I’m glad this movie was made. I was an 11B who ETS’d over a decade ago, so over time people sometimes lose contact with each other. But when the Taliban retook Afghanistan people were coming out of the woodwork to make sure our Terp made it out. It was crazy people reconnecting after so long with the willingness just to go back with zero support from our Government just to make sure our terp “Dave” and his family were ok. Luckily he made it out and is happily living here in the states.
Love to hear this sort of stuff brother, I’m still in, one of our soldiers doing maintenance on our Vic’s. Had family in Afghanistan too, I was making calls pushing emails moving things to the best of my abilities to help my boy get his family into the states after his brother and father inlaw helped our country with Terp work and medical in the small Embassy there in Kabul. I felt a breath of relief once I saw he got them here in the states.. Felt a sense of guilt with the way we got pulled out from the Stan.
Kurt is looking more like black Jesus. Someone needs to do a photoshop where you put Kurt's face on a Jesus portrait with him handing out the bread and the angel wings or something.
I liked that it was implied that Ahmed would work for John when he went to America by showing that he was a mechanic and him owning a vintage car repair shop.
Jake Gyllenhal has an aura about him, every closed up shot of his face conveys exactly what he wanted us to feel about the situation like no other actor I've seen. I mean he doesn't even need to try it's so natural.
This was an incredible film. The connection between the forces and interpreter is something never shown before. There are ALOT of people that helped that got forgotten.
@@ShahmaqsoodSarwariif that's true then thank u for ur service and sacrifice 🫡.... I hope the asshats in our Govt decide to actually keep their word and give yall the Visa's u deserve! Yall were an invaluable asset to keeping our soldiers safe and getting them home, so the least yall deserve is the opportunity to live a free life as well. Peace be with u until then ✌️
Good stuff boys. As the military consultant on this movie, there are explanations for all the consistencies. Some mandated and some due to creative direction. But appreciate the review 🙏🏽👊🏽
@@raidernation365 For one, some SF guys will wear them…specially officers. Two, it paints a picture of their world and three, not everyone who watches this movie is military and it gives context. Just some parts of being a consultant that won’t make sense to people who don’t consult: red tape, big shot directors and dept heads who can make your life easy or hard.
@@2AlphaTrainingGroup isaf was over in Afghan in 2014. But this movie supposed to be in 2018. Not hating. I was a contractor for socom from 2010 to 2016 in Afghan with many deployments before that, just stuff you notice is all. Not sure how context can account for inaccuracy.
@@raidernation365 You’ll notice a bunch of small discrepancies but it’s not for a lack of trying. Certain creative decisions trump my guidance as the mil consultant and I have to go with it. It’s Hollywood. Accuracy is only good if it looks good on camera.
Is that you Kawa? Only thing I noticed is the helmets always looked like they were straight out of the box and not scratched up or used in any way, most likely a hollywood logistics, set and equipment acquisition at the last second, just wanted to see more detail on them.
I was in the US Army Corps of Engineers working as a Hydroelectric mechanic supervisor. I volunteered for duty in Afghanistan. I was prior service so it wasnt a big deal. I was in charge of operations and maintenance at the ANA base, camp Sayer, and police stations in Farah Afghanistan. I had to go to these sites, talk to the officials, make inspections and submit reports to my supervisor in Kandahar. I had an interpreter Hamid uhllah that greatly assisted me. Later when I was back in the States, I learned of the troop pull out at Fob Farah. I knew my interpreter's life was in danger and the Taliban would certainly kill him for assisting the US Gov. I managed to get him and his immediate family a special Visa to the USA. He lives in Up state New York now with a job and is buying a house. He told his daughters the story of how he came to the US. His daughters sent me an email with a hand drawn picture of Superman with my name on it. They said I was their "Hero".
How did you get him the visa? I don't know who Gyllenhaal was calling but I was wondering why he didn't call his Congressional representative or tell his story to CNN or something instead of sitting on hold for 35 days.
Is it OK to put out that info and name ????? Meaning has taliban actively tried to go outside Afghanistan or Pakistan to collect reward or tried to come to USA that you know off
I knew your brother. Was in 1st Group then. It was so unsettling being in his house for the remembrance get together. Miss him. God bless you and his family.
Dar Salim who is playing the interpreter is a Danish actor who also was in the movie "A war" witch was oscar nominated. ps. A War used reel afghan veterans soldiers ( including myself) from the Danish Royal Guards.
I'm glad you guys enjoyed it. I was a bit confused about the team Sgt situation as well so I appreciate the explanation. I 100% agree on how great it was to see a lead operator that wasn't like 150% testosterone explosion and was much more grounded than some other action movies.
@@jonathanramos8414One of the things that made Predator so good, and The Predator so scary, was how they established just how badass Arnold & his team were such study badasses early in the film. They had the physical prowess, the tactical skill & a massive arsenal. And then they introduce the Predator & he starts picking them off like it’s nothing-like he’s playing with his food, basically. I forget the name of the actor who played the Predator but he was a literal giant. Arnold’s about 6’2”. The Predator’s actor was something like 7’4”. And the costume made him look even bigger. It was a nice touch. They did something similar in Conan the Destroyer when they signed Wilt Chamberlain onto the movie. Wilt was a little over 7’1”, weighed something like 310 & was a solid wall of muscle.
23:55 the reason it feels so real is because of sound design, the slam of metal to metal from a bullet going through your hand and ricocheting off the radio with a heavy clang and a meaty separation of your fingers is intense.
The M2 when they get ambushed is a really good example of this as well. The fire rate is wrong and the deepness was completely missing. You could even tell he’s just pulling it back and forth to look like it’s recoiling.
Awesome review guys. Is the title a reference to "Blood is thicker than water"? Most people mis-interpret this shorter saying to mean that family is most important. But the original saying is "Blood of the covenant of battle is thicker than the water of the womb" and references that soldiers that fought together have a stronger bond than even family members. Hence him risking everything to go back for his interpreter.
There is no actual evidence that that is the original saying. There are a few authors (iirc) who make that assertion, but they never provide any evidence. Meanwhile "Blood is thicker than water" in that form was first recorded in the mid 1600s. I think the longer saying is a modern rebuttal because it is more popular now for people to cut themselves off from family.
Michael Mann has always had realistic gunfights. His Miami Vice was the same as Heat, the sounds of the gunfire, the vibrations of bullets hitting around you etc were all far better than other movies
@@jflannel1965 Michael Mann didn't direct this movie. But I appreciate you trying to join in the conversation :) For the record, it's a Guy Ritchie movie
One of the things I most loved about this movie, and my wife commented on as well, was the Army culture portrayal. She said to me as we were watching it: That so reminds me of you and your guys throughout the years, how you act, behave, and treat each other.
Awesome. I was looking forward to you guys doing this. Also, since everyone puts in suggestions, how about Danger Close. They had both sides of the battle give advice on the making of that.
The series SEAL Team (I know your eyes are probably rolling) used true-kit including plates etc. The actors even ran and filmed completely under NODs for night scenes etc. Tyler Grey (I'm sure you guys are familiar) had input for the series as well as being an actor. The gunfights aren't Lone Survivor quality, but a lot of the movements are at least mostly-realistic (for actors). Any of the really technical acts I noticed are typically performed by Tyler's character (medical, demo, vehicle scenes etc.) which adds to the realism. You guys should check it out.
Yeah, I was really surprised with how good the show is! Especially the scenes where they're flowing through clearing rooms quietly, where most "Hollywood" productions would have everyone yelling "CLEAR" every two seconds.
You guys are awesome. My brother is Airborne Infantry US army and I love how you describe the bullets flying, and the intensity at around 29:00. Incredible description
Such a great breakdown. I proudly serve in the USAF as active duty IT to support you guys, SOF. Such an honor to even think what I do allows you to do your mission. I am in just as much debt to you guys as any civilian.
Gentlemen.. After 3 minutes of listening to your post, I watched the whole movie. Awsom. Thank your fore your servive. A navy vet from Vietna, 25 years a local and federal agent and 33 years as a contract operator, 2 years in Iraq and 5 years in Afghani
Like Buck said if you’ve never been shot at you don’t know what it’s like, once you have been though, whether they are missing you by inches or even a couple feet it’s a sound you’ll never forget, that hissing snap of the bullet breaking the sound barrier flying by your head or body you can feel the pressure wave they generate, and you hear that sharp bang as they fire, with outgoing rounds you just hear the boom, and that’s one way to differentiate incoming and outgoing fire.
Probably the most deep and heart-wrenching dialogue in this movie.. If it wasn't enough for him to carry me access the mountains. Now I can't get him out of my fuc*in head. I'm lying in this bed. I kiss my children before they go to school. And he's hiding in a hole somewhere. A hole he can never get out of. A hole we put him in. That wasn't the deal. The deal was that we offered his family sanctuary. But we tied a noose around his neck and kicked the stool out from his under. I should be in that hole. You think he blessed you? Well he fuc*in cursed me. I am a man who gets no rest.
it's a sh*t line from a director and writter trying to wring money out of a crap scenario that never occurs in real life, on top of a horrible withdrawl which clearly went wrong. In real life if you suddenly learn that your interpreter was formerly affiliated with a terrorist organization and didn't tell you, you get the fk away from that situation! How many people died bc terrorists sent 'infiltrators" and the US military was too stupid to remove them?? How many? This movie's premise is sh*t! It's a disturbed fantasy from a much of distrubed minds. I never liked Gyllenhaal much, now I like him even less. Guy Richie was always a tool, so not much of a surprise there.... of course he's gonna find something to exploit in every tragedy.
I was stationed at bagram in 2014. Airborne Infantry, 1-504 of the 82nd. We were tasked with QRF. But also other missions. Took ch47s off that very airfield many tines..into the night. To all my fellow afghan deployed brothers..love yall. Wish yall the best.
Great job guys! Keep this up! it's super entertaining and your interactions with each other are hilarious lol. There's a great reality series from many years ago called the "The Selection: The Special Operations Experiment" I'd like to recommend for a future episode(s). I think both of you would get a kick out of it, keep up the great work!:)
First, I’d like to thank you for your service and I truly appreciate how you guys break down each situation chain of command for us normal Americans and I also like war movies and their tactics. You guys absolutely rock. Thank you so much once again God bless you both.
I love how black hawk down made a scene just for the sound of being shot at. The practical effects for that movie were crazy from the blanks to squibs blowing up to simulate bullet impacts. In the scene when the gunner fires the m249 over the m60 gunner you can see the muzzle blast even from the blanks and then they used a ton of squibs for the bullet impacts. Not to mention they actually threw the actors into all this the realism really pays off.
John Krasinski's phone call home to his wife is still the single best acted scene in a war movie. Another STELLAR acting scene (although not a soldier) is Tom Hanks and Danielle Albert in the final scene of Capt Phillips when Danielle who is a real Navy Corpsmen treats him at the end. Tom Hanks knocks that out of the park and Danielle does what she does. Total professional
Thanks for pointing out the pristine bump helmets. That was one of the things immediately that completely took me out of the authenticity from the jump. Shouldn't have bothered me as much as it did but it just looked so out of place.
As an Air Force guy that used to work alongside of the American Air Force back to Afghanistan, I really enjoyed watching this movie as Afghan. I really appreciate these two gentlemen for supper performance. And also even though Ahmed was not from Afghanistan but he did a brilliant performance. And also Jake ♥️ After the collapse I feel broken 🥹💔 Much respect for both of you And please us on your prayers 💔🇦🇫
24:32 Lone Survivor sounds better cuz they used actual guns and sim rounds. The Covenant used high end air soft guns and added the sound effects in post.
This was such a strange movie, but I loved it. It was an American war movie by a very British director that seemed focused on the Afghans. Stylistically different.
That's one of the great things about this movie. Jake's character knew he wouldn't have peace until he did everything he could to help his terp. You might call it honor but it's different. It's a debt on his very soul.
There's a big difference between translate & interprete a situation. translate basically deals with language, while interpretation is to explain everything around you.
It's interesting you guys point out Jake's ability to act out the scene that doesn't really put him into a realistic mindset. Because he did End of Watch where he patrolled with actual police officers to prep for the role, doing some training and going to actual crime scenes with him. Pretty interesting to think bout.
I was skeptic when I saw a long reaction video for this one. I didn't really know if y'all were about to trash the fuck out of this or glorify it to heaven and beyond! Great reaction video guys, so much good knowledge put out with this one! Sean, I think it's hilarious how you trash talk Terminal List. I think it's even funnier to hear Abel on the background laughing his guts out. I think it's also awesome how Kurt throws out jokes with a perfectly good straight face 🤣
The movie was partly shot in an Spanish Air Force Base outside Zaragoza. AFAIK the US military doesn't use the overpriced A400M cargo plane. Also, parts of the gear used in the movie was locally procured...In Airsoft shops.
Also with assets if your call comes in for IED strike at the same time another unit is in direct contact you might get the medevac but they are getting the apaches
Love this channel so much. You guys are just a great group of people. Proud to be a subscriber. Thank you for your service and thank you for giving us a great 20 minutes in our day.
47:17 They did that for the show Seal Team. They use real plates, ballistic helmets, and the actors are using actual PVS-31s at night. Yea that show has some issues but it's pretty friggin good given the average kit you see in military shows/movies
Another item missed in final battle scene is when Jake goes dry, at least he says, he’s out. When he walks onto the bird, he has one mag left. Maybe he cross loaded when he got picked up and I missed it. Nit picking.
Just watched this today and thought it was awesome! Just wish they would have cleared the room better in the one scene. I knew the building was too big to be cleared and relaxed that quick.
Since you guys liked this so much, and since you've done HEAT, I'd love to see you guys do a breakdown of Wrath of Man. It's a heist/revenge film by Guy Ritchie, the same director as The Covenant, and it features Jason Statham in some really cool gunfights.
Looks to be a ballistic ops core fast helmet. Iiia rated. A bump would have holes on top. Should be a polyethylene pistol rated one. If it was the rf1 it could handle .30 cal rifle or the ech. Fast costs 2k$ rf 1 is about 3k$ and rhe ech is about 600.$
The other reason the first big fight doesn’t feel realistic is because they’re using a set that other TV shows and movies use. I swear I’ve seen that set get raided before on Seal Team.
Sean nailed it - yes, sound can make or break a shootout scene. Good job pointing out Heat and Lone Survivor - Michael Mann does these really well in all of his movies. As for Mr. Gyllenhal - he has HUGE respect for military and law enforcement communities - he did some patroling with the LAPD before filming End of Watch, so I'd pick him for movies like these every time. Best wishes to you guys:) Love from Poland :)
Pretty sure the helmets are ballistic. Bump helmets, such as the Ops-Core, usually have holes in the top for ventilation. Ballistic ones are solid (for obvious reasons) like the ones in the movie.
For the record, 12 Strong was based on a true story detailed in a book called Horse Soldiers about the first SF sent to Afghanistan after 9/11. Thr movie was crap, but in the real events SF DID ride horses into battle with the Afghans.
Part of I _ _ , during Planning. Fly your own drone. I retired in 2015, my last deployment was 2013…. TF was in Retrograde mode. Reg Army was being pulled back, teams were alone. I was turning in equipment like crazy. Those mud houses aren’t made for the convenience for the American soldier. We stood in Marjah for a few days and the house we occupied had a 2 foot high mud blockage built in the door way… so when I was running back and forth checking on guys, I had to hurdle that shit in gear 100 times a day. I was screaming, who does this shit! By day 3 I just sat on it and spun around. When you were explaining the sounds and feelings of incoming rounds and bombs….. my heart started racing, I’m 54 years old. Don’t give me a heart attack. I remember 500 pound bombshell dropping so close, when they hit the dust that was on everything around you, shook off and felt like it was in slow motion. My jaw would hurt, stomach would hurt. I was screaming, who does this shit! Fun times.
I've been debating mentioning it for a while but now since you guys brought up The Green Berets, I'm going to say you guys should review Zulu (1964). My favorite war movie growing up. A few reasons why: it'd be interesting to see you guys bringing your perspective to events taking place in 1800s-era warfare. It's also a relatively unbiased and relatively accurate account of the engagement during which the highest amount of Victoria Crosses (British equivalent of the MOH) were awarded. Finally, it was Michael Caine's first movie.
Fellas, fellas, fellas, don't forget Apocalypse Now is about two Green Berets! Put it on your list! Great review. I could watch one twice as long. Thanks.
I like that you explained the team patches, but I'm curious how 10th group or above are identified as the single digit doesn't work. I was stationed at Carson and went through SFAUC with 10th group and followed up with SOTIC. Now, mind you, none of those guys wore their team patches as they were not deployed so I was just wondering what it would look like.
Those helmets look like ballistic helmets to me. Ops core has holes in the top cut out for the bump helmets. They might be carbon bumps though, last time I checked those don't have holes but are significantly lighter than the ballistic helmets.
The movie was great! Love Guy Ritchie all the way back to Snatch! He makes a great war movie with his style. You can tell its a Guy Ritchie flick. Love your content! The Interpreter, I dont know his name, but he could win an Oscar for his performance.
44:37 IMO the best scene in "Saving Private Ryan" when Vin Diesel saves that little girl. You can hear the rain, the snipers, people yelling. the loud BOOM see the round flying
The whole time watching this movie I kept on seeing Jake's character as an on screen personification of Cole Fackler from GBRS Group. Mannerisms, facial expressions, tonality, all extremely similar.
What do you mean we can't send the drone, look at our military budget... well sometimes things break, down for maintenance, alot of our equipment is really old. We maintain our equipment but it's not the best as something commercial.
Love these breakdowns, one question I had with the beer scene. I thought you weren't supposed to salute out in the battle area to show who's in charge making them a target?
Please get to the OG Green Berets John Wayne movie as a kid I loved it! I know it can't compete with modern military films but it was fun to watch as a kid.
I’m glad this movie was made. I was an 11B who ETS’d over a decade ago, so over time people sometimes lose contact with each other. But when the Taliban retook Afghanistan people were coming out of the woodwork to make sure our Terp made it out. It was crazy people reconnecting after so long with the willingness just to go back with zero support from our Government just to make sure our terp “Dave” and his family were ok. Luckily he made it out and is happily living here in the states.
I love to hear stuff like this
Now the taliban is having beef with Iran lol
Glad to hear your terp got out unfortunately mine did not. He was killed in 16 but his family did make it out and are currently living in Germany
@@sharkbait_11b Afghanistan was just our generations vietnam. It was lost for some time now. We can blame our leaders all we want
Love to hear this sort of stuff brother, I’m still in, one of our soldiers doing maintenance on our Vic’s. Had family in Afghanistan too, I was making calls pushing emails moving things to the best of my abilities to help my boy get his family into the states after his brother and father inlaw helped our country with Terp work and medical in the small Embassy there in Kabul. I felt a breath of relief once I saw he got them here in the states.. Felt a sense of guilt with the way we got pulled out from the Stan.
Sean is starting to look more and more like Obi Wan Kenobi.
Yeah he is, hence the light sabers In the background
Bro thank you I did a double take on the thumbnail.
Kurt is looking more like black Jesus. Someone needs to do a photoshop where you put Kurt's face on a Jesus portrait with him handing out the bread and the angel wings or something.
I thought I was the only one that thought that
Well, hello there 🧔
Dont dew it
I have the high ground
I liked that it was implied that Ahmed would work for John when he went to America by showing that he was a mechanic and him owning a vintage car repair shop.
i feel stupid for not realizing that. i've watched this twice lol
Jake Gyllenhal has an aura about him, every closed up shot of his face conveys exactly what he wanted us to feel about the situation like no other actor I've seen. I mean he doesn't even need to try it's so natural.
He already played a marine in jarhead and a cop in end of watch, a boxer and an mma fighter. Now a green beret. The man can pull it off.
@@jonathanramos8414 was Jarhead before Prisoners? I started to notice him since Prisoners.
@@d1want34 no prisoners was much later.
You're gonna love Brokeback Mountain.
It's natural 😂
noooooo!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣@@VousEnculez
This was an incredible film. The connection between the forces and interpreter is something never shown before. There are ALOT of people that helped that got forgotten.
One of them is me.
@@ShahmaqsoodSarwariif that's true then thank u for ur service and sacrifice 🫡.... I hope the asshats in our Govt decide to actually keep their word and give yall the Visa's u deserve! Yall were an invaluable asset to keeping our soldiers safe and getting them home, so the least yall deserve is the opportunity to live a free life as well. Peace be with u until then ✌️
They were betrayed by a corrupt administration and allowed to be slaughtered.
Gyllenhal is a hell of an actor. He was also a great cop in End of Watch.
Watch Prisoners
@@donniedarko4688 yup another good one. He has a lot of bangers.
Southpaw
Jarhead
Brothers with Toby Maguire
End of Watch like he mentioned.
He was a hell of a bubble boy too
Good stuff boys. As the military consultant on this movie, there are explanations for all the consistencies. Some mandated and some due to creative direction. But appreciate the review 🙏🏽👊🏽
Why the isaf patches? Lol
@@raidernation365 For one, some SF guys will wear them…specially officers. Two, it paints a picture of their world and three, not everyone who watches this movie is military and it gives context. Just some parts of being a consultant that won’t make sense to people who don’t consult: red tape, big shot directors and dept heads who can make your life easy or hard.
@@2AlphaTrainingGroup isaf was over in Afghan in 2014. But this movie supposed to be in 2018. Not hating. I was a contractor for socom from 2010 to 2016 in Afghan with many deployments before that, just stuff you notice is all. Not sure how context can account for inaccuracy.
@@raidernation365 You’ll notice a bunch of small discrepancies but it’s not for a lack of trying. Certain creative decisions trump my guidance as the mil consultant and I have to go with it. It’s Hollywood. Accuracy is only good if it looks good on camera.
Is that you Kawa? Only thing I noticed is the helmets always looked like they were straight out of the box and not scratched up or used in any way, most likely a hollywood logistics, set and equipment acquisition at the last second, just wanted to see more detail on them.
I was in the US Army Corps of Engineers working as a Hydroelectric mechanic supervisor. I volunteered for duty in Afghanistan. I was prior service so it wasnt a big deal. I was in charge of operations and maintenance at the ANA base, camp Sayer, and police stations in Farah Afghanistan. I had to go to these sites, talk to the officials, make inspections and submit reports to my supervisor in Kandahar. I had an interpreter Hamid uhllah that greatly assisted me. Later when I was back in the States, I learned of the troop pull out at Fob Farah. I knew my interpreter's life was in danger and the Taliban would certainly kill him for assisting the US Gov. I managed to get him and his immediate family a special Visa to the USA. He lives in Up state New York now with a job and is buying a house. He told his daughters the story of how he came to the US. His daughters sent me an email with a hand drawn picture of Superman with my name on it. They said I was their "Hero".
How did you get him the visa? I don't know who Gyllenhaal was calling but I was wondering why he didn't call his Congressional representative or tell his story to CNN or something instead of sitting on hold for 35 days.
Is it OK to put out that info and name ????? Meaning has taliban actively tried to go outside Afghanistan or Pakistan to collect reward or tried to come to USA that you know off
Please edit your comment to remove some info
My brother was in 1st Group, SGM Conner KIA 5/9/07.
I loved this movie, it really touched my soul.
I knew your brother. Was in 1st Group then. It was so unsettling being in his house for the remembrance get together. Miss him. God bless you and his family.
Thank you boys for the great review. Was an honor representing you. De Oppresso Liber.
-ChowChow
The Soundtrack. Underrated. The sequence where Jake’s character remembers the journey the Terp took to bring him back to base… Powerful.
Cheers!
Dar Salim who is playing the interpreter is a Danish actor who also was in the movie "A war" witch was oscar nominated. ps. A War used reel afghan veterans soldiers ( including myself) from the Danish Royal Guards.
@@Chubby_T0511 and if you've seen Game of Thrones
I'm glad you guys enjoyed it. I was a bit confused about the team Sgt situation as well so I appreciate the explanation. I 100% agree on how great it was to see a lead operator that wasn't like 150% testosterone explosion and was much more grounded than some other action movies.
Predator was just pure testosterone and explosions lol
@@jonathanramos8414One of the things that made Predator so good, and The Predator so scary, was how they established just how badass Arnold & his team were such study badasses early in the film. They had the physical prowess, the tactical skill & a massive arsenal. And then they introduce the Predator & he starts picking them off like it’s nothing-like he’s playing with his food, basically. I forget the name of the actor who played the Predator but he was a literal giant. Arnold’s about 6’2”. The Predator’s actor was something like 7’4”. And the costume made him look even bigger.
It was a nice touch. They did something similar in Conan the Destroyer when they signed Wilt Chamberlain onto the movie. Wilt was a little over 7’1”, weighed something like 310 & was a solid wall of muscle.
@@grahamstrouse1165 the predator was a mix of actors too
23:55 the reason it feels so real is because of sound design, the slam of metal to metal from a bullet going through your hand and ricocheting off the radio with a heavy clang and a meaty separation of your fingers is intense.
The M2 when they get ambushed is a really good example of this as well. The fire rate is wrong and the deepness was completely missing. You could even tell he’s just pulling it back and forth to look like it’s recoiling.
Awesome review guys.
Is the title a reference to "Blood is thicker than water"? Most people mis-interpret this shorter saying to mean that family is most important. But the original saying is "Blood of the covenant of battle is thicker than the water of the womb" and references that soldiers that fought together have a stronger bond than even family members. Hence him risking everything to go back for his interpreter.
There is no actual evidence that that is the original saying. There are a few authors (iirc) who make that assertion, but they never provide any evidence. Meanwhile "Blood is thicker than water" in that form was first recorded in the mid 1600s. I think the longer saying is a modern rebuttal because it is more popular now for people to cut themselves off from family.
@@ImDudePlayinADude Either way raw sewage is thicker than both.
Michael Mann has always had realistic gunfights. His Miami Vice was the same as Heat, the sounds of the gunfire, the vibrations of bullets hitting around you etc were all far better than other movies
Last of the Mohicans
There was nothing realistic about the gunfights and tactics in this movie lol.
@stevel.3306 Everyone except me lol
@@jflannel1965 Michael Mann didn't direct this movie. But I appreciate you trying to join in the conversation :)
For the record, it's a Guy Ritchie movie
@@jflannel1965 Thanks for saying that. I came to this video just to hear soldiers rip it apart for their tactics.
One of the things I most loved about this movie, and my wife commented on as well, was the Army culture portrayal. She said to me as we were watching it: That so reminds me of you and your guys throughout the years, how you act, behave, and treat each other.
just as a little tidbit for 43:38 for the firearms in the movie, they mostly used Gas blowback airsoft guns in the movie, just as a safety measure.
Awesome. I was looking forward to you guys doing this. Also, since everyone puts in suggestions, how about Danger Close. They had both sides of the battle give advice on the making of that.
+1 on danger close.
Sending love from Melb to the Aussie diggers during the Vietnam war.
The musical score on this film was fantastic! great review guys!!
I still would love to see you guys break down the original Top Gun and Heartbreak Ridge with Clint Eastwood.
Only thing you need to know about Top Gun is Doc Holliday always wins. Period.
The series SEAL Team (I know your eyes are probably rolling) used true-kit including plates etc. The actors even ran and filmed completely under NODs for night scenes etc.
Tyler Grey (I'm sure you guys are familiar) had input for the series as well as being an actor. The gunfights aren't Lone Survivor quality, but a lot of the movements are at least mostly-realistic (for actors). Any of the really technical acts I noticed are typically performed by Tyler's character (medical, demo, vehicle scenes etc.) which adds to the realism. You guys should check it out.
SEAL Team is great! Buck even said so in the previous Terminal List breakdown.
Yeah, I was really surprised with how good the show is! Especially the scenes where they're flowing through clearing rooms quietly, where most "Hollywood" productions would have everyone yelling "CLEAR" every two seconds.
@@TechMetalRules Sweep left/right too. Heard that WAY too many times.
LOVE how clean and fluid their movements are. It's extremely organic. Like they trained together for years - which is exactly what the cast did too.
You guys are awesome. My brother is Airborne Infantry US army and I love how you describe the bullets flying, and the intensity at around 29:00. Incredible description
Such a great breakdown. I proudly serve in the USAF as active duty IT to support you guys, SOF. Such an honor to even think what I do allows you to do your mission. I am in just as much debt to you guys as any civilian.
Gentlemen.. After 3 minutes of listening to your post, I watched the whole movie. Awsom. Thank your fore your servive. A navy vet from Vietna, 25 years a local and federal agent and 33 years as a contract operator, 2 years in Iraq and 5 years in Afghani
appreciate you brother!
@@FNGACADEMY Thank you for your replies Sirs. Please keep up with your great content here., Much respect, Robert
Happy to see you guys review this movie, and glad to hear your brother is stateside.
Like Buck said if you’ve never been shot at you don’t know what it’s like, once you have been though, whether they are missing you by inches or even a couple feet it’s a sound you’ll never forget, that hissing snap of the bullet breaking the sound barrier flying by your head or body you can feel the pressure wave they generate, and you hear that sharp bang as they fire, with outgoing rounds you just hear the boom, and that’s one way to differentiate incoming and outgoing fire.
Probably the most deep and heart-wrenching dialogue in this movie..
If it wasn't enough for him to carry me access the mountains.
Now I can't get him out of my fuc*in head.
I'm lying in this bed. I kiss my children before they go to school.
And he's hiding in a hole somewhere. A hole he can never get out of. A hole we put him in.
That wasn't the deal. The deal was that we offered his family sanctuary.
But we tied a noose around his neck and kicked the stool out from his under.
I should be in that hole.
You think he blessed you?
Well he fuc*in cursed me.
I am a man who gets no rest.
it's a sh*t line from a director and writter trying to wring money out of a crap scenario that never occurs in real life, on top of a horrible withdrawl which clearly went wrong. In real life if you suddenly learn that your interpreter was formerly affiliated with a terrorist organization and didn't tell you, you get the fk away from that situation! How many people died bc terrorists sent 'infiltrators" and the US military was too stupid to remove them?? How many? This movie's premise is sh*t! It's a disturbed fantasy from a much of distrubed minds. I never liked Gyllenhaal much, now I like him even less. Guy Richie was always a tool, so not much of a surprise there.... of course he's gonna find something to exploit in every tragedy.
i love the breakdowns you 2 do together. thanks for the vids and keep on keepn' on!
Nice shout out to my old Group 1SFG. First in Asia! My gripe other than the helmets is no eye pro.
I was stationed at bagram in 2014. Airborne Infantry, 1-504 of the 82nd. We were tasked with QRF. But also other missions. Took ch47s off that very airfield many tines..into the night. To all my fellow afghan deployed brothers..love yall. Wish yall the best.
Maybe it’s cuz I’m Danish, but you should have given Dar Salim some love for his acting in this movie, he held his own with JG
Great job guys! Keep this up! it's super entertaining and your interactions with each other are hilarious lol. There's a great reality series from many years ago called the "The Selection: The Special Operations Experiment" I'd like to recommend for a future episode(s). I think both of you would get a kick out of it, keep up the great work!:)
Hello from Odesa, Ukraine. Love your content!
First, I’d like to thank you for your service and I truly appreciate how you guys break down each situation chain of command for us normal Americans and I also like war movies and their tactics. You guys absolutely rock. Thank you so much once again God bless you both.
The battle sound in Master & Commander is an amazing example of what you are talking about regarding Lone Survivor gunfight scenes.
I love how black hawk down made a scene just for the sound of being shot at. The practical effects for that movie were crazy from the blanks to squibs blowing up to simulate bullet impacts. In the scene when the gunner fires the m249 over the m60 gunner you can see the muzzle blast even from the blanks and then they used a ton of squibs for the bullet impacts. Not to mention they actually threw the actors into all this the realism really pays off.
John Krasinski's phone call home to his wife is still the single best acted scene in a war movie.
Another STELLAR acting scene (although not a soldier) is Tom Hanks and Danielle Albert in the final scene of Capt Phillips when Danielle who is a real Navy Corpsmen treats him at the end. Tom Hanks knocks that out of the park and Danielle does what she does. Total professional
This channel is legit how often do you come across guys so cool who want to make a difference and are doing You guys are amazing
appreciate that!
Thanks for pointing out the pristine bump helmets. That was one of the things immediately that completely took me out of the authenticity from the jump. Shouldn't have bothered me as much as it did but it just looked so out of place.
Congrats Buck on the update of success 👍
i was waiting for this one THANK YOU
you bet!
As an Air Force guy that used to work alongside of the American Air Force back to Afghanistan, I really enjoyed watching this movie as Afghan. I really appreciate these two gentlemen for supper performance. And also even though Ahmed was not from Afghanistan but he did a brilliant performance.
And also Jake ♥️
After the collapse I feel broken 🥹💔
Much respect for both of you
And please us on your prayers
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24:32 Lone Survivor sounds better cuz they used actual guns and sim rounds. The Covenant used high end air soft guns and added the sound effects in post.
This was such a strange movie, but I loved it. It was an American war movie by a very British director that seemed focused on the Afghans. Stylistically different.
That's one of the great things about this movie.
Jake's character knew he wouldn't have peace until he did everything he could to help his terp.
You might call it honor but it's different. It's a debt on his very soul.
There's a big difference between translate & interprete a situation. translate basically deals with language, while interpretation is to explain everything around you.
It's interesting you guys point out Jake's ability to act out the scene that doesn't really put him into a realistic mindset. Because he did End of Watch where he patrolled with actual police officers to prep for the role, doing some training and going to actual crime scenes with him. Pretty interesting to think bout.
Really dig you guys and love the breakdowns! keep up the awesome work fellas
Great flick and an even better breakdown. Thanks for the top tier content, boys.
26:10 took me back to 12B OSUT with that one lol
I was skeptic when I saw a long reaction video for this one. I didn't really know if y'all were about to trash the fuck out of this or glorify it to heaven and beyond! Great reaction video guys, so much good knowledge put out with this one!
Sean, I think it's hilarious how you trash talk Terminal List. I think it's even funnier to hear Abel on the background laughing his guts out.
I think it's also awesome how Kurt throws out jokes with a perfectly good straight face 🤣
This channel is pure gold.
The movie was partly shot in an Spanish Air Force Base outside Zaragoza. AFAIK the US military doesn't use the overpriced A400M cargo plane. Also, parts of the gear used in the movie was locally procured...In Airsoft shops.
Also with assets if your call comes in for IED strike at the same time another unit is in direct contact you might get the medevac but they are getting the apaches
Love this channel so much. You guys are just a great group of people. Proud to be a subscriber. Thank you for your service and thank you for giving us a great 20 minutes in our day.
47:17 They did that for the show Seal Team. They use real plates, ballistic helmets, and the actors are using actual PVS-31s at night. Yea that show has some issues but it's pretty friggin good given the average kit you see in military shows/movies
Another item missed in final battle scene is when Jake goes dry, at least he says, he’s out. When he walks onto the bird, he has one mag left. Maybe he cross loaded when he got picked up and I missed it. Nit picking.
Just watched this today and thought it was awesome! Just wish they would have cleared the room better in the one scene. I knew the building was too big to be cleared and relaxed that quick.
Since you guys liked this so much, and since you've done HEAT, I'd love to see you guys do a breakdown of Wrath of Man. It's a heist/revenge film by Guy Ritchie, the same director as The Covenant, and it features Jason Statham in some really cool gunfights.
Looks to be a ballistic ops core fast helmet. Iiia rated. A bump would have holes on top. Should be a polyethylene pistol rated one. If it was the rf1 it could handle .30 cal rifle or the ech. Fast costs 2k$ rf 1 is about 3k$ and rhe ech is about 600.$
Great video. LMAO as soon as Sean started talking about the Terminal List
Anybody else notice Anthony Starr from The Boyz? Homelander is in the movie! That's awesome!
Looking forward to watching Covenant again...post breakdown!
How did yall miss the part when he was climbing the side of the mountain on his second trip out his acog went from fde to woodland back to fde
The other reason the first big fight doesn’t feel realistic is because they’re using a set that other TV shows and movies use. I swear I’ve seen that set get raided before on Seal Team.
Great now we have the Siskel and Ebert of war films. I love it. Keep up the good work.
Whoa... I watched this movie last night and was wondering if y'all would do a breakdown on this one day.
Just woke up and here we go. Crazy.
U just woke up bro damn what were u doin last night ?
@@macvsogtaino2350 I get off at 2a.
@@spliffdelakong5422 oof feel that
@@macvsogtaino2350 eh... pays well and I'm not a morning person anyway.
Sean nailed it - yes, sound can make or break a shootout scene. Good job pointing out Heat and Lone Survivor - Michael Mann does these really well in all of his movies. As for Mr. Gyllenhal - he has HUGE respect for military and law enforcement communities - he did some patroling with the LAPD before filming End of Watch, so I'd pick him for movies like these every time. Best wishes to you guys:) Love from Poland :)
Pretty sure the helmets are ballistic. Bump helmets, such as the Ops-Core, usually have holes in the top for ventilation. Ballistic ones are solid (for obvious reasons) like the ones in the movie.
That was fun. Also really enjoey that movie. Didn't know it was that good. Now I know. Great Episode.
This is good perspective. Thank you for your service.
Have you reviewed Band of Brothers?
Such a good film, best ones ive seen, jake never fails
Was waiting for this one...
Was cool seeing Kawa in this film. Wasn't expecting them to actually use his real name too.
What about Ahmeds missing mag changes? Didn't see a lot og mag changes to begin with
Just discovered this gem, love from Germany. You guys are awesome and very funny 😃 keep up the good work
For the record, 12 Strong was based on a true story detailed in a book called Horse Soldiers about the first SF sent to Afghanistan after 9/11. Thr movie was crap, but in the real events SF DID ride horses into battle with the Afghans.
Part of I _ _ , during Planning. Fly your own drone. I retired in 2015, my last deployment was 2013…. TF was in Retrograde mode. Reg Army was being pulled back, teams were alone. I was turning in equipment like crazy.
Those mud houses aren’t made for the convenience for the American soldier. We stood in Marjah for a few days and the house we occupied had a 2 foot high mud blockage built in the door way… so when I was running back and forth checking on guys, I had to hurdle that shit in gear 100 times a day. I was screaming, who does this shit! By day 3 I just sat on it and spun around. When you were explaining the sounds and feelings of incoming rounds and bombs….. my heart started racing, I’m 54 years old. Don’t give me a heart attack. I remember 500 pound bombshell dropping so close, when they hit the dust that was on everything around you, shook off and felt like it was in slow motion. My jaw would hurt, stomach would hurt. I was screaming, who does this shit! Fun times.
So for the explosion, it was c4 that was intended to detonate the rest of the munitions within the ied factory
I've been debating mentioning it for a while but now since you guys brought up The Green Berets, I'm going to say you guys should review Zulu (1964). My favorite war movie growing up. A few reasons why: it'd be interesting to see you guys bringing your perspective to events taking place in 1800s-era warfare. It's also a relatively unbiased and relatively accurate account of the engagement during which the highest amount of Victoria Crosses (British equivalent of the MOH) were awarded. Finally, it was Michael Caine's first movie.
Great Review, I enjoy yalls commentary.
Fellas, fellas, fellas, don't forget Apocalypse Now is about two Green Berets! Put it on your list! Great review. I could watch one twice as long. Thanks.
I like that you explained the team patches, but I'm curious how 10th group or above are identified as the single digit doesn't work. I was stationed at Carson and went through SFAUC with 10th group and followed up with SOTIC. Now, mind you, none of those guys wore their team patches as they were not deployed so I was just wondering what it would look like.
Those helmets look like ballistic helmets to me. Ops core has holes in the top cut out for the bump helmets. They might be carbon bumps though, last time I checked those don't have holes but are significantly lighter than the ballistic helmets.
Great video by the way. You and your Mate are the salt of the Earth.
22:44 I’m fluent with that trigger son!! HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA that was cool.
Hearing snaps and cracks makes you not want to move. If all you heard was pops from the rifle doesn't have near the affect on your anxiety.
The movie was great! Love Guy Ritchie all the way back to Snatch! He makes a great war movie with his style. You can tell its a Guy Ritchie flick. Love your content! The Interpreter, I dont know his name, but he could win an Oscar for his performance.
Snatch is an absolute gem
"Shut Up And Sit Down, You Big, Bald Fuck."
Dar Salim played the interpreter. He stole the show.
Going to watch this in theaters this Tuesday ($5 tickets on Tuesday’s…) so I’ll save this video on my watch later.
That's awesome man God bless you guys 👏🏿
appreciate you
44:37 IMO the best scene in "Saving Private Ryan" when Vin Diesel saves that little girl. You can hear the rain, the snipers, people yelling. the loud BOOM see the round flying
Question..... What SF unit is in California?? Jake's family was in California.
we don't have a group in California, good spot
The whole time watching this movie I kept on seeing Jake's character as an on screen personification of Cole Fackler from GBRS Group. Mannerisms, facial expressions, tonality, all extremely similar.
What do you mean we can't send the drone, look at our military budget... well sometimes things break, down for maintenance, alot of our equipment is really old. We maintain our equipment but it's not the best as something commercial.
They're talking about reaper drones that are huge, take off/land from airstrips and piloted remotely.
I knew something was off when I saw the trailer...those damn clean helmets lol. But glad to hear you guys liked it, Ill have to check it out.
Thank you Gentlemen for a good modern day GB movie review. It's good to hear that it's SF approved! 🤘🏼🇺🇲
what up Jay!
@@FNGACADEMY What's good my Guys! As always I'm present and account for! 🤘🏼🇺🇲
Love these breakdowns, one question I had with the beer scene. I thought you weren't supposed to salute out in the battle area to show who's in charge making them a target?
Please get to the OG Green Berets John Wayne movie as a kid I loved it! I know it can't compete with modern military films but it was fun to watch as a kid.
Where was the captain in the film, and I only counted 8 team member?