Former British soldier here. I was watching the video, obviously hoping that our SF would be at the top but I definitely cant argue about the skill and likeability of the ‘strailians. My best mate was an Aussie commando and that man can brighten up the most dismal f*cking nasty, rainy cold shit day and turn it into a laugh. 🍻 Great vid. 🙂
ROK Marine here. Spot on about the ROK side. We hate it too, it's so suffocating LOL. Just the entire culture in general is like that. The strict East Asian culture where discipline and power hierarchies are on steroids. It's a big reason why our SOF community and the military retention rate as a whole are dying. (I have heard about how the ROKA SWC is a bit over the top with appealing to their COC, compared to ROK NSW/ROKMC Force Recon and etc. It's even a known thing among the ROKs.) Yup, combat experience is rare. Most combat experience our guys have are border skirmishes, anti-piracy OPs, artillery exchanges,/IDF, and mine incidents that happen occasionally. (We get shit on by the ROK 'Nam/DMZ[when the DMZ was actually fucking active and crazy] vets all the time for it 😂) But hey, thankfully it's been getting better nowadays. LMFAO. Been enjoying your videos, keep up the good shit man.
I was US Army at the JSA on camp Bonifas in 2015. While I wasn't SF or working with SF, the JSA ROK infantry guys are supposed to be at least a little bit better than the rest, and I can say for them, they were pretty bad in terms of just complaining, tired, unmotivated... You nailed it with the hiarcy thing and I can attest to that as I've been back and forth to Korea for the last 8 years, because I have a Korean wife and three half Korean kids who go to Korean school. Military hiarcy mixed with Korean culture is a toxic combo for sure.. I don't even want my son's to go to the Korean army to maintain citizenship anymore, it's disgusting.
@@AlwaysFknSalty Makes sense. They were forced into it. That's a big reason why the people who do join the ROKMC do so. It's the only volunteer branch. Everyone's here because they want to be.
As a Korean, very embarrassed that the Korean special forces were in a low rank, than completely convinced when I heard that the training was all a play lol I only served for a short period of time as a conscript, but the vertical culture of the Korean military, closed communication, training that had nothing to do with actual combat, inefficient customs, etc. were really annoying things during my service. I think the Korean military is particularly severe, although it may be a thing of every military. Many young officers try to solve this, but most of them leave the army before long. As the population decreases, the number of conscripts is also decreasing, and the application rate for officers and NCO is gradually decreasing, and the rate of early discharge is increasing. I'm really worried! Thanks for your video. Well observed.
Great to hear you have the Aussies up the top! I must also mention that our brother across the ditch, the New Zealand SAS are also up there with the best..
@LongShadong Haha when it comes to sports yeah we like to bash each other and talk shit but when it comes to war we will always have each others backs ANZAC
Happy to hear CSOR and CANSOF got ranked so high As pissed as I am about how the CAF is being manhandled, I hope that CANSOF will find ways to keep quality persons despite the cuts
The way CANSOF is set up, with guys being fed into it primarily from infantry units, we need to work as a country on making sure that that infantry to SF pipeline is strong.
Never was special anything just a navy mechanic. Singapore was probably the worst group we ever had to work with . The French navy was always a pleasure to work with and they had beer on their boat. Only 1 a day but it was nice .
The Filipino SF follow the famous Recondo School type of training, dating back to the Vietnam War. Back then, the graduation consisted in a week-long Recon Patrol behind Enemy Lines. You survive, you graduate. Crazy shit.
Didn’t the Philippine government recently offer the Moro to have a say in governance and they accept? So the live action recon wouldn’t happen now or is it still on like kong?
@@radaraacf It still happens. There are still belligerents like Abu Sayaf and Commie rebels. There are still Moro rebels who are not taking part of the peace deal
Only 1st special regiment and grom (hr oriented) were involved in combat. Maybe their Formoza (seal equivalent) was also but little. Grom and psk/jwk was working with green berets. And some stories I’ve heard there was an American operator that during exercise with polish sof accidentally shot a „hostage” target and got immediately discharged by his sergeant major but I don’t know the full story
SF Interoperability between Nations is incredibly important, now more than ever with the increased threat of symmetrical warfare from a rising china and belligerent Russia abreast of the continuance of asymmetrical within the Middle East. So rating how well US SF works with partner forces is actually a valid stat, as the ability to operate effectively in unison will be a force multiplier in large scale operations. Very happy to hear 2CDO and SAS rate highly being an Aussie Vet, but that’s in our nature I think, we love a good scrap (fight) and the ‘work hard - play harder’ ethos is engrained in our military culture, or at least I hope it still is. Great vid, cheers 🍻
I think you got on correct point. Real combat experience and Culture things. KR have typical vertical culture even in SF. Our last combat experience was Vietnam war. It was long time ago and after we got nothing on combat experience.
Tysvm on ur service in the USA military. I’m from Canada and retired from the Canadian CF Myself. God bless u and ur family and the other NATO members that’s still serving.
Back in 70/71 in Vietnam while doing recon in bush,could always know when a US marine unit was close,could smell the distinct camel/Winston cigarettes smell,was dead give away,some weed also,we never compromise our position just let ramble by,ex Aussie sas 68 to 76.
@@braveworld2707 VC also had a soft spot for Australians because we buried the dead enemy & marked the grave for the Red Cross to recover later. That was in line with Vietnamese Catholic culture.
Nice, a little surprised that you haven't encountered the NZSAS or the SBS given the range of SOF teams you've covered ... nice to have a straight narrative without all the BS photos and other visual props 🙏
We had Aussies on exchange at our UK unit for a year! Beer monsters!! Shamed our whole regiment and most of the local civ pop in a steel working town 😂 that’s the convic moon shine upbringing 🇦🇺 🇬🇧😂
@@ValhallaVFT we had COs Pt organised for last day before summer leave. We had 3 Aussies still drinking beer at 7am whilst everyone was getting ready for parade 😂 then an 8mile Tab 🫣 they still managed it 👊🏻🇦🇺
Thank you for sharing your thought. For Canadian 🇨🇦 SF, I am assuming you mean CSOR (Tier 2) and not JTF2 (Tier 1)? Because your list had a mixture of the two tiers.
Hey man, this was awesome. Thank you for sharing your experiences. I know it's a long shot due to the controversial aspect, but you should do one where you share your opinion on all of the American SOF units you worked with.
My family member is in the Aussie military, they work in a support role, nothing combat related. However, they told me drop out rate for just the regular infantry is pretty high. It's one of the most coveted roles in the Army but lots of people get injured, are not conditioned enough and so on and they need to transfer to other roles. This is just their anecdotal experience from talking to other service members who gave it a shot. I always though it wouldn't be 'that hard', in the sense that an average fit person could keep up but apprently that's not the case. As a non military person, hearing that put things into perspective for me, more than any documentary or whatever, how tough the SF standards must be to meet.
I'm aiming for the RAR and then eventually SF but, shit the infantry is tough enough in Australia hey.. I'm 15 but have plenty of time to prep thankfully
@@vinceversinceAU Good on ya mate, I was like that when I was 15 too. I joined when I 18 and was in 2RAR. I went all around the world on deployments. It's the best job in the world, probably even better than you imagine it to be.
Not nearly as much experience, working with far fewer units. But I agree. ANA Commandos were scary and dangerous to work with. I worked with an Afghan SF medic and didn't realize he wasn't one of our guys at first. He was awesome to work with. I didn't work closely with the Brits, but we never had to worry about them and their AO. I also had the chance to work with UAE guys, and we enjoyed working with them. There are a lot of great Special Operations units from all over the world, and it was a privilege to work with a couple of them (not the Commandos).
If you have the time and willingness, I would like to suggest a future video. In which you discuss more in depth about the issues you had with some units. For example, Japan, Korea or any others. I understand you mentioned "optics". Meaning, of course, the "theatrics" regarding how a said unit performs in front of the chain of command. Again, "the culture" being a significant reason behind such mentalities. Naturally, a unit doesn't improve when they don't learn to adapt in such a potentially high-risk situation. From what you mentioned, it seems like they wanted to practice a specific situation in a well-rehearsed-controlled environment and with a predictable outcome. So, as to appear to operate as what is expected of a top Tier 1 unit to the chain of command. Which is not necessarily reflective of what they may or may not be capable of realistically? Because such situations are anything but predictable. The idea of such training, I imagine, is to find weaknesses and hone and develop skills that allow operatives/teams to adapt to high risk situations and complete the task/mission to the very best they can ideally achieve.
Russian SF were half decimated at the beginning of the war as they were used as basic infantry and got whacked in conventional exchanges. Very doubtful they’ll back to any reasonable levels for a decade if that.
@@neillgowans4350 Western media claimed at the time that 90% of the Russian Spetznatz and Airborne were KIA. It turned out that less than 10% were actually deployed to action and that it was a very limited operation (180.000 soldiers), nowhere near a "full-blown invasion" as the western media called it until not long ago.
@@neillgowans4350 That’s the biggest load of horse crap I’ve ever heard lol. Pure propaganda. Russian SF is arguably the most combat experienced/effective in the world at the moment.
The PNP SAF you mentioned was police unit. You should have worked with the AFP units like the Light Reaction Regiment, NAVSOG, Scout Ranger and the SF those were really on par with western special units, highly skilled and experienced in a subpar equipment.
overproud afp check 🤣 tingin mo dyan hindi nakipag trained sa ibang unit ng AFP ? USSF green beret yan engot 🤣 tuturuan mo pa yung instructor 🤣 nanunuod ka na nga hindi mo pa naintindihan sinasabi 🤣 pilit mo pa yung SR na mga hilaw 🤣
@@scaucymancannotdiebaby7034 kawawa ka naman 🤣 haha alam na alam ng USSF kung sino mga hilaw at walan pinag aralan na mga highschool na uhaw sa atensyon at papuri 🤣 mga mabababang uri hahahaha
Also how well equipped were the Mongolians? Were they just really good from a mountaineering/ physical standpoint but underfunded? Were they better than you guys at Mountain ops? I imagine they had horses ha
They were definitely better than us at rock climbing, not necessarily operations. And they had actually just stood the unit up recently so not that high level of equipment at that time.
I had a business and we used to look after Japanese jornalists in AUstralia, we also had to clean their places when they left and I had this Japanese guy show me through and explain a few things to me, that was Hori. He said :" the kitchen is dirty if Japanese man live here by himself tu he will tell you it is clean, because it is woan's work and he wont recognise it is dirty" just an interesting insight. Also Hori was born in the US but ran their company in Australia, he drove an Ausralian Ford, he said to me one day, "I go home as soon as they tell me," I said.."so you will go back to America just like that?" he said "No,.,,Japan is my home" He had never been there in his live..one thing he did say that amused me more was that when he did " I will take my Australian Ford with me."
Was solidly hoping to see if you trained with the Indian Para SF, not many stories about Indo-US sf training out there. Would love to hear an outside perspective
A large part of that reason is that India does tend to hang out under the Moscow umbrella of influence, more than most. India is actually in multiple joint research projects with Russia. Also have some mutual defense agreements. So of course the U.S. will not be interacting militarily with Indian military all that often. But hey, you get Russian military tech on the cheap. LOL
@@DumbGrunt.0311 Goes to show how little you know mate. Para SF is literally the most capable high altitude force in the world. The US and Brit SF are in joint training programs with the Para SF. The more you know
@@PaperbackDreamsMusic yeah they’re so good that on a 30 man training jump all 30 soldiers were seriously injured plus 1 bystander. Being tolerated by the top dogs doesn’t make you a top dog.
@@DumbGrunt.0311 Source: Trust me bro. Dude, neither the Indian government nor its army or its special forces require tolerance from the 'top dogs'. India has maintained and strengthened her geopolitical stance and is considered to be an important player and diplomatic ally by all the blocks. It is because of the army and its special forces that India has maintained its growth trajectory and sovereignty all the while being surrounded by ill-intentioned nations. And to answer your extremely contrived western basement dwelling narrative, the western regiments don't train with the MARCOS commandos, Rashtriya Rifles, CIF, and Para SF for nothing. There is a lot to be learned and taught.
Israeli SF must get up to all sorts of crazy sh*t. They must have some sort of ground presence in Iran, Yemen, etc. for things to happen with such lethal regularity. In the past they sent the general staff reconnaissance unit into Egypt to tap their cables and communications lines so there’s precedent. Presently they routinely operate in Palestinian cities (often undercover) - so it’s not a stretch to imagine them operating in the far abroad in much the same way.
What about the Dutch? We have the KCT (equivalent to green berets) and Marsof (equivalent to Marsoc/seals) and they are pretty capable from what I hear.
@@georgeedmond3401 yeah I know wiseacre, the question was mostly directed to the comment section. Also he could’ve heard something from the other group that works in Europe mostly.
Brits hella angry in the comments but the man is speaking from his experience. I'll take his opinion over some random, drunk, Chelsea soccer hooligan any day lol
Actually SAF unit in the Philippines have more combat experience than any other SOF unit in the Philippines. They take down and hunt high value targets in Mindanao that was actually insane. They work together with Light Reaction Regiment from AFP.. Actually SAF and LRR is the best unit in the Philippines especially the Marawi Siege they are tandem.
well most brits know our history ,,we dont need bullshite social media gobshites saying there sf are better when they cannot back it up like us brits,,,, our warriors did more in ww2 than the rest of the world has done in a lifetime ,, butthurt? yes its about our evolution and no country on this planet comes close ,
I'm sorry to say but Saf is the best unit in the Philippines in terms of actual combat operations in mindanao..they hunt and kill HVT's all around mindanao
@@dorsia6938 i’m guessing based off your reaction - Australian Marines must be like the British Marine Commandos? I was a UAV operator, the aussies originally came to the US to train on the various platforms and would shadow us on missions (I believe they have their own school house now modeled after ours). So they might’ve been former Marines, i knew most of them were former infantry.
CANSOF JTF2 (tier 1 unit, It is notable that JTF2 remains the only foreign (from the American point of view) special operation unit to be conducted into American JSOC Tier 1 ranking (Along with Delta and Seal Team 6). CSOR (tier 2, which is probably the one he is referencing, since green beret is a tier 2 unit) Correct me if I am wrong sir.
I knew an Irish who at the time was working for Mechen, a South African demining company in Mozambique. His name was Paddy. He had been British SAS, Rhodesian SAS, and SA Recce. He participated with Renamo guerrillas in the destruction of Beira oil deposits around 1978. He spoke highly of the Portuguese paras and strangely he despised the Israeli special forces. He said they were mere propaganda.
Got a query for ya, you spent time in Aussie land in Talisman Sabre, how do you rank the American G.I against the Aussie Rifleman. Taking SF out of the equation here.
Just wondering how you can rate the Israeli special forces if you haven't worked with them? A tier 1 unit like the british SBS/SAS would unlikely be paired up with a tier 2 unit like the Green Berets for high level jobs. You mention a freefall operation with the SAS, no british SF units dropped into Iraq or Afghanistan in this recent war. Tier 1& 2 are vastly different mission objectives. It's not a dig at your list, however it is a mirror of the tasks and missions ( that you know doubt smashed ) your untit was assigned. the Green Berets are wizards man but the the objectives for Tier 1 and 2 are incomparable.
I know SASR sometimes train with The Kopassus, however the general consensus from ADF members is neutral, meaning I've never heard our guys talking bad about them.
Before 2cdo was 4RAR based at Holsworthy in NSW Australia ,which wiped Indonesian special forces search party dressed as civilians in East Timor which was tracking 4RAR soldiers in the jungle but got chopped by heavy machine gun fire and one got head blown apart by a grenade launcher fired into vacant build which they tried to hide after brief skirmish in jungle but it's been said TAG West is the best unit tactically for any type international incident basically best of all spec ops soliders selected to be in tag west which also counter terrorism unit does west coast of Australia for terrorism an TAG East is similar but on eastern coast which is also based in Holsworthy barracks
Where are you getting the info about the Indonesian SF? The action you refer to were pro Indonesian Militia. Kopassus were believed to of helped coordinate the Militia but were not believed to have been involved in the action. Also, it was a SAS patrol and not a 4 RAR (CDO) patrol that was involved.
@@ValhallaVFTthe truth hurts haha. God knows how many billions of dollars, straight out of taxpayer hands and into billionaire's pockets via MIC companies.
P.S. 2 Comando and other Australian military forces do NOT have the power to randomly go out and arrest civilians, they CAN depending on the premises, i.e. defence force premises, but just to wander out and arrest people..NO! I find it hard to give credibitilty now this guy has said that..maybe he just didn't understand?
We all have different mission sets, capabilities and roles, so honestly it would just be comparing apples to oranges and wouldn’t really hold any weight.
I read a book about a seal unit working with Turkish SOF and he said they are very professional and very happy to work with the yanks. Also they are good hosts and good drinkers.
@@ValhallaVFT Really? You'd think the British would have a hell of a lot of experience? Can't remember them not being in some sort of conflict, be that Northern ireland or all the others, for about 200 years?
Hey man. Do you have any experience working with the Malaysian Army Special Forces? Not trying to thump my chest. Just wanna know your input about our guys. Are they shit or squared away?
@muazazman3999 , probably more mind set. I saw them on one exercise, when the company were doing a company attack. They did not have bfa,s and had to re cock each shot. They did not perform any fire and movement, did not look for cover or decent firing positions, and most did not even aim in the direction of the Attack. I did see thir SF carry out some demonstrations and they were good, also their survival guys did some work with us, and again were very good. Their equipment was not bad, they were using Styer Aug, and their MREs were better than ours. We were very very good at counter insurgency, and worked in 9 man sections. Every one of us was a good navigator, and could problem solve, we were flexible. In my time 80s to mid 90s, I think in that role we were as good as any unit that I came accross, probably better than most. I trained with UK, US Army and Marines, NZ Infantry,and Malay. Came accross others as well, but did not train directly with them. I stress, I am only saying we were better at counter insurgency, in a bush scenario. In full on war, I would NOT want to be up against any US force, as their logistics and fire power is second to none, and it does not matter how skilled small units are when an A10, or 155mm regt is on to you, followed by a large body of grunts.
@@Donatellooo77x that comment is absolutely embarrassing ,, again british sas can back up there history, why is gign better? lots of history books about the sas , ww2, falklands, Malayan Emergency,Iranian Embassy Siege,Operation Banner,,ect ect ect,,,, every gobshite on social media thinks there country has the best whatever ,, history tells you a tiny island changed the modern world,, but the british and french have had the most battles than any other ,,, so be proud of that,,,lol
Retired 18Z here, 5th & 10th Gp. I worked with the Commandos years ago, after the train hijacking. They were really nice guys, and of course, like most Dutch, spoke excellent English. This was years before 9/11. My recollections are hazy, but I remember them putting us through CQB, and they had some great tactics. Sorry, I can't remember more. By the way before SF, when I was a paratrooper with the 509th Abn out of Vicenza, Italy, I did the Nijmegen marches 3 times. We did 1 25miler in 5hrs 11mins. Love the Dutch people!
@@danstoye3902 I salute you my Italian brother. Thanks for sharing this information with me. I've been in the army for a year now as a CBRN operator but hadn't got the chance to talk with a commando yet since I rarely see them. Definitely planning on partaking in the Nijmegen marches next year tho
Poland doesn’t have one universal SOF unit. They have three strike units (plus some supporting ones): (a) GROM - which is considered Tier 1 SMU & equivalent to Delta and SAS (in fact, they both built GROM in the 1990s); (b) Commandos - equivalent to Green Berets; and (c) Formoza - equivalent to U.S. Navy SEALs. So which one are you referring to?
@@ln5747 Dude, UK taking all the credit per usual. How about you stop watching Forces TV, and realize that there is alot going out outside Congress. GSMG, for example, is just one of the many many ex US SOF groups making meaningful contributions to the conflict. Not to mention the actual black programs being run by US IC.
@@ssgtomen621 watch Forces TV 😂 i don't watch that shit on Ukraine as it's propaganda. Secondly, they don't discuss military personnel in Ukraine. As for The UK taking all the credit, you can't be serious 😂. Almost every Hollywood war movie ever made is about Murica taking the credit for saving the day 😂. As for what I say reference UK assistance, I am still correct.
@@ln5747 Seriously? Movies are movies mate. When your newspapers dog on about TF Slack saving the day- or even outright lying about 'rescuing CIA agents because Delta didn't have any experience', or 'outnumbered Royal Marines defeating a Marine Div in an exercise', its whole different level. Ill give you that. UK is playing a role in this war, but they are not the only ones. Congrats, you have posted something that actually tracks, albeit partially.
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Former British soldier here. I was watching the video, obviously hoping that our SF would be at the top but I definitely cant argue about the skill and likeability of the ‘strailians. My best mate was an Aussie commando and that man can brighten up the most dismal f*cking nasty, rainy cold shit day and turn it into a laugh. 🍻
Great vid. 🙂
ROK Marine here.
Spot on about the ROK side.
We hate it too, it's so suffocating LOL. Just the entire culture in general is like that. The strict East Asian culture where discipline and power hierarchies are on steroids. It's a big reason why our SOF community and the military retention rate as a whole are dying.
(I have heard about how the ROKA SWC is a bit over the top with appealing to their COC, compared to ROK NSW/ROKMC Force Recon and etc. It's even a known thing among the ROKs.)
Yup, combat experience is rare.
Most combat experience our guys have are border skirmishes, anti-piracy OPs, artillery exchanges,/IDF, and mine incidents that happen occasionally.
(We get shit on by the ROK 'Nam/DMZ[when the DMZ was actually fucking active and crazy] vets all the time for it 😂)
But hey, thankfully it's been getting better nowadays. LMFAO.
Been enjoying your videos, keep up the good shit man.
Cool to hear perspective from your side, I’d imagine it would be frustrating to deal with.
I was US Army at the JSA on camp Bonifas in 2015. While I wasn't SF or working with SF, the JSA ROK infantry guys are supposed to be at least a little bit better than the rest, and I can say for them, they were pretty bad in terms of just complaining, tired, unmotivated...
You nailed it with the hiarcy thing and I can attest to that as I've been back and forth to Korea for the last 8 years, because I have a Korean wife and three half Korean kids who go to Korean school. Military hiarcy mixed with Korean culture is a toxic combo for sure.. I don't even want my son's to go to the Korean army to maintain citizenship anymore, it's disgusting.
@@AlwaysFknSalty Makes sense. They were forced into it.
That's a big reason why the people who do join the ROKMC do so. It's the only volunteer branch. Everyone's here because they want to be.
@@meanjune Ah so ROK Marines are volunteer. Interesting. Is the budget any better there?
@@AlwaysFknSalty Nope, same as the US. We're dept. of the Navy. We're the most broke. Hand me downs.
As a Korean, very embarrassed that the Korean special forces were in a low rank,
than completely convinced when I heard that the training was all a play lol
I only served for a short period of time as a conscript, but the vertical culture of the Korean military, closed communication, training that had nothing to do with actual combat, inefficient customs, etc. were really annoying things during my service.
I think the Korean military is particularly severe, although it may be a thing of every military.
Many young officers try to solve this, but most of them leave the army before long.
As the population decreases, the number of conscripts is also decreasing, and the application rate for officers and NCO is gradually decreasing, and the rate of early discharge is increasing.
I'm really worried!
Thanks for your video. Well observed.
I would’ve expected the Koreans to be higher. Japanese SF I could’ve guessed
@@mattwarner5742 Absolutely agree
Great to hear you have the Aussies up the top! I must also mention that our brother across the ditch, the New Zealand SAS are also up there with the best..
They got a health boost to the top from also being the most fun dudes I worked with by a large margin.
What a Ozzie saying something good about the kiwis
@LongShadong Haha when it comes to sports yeah we like to bash each other and talk shit but when it comes to war we will always have each others backs ANZAC
@@LongShadong You cant spell anzac without New Zealand.
@@dreday77764 nothing better than a bit of banter
Happy to hear CSOR and CANSOF got ranked so high
As pissed as I am about how the CAF is being manhandled, I hope that CANSOF will find ways to keep quality persons despite the cuts
Same shit happening int the US, both countries need a leadership change direly.
The solution is clear, the minister of defense needs to act ASAP
The way CANSOF is set up, with guys being fed into it primarily from infantry units, we need to work as a country on making sure that that infantry to SF pipeline is strong.
Never was special anything just a navy mechanic. Singapore was probably the worst group we ever had to work with . The French navy was always a pleasure to work with and they had beer on their boat. Only 1 a day but it was nice .
Ah man, sorry to hear that you had a bad time working with my country's navy... I'm curious to know the reason why though!
@@lychvy8023 probably just ran into a bad unit. Every military has them. I've heard nothing but good things about Singapore, personally!
The Navy needs mechanics - thank you for your service. :)
"What, you said only 1 a day? 1 six pack is "1" a day!"
The Filipino SF follow the famous Recondo School type of training, dating back to the Vietnam War. Back then, the graduation consisted in a week-long Recon Patrol behind Enemy Lines. You survive, you graduate. Crazy shit.
I’ve heard about that. Pretty wild stuff.
Didn’t the Philippine government recently offer the Moro to have a say in governance and they accept? So the live action recon wouldn’t happen now or is it still on like kong?
Was thinking the exact same thing based on all of the Vietnam era LRRP/LRP books that I've read.
@@radaraacf yea but alot of dissidents rebels didnt like that and split off, now you got folks like ISIS and other armed groups roaming around.
@@radaraacf It still happens. There are still belligerents like Abu Sayaf and Commie rebels. There are still Moro rebels who are not taking part of the peace deal
Which Polish SF did you work with? They have 5 or 6 groups within their SF. I think GROM is supposed to be their most elite.
Only 1st special regiment and grom (hr oriented) were involved in combat. Maybe their Formoza (seal equivalent) was also but little. Grom and psk/jwk was working with green berets. And some stories I’ve heard there was an American operator that during exercise with polish sof accidentally shot a „hostage” target and got immediately discharged by his sergeant major but I don’t know the full story
SF Interoperability between Nations is incredibly important, now more than ever with the increased threat of symmetrical warfare from a rising china and belligerent Russia abreast of the continuance of asymmetrical within the Middle East. So rating how well US SF works with partner forces is actually a valid stat, as the ability to operate effectively in unison will be a force multiplier in large scale operations. Very happy to hear 2CDO and SAS rate highly being an Aussie Vet, but that’s in our nature I think, we love a good scrap (fight) and the ‘work hard - play harder’ ethos is engrained in our military culture, or at least I hope it still is.
Great vid, cheers 🍻
Brother thank you for sharing your experience. And thank you for serving our country.
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@@ValhallaVFTso u worked with jtf2 before?
You forgot to mention how much the Aussie soldiers drink. I am retired and in my sixties, my wife still complains about it!
Partying with the Aussies is part of what they got rated so high brother.
I think you got on correct point. Real combat experience and Culture things. KR have typical vertical culture even in SF. Our last combat experience was Vietnam war. It was long time ago and after we got nothing on combat experience.
Tysvm on ur service in the USA military. I’m from Canada and retired from the Canadian CF Myself. God bless u and ur family and the other NATO members that’s still serving.
Back in 70/71 in Vietnam while doing recon in bush,could always know when a US marine unit was close,could smell the distinct camel/Winston cigarettes smell,was dead give away,some weed also,we never compromise our position just let ramble by,ex Aussie sas 68 to 76.
My dad was a green beret same time period. He’s told me that exact same thing.
@@ValhallaVFTthe green beret were way in front of grunts, they probably keep there distance same as we did.
Victor Charles avoided areas the Oz SASR worked in even with that nice big bonus on the SASR heads.
Phantom of the Jungle! Much respect mate. It's amazing how far the smell of cigarette smoke travels in the gungle.
@@braveworld2707 VC also had a soft spot for Australians because we buried the dead enemy & marked the grave for the Red Cross to recover later. That was in line with Vietnamese Catholic culture.
Nice, a little surprised that you haven't encountered the NZSAS or the SBS given the range of SOF teams you've covered ... nice to have a straight narrative without all the BS photos and other visual props 🙏
Highly possible NZSAS & AusSAS are seen as the same thing, through American eyes.
Most people don’t know nz even exists to be fair
@@JohnBaptist-v7y true dat, maybe not a bad thing either!
Good video mate and nice to hear you hold British SAS in high regard
We had Aussies on exchange at our UK unit for a year! Beer monsters!! Shamed our whole regiment and most of the local civ pop in a steel working town 😂 that’s the convic moon shine upbringing 🇦🇺 🇬🇧😂
Those dudes are out of fucking control, the most fun to work with by far.
@@ValhallaVFT we had COs Pt organised for last day before summer leave. We had 3 Aussies still drinking beer at 7am whilst everyone was getting ready for parade 😂 then an 8mile Tab 🫣 they still managed it 👊🏻🇦🇺
Walter who was that then? Beer monsters? No Brit would call an Aussie a Beer monster. So who you with?
A Brit calling an Aussie a beer monster ?? Hahaha behave yaself
@@SuperOwls1867 yerp it’s true
Drinking is frowned upon now in UK armed forces. Unless your in the red arrows
Thank you for sharing your thought.
For Canadian 🇨🇦 SF, I am assuming you mean CSOR (Tier 2) and not JTF2 (Tier 1)? Because your list had a mixture of the two tiers.
Hey man, this was awesome. Thank you for sharing your experiences. I know it's a long shot due to the controversial aspect, but you should do one where you share your opinion on all of the American SOF units you worked with.
My family member is in the Aussie military, they work in a support role, nothing combat related. However, they told me drop out rate for just the regular infantry is pretty high. It's one of the most coveted roles in the Army but lots of people get injured, are not conditioned enough and so on and they need to transfer to other roles. This is just their anecdotal experience from talking to other service members who gave it a shot. I always though it wouldn't be 'that hard', in the sense that an average fit person could keep up but apprently that's not the case. As a non military person, hearing that put things into perspective for me, more than any documentary or whatever, how tough the SF standards must be to meet.
I'm aiming for the RAR and then eventually SF but, shit the infantry is tough enough in Australia hey.. I'm 15 but have plenty of time to prep thankfully
@@vinceversinceAU Good on ya mate, I was like that when I was 15 too. I joined when I 18 and was in 2RAR. I went all around the world on deployments. It's the best job in the world, probably even better than you imagine it to be.
Great point, I've been of the school of thinking that the average quality matter more than the elite quality.
@@adamroper1197 second to no bastard!
There is a doco on the SASR entrance exam and its harder the even the commandos training
In Asia it’s all about “face”. How things appear are more important than how they function.
Proud of our troops. 👍🇦🇺
Not nearly as much experience, working with far fewer units. But I agree. ANA Commandos were scary and dangerous to work with. I worked with an Afghan SF medic and didn't realize he wasn't one of our guys at first. He was awesome to work with. I didn't work closely with the Brits, but we never had to worry about them and their AO. I also had the chance to work with UAE guys, and we enjoyed working with them. There are a lot of great Special Operations units from all over the world, and it was a privilege to work with a couple of them (not the Commandos).
If you have the time and willingness, I would like to suggest a future video. In which you discuss more in depth about the issues you had with some units. For example, Japan, Korea or any others.
I understand you mentioned "optics". Meaning, of course, the "theatrics" regarding how a said unit performs in front of the chain of command.
Again, "the culture" being a significant reason behind such mentalities. Naturally, a unit doesn't improve when they don't learn to adapt in such a potentially high-risk situation.
From what you mentioned, it seems like they wanted to practice a specific situation in a well-rehearsed-controlled environment and with a predictable outcome. So, as to appear to operate as what is expected of a top Tier 1 unit to the chain of command. Which is not necessarily reflective of what they may or may not be capable of realistically? Because such situations are anything but predictable.
The idea of such training, I imagine, is to find weaknesses and hone and develop skills that allow operatives/teams to adapt to high risk situations and complete the task/mission to the very best they can ideally achieve.
Imagine how good Ukrainian and Russian special forces are now with shit ton of experiences in modern high intensity conflict
Russian SF were half decimated at the beginning of the war as they were used as basic infantry and got whacked in conventional exchanges. Very doubtful they’ll back to any reasonable levels for a decade if that.
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Western media claimed at the time that 90% of the Russian Spetznatz and Airborne were KIA. It turned out that less than 10% were actually deployed to action and that it was a very limited operation (180.000 soldiers), nowhere near a "full-blown invasion" as the western media called it until not long ago.
@@neillgowans4350 That’s the biggest load of horse crap I’ve ever heard lol. Pure propaganda. Russian SF is arguably the most combat experienced/effective in the world at the moment.
@@neillgowans4350negative. They never lost that many. You can find countless videos of them conducting ops rn
@@neillgowans4350 lol, keep dreaming
What happened to those Afghan Special Forces guys that were trained by Green Berets? Imprisoned? Or did they escape?
They’ve still got a resistance force. A lot have been killed though.
Wasn't #ruzziaTerroristState trying to recruit them?
Always enjoy these!
The PNP SAF you mentioned was police unit. You should have worked with the AFP units like the Light Reaction Regiment, NAVSOG, Scout Ranger and the SF those were really on par with western special units, highly skilled and experienced in a subpar equipment.
overproud afp check 🤣 tingin mo dyan hindi nakipag trained sa ibang unit ng AFP ? USSF green beret yan engot 🤣 tuturuan mo pa yung instructor 🤣 nanunuod ka na nga hindi mo pa naintindihan sinasabi 🤣 pilit mo pa yung SR na mga hilaw 🤣
He knows who's the best in the Philippines. he actually worked on AFP Sof unit but he didn't like em
@@marchmondaze07266 lol ok instik bodyguard.
@@liriko6310 no
@@scaucymancannotdiebaby7034 kawawa ka naman 🤣 haha alam na alam ng USSF kung sino mga hilaw at walan pinag aralan na mga highschool na uhaw sa atensyon at papuri 🤣 mga mabababang uri hahahaha
AUKUS ftw 🇦🇺 🇬🇧 🇺🇸
A good drinking game :-
Take a shot every time he touches his hat :)
Kidding. Good video :)
I remember reading the Amazing SAS by Ian McPhedran, and his accounts would confirm everything you've said.
Also how well equipped were the Mongolians? Were they just really good from a mountaineering/ physical standpoint but underfunded? Were they better than you guys at Mountain ops? I imagine they had horses ha
They were definitely better than us at rock climbing, not necessarily operations. And they had actually just stood the unit up recently so not that high level of equipment at that time.
What's the general consensus on South African SF? Do Green Beret's (3rd Group) often get to work with them?
I'm Australian and would often bump in to ex recces in Iraq that were doing PMC work, they seemed ok. They had a good reputation pre '94.
I had a business and we used to look after Japanese jornalists in AUstralia, we also had to clean their places when they left and I had this Japanese guy show me through and explain a few things to me, that was Hori. He said :" the kitchen is dirty if Japanese man live here by himself tu he will tell you it is clean, because it is woan's work and he wont recognise it is dirty" just an interesting insight. Also Hori was born in the US but ran their company in Australia, he drove an Ausralian Ford, he said to me one day, "I go home as soon as they tell me," I said.."so you will go back to America just like that?" he said "No,.,,Japan is my home" He had never been there in his live..one thing he did say that amused me more was that when he did " I will take my Australian Ford with me."
Was solidly hoping to see if you trained with the Indian Para SF, not many stories about Indo-US sf training out there. Would love to hear an outside perspective
A large part of that reason is that India does tend to hang out under the Moscow umbrella of influence, more than most.
India is actually in multiple joint research projects with Russia. Also have some mutual defense agreements.
So of course the U.S. will not be interacting militarily with Indian military all that often. But hey, you get Russian military tech on the cheap. LOL
No question about it India would be at the bottom of the list lol
@@DumbGrunt.0311 Goes to show how little you know mate. Para SF is literally the most capable high altitude force in the world. The US and Brit SF are in joint training programs with the Para SF. The more you know
@@PaperbackDreamsMusic yeah they’re so good that on a 30 man training jump all 30 soldiers were seriously injured plus 1 bystander. Being tolerated by the top dogs doesn’t make you a top dog.
@@DumbGrunt.0311 Source: Trust me bro.
Dude, neither the Indian government nor its army or its special forces require tolerance from the 'top dogs'. India has maintained and strengthened her geopolitical stance and is considered to be an important player and diplomatic ally by all the blocks. It is because of the army and its special forces that India has maintained its growth trajectory and sovereignty all the while being surrounded by ill-intentioned nations.
And to answer your extremely contrived western basement dwelling narrative, the western regiments don't train with the MARCOS commandos, Rashtriya Rifles, CIF, and Para SF for nothing. There is a lot to be learned and taught.
Not gonna deny that on the part of the PNP SAF and other filipino units, their tactics are somehow outdated but they are effective
Israeli SF must get up to all sorts of crazy sh*t. They must have some sort of ground presence in Iran, Yemen, etc. for things to happen with such lethal regularity. In the past they sent the general staff reconnaissance unit into Egypt to tap their cables and communications lines so there’s precedent. Presently they routinely operate in Palestinian cities (often undercover) - so it’s not a stretch to imagine them operating in the far abroad in much the same way.
any experience or info on Norwegian special operations?
great vid
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'Straya.
Love your content
What about the Dutch? We have the KCT (equivalent to green berets) and Marsof (equivalent to Marsoc/seals) and they are pretty capable from what I hear.
They didn't make the list because he didn't work with them. That was the caveat at the beginning.
@@georgeedmond3401 yeah I know wiseacre, the question was mostly directed to the comment section. Also he could’ve heard something from the other group that works in Europe mostly.
@@j9717j "..Like the Germans, the Dutch don't have a sense of humor ..." That's what he probably heard.
Awesome nate❤
Brits hella angry in the comments but the man is speaking from his experience. I'll take his opinion over some random, drunk, Chelsea soccer hooligan any day lol
Could you go into more detail on Canadian sof? Our government provides literally nothing about special forces.
Rank the US army infantry divisions you’ve worked with
Actually SAF unit in the Philippines have more combat experience than any other SOF unit in the Philippines. They take down and hunt high value targets in Mindanao that was actually insane. They work together with Light Reaction Regiment from AFP.. Actually SAF and LRR is the best unit in the Philippines especially the Marawi Siege they are tandem.
No New Zealand SAS?
Always so funny the English getting butthurt over the SASR getting rated higher than their SAS 😂😂
well most brits know our history ,,we dont need bullshite social media gobshites saying there sf are better when they cannot back it up like us brits,,,, our warriors did more in ww2 than the rest of the world has done in a lifetime ,, butthurt? yes its about our evolution and no country on this planet comes close ,
They are still a bit bitter about shipping us to a country that turned out 10x better than their own 😅
If only I knew drinking hard and being amazing at fast roping was high on the list of a Green beret. 😂😂
PNP SAF is a police unit and not military. It's a great thing that a police special operations is among some of the best military units.
I didn’t say best military units I worked with. I said special operations units.
@@ValhallaVFTdamn right
I'm sorry to say but Saf is the best unit in the Philippines in terms of actual combat operations in mindanao..they hunt and kill HVT's all around mindanao
Fuck, I want that hat… I worked with the Aussie Marines, insanely proficient, professional and all crazy a fuck. I loved working with them.
Australian Marines?
@@cm-pr2ys that’s what people called them when I worked with them, I wasn’t in the Australian Army - I don’t know their military make up.
@@TheCCBoi probably just infantry
@@dorsia6938 i’m guessing based off your reaction - Australian Marines must be like the British Marine Commandos?
I was a UAV operator, the aussies originally came to the US to train on the various platforms and would shadow us on missions (I believe they have their own school house now modeled after ours). So they might’ve been former Marines, i knew most of them were former infantry.
@@TheCCBoi Yea Aussies don't have marines our infantry are cross trained for waterborne and ground borne
Nice vid man. keep it up.
Did you ever had any exposure to Philippines Light reaction regiment? if so how good are they?
Trained with them, amazing soldiers, hard as nails.
CANSOF
JTF2 (tier 1 unit, It is notable that JTF2 remains the only foreign (from the American point of view) special operation unit to be conducted into American JSOC Tier 1 ranking (Along with Delta and Seal Team 6).
CSOR (tier 2, which is probably the one he is referencing, since green beret is a tier 2 unit)
Correct me if I am wrong sir.
Tiers don’t mean anything outside of funding.
Delta and ST6 doesn't work with U.S. Special Forces. 😁
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Super Kuiu.
#ericcsrtman
Love the channel.
Thanks 🙏
I knew an Irish who at the time was working for Mechen, a South African demining company in Mozambique. His name was Paddy. He had been British SAS, Rhodesian SAS, and SA Recce. He participated with Renamo guerrillas in the destruction of Beira oil deposits around 1978. He spoke highly of the Portuguese paras and strangely he despised the Israeli special forces. He said they were mere propaganda.
Got a query for ya, you spent time in Aussie land in Talisman Sabre, how do you rank the American G.I against the Aussie Rifleman. Taking SF out of the equation here.
I suspect Kiwi SAS would rank well
Just wondering how you can rate the Israeli special forces if you haven't worked with them? A tier 1 unit like the british SBS/SAS would unlikely be paired up with a tier 2 unit like the Green Berets for high level jobs. You mention a freefall operation with the SAS, no british SF units dropped into Iraq or Afghanistan in this recent war. Tier 1& 2 are vastly different mission objectives. It's not a dig at your list, however it is a mirror of the tasks and missions ( that you know doubt smashed ) your untit was assigned. the Green Berets are wizards man but the the objectives for Tier 1 and 2 are incomparable.
Thanks man
French SAS, Commando Marine and CPA 10, also GCP and GCM. Man...when people puts stereotypes apart and work with them...my God....
true mate,, under 16s british girl cadets feel the same,,, my god
Do you have experience working (training) with the Indonesian SOF? Are they competent enough?
I personally never worked in Indonesia so I can’t really comment on that unfortunately.
I know SASR sometimes train with The Kopassus, however the general consensus from ADF members is neutral, meaning I've never heard our guys talking bad about them.
Although not technically Special forces, Whats your view on the Royal Marine Commandos Nathan?
Haven’t ever work with them so my opinion isn’t worth much on that front.
For such a small corps, around six to seven thousand, they provide a huge percentage of all UK SF.
lol
@@ValhallaVFT
Same level as seals
@@inquisitorsneed2 yes, except for team 6.
Before 2cdo was 4RAR based at Holsworthy in NSW Australia ,which wiped Indonesian special forces search party dressed as civilians in East Timor which was tracking 4RAR soldiers in the jungle but got chopped by heavy machine gun fire and one got head blown apart by a grenade launcher fired into vacant build which they tried to hide after brief skirmish in jungle but it's been said TAG West is the best unit tactically for any type international incident basically best of all spec ops soliders selected to be in tag west which also counter terrorism unit does west coast of Australia for terrorism an TAG East is similar but on eastern coast which is also based in Holsworthy barracks
Where are you getting the info about the Indonesian SF? The action you refer to were pro Indonesian Militia. Kopassus were believed to of helped coordinate the Militia but were not believed to have been involved in the action. Also, it was a SAS patrol and not a 4 RAR (CDO) patrol that was involved.
Swede here, wondering if you or anyone you know has worked with the Swedish SOG and what you/they thought of them.
I don’t, too bad too, that’s where my family is from. Would have been cool to work with them.
@@ValhallaVFT I understand. The SOG have been my dream/obsession for about the last two years so I want to get my hands on as much info as I can.
Talk about army rangers and if you trained with them
We worked with SF overseas and had a exchange program where they sent us an SF team sergeant and we sent them a Ranger SL.
what's the real story with the war in Ukraine? i was under the impression that the Russian's were handing them their asses and it was basically over.
The real story is it’s a huge money laundering operation. Don’t over complicate it.
@@ValhallaVFT So Kremlin is right then?
@@ValhallaVFTthe truth hurts haha.
God knows how many billions of dollars, straight out of taxpayer hands and into billionaire's pockets via MIC companies.
salute sir, did you ever worked with Tunisians ? ( they won Leapfest 1994, Tunisian Airborn Regiment)
What about jtf2?
They have the standing combat sniper record, SW Asia 🥇 . Iraq, rifle- .50BMG custom. The older sniper record was a UK 🇬🇧 army sniper .338 Lapua.
Cool vid!!!
Afghani Commandos sound a lot like the Iraqi Police
IP was terrible
P.S. 2 Comando and other Australian military forces do NOT have the power to randomly go out and arrest civilians, they CAN depending on the premises, i.e. defence force premises, but just to wander out and arrest people..NO! I find it hard to give credibitilty now this guy has said that..maybe he just didn't understand?
damm dude didn't say anything about the Balkan folks
The SASR is ranked higher, MUCH higher , than 2 commando.
Do you know the ksk?
Anyone worked with Georgian special forces? If yes, were they any good?
Can you do a similar vid but us sof units instead of foreign?
We all have different mission sets, capabilities and roles, so honestly it would just be comparing apples to oranges and wouldn’t really hold any weight.
Have you ever worked with the Turkish SOF? If so what's your opinion on them?
Wasn’t in 5th group so I didn’t work with any Middle East units outside of Afghanistan/Iraq.
@@ValhallaVFT thanks
Apparently they are a "delight" to work with!
I read a book about a seal unit working with Turkish SOF and he said they are very professional and very happy to work with the yanks. Also they are good hosts and good drinkers.
@@Dave.Thatcher1😅
I don’t know if this unit still exists: Lanceros? Colombia. They also had actual combat CT ops as a Graduation exercise.
What's your opinion on mexican special forces
Wasn’t in 7th group so I didnt work with any central or South American countries.
Not surprised about the Korean Special Forces. I work in Korea and everything is just trash with their military.
Real question is what would you rate our SF teams? Is there other countries that are better than us?
No, USSOF is well beyond anyone else, we have 10x the combat experience.
@@ValhallaVFT Really? You'd think the British would have a hell of a lot of experience? Can't remember them not being in some sort of conflict, be that Northern ireland or all the others, for about 200 years?
For what Filipinos lack in tactics, they make up for with heart
Hey man. Do you have any experience working with the Malaysian Army Special Forces? Not trying to thump my chest. Just wanna know your input about our guys. Are they shit or squared away?
The only time my unit was doing something with Malaysia I was recovering from a shoulder surgery, so unfortunately I haven’t.
The Gherak Khas look pretty badass on that new Netflix show.
I worked with Malays. I don't rate their infantry very highly, but their SF were very good from what I saw at Pulada.
@@topendgold9284 in what way were the grunts awful? Mindset? Capability? Equipment?
@muazazman3999 , probably more mind set. I saw them on one exercise, when the company were doing a company attack. They did not have bfa,s and had to re cock each shot. They did not perform any fire and movement, did not look for cover or decent firing positions, and most did not even aim in the direction of the Attack.
I did see thir SF carry out some demonstrations and they were good, also their survival guys did some work with us, and again were very good. Their equipment was not bad, they were using Styer Aug, and their MREs were better than ours. We were very very good at counter insurgency, and worked in 9 man sections. Every one of us was a good navigator, and could problem solve, we were flexible. In my time 80s to mid 90s, I think in that role we were as good as any unit that I came accross, probably better than most. I trained with UK, US Army and Marines, NZ Infantry,and Malay. Came accross others as well, but did not train directly with them. I stress, I am only saying we were better at counter insurgency, in a bush scenario. In full on war, I would NOT want to be up against any US force, as their logistics and fire power is second to none, and it does not matter how skilled small units are when an A10, or 155mm regt is on to you, followed by a large body of grunts.
What about the Boy Scouts ?
Turkish maroon berets any good?
but who is the best trained of them all, we all know the Americans and Brits can't win a war without its allies but which ally is numba 1
Azerbaijani Special operations?
French GIGN is way better than all of them just saying
lol why? british under 16s girl cadets dads who did more sf secret missions in ww2 , that saved your country ,why better?
@@jasoncornthwaite8387 buddy go revisit your history it’s the French who hold the German at Dunkirk for you guys to disappear on your tiny island
@@Donatellooo77x that comment is absolutely embarrassing ,, again british sas can back up there history, why is gign better? lots of history books about the sas , ww2, falklands, Malayan Emergency,Iranian Embassy Siege,Operation Banner,,ect ect ect,,,, every gobshite on social media thinks there country has the best whatever ,, history tells you a tiny island changed the modern world,, but the british and french have had the most battles than any other ,,, so be proud of that,,,lol
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any opinion on argentine commando´s
Any idea where the Dutch commando's and the NLmarsof rank compared to other special forces? Never heard anyone outside of my country talk about them
Haven’t heard anything about them and haven’t worked with them so I don’t know.
Retired 18Z here, 5th & 10th Gp. I worked with the Commandos years ago, after the train hijacking. They were really nice guys, and of course, like most Dutch, spoke excellent English. This was years before 9/11. My recollections are hazy, but I remember them putting us through CQB, and they had some great tactics. Sorry, I can't remember more. By the way before SF, when I was a paratrooper with the 509th Abn out of Vicenza, Italy, I did the Nijmegen marches 3 times. We did 1 25miler in 5hrs 11mins. Love the Dutch people!
@@danstoye3902 I salute you my Italian brother. Thanks for sharing this information with me. I've been in the army for a year now as a CBRN operator but hadn't got the chance to talk with a commando yet since I rarely see them. Definitely planning on partaking in the Nijmegen marches next year tho
Sounds more like who made you laugh most got the top spots
Poland doesn’t have one universal SOF unit. They have three strike units (plus some supporting ones): (a) GROM - which is considered Tier 1 SMU & equivalent to Delta and SAS (in fact, they both built GROM in the 1990s); (b) Commandos - equivalent to Green Berets; and (c) Formoza - equivalent to U.S. Navy SEALs. So which one are you referring to?
Can russian OMON be considered a SF ?
Who trained Ukrainian sf?
10th group.
@@ValhallaVFT who is mostly doing it now? Not US, not Aus.. Congress has had far more limititations than Parliament.
@@ln5747 Dude, UK taking all the credit per usual. How about you stop watching Forces TV, and realize that there is alot going out outside Congress. GSMG, for example, is just one of the many many ex US SOF groups making meaningful contributions to the conflict. Not to mention the actual black programs being run by US IC.
@@ssgtomen621 watch Forces TV 😂 i don't watch that shit on Ukraine as it's propaganda. Secondly, they don't discuss military personnel in Ukraine.
As for The UK taking all the credit, you can't be serious 😂. Almost every Hollywood war movie ever made is about Murica taking the credit for saving the day 😂.
As for what I say reference UK assistance, I am still correct.
@@ln5747 Seriously? Movies are movies mate. When your newspapers dog on about TF Slack saving the day- or even outright lying about 'rescuing CIA agents because Delta didn't have any experience', or 'outnumbered Royal Marines defeating a Marine Div in an exercise', its whole different level. Ill give you that. UK is playing a role in this war, but they are not the only ones. Congrats, you have posted something that actually tracks, albeit partially.
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did you train with Finnish sof? if so what was ur impression
Nope, no Scandinavian countries, sadly as that’s my ethnic background.
I have a lot of green beret friends easy to work with
You forgot the foreign forces like the American navy seals and Delta force.
`Straya. Cheers mate