"Gamers" Are The Biggest Threat to American Society
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- Опубликовано: 13 май 2024
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I remember when there was world peace and no violence. Then came the release of Pong in 1972 and the world went to hell....
Lol yeah 😂
On the Atari?
@@Acc3ssd3n13d4 We don't say that here. It's a traumatic word.
Space War and Tennis for two predate Pong. Tic Tac Toe predate those.
The problem is a lot older than we thought.
Social Mediaists streaming Space War caused Korea and Vietnam
@@joshriley2936 Not really real trauma is being happy, again :¬)
Sounds like someone needed to justify their funding
Too bad they will eventually start witch hunts to justify their pointless existence.
I was wondering what the angle was here. I get the white supremacy angle, don't agree with it but I see what they're trying to do. I also thought maybe it's a play for banning guns or controlling media but funding seems logical too.
first minute and a half and I can tell this is the reason
Lmao that’s what I was thinking
Sounds like exactly what that is.
However a culture may suffer for it....
Maybe there will be another VG crash..... with all the shitty half baked games coming out and pol against gaming
I'm out here playing Stardew Valley and never realized I was a extremeist...
Stardew Valley involves easily accessed healthcare, helping your community and going against a corporation for the benefit of the land and people.
So you know... Socialism/Communism and anti-capitalism. The things the US hates almost as much as not-wh1te people.
same here. Stardew and animal crossing are two of my most played games
You lettuce killer!!
Hold up there sport, I heard you can sacrifice your kids in that game through some sort of black magic act. Clearly that peaceful relaxing farming game is part of the problem too.
Tending to the slimes in Slime Rancher sure now feels a whole lot different...
We all know video games is the perfect scapegoat that just gets brought up to cover for the real issues at hand.
What's sad is how many idiots believe it too.
the report almost entirely attacked social media and gaming adjacent social media, it used gaming as one of many examples of Extremists finding like minded individuals and then using social media to create larger communities.
They weren't going after gaming, they were going after gaming and social media giants not doing enough to stop extremist thoughts (I mean fuck Discord alone has had how many channels be used in court as evidence against mass shooters and terrorists?) it's main focus was on social media
That and drugs. They get blamed for everything
Drugs r a problem tho@@Lingist081
Before video games got huge, role playing games were on the chopping block. Apparently if you don't spend 100% of your free time working for a corporation or the state, then you are obviously up to no good.
We all have that one friend who plays gta for 5 minutes before he gets delusional and hijacks an 18-wheeler
😂 good call
Yeah it was dark times, growing up, as a pre teen. Yknow. when I went through that phase of stealing cars and running people down on the sidewalks before hitting up a pay n spray and going back home.
They love to act like humans are incapable of distinguishing between reality and fiction. And that you could somehow practice to commit heinous acts by playing games. Im not sure of a single game where such an argument would ever hold any weight. The only similar thing ive ever seen was when they put people who were good at racing simulators into real race cars and saw that they performed far better than people who have never played racing sims. Both groups had never raced before.
@@evil993 yeah but most people don’t have an interest in playing simulator games.
@@rickfastly2671 right, was just trying to say Im not aware of any other category of game actually teaching transferable skills that would be relevant. You often hear games being used as a scapegoat, sure, but specifically saying they "practiced" in a videogame is silly as hell.
I could see certain more realistic games giving you some sort of reference for some things like leading targets, but its very different IRL.
@@evil993 yeah, I agree, I just wish people/govt would stop blaming video games, and actually implement changes that benefit most of the populace.
The Government “accountability” office: *finding ways to waste your tax money and blaming you for our problems*
Yeah, this society is bordering on thought policing. We’re becoming akin to a soviet state.
"there you are playing the PvP in your world war two shooter and all of the sudden you're a Nazi, you didn't ask for this, you didn't choose this yet there it is..."
That was a great moment in RUclips history.
I unsubbed from extra credits for that video
I was already unsubbed from them but my god the room temperature takes they're putting out now. Lefties love their surface level thinkers.
@@avereth They wouldn't be lefties if they could think two or three steps ahead.
How many times are they going to try this garbage?
Until they succeed
The answer is "as many times as they need a distraction from their rampant corruption and blatant evil towards their own citizens"
Until the boomer generation dies out and they lose all support
Every time people start noticing.
Until white nations are no more
let's be 100% honest, league of legends is the entire reason why these guys hate gamers.
I mean they probably have a point if you narrow it down to people who've played LOL or dota those game are probably singlehandedly responsible for the increased mental health pandemic in america
@@kavinh10can you please expand on your reasoning there, taking into account I've never played either or even seen the gameplay? Very interested in this.
@@scottmatznick3140 League is extremely competetive, and as such people often get very upset when they dont get the result they want, usually blaming everyone on their team in less than favourable words
Never played LoL. What's the game's report system and does it work? Do they ban aggressive players effectively?
@@HauntedhighheelNope. It is hilariously bad. The only times the ban system works is when the players band together to ban newbies.
Really, this is where our taxes are going, there’s way more important issues than gaming
It's not a good sign when the people who are supposed to stop the waste of money are wasteing money
It's not video games that are the problem. It's how they are being used by white nationalists
Your taxes aren't going to just that, there's also the acts of terrorism in third world countries and the financing of a genocide
I think back to that guy who was grilling the Tiktok Ceo and asked if the app needs to access the home wifi to connect to the internet.
I don't think half of them even know what videogames are.
they don't want solutions, they want more problems, so they can stay in power, hoping people will keep voting for them
I heard somebody say something bad in real life. It's time to ban real life.
@mystic_scythe and these people are idiots. By the same logic, basically all works of fiction should be burned; video games, movies, books, tabletop games including chess...
They can't do that though... Multi billion dollar company's would go under. God would be out of a job, bugs Bunny would be elected for president.
Lol
I'm convinced someone in government loses all their loot in Rust or something and takes their rage quit a little too far
I was wondering why brandon had to have men's diapers delivered to the whitehouse.
@@jackrabbit1704 oh that's normal
Yeah, I'm tooootally an extremist. I'm so bad and evil I can't even click the rude dialogue options because I'm afraid I'll make the character mad at me.
Lol, I always play the “good guy” for similar reasons. I feel bad for the characters.
Those good old days where games would breed "violent" children, seem to never end. They will always blame something they don't fully understand.
Great point. What's amazing about this to me: this report basically calls out the "toxic nature that surrounds video games and the associated forums." Have they done the same study on how members of the US congress interact? Talk about toxicity....and civil servants were once considered "upstanding citizens"
@@gnyphq6405 the usual rule for you but not for me
@@gnyphq6405 I mean, it's nothing new under the sun, it used to be the same with horror movies, rock music, some board games etc.
As long as it's the newest kind of entertainment and is more complicated or different enough it's "evil".
@@Unknown_Genius For sure. It's the hypocrisy of it all, is all I mean to point out.
Politicians pick any one or more of semi-random things and blame them for society's ills because people who already dislike those things will get a little hit of dopamine when they hear someone agree with them and vote for that person. It doesn't matter if there are statistics or facts to back up their claims, or even if the stats and facts actively refute them. Video games have always been a safe scapegoat because Boomers and their parents rarely play them, and old people vote more than young people.
ADL needs to be abolished. The real crime is the waste of taxpayer's money.
The ADL was created to defend the reputation of a Jewish pedophile because stopping a Jewish pedophile is apparently racist and also presents a threat to all Jews.
Hopefully Elon Musk wins the lawsuit against them and bankrupts them.
@@jackwilson5542funny you mention that, I've literally just read a news article saying he did indeed defeat the "actual defamatory league" and succeeded in maintaining the right of his social media platform to continue to provide accurate, non censored footage of a certain attack that happened recently, among others. We the people have every right, to choose if we would like to be informed of certain events taking place around the world and in our own countries, particularly about attacks that pose such a danger to decent, law abiding citizens as opposed to the government or some obscure, outdated and some say govt funded organisations with an ego so large, they believe they have the right to decide for us what we can, and cannot see. And ironically, just like the Streisand effect, the more they try to censor such things, the more people will seek it out, as with anything, the psychological effect when we feel something is being hidden from us, will only serve to make us even more determined to find it lol.
@@truthhurts2879 Yeah, I like Twitter/X as you can express your opinion freely. (Whereas here even my comment about my phone's battery life was literally auto deleted) That's why I pay for a subscription there, to support the platform.
@@jackwilson5542you can post it you'll just be shadow banned and nobody will see it
If you play game backwards it spells satan
Especially Stardew Valley
@@Karldin83 COMMUNISM! XD
@@setojurai Nah, the average SV player character has millions worth of real estate and production equipment. I'm pretty sure they'd all be against forced collectivism. Suddenly you should hand over your Greenhouse full of Ancient Fruits to Pierre or the Barn full of Pigs to Marnie? I don't think so.
Theere was stories like this in the 70s I believe where if you dragged vinyls backwards they emitted demonic chants. Who let these loonies work for the Government of the US?
Are you saying that the Argentinian rock band Los Natas has ties to satanism? Wikipedia does say that they played "stoner rock", so I guess there's an angle there.
Watch out memes gonna take out society.
THE MEMES, JACK! THE MEMES!!!
Meme videos already did, with the invention of tiktok
Meme war getting too real
I mean, yeah, unironically. Memes are ideas that mutate and evolve to become more virulent, and are powerful enough to change the course of elections. The argument in the video is dumber than that, though.
Remember Pepe the green frog is the enemy. The ADL said so.
I could believe that 12 out of 100 streamers (including gaming and non-gaming), with a subscriber base of 500K+, were once swatted and/or doxxed. But claiming that for the entire adult gamer base is insane.
I never experienced white supremacy until I started playing war thunder
I never knew I was literally a pile of feces until I tried League of Legends. Also, I never knew my mother spent so much time with hundreds of men.
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I think I recall some ne'er-do-wells in the odd Team Fortress 2 lobby years and years ago, every single time they were basically bullied by every other person in the game until they went away. I wonder if stuff like that is in the report.
Play call of duty Kira is super far off here, this shit actually happens. And I love games.
@@smallredbox I
TLDR: The issue is not gaming but communication in general. As soon as you give people with similar interests a way to communicate in any shape or form there is potential for radicalization. But that doesn't even require the internet or even direkt interaction. By their logic books and just talking to other people should be banned as well.
Meme strikes are a threat to democracy.
"democracy" Tyranny. 🤡
sweet liberty....
Democracy is a meme.
I mean, this whole scare thing is why some people were saying that the Joker movie was gonna create a movement of scary men that were gonna grievously harm society as a whole, or something.
Which has already happened 1000 times before the Joker movie.
It actually has encouraged many individuals to imitate him and commit crimes in his image 😂
Okay society would be infinitly better without social media, but dont attack my games.
they weren't, the report was mainly pointing out how radicals use games to find like minded individuals quickly and then use gaming adjacent media to expand and grow that community, they weren't saying "games make extremists" just "extremists use games and social media to find other extremists" the report mainly wants to set a strategy for preventing Radical thought from spreading through media and gaming platforms
@@nicholasbrown668 Yeah my friend group were playing GTA V for a little too long and got groomed into becoming racists
@@voidimperial1179 this comparison would only make sense if your friends were racists before they got on GTA and then used it to find other racists, you aren't as smart as you think
@@nicholasbrown668 People can go onto 4Chan or any other site to do the same shit. Games with places like Steam, Xbox, PS, etc. have people that will block them, other racists who will block them, and racists who might enjoy their company before blocking them or keeping them. Even if they did ban games to an extent to remove the ability to find extremists, they'll literally just move to instagram, twitter, RUclips even to find the people they want.
@@nicholasbrown668 Radicals don't need to use games to find like-minded people, you clown.
Honestly, who is worse, a weirdo that believes in some crap, or "reasonable" people that stalk other people on internet, who are being paid by the government.
I am an American. I study politics. If that many people had been swatted, it would have been declared a national emergency. No way in hell.
I'm just going to toss out another example I heard recently listening to a podcast. Donut Operator an ex-police officer who makes police related content on RUclips has been swatted 5 times since he started making videos on RUclips. The most recent time he had it done to him he had to explain to the police that showed up to his house what swatting was. Now he lives in a large city and if the large city police don't know what it is I doubt it occurs that often.
They're counting making a 911 call about another player as swatting. Shameful
@@GustavoPinho89 That is swatting.
Using ADL as a source is already laughably discrediting
ADL just keeps losing court cases for defamation.
The goal of the report is not to be accurate, the goal is to provide ammo for certain people.
(((them)))
Lol, what a lovely use of my taxes.
This is why I will stay unemployed /s
Good point.
They want to silence pro-palestinian population and are using this report as an excuse to do so.
Let's be honest, these mfs would never survive a 2008 Modern Warfare 2 lobby
That's not some badge of honor. Also you're proving the reports point of harremest being a problem.
@@bobiswambo Found another one that wouldn't survive the 2008 era of Call of Duty lmfao. If you can't take some C-tier trash talking then get the fuck off of the internet
@@bobiswambo It proves that they're a bunch of whiny bitches that couldn't survive in the real world if it weren't for others just as weak as them who can't take some bad trash talk lmfao
@@bobiswambo Harassment in the legal sense isn't the same as perceived 'harassment' in a game. Calling someone a rude word isn't harassment.
I wonder when they'll realize 100% of people, at some point of their lives, experience harrasement. It's not video games. Its people.
This almost reminds me of the time that one kid on twitter compared tbagging in video games to sexual assault. His wet dream is coming true with this coming past.
it's especially ironic since recently certain ADL members have been very vocal about disliking everything and everyone that looks vaguely Arab (because they could be secret ham*s supporters ofc)
I experienced harassment on a nearly daily basis for years. It got so bad that I became not just racist but violent, radicalized by bad actors in a toxic environment. What was this horrendous environment?
School.
We didn't even have the internet at my house yet.
In my case, gaming was my escapism. I found myself enjoy playing Animal Crossing, despite there were no true goal or gameplay. Surprisingly calming
This is much closer to the truth.
Government Accountability Office 😂😂😂
Oxymoron 😂
"The GAO has investigated the American Government and found no wrongdoing"
They hold the government accountable only I things that don't benefit their lobbyists
GAO should renamed PAO if they continue to ignore their job
So I will say Kira…Roblox has kinda become a cesspit recently where some bad actors prey on minors due to the free and unregulated nature of the game…it’s…not great
Literally ran into nazis and a zoophile on Roblox like a month ago, j can attest to this
Kids are about 1000x more likely to get preyed on by family or people they meet in person. I guarantee there is more unreported physical SA in our public schools everyday than on Roblox for a decade. If you have a kid it your job to protect them, not everyone else. If Roblox has predators, keep them off of it. It's not a reason to classify almost everyone that has played a game as a possible extremist.
Roblox is indeed full of pedophiles and for some reason roblox is willing to sue people for 1.6 million dollars to defend their pedos, but tbh that shit wouldn't exist if cops would step in to every report of adults soliciting minors.
@@liwojenkins Probably. Not my point but probably. My point is that it’s not outlandish that kids could be preyed on in Roblox…
@@Confused_Gaurdian Yeah, in fact its more than likely that an abuser would choose Roblox as a platform of choice to groom or spread hateful ideologies. Lax moderation combined with a large demographic of children makes it an excellent breeding ground for hateful ideas. It'd be way easier for a adult figure to get into contact with a minor and essentially indoctrinate them on Roblox and its easier to convince a 10 year old of something than a 18 year old.
The real issue with Roblox when compared to other kid-focused platforms is the lax moderation while being a platform that focuses on user--generated content. There's numerous videos of people creating blatantly racist or pornographic skins on roblox and the account not being terminated after a report. So if a 10 year old can easily encounter a profile with a pornographic skin with a username like "N- Whore", who's to say that they also won't encounter someone preaching hateful views?
The section on Greek statues is hilarious and the most accurate part about it.
I'm here playing any RPG and not being able to make a singular evil choice without feeling like the worst person alive, have clearly become hate filled through video games
I remember when I started playing Star Wars: The Old Republic and struggled to make evil choices even when playing as a Sith. I basically had to remind myself that making evil choices in a video game isn't a reflection of me as a person and is for the purpose of experiencing all of the story the game offers.
There's actually a study that shows players overwhelmingly choose the more moral choice in rpgs.
Undertale True Pacifist Run
Remind me to my first Strange Journey playthrough. I was playing safe/nice guy and locked into Law path, and found the ending horrible, which make me replay the whole game to get human/ true ending. I'm still annoyed being "too good" lock the path like that
Same here, I can’t make an evil play through without feeling like scum.
Never forget that Call of Duty and Activision as a company gets incentives from the U.S. military to promote its military power and never depicts the United States military as losers and or bad guys for that same reason. It's to be a sort of propaganda for the drafting of troops from players.
Do you know who General Shepherd is?
I think you haven't played ghost
uggh i think you confused some hollywood movies with with COD.
@@bloodwar5005 soap
@@PenguinCrayon269actually, he didn't. It's pretty evident when you look into it.
Maybe more for foreigners
Apparently, playing a game is worse than snorting cocaine in the white house...
Huh... Never would have guessed it...
Well, working in the higher tiers of govnt comes with a free pass for cocaine
Why can’t the government ever just leave anyone alone?
Because if the American People ever realized just how badly they were being treated ON PURPOSE by the government on behalf of corporations and shareholders, there would be a revolt of epic proportions.
They need hosts to leech off of.
@@setojurai not gonna lie, that was way more articulate of a reply than I was expecting. I tip my cowboy hat to your cowboy hat.
@@setojurai oh the people are actually paying attention.
US Government: All gamers are extremists and bloodthirsty psychopaths
Me who wants to make a game where you play on a team of raccoons who steal snacks and shiny things.
racoons are the gateway to real life banditry, that's why sly cooper got secretly assasinated
Who is it easier to blame, the poverty rate, homelessnes, strange new education, nuklear family crisis or maybe video games ... It would be fuuny if it wasn't so sad...
It's video games gosh darn it, not the industrial military complex!
Fun fact that they also want to ban anime, which is totally not being racist against the Japanese.
Uh.. that’s not racist.
It’s stupid, but it’s not racist…
i swear they have so much taxpayer money they dont know what to do with it
Yes they do, its called “giving it all to izrael”
Well they're not wrong, I get EXTREMELY mad whenever I lose THE GAME.
You mother fu... I just lost THE GAME
Lost
That sounds like anger issues on your part. Most people go “COME ON” then feel better 2 seconds later.
@@yyeezyy630 "What the fuck" is my go to.
@@yewtewbstew547 that’s a good one to! Swear words are shown to decrease cortisol levels
It’s a diversionary tactic. Ignore their crap and look at what they’re trying to do in government or behind closed doors. We can’t keep falling for their stupid diversions. We need to work together to end their corruption.
I think they left the door open these days. There's a lot of stuff that they're being super blatant about right before these "moral panic" episodes hit.
If you oppose the powers that be then you are clearly a, '''gamer'''!!!!
They'll just label that "terrorism" too
@@setojurai The government is freaking out because their activist cells meant to seed left politics into male spaces just went up in flames. Gaming is still a bastion for the right since its overwhemingly male dominated which are turning conservative. The freakout from the government is just the left reorganizing and escalating. Extremists are anyone who isn't for the Open Society btw.
Their activist cells meant to seed leftist politics to coopt the gaming space just went up in flames.
I guess Im violent by plaing stardew valley, lmao
We all know stardew is a gateway game.
Today stardew tomorrow it's Armageddon
"Stardew" is just gang slang for cocaine -GAO
@@derrickstorm6976 And Mountain Dew was a slang term for homemade Whiskey and Moonshine at one point.
Nah Nah Nah. Stardew Valley is about Gang Violence. The true game of all that stands over in how it creates the most evil people in mankind: My Friend Peppa Pig
How do you sleep at night?!?!?!?
Minor thing - but you can't really add the percentage of people who have been doxed to the percentage of people who have been swatted because being doxed doesn't preclude you from being swatted - in fact you probably need to be doxed in order to get swatted in the first place. Still don't think those numbers are anywhere close to reality, because I don't have a single friend who has ever been doxed or swatted from playing an online game and if those numbers were correct I should know like a dozen people who have been doxed and/or swatted.
Seriously! I've been online gaming since 1997 and I have not once been doxxed or swatted and I don't know a single person that has. Over the last 30 years I have met thousands of games in clans and individually and never heard a story about that once.
@@liwojenkins It often depends on the shit neighbourhood. I saw a guy once get swatted and he was detained and taken in for attempted arsony and possible murder suspect, then their neighbour went into their now unlocked room and stole money and valuable gear before dipping.
totally agreed kira screwed up his argument by merging the two.
also agree, Common sense would tell you 12% of people getting swatted is nonsensical. Think about how few police officers there are and even fewer swat members. How would there be enough law enforcement to take action.
It doesn't change the point at all but yes, you are correct.
@@jousis_ I know it doesn't change the point, I at least thought I was making it clear that despite that minor error the point was still valid and that I also don't believe those numbers are accurate even if used correctly.
Really good video, still enjoyed it and it’s still hearable but the sound is a little on the quiet side.
Good video mate, always appreciate your stuff.
damn, great vid my guy. and thank you for all the research you did. wow, gg! ❤
The number of times Ive heard lectures about pure aryan bloodlines while playing roblox is uncountable.
These nothing pure about a neanderthal bloodline.
@@Exxperiment626 Which is why they shall remain maidenless forever. Filthy tarnished.
@@Exxperiment626 We are the sons of Yakub, you are but a mere amoeba.
11:30 And yet they don't have an issue with Christianity when "God/the devil made me do it" is also something people claim
actually not true, there's a reason Churches, Mosques, etc are heavily monitored by agencies, its already something they know and deal with you just can't get rid of religion
@mystic_scythe Unless the mentally ill people happen to be blaming video games of course.
Or are you just being edgy and calling religion a mental illness?
If you think any of the people doing this don't have an issue with Christianity you are sorrowfully mistaken.
*Tips fedora*
You sure got 'em good about something that would make sense 15 years ago!
(Please don't make me defend the American government dude... This is an awful take.)
Well crafted and informative. Thank you for your analysis
how do people so out of touch with the world get into those positions
Keep up the regular uploads :)
Gamers are actually some of the coolest, down to earth people you will ever meet.
The US government would absolutely fold under the talk in a mw2 lobby.
When they talk about gaming promoting violence you gotta remember they consider words to be violence.
Words can easily be violent, but that's not the issue.
The issue rather is that for decades (well quite a few more decades than decades honestly) people rather want to blame the "new" thingy that's different for anything, it's also always really specific e.g. rock music, horror movies, games - it's never even all of them at once, it's just the "newest" one - not once in my life have I heard that they'd actually say "we have to ban anything with violence and/or violent tendencies in it", it's just a twisted way to ignore the fact that those issues always existed.
They also consider their side's violence to be peaceful and non prosecutable.
I played GTA as a teenager, im a mad car person and never stolen a car or shot a sex worker
Whether you're on their side on certain issues or not, EVENTUALLY they're coming for ALL of us
They want to silence pro-palestinian population and are using this report as an excuse to do so.
>Anti-Defamation League
>Look inside
>Defamation
Any time I see a video or story about a brawl at a sports game or murder over team rivalry, I like to remind people how videogames cause violence and why can't they just be a normal and socially well-adjusted person who likes sports?
This guy is a voice of reason. Keep it up, good lad. Thank you
But Kira, you can't even spell extremism without MEMES. Clearly they're on to something.
Logical error in adding the the people doxed and the people swatted together. Probably very few to no gamers were swatted without being doxed.
Great video, keep up the good content.
I've been away too long. Feels great to be watching the red headed beauty Kira videos again.
I miss the beard, though lol
lol those ADL numbers.. so ridiculous.
It's their culture to make numbers up
87 percent of people playing video games experienced harassment in video games. That triggers my sense of optimism. You mean that there is a 13 percent chance that I won't be harassed playing a video game? Because IRL, there is a 100 percent chance that all of us will be harassed. Some dick head on the freeway, our boss at work, or some other shitlord in our life. That's why we play games.
and now you are now being harassed by the GAO 😂
As a terminally online 2000s teenager who played way too much gmod, I can absolutely confirm that extremist ideas get spread through certain avenues of gaming.
So the most dangerous things are content creation - freedom of speech, livestreaming - freedom of speech, and memes - freedom of speech.
Kingdom Hearts: "My friends are my power!
US Government: We have a code red security alert! Dangerous message to public safety detected!
Me: This is what happens when a good chunk of the US Congress is deathly allergic to morality.
Let's not forget. These games turn the frogs gay, and the energy drink industry is complicit.
For GAO to recognize that any written language could have the described effect, they would first have to master the difficult skill of "reading". I'm unconvinced - mostly due to this report - that they have that handled. I wouldn't be too surprised if their next report highlighted the immediate threat of people talking to each other about the weather - clear conspirators, those.
Also, the greek/roman thing might be due to the recent-ish trend where various halfwit 'influencers' claimed everyone thinks however often about the roman empire.
Honestly, I probably got harassed just as much working in a grocery store as I did playing games. Where ever you go, jerks will also go.
Sorry I'm watching RUclips videos at work, boss, Kira just dropped!
It's a lot easier to demonise games than it is to stop selling guns to dangerous people.
Or you know... Stop the criminals from getting them illegally.
@@tenebraequeene Nah mate, no guns for you, and more guns for them. Duh.
Kira: "Don't mess with my video games!!" 🤨
i think the statistic at 5:32 makes sense if you apply it to voice chat use. in my experience in competitive games many people who sound feminine or have accents got harassed and had to resort to voice changers or stopped using voice chat altogether
liberal government-authoritarian, conservative government-authoritarian, the choice in democracy is a beautiful thing
They want to silence pro-palestinian population and are using this report as an excuse to do so.
I actually agree meme end up radicalized people, terminally o lime people get straight up propaganda fed to them through meme. Unfortunately stopping memes would just make it worse without a concerted effort of teaching media literacy at a young age.
Memes end up educating people, because the government has been utterly unable to filter or censor them
If you use the term 'media literacy' unironically you're already a lost case.
Getting harassed in online games is a right of passage😂
Thanks for the video. 21Kiloton has a good 2 part videos on this issue also.
This is not a good report...but Kira buried the lede. The report asks FBI and DHS to declare their goals. This is so they stop faffing about with pamphlets and best practice speeches to game companies and social media platforms and actually start helping and to start being held to some sort accountability. Currently, (per this report) the FBI and DHS are already working with the platforms, just with generalized half-set goals which means no one can tell if they are effective or if they are actually solving an issue or not. There is not much on the report about specifically games other than they are a new way of recruitment and information dissemination. (Recall that most of the US Gov't don't know what Steam, TikTok, or Facebook are) I'm mostly bummed cause this is just an emotion piece by Kira. I love a lot of the work he does but in this video I counted a couple of survivorship bias ("I've never seen that," which were counter to my experiences) and he finishes the video with whataboutism. "What about the good things games have done?" This report is not about that. Swing and a miss for someone who works in and follows the game industry. I'd be more forgiving but the report does outline it's goals pretty clearly. Finally, yes, money is spent to do this report, about how the FBI and DHS are already not using funds effectively. Looking forward to the next video, as so many have been fire.
Doesn't change the fact that it's still just an excuse to spy on the public
Finally, the only reasonable comment in this entire comment section.
KiraTV....
Time for an extended break. 😂
The only game I play is Boom Beach. Does that mean I’m going to replicate D-Day in real life? 🤣
6:00 this reminds me of the Dark forest hypothesis in space, but we are doing it online! The internet being space, we keep quiet and to ourselves not wanting to give away information not knowing what is out there.
There are large swaths of gamers that are insane. TF2 is jampacked with looneys.
Mostly its people playing celeste
Just going to say that, although I dissagree with the idea "videogames = evil", believing that griefing, misogyny and racism in games is something to brush off so easily is terrible. I've been part of several online communities that started with ironic consumption of that stuff and eventually people was displaced by others too stupid and ignorant to understand what irony is, and turning those communities into echo chambers for hate speech. Authorities looking into this phenomenon is not that bad a thing, and doing nothing is far worse.
Do you really think the government is going to look at the issue like they stated? Are you naive or dumb? I hope is the former
Grow a thicker skin, otherwise you know where the door is.
Just want to say that I like what you are saying and the way that you are saying it.
"Games, music, TV, movies, are why things are bad, and definitely not harder to tackle, real issues like bad culture, loss of faith in the establishment, fearmongering, and putting the people of my country second." --Any politician trying to get funding or control for something.
jesus dude kira didnt say anything correct and blatantly lies and leaves out information, the whole GAO report was stating that companies need to do more when it comes to communities and gaming adjacent services "assisting" the spread of Radical and Extremist thoughts.
Almost nothing in the report directly attacked gaming, it attacked the gaming and social media industries lack of stopping extremist thought. The Report *literally states social media and gaming can and does lead to positive relationships but that we need to do more to prevent the spread of radical thought*
Underrated comment of the year
To extreme authoritarians moderate freedom appears radical. I don't trust these government agencies are in a good position to judge what is and isn't extreme.
It's still a round about way of blaming video games. Hell even economic instability that these politicians take bribes to create is more of a factor.
@@nolives how is it blaming games when nowhere did it blame games? it blamed almost entirely gaming adjacent media and social media, nowhere did it say gamers or games were the cause of radicals or extremists
@@nicholasbrown668 "gaming adjacent media" is still pointing the finger towards gaming even if not directly and away from their own responsibilities like the economy they take corporate lobbyist money to break. And you know damn well most people past 40 who never touched a game aren't going to be anywhere near as nuanced as you in partitioning the words, they'll just blanketed blame gaming like these bastard politicians want while they get away with way more egregious factors that contribute to this countries further collapse.
But I'm not gonna argue.
As pc gamer I agree with congress and Joe Biden here.
Less than 50% of gamers over all age groups have experienced trolling or griefing in online games? It makes me sad to know that more than 50% of gamers are dirty liars....
Just another attempt to deflect from the real issue, nothing new here.
Well, I mean, gamers aren't exactly known for seeing the bigger picture if you ask me. Why do you think Game companies like Valve, Epic, EA, Take Two, Konami, Sony, Capcom, Activision Blizzard, Ubisoft, and Bethesda keep getting away with half finished and buggy releases? Gamers will just blindly consoom.
Granted I am no saint, but christ all mighty, see the bigger picture and long term consequences people. At least with that, MAYBE gamers might get SOME shred of decency back....
Yeah
Many of those bugs are caused by crunch and deadlines that are untenable. More unionization and less crunch, plus people waiting a bit longer for a game, might make things better. And publishers and developers should stop being like they were with anthem - trying to chase a trend which would never net them much money in the first place.
Why Are you blaming the developers of said games. They only try to do what the higher ups tell them to do. It's their job. I'd say the blame is on the higher ups of said game company's. But I will say this. Mafia 3 was a buggy mess on launch. But they did fix it at least overtime
I reckon there's an argument to be made that multiplayer lobbies allow a bad actor to easily address a large audience, and quickly move on to the next lot if no one bites. That's not the game's fault, it's merely the modern day equivalent of walking up to group of kids and ask "who wants to earn a few bucks for throwing a stone in my neighbour's window?"
That said, if that argument were to be used, it must be juxtaposed by the question "how many decent friendships and great ideas came from the same game?"
Not sure the maths check out on that, but it'll paint less one-sided picture at least.
Funny though that the GAO struggles with the definition of accountability... by which I mean it's sad there's an institution that defies the concept of parental supervision and responsibility...
Solid vid, as per
GAOs whole point in the report was that companies and streaming services need to do more to prevent extremist thoughts and communities from spreading on their platforms, its not attacking gamers its attacking the ability games and social media give to extremists to spread quickly
at 15:42 he fails to mention that the report stated extremists are more likely to use messaging services than games to recruit, Kira is lying for views
Even just skimming the report shows how demonstrably false the premise of this video is. Outrage bait from a creator I used to respect. Sad.
Didn’t he already cover the report on his 2nd channel? You may want to watch that before you jump to conclusions.
Yeah I was already about to get really mad until I actually opened up the paper. I am not sure where Kira is taking the channel but this is a disingenuous premise and he should know better.
Govt shills out here on the video so fast
The whole point of the video is to make the report look stupid. What video did you guys watch?
How much is the ADL paying you, shlomo?
Not feeling this one dude. You just kinda threw out stuff like "They're using just trolling and bad names as 'offensive names'" without any kind of evidence to back up that claim. This whole thing just felt like someone going "nuh uh!" rather than trying to provide evidence based reasoning.
Yeah, this
I looked at some articles about the data organizations like the FBI have on swatting in the US. From 2017 to 2019, there were about 1000 swatting events a year. The number jumped up in 2020, but the figures were 'quadrupled' so we can assume that it was around 4000 for that year. Another article in January of this year said that there had been 500 swatting incidents "since May" so sounds like it leveled off back to 1000 a year. So from 2017 to now, theres been about 10k-18k total swatting incidents. Did someone carry a decimal incorrectly? How do you get 10 MILLION from that?
No accounting for accountability...
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Who asked the GAO to do this....
Kinda disappointed, kira. Lots of misrepresentation of the report. No one is "going after" gamers or games. They just recognize it as a factor for some incidents. I dont why you are twisting the report to fit your narrative.
Really Kira, Kiwi Farms = evil? You do pretty good analysis videos, KF is just an unfiltered gossip forum, nothing more and certainly not some kind of internet villain some people make it out to be
He always tows the middle of the road establishment messaging
I'm not the most knowledgeable in this, but the more extremist people will gravitate to unfiltered forums on the basis that they get banned for posting extreme things on more filtered sites.
I vaguely point at the "Donald group" starting on reddit and eventually moving to 8 Chan via 4 Chan because of violations of terms of service.
TLDR: you're right Kiwi farms isn't evil, but arseholes feel safe postings there.
@@DarranKern Who would have thought.