no doubt. You simply can't race on slicks in wet weather conditions, only skid and skate. Source: raced on wets and _attempted_ to do so on slicks in damp conditions.
What two great characters DC and Eddie are , it’s a pleasure to ear this two gentlemen talking about F1, tanks you for be with us
Eddie is right, and another thing if Lando wants to be a world champion he should start learning now to drive in wet weather conditions because it is important if you are fighting for the Championship. At the moment Max is the best in this category but aside from him there are also some drivers in the grid that’s good in wet weather. Lando should learn the technical aspects in wets. Another thing he should change his attitude towards his peers when driving brilliantly and not to comment ridiculous comment that damage his reputation and learn how to accept defeats with no excuses.
Rain driving is learned in go carts. Too late for Lando
The only thing Lando does worse than starting from pole is his performance in the wet.
He has a bright future ahead of him as a Sky F1 commentator.
...and treating a friend
Thanx David and Eddie for giving non biased reports. a fresh new talk show!!!!
This is by far the best F1 podcast available nowadays to listen to. The knowledge gained by watching this show is second to none and all the videos are entertaining and informative. It’s a pleasure watching you two legends shoot the breeze.
Coulthard is a die hard Red Bull man and still supports Landos career, Eddie is tough as nails but fair as a critic. These two combined I could listen to for hours!!
Thank you Eddie. I’m glad I’m not the only one. I was blown away by Max’s performance just like all his competitors.
The one who got lucky was Lando Norris. Verstappen got screwed by a late red flag during Q2: P12. And also got an engine penalty of 5 places: P17. Well Lando didn't get screwed during qualifying or got and engine penalty did he? It ended up with Lando starting from P1 and Max starting from P17 during a crucial time in the championship battle. So who was the lucky one?
A free pit stop isn’t lucky?
@@sirskullington9213no. Because max SPECIFICALLY wanted to stay out and his tires were fine. He was putting SECONDS on Lando. Lando wanted to pit earlier than he did. He was going to lose no matter what. It’s a rain race. Only morons assume no safety car.
@@sirskullington9213 No it's not. And you know why? Because they not role the dices about the pit stop or not. It was their decision and you know why? Because Max know how to drive in the rain condition and that give them an advantage in that conditions. It's simple as that.
@@sirskullington9213 the free pitstop is free for everyone, Landoofus wanted to pit as soon as lap 24, while George knew the conditions were red flag worthy but had to box to cover Landoofus. The others had the talent to not crash in the worst conditions.
@@bricksmoviestudio6234 yes it is. So there.
The Q red flag was absolute abuse against RB
Love how EJ says it like it is. no BS just brilliant knowledge and insight into f1.
I became an RBR fan because of DC, I remained an RBR fan because of Seb and Max.
im a Maclaren fan because of DC, ok im a Max fan but i'm dutch
@@jeroenverzijl8596 Ik ben fan van Max omdat hij goed is, niet omdat ik Nederlander ben ;)
@@mavadelo Ja had ik ook kunnen zeggen enkel me engels is niet zo best meer, had niet echt zin in een ultra lang antwoord, ging me meer om te zeggen dat ik al heel wat jaartjes kijk, toen bestond er nog geen red bull en zat Jos nog in de Benetton naast schumacher!
Toen was het nog Minaddi 🙏🏼
The genuine honesty of EJ is a welcoming trait in the world of F1 bullshit
As a Dutchman I must agree to Eddie. Lando has still a lot to learn to be a world champion. Now he only has a fast car.
If he ever will. It will be the car, not him. He has defeatist mentality hardwired in him. You can't fix that.
Max absolutely was world class. He is very smart and obviously talented. What car control. The two Alpine boys did a great job as well.
Best ever? Probably. Eddie was in Suzuka in 1994 when Damon Hill had a pretty amazing drive to beat Schumacher in the rain. Suzuka and Interlagos are two very tricky tracks. Mansell finished 3rd in 1994 in his best final drive in F1 with an incredible duel with Jean Alesi in the Ferrari..
Damon Who.....?
Piastri is going to smoke Lando next season.
Max winning this years title is his MAGNUM OPUS.
The RB20 was fastest in only 5 GPs (which in 4 he finished).. He's winning the championship in a car that ends 3rd in the constructors and was the fastest at only 17% of the tracks. Incredible!
I don't think we've ever seen this. And we'll never ever will again.
Max fan here, he drove a sensational race, but the alpine boys deserve a shout out, they also drove damn near flawless
Max did an Americas Cup Australia II race 🇦🇺.
He knew the rulebook better than those who wrote it.
So true
Please don't wish Max to become the second coming of Yunick. Otherwise, tables inside FIA HQ is going to flip.
Another brilliant race by Zhou, his consistency is unmatched!
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You win the comment game!
@@ExploringBeauty- It's a joke about how zhou has been consistently at the back.
It's fascinating how consistent heh has been at being last...and slow 🐌
Masterclaas
Agree with that statement, they best drive in wet in My view, Verstapen the greatest.
David and Eddie always put a smile on my face. I love all the podcasts!
Eddie is on to something here. Lando is self-critical in front of the microphone but not willing to change, keeps making the same mistakes. He thinks his style of driving is the best there is. He should indeed look back at the footage of Lewis, Max and other great champions.
Exactly. And he constantly says the team doesn’t make mistakes either!! He AND THE TEAM don’t SEE that they ARE making mistakes! And thus they will never learn from their mistakes…..
They first need to truly acknowledge their mistakes!
Dear David because you are in the same bracket as Norris giving away wins etc you will never call him out for what Norris said about Max.Thank GOD Eddie tells the truth.
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MAXterClass!
DC back om the track for the final 3 you better be in the comentry box for F1 too. Always love your additions next to Alex Jacques
Max was racing on like he was on slicks while everyone else was on inters
It looked more like Max was on inters and the rest was on slicks.
Next race he has a 5 place grid penalty for not having a blue plate with the white L on his car. He gave 'm all drivinglessons!!
Great show DC and EJ you guys rock 👌🏻
8:25 is the moment Eddie Jordan speaks facts about the 2024 F1 World Championship
The very first f1 race I ever watched was Barachello's '99 win on dry tires in the wet, with rain on half of the track. It was an outstanding drive.
Max's win felt like that. The rain could not slow Max down. He found grip where it shouldn't be. No one could match him. I'll remember this one for a long time.
People give Marko a lot of flack for his way of dealing with drivers (partially correct) but if you are doing things wrong, he will tell you. Which is exactly the thing Lando needs! How can he learn to be a champion if his team keeps making excuses and telling him he does nothing wrong? I'm not even sure his time will even come because this year might've been it. He had the best car for most of the races, his teammate was still finding his feet and ferrari/mercedes weren't that dangerous. From next year forward he will have Piastri knocking at the top and he'll want his piece of the action after giving up places this year, Ferrari is looking crazy fast and red bull is fixing it's problems.
but these people would act like these adult drivers are babies who can't handle marko's criticism.
It’s not what you say, but how you say! That’s Markos problem among other personality traits. He enjoys being a provocateur, whether his statements are true or not!
@@scottyskydog Would rather have someone in my corner that says the right thing rudely than one who says the wrong thing nicely. Lando needs some tough love, but instead McLaren is keen on baby-proofing the championship for him and it's costing Lando dearly
@@scottyskydog that's why I said the criticism is partially correct.
@@Kaimax61 he can learn some diplomacy and be a bit more tactful with his words and the words he uses. But yes, I agree
You guys are the absolute BEST !!!!!! Love your broadcasts !!!!!
Totally agree with you about Liam Lawson,, he should be Verstappens teammate,,,,,,,
He will get destroyed an his carreer broken to soon. Like Albon, Gasly, Perez, the lot
@@eduardhenny1And they'll blame max 👀👀
@@eduardhenny1I don’t agree with that. Lawson is made of the same stuff. No newcomer has ever impressed me more since Max’ arrival than Lawson. This is also why I would worry putting him in because he will go at Max’ throat. If the team manage him well they have the next WDC in hands though. If they do next season will be epic. With the 3 big teams having inter team battles
Hear hear!!!
@@eduardhenny1 Blud thinks he knows more than EJ
Funniest part of the racing weekend for me is the shot of Max courageously diving on the inside and in the background Carlando is veering off the track like a Audi at a trackday
Yes, that shot is THE SHOT of the season
CAMON Eddie false starts, changing tyre pressures Mercedes... They did everything wrong but guess what no one got penalise. Because the name of the driver was not MAX
I love listening to these guys. Please never stop this podcast DC and EJ
0:49 I’ve been eager to hear from him. Ever since the race ended I was thinking “wow can’t wait for EJ and DC to break this down.”
Great show, I was cheering on you when you were on F1 Dave, a fan here, being following F1 for 39 years now. That weekend in Brazil was nerve breaking, I thought that it was going to be until Abu Dhabi, but with that "W" he can bag this God willing much earlier.
Max vs Lando is Schumi vs DC just 20 odd years later
or benetton schumi vs damon hill
@tomcharlton586 hill became WC. DC and LN not
What a nice chat between both experienced F1 guys. Eddie is very direct and at the end it's only the truth
Best F1 banter out there!
Hey Eddie wishing you all the best! Keep on fighting, we as fans stand with you!
Eddie is totally right! Lawson is the guy!! He is the best option to replace Perez
DC! So glad to hear you’ll be back in the booth. Alex and Hinch were excellent but my dream team is you, Alex and Jolyon, with Sam, Hinch and Ruth trackside. It’s the perfect blend of technical and behind the scenes knowledge and absolute SAVAGE commentary. Love you guys!
Eddie! What a legend, we Dutch like people who speak their minds
Eddy Jordan has some great stories. 😄😄 Great podcast ! 👏👏
John would be a great guest for the show, lads.
Thanks guys I really enjoyed this. glad I found the channel. Ive been watching formula 1 for about 30 years because my parents started watching when I was a little kid and Jos Verstappen got into f1 and never quit.
Lando needs to grow up and he will come back a better driver. Max needed to grow up then he met Kelly Piquet, having a child to care for and being part of the Piquet family has made a huge difference. He said as much. They are a very close and supportive family nice to see Nelson Snr, Nelson Jnr and co there on Sunday for him.
I think Lando has lost self belief and the way the British Media built him up demonised Max, it is Piquet/Mansell again and whereas Nelson had created a not bothered about the media persona, Nigel and Lando much more sensitive drivers. Unfortunately Nelson’s way of coping then has made the newer generation think he is a horrible person and that has rubbed off on Max through association.
Just look up the story of Nelson, Frank Williams and the adapted phone after his accident. That is Nelson. Fan since 1979, a headline about him ‘ flying in the face of adversity’ during 1983 he never lost the belief he would beat Prost that year. I would love to hear what Nelson and Max talk about!!
I like Lawson, Lewis attitude has been disappointing this year, and to hear him saying he can’t wait to leave the team that gave him six World Championships and gave him the use of Valteri Bottas as a wingman, causing him mental anguish according to Valteri.
Seb has always had a passion for Ayrton, Michael was a paradox, he was in awe of Ayrton but was not adverse to cheating against him with the Benetton in 1994 applying a lot of pressure for that final race.
Lewis has just marketed it better for his own self promotion, sorry to say it. He has the McLaren connection, he is good at celebrity he latched onto the Senna family, after Adrianne treatment at his funeral, their judgement has allowed them to be exploited. As a Senna fan I think Serbs tribute at Imola was the ultimate. Would have liked to have seen Bruno, Ruhbino or even Emerson Fittipaldi drive it. It was not a time for Lewis to be ego boosting it was about the legacy of a man who changed my life, I recycle to raise funds for three projects in Africa. I have taught my adopted son in Kenya about Ayrton, I screenshot the races and we watch them together that way. He is a Russell and Sainz fan!
Seb is a man of action behind the scenes, Lewis likes the publicity and adoration. You guys knew Ayrton, I was a SUPER FAN I made sure I met him but I was as shy as he was! In those days you didn’t live through a camera lens and always had your mum nagging about cost of photo development. My brother took one picture of me next to him, patiently waiting for him to sign my autograph
book! I am basically looking at my brother with the expression ‘oh my goodness Ayrton Senna! This was before I topped that by writing a book of One hundred poems and dispatching to team Lotus.
Next thing we knew ( friend had better bigger writing) it was featured in the Lotus magazine and we found out they had given it to him personally.
They said about getting a photo signed when he came back from winter break for the 1987 season.
Out the blue a letter came addressed by him on the envelope. Nearly having a conniption fit at that point, there was a written notecard and two signed photos with lots of love to us both!,
Ayrton was a man of words but very much a man of actions behind the scenes. 🇧🇷💕🇧🇷💕
Eddie and David loving this channel your interview with Gerhard had me laughing and crying, I don’t always agree with everything but that’s what it is about. Curious to know if Eddie watched Bernie’s Netflix documentary and whether that was really how Michael’s move to Benetton went down. Having Bernie on here would be amazing with fans questions. Would love to ask a few!
I wanted to be a racing journalist but as a girl growing up in the 80s was not possible I did get some articles published. I did subscribe to the Brabham satirical mag Cobra, would love to know Bernie’s thoughts on some of the topics in there. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Collectors items at least £20 a copy!!!
Thank you for that ..very interesting..... and I tend to agree with everything you wrote.
Wow what a great podcast gentlemen , subscribed and liked ❣
What a lovely guy Eddie Jordan is.
Brilliantly done gentlemen
Eddie is right about Lando!
I think, like Nico Rosberg, he should use the winter break to get a champion mentality! And as an extra learn to know when to shut up. It's okay for him to get frustrated, but stupid reactions then are no excuse. That is not being appreciated. If he has trouble expressing himself, then media training is a must for him.
He could really learn through Nicos example. I think a lot of the "underdogs" should
Great episode gents. Thank you.
From 17 to 1 WITHOUT DRS!
We missed you here in Brazil, David! Hope to see you here next year!
It's very difficult to describe the talent that Max has if you've never raced an automobile on a track against other drivers. The feeling of control over a race car at high speed is one of the most exhilarating and frightening feelings one can experience. The number of times a driver can lose control on a single lap is beyond comprehension, and yet Max can repeat identical laps over and over again, in all conditions. It's beyond "talent". It's a gift that cannot be developed by practice. You either have it, or you don't. Max has it.
This podcast has excellent knowledgeable speakers and a great chemistry. Keep it up. This will grow fast.
as a fellow fan, i concur that we NEED to see John Watson on the show! and get Heinz-Harald Frentzen on another day while you're at it, i'm sure him and EJ might have some unfinished business with each other...😅
Asked Frentzen he said no not forgiven ej
@@Time4utubewhats the beef?
Ty David and Eddie, you are the two most honest Englishman who judge this sport on the sport and not the person.
Dear David and Eddie, I go a long way back in F1 in my life, seeing david stepping in at Williams as a full race driver after that sad weekend in Imola, and Eddie seeing him rise as a team manager for JordanGP.
For me, the Jordan 191 was one of the most beautiful F1 cars of the 90's, and you maiden win at Spa in 1998 was an emotional roller coaster to watch.
That remind me, David, your shunt on the first lap triggered that mayhem wich Eddie took that great result.
Great to see your guys still going strong 👍👍
Neither are English
@@donaldfarquar Scottish 🤐🤐 I embarrest myself here
Exactly if max jumped the restart he would have be crucified
The whole trick of F1 is that when you have a chance you take it and when you don't have a chance you create it. There are not many capable of this, or maybe better said, hungry enough to be absolutely ruthless on the decisive moments.
I don't agree with everything the great EJ says, but I can only agree with his take on this.
Here here for EJ singling out Lawson for a special mention! Lawson was never touted as the 'second coming' in the same way that other potential rookies were (Antonelli etc.) BUT he has absolutely rocked it and shown he is not only fast but is super-composed and confident (actually reminds me of Piastri in a way - who most teams would sign in an instant). I agree Lawson should be in the Red Bull ASAP!!!! This year preferably so he can acclimatize before start of next season. It would be a travesty if he's not on the grid next year.
Yep .. totally agree.
Money and politics have a massive bearing on F1 and it has never been a meritocracy despite the noise saying so.
Lawson is genuine, but amazingly he still doesn’t have a seat for next year.
Screwed by Marko when de Vries was parachuted in, then screwed by Horner for Danny Ric.
Best of luck Liam ..
Eddie is just being truthful. The rest of the world can see that Lando has the minerals but he is still has a lot to learn. Dropping the ball SO MANY TIMES on the start...
DC goes on to say that the only way Norris can win is with what? LUCK! HA!
Great channel two guys who really know what they’re talking about.
Piastri is better than norris... better mcalren focus just on constructers championship. let driver fight fairly
Lando is clearly quicker right now
@@jaja8022 "clearly quicker" I do not think so, even with mclaren favouring lando, oscar beat him in sprint quali and was ordered to let him through in the sprint. On top of that, I do not think the pace gap is actually super clear, and you have to consider how mclaren screwed over oscar early in the season more than they did lando.
@@tuna5618 norris has some good racepace and is more consistent. Piastri has some good moments and the next race he is nowhere. Piastris strength is qualifying and Norrks beats him 18-3 there
Norris is not top 5 driver in F1.
Only fools don't see that.
@@tuna5618 I've to agree with him.. Piastri (at least this season so far) has a lot of Carlos Sainz in him.. 1 amazing race, 1 good race and 3 races mehhh, 1 amazing race, 3 mehhh..
After Baku I thought; he's figured it out.. Singapore he was oookaayy.. Followed by 3 complete dogshit performances.. To beat Norris in a championship fight: he has to have a better quali record vs him than 17-4. That's just bad!
And may I remind you, this is vs. Norris.. Not Verstappen.
Eddie needs to be careful. The British press holds grudges. lol.
Be careful about pissing Max off. It just gets him focus.
The British press has been irrelevant to most people under 70 for a long time, and Max just highlighted it like Trump did with the American press.