How Colonialism Created Mbappe and Zidane, Explained
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Kylian Mbappe, Riad Mahrez and William Saliba. These are some of the best players in the world, and they all happen to come from the same place. Paris.
But this is not the Paris you're imagining - these are the Banlieues. Salem visits the suburbs of the Paris region to find out why these neighborhoods produce football superstars.
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Hosts: Salem Barahmeh
Producer: PTA
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Editor: Tala Kaddoura
Special thanks: Lionel, Lizz-Marie, Kylian, Nadia and the whole 130 World Cup tournament organizing team, Rajâa Moussadik, Ines Seddiki (Ghett’Up), and the people of Montereau-Fault-Yonne.
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Please don't forget that in North Africa precisely, there are not only arab people but BERBERS (or IMAZIGHEN) people. And Zidane is a very good illustration of that point (since he's actually from Kabylia).
I think there are more IMAZIGHEN than Arabs in North Africa.
So the berbers were colonised by arabs
Yes, I found it ridiculous when he said "Zidane looked like us" , refering to the middle east arabs, while Zidane is a blonde berber with white skin and blue eyes.
@@fhirvhdyg5gjyefhitzaphgbiu748 I'm sorry, but this was more of a cultural comment than a racial one.
@@fhirvhdyg5gjyefhitzaphgbiu748i think you’re confusing Zidane for griezmann
This reminds me of the Samba style coming out of Brazil. Tough conditions creating a burst of evolution and exciting play, producing some of the best players in the world. But that's not the main story here, is it? Humanity, community, survival, identity, and above all; a demand for equal rights and respect. It's not a lot to ask for, and it shouldn't take becoming the greatest football player on the planet to get it. Thanks for this piece.
Well said, Bravo
Most intelligent and true comment here. Instead of being binary like most of the comments, the reality in France is not all bad or all good when it comes to Les Banlieues. Yes it's a consequence of colonialism. But the vast majority of the ancestors of these people came to France because it was their choice. As the father of Kopa came from Poland, father of Platini from Italy, Djorkaeff Armenia, Pires Portugal and Lloris from Spain. They all wanted ti escape poverty and sometimes dictature. Now these neighbourhoods had all these origins mixed until 30 years ago. But little by little it concentrated people mostly with African origins and muslims. That's the opposite of a social mix. France is not a racist country but it's a country with racism. Meaning that all the laws and administration of France is everything but racist. Nevertheless they are not always treated with equality and they need to work twice harder or more compare to a kid from a average part of Paris.
Remember the shocking and racist statement from Trevor Noah after the 2018 Football world cup victory of France: he said that these kids were not French but Africans. Meaning that the nationality of someone only refers ti the color of their skin. Terribly racist from someone who pretend to fight racism. Just a day after that many French players rejected this statement and insisted on the fact that it's the opposite: they were born and raised in France, they feel French and this is what their families fought for : to be considered as French citizens.
The social model in France is the opposite of Anglo-Saxon countries model : it's not community model but "assimilation". Meaning that if you come to France, in order to be integrated, the society expects from you to be #1 French citizen in your everyday life in public, with the pride yo belong to this or that city or region. Your community should not be the first thing that defines you. It should come after being a French citizen. It should come in private life. It's an ambitious model but it's by far the most humanist and equal when it works because your are considered not for your color of skin but for the fact that you're a human being like any other. Unfortunately it doesn't always work that way as we know and as we can see in this documentary. Indeed, Les Banlieues have less jobs, more crime, less social mix, more poor families with often a decomposed family (single mothers), they have less state services such as police. The solution will necessarily comes from much more social mix where France will push for these people to live in neighbourhood where they will be part of the mix of French habitants instead of being parked by communities. Denmark is currently doing it ! For 1 Killian Mbappé, how many kids from these Banlieues will not become a professional sport player and will loose faith in their future within the French society. It's on us to mix them with the rest of French society and allow them to work hard to become doctors, judges, lawyers, artists, senior managers and scientists. Vive la France 🇫🇷 et vive la mixité sociale.
@@edefournaspas vraiment
African technique is better than samba
@edefournas so why people loves failures ?
On the field, they're French. On the streets, they're foreigners. Trevor Noah has a bit online about it after receiving an angry letter from the French. It's on point and hilarious.
Depends who you ask. For me they are not french, on or off the field. Foreigner is not a correct term for them, since they are born in France.
@@MtiuliBichiI have a question for you: what was Napoleon?
Depend who you ask. Even among French from migrant ascendant. You can see Algerian descendant with a French nationality affirming that Zidane is Algerian, only Algerian.
For lot of other French from all kind of ascendance, he is a beautiful representation of France, with mixed origins that came together.
For other, he is the horrible representation of nowadays France, a place who forget its roots and welcome to many migrants.
And all those people are French ... societies are complex...
No, it wasn't. He said "Africa won the World Cup," which means that he thinks black people aren't really French. White people are constantly criticized for supposedly treating minorities that they aren't really citizens of their country, when in fact, non-white minorities take every opportunity to claim they aren't really "French" in this example but really whatever their ethnic origin is. The French treated all the players like normal French citizens, but Trevor Noah couldn't wait to claim the victory for Africa.
All the Moroccan players were from Europe and refused to play for their real countries.
As an American this reminds me of local community basketball tournaments that happen all the time in underdeveloped and impoverished communities. They’ve become cultural touchstones of local communities and places like Rucker Park have become a part of basketball culture. Hopefully these local tournaments can have the same impact.
Hardship creates community and character. That's why basketball, or just black american culture as a whole is so dominant world wide without us knowing. They come from an environment where your forced to be human in a way because thats all you can do. And culture eventually comes from tight knit humans
The fact that they added a Palestine team is beautiful!
Why is that beautiful?
Because they're denied the right to exist by a military apartheid that doesn't acknowledge their existence???
It was always there they just never qualified. Now they automatically qualify
Because its a trend....
@@bigtex1238because they need representation with what’s going on
“This is not the fake liberal multiculturalism. This is real, forged in very tough circumstances, born out of colonialism.” (1:00) That really got me 🙏❤️
Zidane is from Marseille never EVER say that he is Parisian.
😂😂😂
True that
Zidane also is extremely white passing. Ask any random person who doesn’t know football what race Zidane is and they will say white
@@bjehulk It’s not the point of the comment. Marseille is a city in southern France.
@@bjehulkI guess it depends from person to person😂 I look extremely “Arab” and I get confused for that often, but I’m super white skinned, and I’m born and raised in Mexico To Moreno and a Güera, and I’ve never been seen as “white” phenotype is more important imo
You can actually trace French immigration in the National Football team way earlier than Zidane and Mbappé. In the 1958 Wrold Cup, one of the front men Raymond Kopa scored 11 goals with the French team (a record still standing today for a single competition)... his real last name: Kopaszewski, from Polish decent; his parents immigraed to France in the 1920s. And the 80s French captain, and dominant figure in European football at the time, who lost twice in the semi-finals to Germany in 82 and 86 (and won the EUropean CHampionship in '84) was Michel Platini, from Italian decent.
Tu confonds Kopa avec Just Fontaine et c’était 13 buts d’ailleurs. Pour le reste tu as 100% raison
@@edefournas Merci! En effet petite confusion... jsp pourquoi je suis parti dans cette digression; d'autant plus que je voulais indiquer qu'il avait été capitaine et ai oublié!
It just goes to show that ethnic Frenchmen aren’t genetically good at football so they have to import foreigners to win tournaments
Most of the North africans are Amazigh and Zidane is Kabyle for example, the indigenious ethnic groups in north africa. Not Arab. Sometimes they even don’t speak Arabic, but their indigenious languages. The countries in north Africa are mostly linguistically Arab, not ethnical. Because of arabization during the expansion of the arab world they speak arabic
I'm riffian amazigh and white asf my mom has Green eyes and dark orange hair
@kayn6858 yes
@kayn6858that’s why you educate people about that
Bessaha! My cousin is blond & blue eyes & his an Arab born & raised from Casablanca . @@Marocinoriffino
Actually there are Arabs in North Africa. Over many centuries since the Islamic conquest of North Africa , Many Arab tribes came into North Africa. Its why today you see regions where Amazigh people live and other where Arabs live but keep in mind there also has been intermarriage between the two by many people.
You missed a major point you could’ve made about colonialism. The French colonial model is still in place because France is essentially robbing these African countries of their resources (in this case top class footballers) and using them to benefit themselves.
What? They were born, raised, trained in France. Some of them don't have one but multiple cultural origin. MBappe for example has ascendants from Camroun, Algeria (kabyle). His mother was born in France and has always had French nationality.
Does the colonialism has an influence on them coming to France? Very probably, yes.
But their ancestors came on their own volition to France, they have the French nationality and they refer to themselves as French.
And you know what? Those kind of things, countries inviding other places to have a bigger influence and to make profit, it happened forever and not only from occidental countries. I hear none complaining about lasting influences of grecs, roman empire, ottoman empire...
Reflex on that: why so many countries speak an arabic language? Because they where invaded by a arabic speaking colonizers!
The history of European construction is just a series of reciprocal invasions (roman, germanic tribes, vikings, normands...) that ended making countries as they are now.
Same in Maghreb:
-Phenicians coming for trade,
-Romans invading numidian territories, berbere territories, Mauretanian kingdom
-Vandales invasions
-Mahomet descendants and muslims from arabia invading the rest of bizantin empire, the Berber kingdoms etc...
-all the history of wars, alliances that came after for centuries
-the Ottoman invasion
-the slow emergence of nations
-the French, Italian and Spanish invasions...
Our histories are complex and interwoven, we cannot think just putting "bad guys" and "good guys" labels on people from the past.
Does that make it all good? Dunno, probably not.
That does not absolve my French ancestors for their greed for territories or their pride that made them think their culture was superior, nor that absolve big occidental companies that are messing up some countries or environment to gain money nowadays.
But that's just means this terrible truth: lot of people are driven by their greed and pride, everywhere in the world from forever.
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I actually heavily agree with your point here, especially with the fact that you can’t just carelessly label “good guys and bad guys” when looking at the past. However, what I was trying to say was that if this video was going to say that colonialism is the reason why France has all these ethnically non French players playing for the National Team, and that it should be viewed in a positive light for French diversity or whatever, you can easily view it from the other angle. If you want to apply this leftist (and misguided) definition of colonialism where it’s always a negative thing, the natural conclusion would be that France’s colonial system is still in place as they are technically robbing Africa of their resources still, in this case, top class footballers.
@@cd7383I don’t agree with this. In history there were bad guys and good guys. The difference is in colonization it’s not just the taking of land it’s the taking of the minds and wanting the people of the land to follow their way
I started watching football because of Zidane. For me it was Euro 2000. It feels just like it was yesterday. Time flies like crazy 😭😭
I will always remember euro 04 France vs England bcos of zidane, that’s the only game I remember but World Cup 06 man that’s when I remember fully zidane took the tournament in his own hands
Zidane is my GOAT.
@@researchBuilding7 me too
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I'm Arab Moroccan and so proud of my people. Long live Africa
Moroccans are not arabs, arab is just anoth aspect of north african colonialism.
If you want to know why, ask Mesut Ozil. He will tell you how DFB felt about him.
Yep. And Saka for England. I think we just have to accept that racism will always exist
@nadk8886 I think it is quite the contrary. We should NOT accept it. Accepting it as a given will only allow it to continue and spread.
Rather, we should avocate for more open mindedness, less racism.
@@wora2965 yes I absolutely agree
Imagine if all the french players played for their original countries
@@swann67000 ye just imagine if all of the athletes played for their countey
Imagine if all the Argentinians players play for Italy or Germany.
@@gabbar51nghNo fool, because Argentina was a colony just like African colonies, France instead is a colonialist country
@@lucianocoacci2129 Doesn't change the fact the players aren't native to Argentina, you dolt. They're Europeans.
Same goes for African players in France. You can't have it both ways.
@@lucianocoacci2129 ask what happened to the natives in argentinia the currently argentinians décent from colonizers
Legendary French players Just Fontaine , Raymond Kopa , and Michel Platini , were offspring of foreign immigrants.
Fontaine.was born in Morrocco , Kopa was the child of Polish immigrants , and Platini , the child of Italian immigrants.
Marius Trésor , and Lillian Thuram , came from the Caribbean , Jean Tigana , from Mali , and Marcel Desailly , from Ghana.
They all grew up in France , and were nurtured with French education and culture.
The same goes with Zidane and Mbappé.
France has been a melting pot long before football became the country's national sport.
So, do ethnic and cultural FRENCH people do anything at all in France? Are they banned from lower class activities? 😂
I like the Argentinian chant! 😂on point!
You are stupid no surprise.
Yes they are right but what does that has to do with them winning a copa against Colombia i don’t see the link it’s like French players doing a song about Argentinians being Europeans immigrant after winning a euro
@@Z4K11funny thing is that most of argentine players have european decents😅
Greetings from the banlieues. Great video
You guys voted for Macron!
@@FierDetreFrancais1 t'es pas bien recardé, toi. Ceci dit à ton avatar et ton pseudo il y avait des indices, déjà.
@@alexkrill2617 Abruti!
T'es pathetique.
@@alexkrill2617 calcule-le même pas, il mérite pas ton temps
High quality video mate. Keep it up!
The most astonishing thing about colonialism and slavery is that it's still going on, albeit with more refined modus operandi. Not to mention the perpetrators of the worst atrocities in the world have become, gasp, moral police of the world. 6:24 Ines Seddiki put it eloquently; they don't live the birth of non-White French. This is also on a global level: if you were victim of colonialism or the most heinous cruelty of humanity (Slavery), then you will be on back foot. At some point, you have to surmise that they are predisposition to domination and subjugation of Black & Brown people.
Well, being French I can see that you're kinda missing the issue.
A) France is built on an ideal that wishes to take on communitarism and religious hegemony by creating a universalistic model, which is easier said than done. A lot of countries like the US or the UK have clearly given up.
B) The Left and the Right both paint a very stereotypical picture of the banlieues, either overly victimized or overly criminalized. I can expand on that if needed.
En vrai je ne pense pas qu'ils pourraient comprendre vu les commentaires ici, fin bref ce débat deux d'une grande importance :
1- Les gens qui ont ce genre de discours, n'ont aucune connaissance du football (t'aurais un minimum de connaissances, t'aurais pas ce genre de réflexion limitée)
2- Ils n'ont aucune connaissance du pays, culturellement et politiquement parlant mais surtout historiquement, la France à toujours eu des "étrangers" (comme ces gens là le pensent) pour la représenter.
This was such an eye opening video. Honestly zizou best exemplified this spirit both in his Real Madrid volley as well as the headbutt in 2006. 🙌🏾🐔✊🏾
Fans are 99 % white English’s and French, their teams are > 60 % from former colonies.
Very clever trick by the European colonial looters !
Yeah, just look at CFA Franc or what they wanted from Haiti.
Beautiful storytelling
Zidane does not look at all Arab. People forget that Arabs colonized land too which is why you a million phenotypes under the "Arab" umbrella. North West Africans do not look Arab when you put them besides a Qatari, Saudi, Yemeni.. There are exceptions to the rule but the average phenotype in Morocco and Algeria is not Arabid.
Tunisian and Lybian as well are not genetically arabs! We don't look like the arabs from the gulf.These people look like Indians and Pakistanis
@@hajarelijah9965arab is just an umbrella term, it is probably not the best term to describe. However in tunisia at least people don t look the same you can find gulf looking people as well as european etc etc...tunisia is a cultural salad.
Zinedine Zidane doesn't look like you, and his name doesn't sound Arabic either, he's Kabyle, an indigenous ethnic group in Algeria, colonized by Arabs and still live under a pan arabist government, there's colonialism on your side too, just saying..!
.....je n'ai pas vu d'arabe en Algérie. ..sortez de votre trou et allez visitez ce grand pays...
Ouvrez 1 livre d'histoire svp...
Zine eldine zidane not arab name?
So you telling me arabs are not indigenous inn algeria? How many centuries does an ethnic group has to stay in a particular place to be called indigenous
@@Certified-k4j Arabs are not indigenous. Arabs are from Arabia not Africa. They will never be indigenous unless they drop the name Arab. National Geographic says "We commonly refer to an Indigenous person as an individual from a group that has lived in a particular location for thousands of years"
@@algeriality5815 If a man from Senegal names his child Jackie Chan does that make him Chinese? Mexican Catholics use Arab names as well, does that make them Arab?
Zidane is unmatched.
Bless his beautiful Soul 🙏🏿
yooo ! avid viewer of your channel ! can't believe you came right next to where i live lol
Zidane is amazigh
And amazing too
First time i come across this channel, great content. 🇵🇸
Great Video!
Pan-Arabism is also a form of colonialism
They only see colonialism bad when it was done to them. When they do it to others they're bring "civilization" or "freeing the people"
Yes it's stupidity.
We trusted nationalism and discarded the ummah.
Today we are sheep.Plenty but weak and Israel is the wolf.
Kudos. For those fighting the ottomans you made the generation today a sheep because you wanted to drink wine.
especially while talking about French players of North African descent. The vast majority of them are Amazigh and have very few links with Arab culture.
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I've been waiting months for a new video!!
Timestamps:
2:56 / 4:51 Reason #1
6:04 / 7:39 Reason #2
8:17 / 8:41 Reason #3
Great content. You deserve much more subscribers, keep up the good work.
The timing of this… even though it was 4 days earlier is hilarious. Enzo better watch out lol.
The same could be argued for England, but they aren't as good as the French team by a mile
True! Belgium, England, Swiss, Canada, Holland have minorities too but they LOSE! Only France WIN!
It really couldn't. There's no Arabs ot Asians in the England team.
Waaaaaaw, i love you're work (sorru my english is not very good)
great video. just earned a subscriber
Since when North Africans are arabs! Zidane or Benzema both are amazigh from Kabylie in Algeria and none of them can speak arabs! Show us some respect!
Indigenous north Africans are berbers and moors.. they got much darker skin.. similar to Ethiopians and Somalis.. Zidane is white arab with blue eyes cmon.. he looks likes he's from Iran or turkey. Same with benzema. Real north Africans are black. Take a look a t Algeria goalkeeper. Everyone else cmon Arabia.. that includes countries like Tunisia, Egypt, Libya and morroco.
A noter que les centres de formations au football en France sont très communautaire et qu'il est presque impossible de percer pour un blanc qui sera très vite écarté.
Bah non, des blancs qui percent, c'est pas ce qui manquent. A l'inverse, on voit moins de français d'origine maghrébine dans l'équipe de France en ce moment.
Par contre, si tu veux parler d'un vrai communautarisme problématique, on peut mentionner les derniers propos racistes tenu par je ne sais plus quel rugbyman.
@@huriale1617 non c'est faux mais c'est improuvable sauf que tout le monde le sait dans les centres de formations. Avoir une équipe noire est une volonté politique.
Totalement faux, qu'est ce que tu fumes ?
@@H1nted je travaille à l'office municipale du sport et je connais des tas d'entraîneurs de football...des tas de blancs sont ostracisés et mis sur le banc de touche et finissent par changer de sport ou de se barrer en Espagne par exemple.
@@H1nted Après les noirs subissent aussi du racisme dans les médias et en politique donc je ne critique personne. On appelle cela le racisme latent ou discriminant.
6:20 This is a complete and utter lie. All french residents have access to the same healthcare system.
I think the point they were trying to make is not that they do not have access to healthcare, but rather how the interaction with healthcare differ from person to person and how racial and sexual background may influence one one or another how it is carried out.
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That’s also not true as well. The issue here is the failure of multiculturalism. There will be always be inequalities between various ethnicities and peoples because they are inherently different.
@@bjehulkit is true black people are treated differently from certain nurses...so i dunno what you are yapping about
@@H1nted
If anything, they are treated better
Zidane doesn't look arab at all he's kabyle so looks white and the name Zidane sounds berber kabyle, not arab
Berber are north Africans so they aren't white
He looks North African not french and his name clearly doesn't sound french
He doesn't, do you know that some kabyle are really white? @@konstantinosdragasespalaio4178
. Look as an algerian....
.".zidane " is mood of classical music of algeria - born in Al Andalus 8 &9 century...it's not kabyle..
Zidane est un Algérien. QUE ÇA VOUS PLAÎT OU NON CEST UN FAIT
Look at England also ! The windrush families who were rebuked and denied their rights now have their grandsons playing and taking the three lions to a higher place . Redemption I guess !
What rights were they denied?
Everyone arguing here without praising this guys work! Wow, an excellent upload, perfectly edited and explained. Thank you sir. Just wish it was longer lol. Also the lovely well educated lady speaking English should be an idol to all the young women from her demographic 🙏🏼 love from London
Ambition, and determination to get out of the slums with drive anyone to be the best.
The argentine chant is correct
Great video, except Zidane is not an Arab sounding name since he’s Amazigh, and he didn’t grew up in a parisian suburb but in the North of Marseille
It is an arab sounding name. Zine is an arabic word. Din is an arabic word. It is ine of the most arabic names ever.
Players should play for their background nation. French team is all African.. one day China will also have an all African team and people can pretend they’re “Chinese”
I understand where you're coming from, but think about this in action. What if, like a growing amount of people in the West, you have roots in more than one nation? What if you don't speak the language of your 'background nation'? What if you prefer to play for the place where you were raised? As it currently stands, a lot of players have the choice of which team they want to play for, and I think that's how it should be
@@freeston1 that’s a good point for sure, but we do start to go down this slippery slope. It’s just interesting to see a national team that is supposed to represent a distinct group of people such as France, and they’re all African. If the Cameroon team was all white people, guarantee you people would say something. I respect people like Mahrez who chose to play for his people as well as Kevin Boeteng when they could have played for France and Germany. Then you have Gundogan and Ozil who are obviously Turkish.. It’s something that cannot be solved really, but it will eventually lead to every team in Europe being African and middle eastern, killing the true national spirit for these tournaments in the first place.
@@nemanjapetrovic4566 It has nothing to do with skin colour. No one forced them to play for their european nationality and no one forced their parents/grand-parents to move to Europe... I also respect Mahrez and such for choosing their parents' country but the fact is that, when you were born and raised in one country, you have that culture (and you can have two cultures for that matter).
Do you think the same about Switzerland and Austria whose players come from the Balkans? Australia, USA, Canada, England...
@@stephanelk7930 it depends, if some players may not know what their ancestry is because because they were brought to England or Portugal through slavery centuries ago. This is different. Saka, Rudiger and Gundogan know fully well where they’re from.
I am Balkan and I feel the same way still. Players like Arnautovic and even Ibrahimovic should have played for a Balkan nation.
Countries like the US are built on immigration and they have no true ethnic identity (Unless you’re native)
Switzerland is a country that sort of exists for no reason as it is just a mix of French and Germans. Xhaka and Shaquiri are not “Swiss” they are ethnic Albanians and should play there.
Players like Kovacic and Rakitic were born in Germany and Austria I believe but they chose to play for Croatia. Luka Jovic is from Bosnia but plays for Serbia.
At the end of the day. If you know where your roots are then you should represent your true people. Zidane is not French, he is Algerian.. eventually there will be no point for nations and just wear different colored jerseys because France is no longer French.
Btw, a couple foreign players here and there is not crazy. But not 95% of the team like France
@@nemanjapetrovic4566 Let's agree to disagree then :D You seem to be scared of the world, but people have been moving from places to places for thousands of years.
Who are your true people should be your choice. If someone has never been to his grand parents' country and doesn't speak the language, why should they be forced to play for that country...
I've never met someone who thinks like you. This is interesting! Peace
Born in France is not immigrant, some BASICS here
They are treated as immigrants and not seen as French by mainstream white French society
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Yea it’s almost as if there is a distinct French ethnicity and everyone can visibly see these people aren’t French. It’s like putting a dude in a dress. Everyone can see he’s a guy
@@bjehulkwhat do you mean visibly again ?
@@H1nted
These players have very obvious physical and cultural features which are not explicitly not French. You can very easily tell a Russian is not Chinese just like you can easily tell a Senegalese is not French
3:45 I dont understand that kids who are born in France just don't say they are french. They say there are from wherever their parents are from.
They are not considered French by the french people that's why. They wouldn't dare to say they are french because of the backslash. The same thing happens in the UK and it's such weird concept for me cause I'm from Brazil where everyone is so mixed and with different backgrounds but we are all brazilians regardless as long as you are born there.
@Lucas-qr7ul so why it felt as a threat of culture
Please realize that the event they’re participating in is the "Banlieues’ world cup" so they are repping for their other country.
We are all French here, and many of us have ties to another country, that doesn’t mean they don’t see themselves as French.
@@annieranai2198 ??
@@lexkanyima2195 They were doing a competition between the people with the same origins ( like Cameroon, Cote D'Ivoire, Algeria) so in this instance they will say that they are from there
This was how Brazilian domination in football began also
It's the same concept but a bit different in Brazil as we have always been a colony who received people from all over the world. The favelas would be the same as Les Banlieues in France I guess, but in Brazil the favelas are a consequence of social inequality and they are structured according to social class and not racial background unlike in France.
@@Lucas-qr7ul just as how the banlieues are a product of social and economic inequality. They are literally no different
@@Lucas-qr7ul aren’t the favellas overwhelmingly populated by black and brown peoples?
@@Lucas-qr7ulin France banlieues are populatwd of poor people, lile in Brazil.
Rich Arabs and rich Africans dont love in banlieues. And poor white French live in banlieus too.
@@pierrek5260 true
I appreciate the message of this video.. but I’m sorry to say that “no-go” zones are actually a real thing.
Great great docu, deserves millions of subscribers
With due respect to the youtuber, great work. Enjoyed the video. However, the video seemed a bit slow in nature to me.
what a beautiful video-relevant in light of argentinian comments too. i didn’t know anything about this and i think it’s so interesting.
As a French who worked for years in those areas, it is a very partial take that miss the point on a lot of realities.
Love all your videos ❤
Zidane and Mbappe's Mother are KABYLE ! They are amazigh the autochtones of North Africa and not Arabs!
why are you calling north Africans arabs ?
Cannot those Rich Footballers who came from here build Schools and Hospitals in Return?
Great content, Inés Seddiki mentioned a book, is it possible to get the title?
Mathieu Rigouste, L'ennemi intérieur : La généalogie coloniale et militaire de l'ordre sécuritaire dans la France contemporaine, La Découverte, 2009 (dk if it was translated)
France knew in Western Europe alone that they had to beat Germany, Italy, England, Netherlands amongst others, and that is just the west, Russia was always very formiddable. Add in Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay et al into the mix of a World Cup format and France knew then that they needed heavy re-enforcements in order to be ranked where they are.
Michel Platini and Rocheteau amongst others one of the better generations did the best they could against stiff competition, they were a little short (no pun intended) and loaded up raw speed and height.
Great video
great work!!
This was an interesting cultural visit. I think your points would have hit harder if the piece had been explored and presented with some more science/data rather than inferences.
Vous faites du très bon travail,,,Voir cette diversité me fait encore espérer qu'un jour le racisme disparaîtra et que les gens se valoriseront de manière égale et s'entraideront avec sincérité. Une belle vidéo et ça fait vraiment plaisir de voir tous ces jeunes faire du sport ensemble et concourir dans des activités sportives.
Ca va pas marche
2:20 maybe bc of what the North African troops were allowed to do during "liberation"
Or maybe because the army coming from the African colonies arrived from Italy and the Mediterranean débarquement, followed the Rhone valley to reach Alsace and the Rhein Valley !
You want maybe to spoke of what the russians were doing in Berlin ?
Or what the americans were doing both in Italy and even in France ?
Or of what the nazis and the fascists were doing on their occupied territories ?
Also, “liberation” is funny way of describing the Allies bombing the France to pieces, killing thousands of innocents all while destroying one of the last genuinely Catholic states in human history (Vichy France).
The title is crazy, lmao😭😭
Why doy you put Nahel in this video? ....
Oh I can’t wait to watch this with my partner ❤🎉
“The most worldclass talent anywhere” in “your” world not the real one 😂😂😂😂
Actually, during the 2022 World Cup, Paris area was the most represented region, above São Paulo
if I were Nacer AL khelifi I would drop a 1M euro every now and then to the streets
Better to go to Algeria. Many kids in algeria are insanely good
That's absolutely nonsense.
What about Platini , Grizman , and Giroud . They are sons of European immigrants ?
Were they also created by colonialism ?
What about Messi and Di Maria, who are grandchildren of Italian immigrants to Argentina?
Were they also created by colonialism ?
I know why you're saying that Zidane and mpappy were created by colonialism. The reason is you're from North Africa and you wanted Zidane to play for your national team and you're upset with the fact he played for France not for your country.
Nice try but he’s not North African.
Yep messi and di maria are results of colonialism. If italy didn t go to argentina we wouldn t have messi nor di maria...
Top episode top production 🔝🔝
But why than they Play for the France national team if they confront with all this Racism.. why they not choose than play for there Country of origin too pay 🔙 !!! What they went thru
Att 3:10 those people are West Indians, but y'all always ignore them
Hi, how my team can inscribe the next cup in saint denise?
"Sharia Law"? In France? WTF are you talking about??
He is saying that people think there is sharia law -> when in actuality it is just a myth...you need to re watch the video brother
What's the meaning of Shariah Law? Know what means first before typing
As someone who worked for years (12) in French banlieue, I agree disagree with some takes and disagree with others.
I am a French woman with European ancestors, who grow up in another environment, so I cannot understand from an internal point of view what it is to be a migrant descendant in France. As a migrant myself now, I can tell you that fear or prejudices of those who came from far, who look different, whose culture is different, it is difficult to receive but so natural. It takes time to learn, to know, to accept that what we cannot understand his not automatically bad. And it goes both ways.
You cannot see the banlieue in France without trying to understand the relations with all French territories.
There are politics made for banlieue, especially in education. For example, they tried to have fewer students in first and second year of primary school to help in language and literacy acquisitions among populations that might have few support at home because of language barrier... Most of those politics had few to no results (for ex, even with years of politics for creation of job opportunities, the unemployment rate stayed very high). I don't know why, I didn't do an analysis.
But this created an illusion that lot of French public money is spent on those territories and form of resentment for some in the countryside, where schools and hospitals close, where there is very few investments from the public institutions etc... (You can look for "diagonale du vide" for takes about those coutryside territories). That doesn't help with the idea that migration is not taking money from "old French", feeding fear of migrants and migration. While in the same time, youth in banlieue can feel trapped in a territory made of high not always well maintained buildings, few personal space, no jobs...
Those territories are also a place of creativity, cultural exchanges... when it is possible. Sadly, some of those banlieue are invaded by drug traffic and the delinquency that comes with it. And sadly, this is what comes in the news, not the good things. That continue to feed prejudices.
Police violence exists, this is a thing that we need to fight. In the same time, some complaints came from situations that implied real criminals or delinquents. Do they loose their rights to true justice? No, absolutely not. Do that justify police molesting someone? No. Is it justified to create riots attacking innocent people when a delinquent dies try to escape the police? Mmm, not sure.
For the Islam in France, problems are
1. "laicité à la française" is a very very restrictive way of seeing the public expression of religious belief, and that lot of French people imagine that it is the only way to live in a secular society. In this vision, faith is something absolutely private that should never be expressed in a public space in any way, especially school. As a Catholic, I suffered from this, and discovering in the country where I live for now another way of living in a secular society was liberating. But I could deal with it as I grew in it and it didn't impact the core of the expression of my faith in my life. But now, for people who came from place where public expression of faith where ok, when some of them think that their faith implies some very visible signs... it can create a big cultural clash from both sides. Not automatically, I had lots of friends or colleagues who found a way that fell satisfying for them to live their Muslim faith, but it is a possibility.
2. Media loves clashes, it sells. So when said before clashes happen, they oversell them. Among people who know few to no Muslims, some now believe that all Muslims are against French society values.
3. There is a real problem with Islamic extremism in France. There had real horrible consequences, terrorist attacks. Those consequences impact also the vast majority of Muslims that are not at all in those extremist movements and totally disapprove. It is very visible, while moderation is not, creating the illusion among some non Muslims that whole Islam is this.
Some second or third generation of migrant descendants do refuse to identify as French. Why? That need a comprehensive analysis, thing that contemporary media do not do. They love oversimplified views and stigmatisation (or "bad migrant descendant who hate France, migration is bad", or "horrible society that oppress migrant descendants"), when real life is full of nuances and shared responsibilities.
Ethnic prejudices and hate are sadly a reality. This is real from "old French" people, this is also real among migrants or migrant descendants. It can behe most violent takes against black Africans I've heard where from arabic typed North African descendants, the most awful assumption about the Asian country I live now was from a friend from Ivory Cost. Some expressions of that are disdain, when it came from a doctor or a nurse assuming things about you because of your skin tone, it can kill.
It is a threat
Just sh**t the f up
You write well but you think bad. You say that you can’t understand in your nasty text. You can understand but you have to rethink from the start. You are watching to much bfm tv. Go search for true information, from the colonial era to modern immigration. You French have a lot of responsibility but you doesn’t want to accept it
My first ever world cup was 98 too
What are these western countries without immigrants and colonialism???
Without immigrants? Safe. Prosperous. Happy.
@kayn6858 šAfE my gosh😂😂
The Western countries without immigrant and colonialism are countries like Switzerland, Ireland, Norway. Very succesfull countries
@@pierrek5260 Norway oil swiz have heard of swiz bank were or the world criminals hide their money 😂
@@pierrek5260you re are wrong, Switzerland got many immigrants. If you never been here, look the national swiss team"la natie". Captain Granit Xhaka(originated from Albania) and Murat Yakin(originated from Turkey) for examples. Non au racisme, vive la démocratie!!!🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵
Free Palestine
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France is the new Brazil in terms of Football!
Serious, how colonialism started a lot of things, Like the Spanish Colonists that created Argentina
"The white boy scored" 😂😂
zidane and mbappé are NOT arabs but algerian amazighs! zinedine zidane is also not even arab sounding so idk where you got that from!
It is ARAB SOUNDING THE FUCK ???it literally translates to "beauty if the religion"
Zidan is NOT Arab he is Berber same as Benzema!
He was born in PARIS
ESCUCHEN CORRAN LA BOLA!!!
France number one in planet 🌎 kids soccer schools 😢
Not presumptuous at all with that title are we uh? Common bruh 😂 …if you had said “some of the best” I would agree.
If colonialism don't exist eroupean team will look so much different.
❤ le reportage ce passe a surville montereau fault yonne❤
France team will be nothing without African players
Bullshit ! Otherwise why no African country has won the World Cup ? your opinion is so binary that it becomes ridiculous. The French football academy is also one of the main reason. Yes they are super good athletes playing football in the streets since they are born. But without the educators and the academy, this kids will be nothing. The question should be why 63 players who played the last World Cup were born and raised in France and chose to play for the country of their ancestors (Maroc, Tunisia, Morocco, Senegal, Ivory Coast etc.
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@@edefournas ?????
Of course French team would be a great team woth no Africans. Look at the team of Spain, Germany, Argentina, etc... they won many World Cups with few or no Africans.
@@pierrek5260 yeah right, and don't be prejudice
@@edefournasit's because other African countries have a lack of infrastructure
The community organizer speaks better English than macron
perfect timing considering the racist Argentina chants