And that's how you know that Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player of all time, because he didn't wanted to play with Larry bird or magic johnson, but to compete against them, the best of the best , Goat 🗿🗣🐐!
@edwardbrito4010 Jokić is among the best shooters in he league today, statistically. I honestly don't know what you're on about. Until recently he was above 50 percent in 3 point shots. Now he's at 47 percent. That's crazy efficient, and has nothing to do with inflated stats. Besides, he also had multiple 35+ point games without hitting a single 3 point shot. He would absolutely DOMINATE every center that ever played.
I notice that OG NBA players love and respect Jokic and Giannis more than LBJ and yet all these so called LBJ fans swear up and down that he's the best right now at age 40 is crazy.
LBJ deserves his respect, but if not washed, he is thoroughly well rinsed. He is being gifted ridiculous “rebounds” and “assists” by in-game stat keepers
@@nenevz2948i completely agree. Its not like he’s never had great games in the last 4 years, far from it. But more than half the time he is a pain to watch, a liability on defense, and as you already said, gets his stats inflated. He’s still a valuable piece, but i think lebron should move towards coaching instead of trying to hold on by the thread of his playing career.
Jokic the actual smartest player in the league. NBA should be investigated for criminal negligence or fraud for the way they’ve handled him as a potential superstar. Klutch sports should be investigated as well
I think Jokic doesn't want to be face of the league or maybe more accurate is of THIS league. Or nba doesn't want foreigner as a face of the league which then puts whole global narrative in a toilet
Wemby can't believe Jokic was able to pull off shots right in his face, changing up how he shot it just to pull it off, like as if his shooting form is "whatever it takes"... Jokic is more valuable to Denver than SGA is to OKC, let alone Jokic is 3x better at performing the art of basketball.
Jokic is a better player and I wouldn’t argue otherwise. However shai has jokic bested in advanced impact metrics right now. If this keeps up he deserves mvp imo. Also Shai is probably the most entertaining scorer rn. He’s not the savant that jokic is and he won’t surgically pick u apart with superb playmaking but his isolation game is an art.
It should be mentioned that Larry had one of the best seasons ever in 1988 while having already broken his back and began developing bone spurs in his feet that affected his achilles tendons during the season.
@Uncut Hoops, Jokić called for Westbrook to join, because he knew Russell got heart. If you pay attention, Jokić is a family man, so is Russ. He saw someone under pressure to deliver a chip, not to himself but to his family, his wife, who quit her pro basketball career to be a stay at home wife/mom. Russ has a lot of heart and grit and it didn't fly with Jokić seeing him get buried by fans. THAT is the reason why he took him.
The GM cannot just ignore the one star player in the organization. He expressed he wanted Westbrook in the team and the GM made it happen. It wasn’t exactly competitive to get him, nobody else believed in him but Jokic.
That's a great description. Duncan was smooth in the post..he had such touch off the glass from either side. It looked effortless and smooth. Also he could find the open man when double teamed and was the glue of that dynasty. Jokic has the range and deft passing skills of Bird, also. Duncan was a better defender, though. He's also seems to be loyal to his team like them. That's rare these days.
I was to young to watch Larry but from the film i saw and seeing jokic im so glad you made this video cause i been saying Jokic is like the 2nd coming of Bird.
The players back then wouldn't have been able to stand 10 minutes of today's basketball. Name one good 3-point shooter from that era or some "hard" era. Today, you have to cover much, much more. Back then, basketball was played differently and created the illusion of a strong defense.
@@nepoznali 🤣😂🤣😂🤦 little dude doesn't know.. Go look for some old players , take a look and think before u speak. Efficiency was so good all over the floor that people outside the US "through" that rims r wider. And while looking at that go and look for Radivoj Korac or Mirza Delibasic, Europe. See a style of play. U ain't better today, myb even worse, especially if we take refs and officiating
@@nenevz2948 Times were also different. Irregular schools were pricey, and Larry's family was poor. Today, Larry is rich, so one could say he is still different
It's honestly probably actually MJ. We don't think of it because MJ's mid range and dunking were so good, but he also had ridiculously good touch around the basket.
Im a big fan of Jokić, one of my favorite athletes.. And I dont literally care at all about basketball, last game I saw was when Kukoč played lol. Hes such a nice and normal dude, I like that. Doesent take himself too seriously, apparently doesent give a flying fudge about money, power, status. Just a chill nice dude. Go Nikola, you have a fan in Croatia
Jokic's efficiency with his dribbling is probably one of my favorite parts of his game. With modern carry over and traveling rules it's become a lot easier for players to get work done off the dribble, and I think that has tricked them into thinking that dribbling is go to way to create shots.
Its cool to know that me and bird see the game the same way, I too enjoyed the warriros style of basketball (i bet he also loved the spurs) and when jokic came the arena, i switched over. The style is just too beautiful, sublime and pure
Jokic is just flat out better. No holes on offense. Literally every other player in nba history had/has at least one hole in their game. He can post up, jack up a three, go for a middy, set up a cutter for a layup, P&R and cut to the rim, jack up a contested three in the clutch against AD from three with the ball at his head, and can even cut from the corner because hes just so damn wide that he creates space at the back pocket just by existing. The only reason why we don't consider him the goat already is because his defense is suspect against faster guys. For some reason, it seems like Jokic was born in the wrong era. Probably would have dominated back then when defense was primarily 1 on 1 defense with a clogged paint. His defensive flaws would not be as big of an issue back then cause he's a great rebounder and his slow footedness wouldn't be punished as much.
Bird was a better scoring Jokic for those in the back 😂 Larry Legend 9 rebounds in 1980s is 12-13 today. Larry was a unicorn that 86 season was with a bad back.
Perfect take as always! Jokic is the center version of Bird. We have to ask Larry if he met a girl when he went to Europe, hahaha, he might not know he has a gigantic son.
Jokic, like all players today, has inflated numbers because in this era the refs (and NBA rules) are a joke. However, when you watch him play, you can tell Jokic would dominate any era. I believe in comparing players’ abilities to play basketball more than comparing their stats. From what I see, Jokic could be one of the top 5 players of all time. I already put him a little ahead of Bird. Webanyama is on his way next.
I agreed with you up until Joker over Bird. From over a month ago I confidently have him over Shaq He has the potential to but he isn't there yet Wemby has the potential to be top 5 as well but we will have to see
@@krimezone At this point, Bird has a better career than Jokic, but I’m just basing it on watching them play basketball. They’re extremely close IMO. Jokic gets the slight nod for me because he’s taller, so he can finish in the paint more frequently.
I usually don’t like comparisons but it is crazy it took this long to see a player actually emulate Bird in anyway. I guess maybe Dirk but even that isn’t really true. Bird was really one of a kind, even after he literally broke his back in ‘85.
Larry Bird was a phenomenal player. He had the benefit of having Michale on his team as well. Mchale was probably the best power forward in the league at the time and arguably top 3 PF alltime. If Jokic had someone of the level of Mchale on his team he would probably have one or 2 more championships.
Jokic gets my respect for winning the right way & by having actual skill’s & being actually fundamental. Can’t compare him with players of the past Era’s like 80’s,90’s, & early 00’s it was just a different game & Jokic wouldn’t be the player he is today had he played back then.
Totally disagree... I saw Bird do everything Jokic is doing today. Jokic would be the exact same type of Player Larry was. The style that the 2 of those players has would translate into any era.
@ I respectfully disagree. I saw Bird too & Bird played in a tougher Era where racking up stats was harder to do because of the rules & defense & how the game was played back then. Jokic is playing in a small ball Era where the rules are geared towards the offensive player & where defenses are not as tough hence why this Era is called The Freedom of Movement Era. Jokic is great in this Era but he wouldn’t be the same player that he is today if he played in past Eras.
@juliothom2408 Larry bird is light-years better the Nikola jokic lol . There was hand cheking rule back then when larry bird was playing . So stop lying to yourself . The man literally faced Air Jordan from the 80s!
Tough to say, his numbers wouldn’t be what they are today but they would still be amazing. Joker would be able to use his strength even more and he rarely gets calls like other players do today. But I could see the argument both ways.
As of 1/4/2025 (prior to last nights outburst): Nikola Jokic was: 3rd in Points per game 3rd in Rebounds per game 2nd in Assists per game 7th in Steals per game 1st in Triple Doubles 3rd in Double Doubles 2nd in FGM per game 2nd in Field Goal % (min 500 att) 1st in 3p Field Goal % 5th in Free Throw % among Centers 7th in Offensive Rebounds per game 3rd in Defensive Rebounds per game 1st in PER (3rd all time) 1st in Offensive Box +\- (2nd all time) 1st in Total Box +\- (6th all time) 1st in Offensive Win Shares 2nd in Win Shares (Shai) 2nd in Win Shares per 48 (Shai) 1st in Value over Replacement Player 2nd in Player Impact Estimate (Giannis) 1st in Estimated Wins Added 1st in Value Added
There are a lot of different metrics, that determines given player is one of my favourites. Its not only about game itself or IQ on the floor, its for example personality, stories related with that player, etc. Larry Bird is in my top 3 even before MJ or Magic. Jokic, which I'm fan of from around 5-6 years is another player in my top 3. I dont know who I can put there also. Maybe Luka? I was die hard fan of D. Wade when he was playing, but hearing his latest stories related with his kids, I lost a little bit respect for him. I was never fan on Kobe, but I can understand why people loved him. Other my favourites players (not always the best ones) are for example Rasheed Wallace, Gary Payton or Charles Barkley. This guys got balls.
As a native coloradoan i am here to tell you that the broncos makimg the playoffs after 8 years is a bigger deal than jokic and the nuggets. Thats how much we love the broncos.
What is insane about this year is Jokic is having to do all this “extra” work just to keep the nuggets in the hunt. The west is so crazy deep that there really is no take off games like he may have done in the past. By take off games I mean there have been games in the past where joker would get teammates way more involved, and you could see he was experimenting with plays or crazy passes. This year he just does not have that luxury.
To compare joic to Bird is both direspectful to Bird, and Jokic. Jokic's stats is on a whole other level for one. Plays a deferent position for two, and different roles for 3.
I watched Jokic’s performance against the Spurs and thought it was one of his more lackluster games. I look at the stats and he almost has a 45+ point triple double…. Against Wemby… idk what we’ll do with this guy
Those are crazy stats, but they are not as efficient as usual. But he played against one of the best defenders. As great as he is, he is still "improving." That is a mark of a great player. You just keep getting better.
Joker and Bird's games are very similar, with the great 3 point shooting from difficult positions, am aging blind passes and touch passes. But you could also do a video of the Joker imitating Kevin McHale in the post. He also backs his way into the net similarly to Shaq.
when you get a guy like bird stuck between a rock and hard place, between his chronic back issues and the greatness he wanted to achieve, he's gonna push against anything that will give him an inch to breathe and that meant robbing his future to pay debts in the present so he could play out a career despite his physical condition and constant pain. as a HoFer he can say it's worth it but what if he did it all for nothing? if it wasn't good enough for him to sit back and be proud of? it's cool that his heir apparent is jokic, who will undoubtedly understand and appreciate the work and all the risk bird put on the line to inevitably afford the future generations all the luxuries they enjoy and that keep them from crashing and burning. just thinking about how stressed out guys like shaq and lebron would make you if you were kareem or mj having to constantly hear about the whining and comparisons and bipolar between having your butt kissed and being disrespected every other day depending on how the wind is blowing. at least with jokic as the guy the media is gonna hold up to you, you know he's probably not gonna feed into it or turn it into a headache for the next 10 years. so guys like skip bayless can make 100m and do whatever it is he likes to do with his money, around young girls in tijuana (didn't hear it from me).
I don’t think anybody today can handle Bird’s trash talking. Draymond would go crazy if Bird talked trash & Bird would use that and make him look silly. Jokic is great but I wish he had Bird’s attitude. People respected/feared Bird, people don’t give Jokic the same but nearly deserves it. Bird was also better defender & clutch.
Jokic is unbelievable and proof that previous eras stars would be even more dominant today. And what Jokic is doing is what lebron fans think the old man is doing for the Lakers. When the old mans stats are empty and Joker HAS to do what hes doing if the Nuggs wanna win.
That would be unfair to Jokic. He has an offensive skillset that ANY player would dream of having. It's just flat out disrespectful if you think any player from any era could do what Jokic could do today. He is the most unguardable player we have ever seen and will probably ever see until someone else is able to score a contested three against AD with his hand already right on TOP of their head. List any other nba player in the history of the nba that can do that at a >35% rate, and maybe I will reconsider.
I think Shai will win MVP this year because he’s a top 3 player in the league on the best team in the deep west. But take Jokic off the Nuggets and they’re the Pistons from last year…
My best argument would be to switch teams and see if that player can do the same for the other side. I am sure Jokic will be greater in OK, but I strongly doubt if Shai can be that good in Denver.
Bird really better than Magic..Magic could not jump either….he could easily play point guard today, and lead league in 3 point percentage…..his 3 point percentage looks low, but you have to remember very few 3 point shots taken and a large percentage of 3s half or 3/4 court desperation attempts.
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Notice that Larry said he wanted to compete against Jokic, not with him, a true competitor.
Bird only wanted to play against the best.
That's how legends are born
And that's how you know that Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player of all time, because he didn't wanted to play with Larry bird or magic johnson, but to compete against them, the best of the best , Goat 🗿🗣🐐!
Hearing Bird say, He wants to play against the Joker, really makes me miss real competitive NBA players.
Yeah, that kind of says it all about the difference between Old School Players and guys like LeBron and KD.
When Larry Bird praises you that much and wishes to had competed against you, you know that you belong to the absolute greatest players
If I was Joker, I'd take that as the ultimate compliment.
Bird rarely praises players. He praised MJ and Jokic. I’m sure he praised a few more but can’t remember
Sure but I don't think Jokic ever thinks like "X praised me. I must be good." He already knows it.
Everyone: "I would love to play with Joker"
Larry Bird: "I would love to play AGAINST Joker"
It was a men's game, now it's just big bodied children and they're getting paid like never before
Facts. The old generation was about competition. Not teaming up
Your comment is trash the moment you started it off with EVERYONE lol that includes Larry bozo 😂
@@justhere6507grammar zelensky 😂
@@justhere6507 you know what "everyone" means. Congratulations
Bird was shorter, lighter, faster.
Jokić is taller, heavier, slower but stronger.
Other than that, similarities are uncanny.
Bird was a Demon level trash talker while Jokic doesent like to speak and is a little shy
@КристиянДимитров-ъ5н That too! But their respective play styles are remarkably similar.
Heart & toughness off the charts & shooting legendary other than that their close 😂 all stats are inflated now
@@bmsuperstar1 They def are but the biggest dif is personality asp bcs they were born in vary diffrent places
@edwardbrito4010 Jokić is among the best shooters in he league today, statistically.
I honestly don't know what you're on about. Until recently he was above 50 percent in 3 point shots. Now he's at 47 percent. That's crazy efficient, and has nothing to do with inflated stats.
Besides, he also had multiple 35+ point games without hitting a single 3 point shot.
He would absolutely DOMINATE every center that ever played.
I notice that OG NBA players love and respect Jokic and Giannis more than LBJ and yet all these so called LBJ fans swear up and down that he's the best right now at age 40 is crazy.
LBJ deserves his respect, but if not washed, he is thoroughly well rinsed. He is being gifted ridiculous “rebounds” and “assists” by in-game stat keepers
@@nenevz2948i am sorry, but he deserves none as he shows none
@@nenevz2948i completely agree. Its not like he’s never had great games in the last 4 years, far from it. But more than half the time he is a pain to watch, a liability on defense, and as you already said, gets his stats inflated. He’s still a valuable piece, but i think lebron should move towards coaching instead of trying to hold on by the thread of his playing career.
@@nenevz2948 But he never cheated the game, it's just poor judging :D
@@nenevz2948 the so called 'assists' are crazy
Jokic the actual smartest player in the league. NBA should be investigated for criminal negligence or fraud for the way they’ve handled him as a potential superstar. Klutch sports should be investigated as well
I think Jokic doesn't want to be face of the league or maybe more accurate is of THIS league.
Or nba doesn't want foreigner as a face of the league which then puts whole global narrative in a toilet
he doesn't need to be face, but at least give the man the ft's he deserves NBA.
The fouls he consistently doesn't get should be top priority.
Baffles me that people say Bird couldn’t play in today’s league
Dude... Of course. He is like 70 years old. That's why
@@ProjectExMachina If that was a joke it was not funny.
Of course, Larry Bird could play in today's league. The real question is, could today's players play in the 80s?
@@lancebroshar5818there’s people that legit argue bird couldn’t have made it today 🤣🤣
@@p8nisman-notand they couldn't be more wrong. You are entitled to an opinion, but opinions without reasonable thought are just foolishness.
20 years from now trolls will say Joker couldn’t play against modern athletes
It will be a 4 point shooting contest at that point 😂
@@thebeastmaster2710 Sorry, I don't have it in me to like that comment. You're probably right, though.
They'll say he was playing Twitter warriors and Tiktokers 😂
@@brandonadrien3476they’ll say he was playing podcasters and manufactured fake goats
Wemby can't believe Jokic was able to pull off shots right in his face, changing up how he shot it just to pull it off, like as if his shooting form is "whatever it takes"...
Jokic is more valuable to Denver than SGA is to OKC, let alone Jokic is 3x better at performing the art of basketball.
Wemby : Man how he pull up on me like that after iam in his face?
AD: First time?
Jokic is a better player and I wouldn’t argue otherwise. However shai has jokic bested in advanced impact metrics right now. If this keeps up he deserves mvp imo. Also Shai is probably the most entertaining scorer rn. He’s not the savant that jokic is and he won’t surgically pick u apart with superb playmaking but his isolation game is an art.
High praise coming from the legend 💪
1:40 🙏🏾
Nikola Jokic is 1 of a kind & I hope he wins the MVP this year.
I suppose these media clowns think that Larry Bird doesn't know basketball if he's giving props to the Joker...
They probably think bron is better too
Lmao who in the media would say that. Someone on X with 100 followers doesn’t count
I can see Gill's dumb ass having his deep clutch thoughts about it :D
It should be mentioned that Larry had one of the best seasons ever in 1988 while having already broken his back and began developing bone spurs in his feet that affected his achilles tendons during the season.
@Uncut Hoops, Jokić called for Westbrook to join, because he knew Russell got heart. If you pay attention, Jokić is a family man, so is Russ. He saw someone under pressure to deliver a chip, not to himself but to his family, his wife, who quit her pro basketball career to be a stay at home wife/mom. Russ has a lot of heart and grit and it didn't fly with Jokić seeing him get buried by fans. THAT is the reason why he took him.
the gm makes personnel decisions, not players, not coaches. you're just making things up.
The GM cannot just ignore the one star player in the organization. He expressed he wanted Westbrook in the team and the GM made it happen. It wasn’t exactly competitive to get him, nobody else believed in him but Jokic.
@@danieljoseph6686your comment has to be a joke....
@@Lomno12he must’ve never heard of LeBron😂 or Draymond and Currt
@@danieljoseph6686jokic did.
I said years ago Jokic is a combination of Bird and Tim Duncan👀👀👀
Agreed
That’s why Jokic has gotten all those triple doubles, he passes and shoots like Bird and rebounds like Tim especially on the offensive end🏀🏀🏀
That's a great description. Duncan was smooth in the post..he had such touch off the glass from either side. It looked effortless and smooth. Also he could find the open man when double teamed and was the glue of that dynasty. Jokic has the range and deft passing skills of Bird, also. Duncan was a better defender, though. He's also seems to be loyal to his team like them. That's rare these days.
Also he's better than both of them.
I was to young to watch Larry but from the film i saw and seeing jokic im so glad you made this video cause i been saying Jokic is like the 2nd coming of Bird.
Nah, it is nowhere near same.
But Larry Joe Bird is an absolute beast and in my top 3...
it’s only a comparison because of their court vision. other than that it’s a huge stretch
@@Lomno12, you must be the Boston homer, lol. As great as Larry was, he is not top-3 all time. Not even top-5. But he belongs in the top-10
If Bird played in this era he would score. He would have better stats than in his era because the game soft today it’s easier not physical.
The players back then wouldn't have been able to stand 10 minutes of today's basketball. Name one good 3-point shooter from that era or some "hard" era. Today, you have to cover much, much more. Back then, basketball was played differently and created the illusion of a strong defense.
@@nepoznaliI guess shai can’t make it in todays league because he shoots worse from 3 then birds career average
@@nepoznalithere’s literally so many good nba players that shoot poorly from 3 your point is re tarded
@@nepoznali 🤣😂🤣😂🤦 little dude doesn't know.. Go look for some old players , take a look and think before u speak. Efficiency was so good all over the floor that people outside the US "through" that rims r wider. And while looking at that go and look for Radivoj Korac or Mirza Delibasic, Europe. See a style of play. U ain't better today, myb even worse, especially if we take refs and officiating
@@nepoznali "The players back then wouldn't have been able to stand 10 minutes of today's basketball." ironically pace was faster in the 80s.
Larry Bird was different.
He was a way better defender and likely the most versatile
1 of 3 players ever to 3 peat at MVP.
Jokic should’ve been the 4th.
But he still was put in regular school
@@nenevz2948 Times were also different. Irregular schools were pricey, and Larry's family was poor. Today, Larry is rich, so one could say he is still different
Nikola Jokic ia more different than him
Jokic has to be the best non-dunking finisher in the paint ever
It's honestly probably actually MJ. We don't think of it because MJ's mid range and dunking were so good, but he also had ridiculously good touch around the basket.
Im a big fan of Jokić, one of my favorite athletes.. And I dont literally care at all about basketball, last game I saw was when Kukoč played lol.
Hes such a nice and normal dude, I like that. Doesent take himself too seriously, apparently doesent give a flying fudge about money, power, status. Just a chill nice dude.
Go Nikola, you have a fan in Croatia
Jokic's efficiency with his dribbling is probably one of my favorite parts of his game. With modern carry over and traveling rules it's become a lot easier for players to get work done off the dribble, and I think that has tricked them into thinking that dribbling is go to way to create shots.
Its cool to know that me and bird see the game the same way, I too enjoyed the warriros style of basketball (i bet he also loved the spurs) and when jokic came the arena, i switched over. The style is just too beautiful, sublime and pure
Joker just proves how amazing Larry Legend would be in today's league.
I was at that Denver @ San Antonio game the other night and man. Jokic was nice to watch play
Nice! I watch all Jokic games from my couch. Still fun. Lol
As a Spurs fan, Jokic vs Wemby is gonna be a special rivalry to watch
If Larry was a center I’d imagine he’d be similar to Joker not saying the exact same but similar play style
They're very similar. Jokic is the new bird but a center version.
Jokic is just flat out better. No holes on offense. Literally every other player in nba history had/has at least one hole in their game. He can post up, jack up a three, go for a middy, set up a cutter for a layup, P&R and cut to the rim, jack up a contested three in the clutch against AD from three with the ball at his head, and can even cut from the corner because hes just so damn wide that he creates space at the back pocket just by existing.
The only reason why we don't consider him the goat already is because his defense is suspect against faster guys.
For some reason, it seems like Jokic was born in the wrong era. Probably would have dominated back then when defense was primarily 1 on 1 defense with a clogged paint. His defensive flaws would not be as big of an issue back then cause he's a great rebounder and his slow footedness wouldn't be punished as much.
@@erichong4786 I disagree with you on that.
Lebron : I would love to team up with best players
Gonna take his talents to Denver
@@xoler2167 Haha.. :) I don't think they have Diddy parties in Denver..
@@southparkgdp LeAintNoPartyLikeADiddyParty
Bird was amazing player
Bird had more than "pretty serviceable" defense
Bird was 3x All NBA 2nd Team defense. He wasn't "passable" at D. When healthy, he was good.
now with social media, everyone can scream... "pay attention to me, pay attention to me , play attention to me'''''''
This is why I laugh when people say bird wouldn't be good in today's game 😂
Bird was a better scoring Jokic for those in the back 😂 Larry Legend
9 rebounds in 1980s is 12-13 today. Larry was a unicorn that 86 season was with a bad back.
9 rebounds is 9 rebounds if that's your reason kareem is the leading scorer as 38 k points is 45 k points makes no sense
Larry Bird and Nikola jokic TRUTH career basketball MVP👍🏿👍🏿
Larry Bird is a top ten all time NBA player, period. Bird > LeBron.
Of course jokic will stay healthy, he doesn’t need to jump whatsoever to dominate the game
Give me prime Jokic over prime Lebron any day of the week
It's unfortunate people believe in Bron and miss great basketball in doing so
Luka is also over Bron for each season by season
The highest compliment you can get from Larry is when he says he would love to play against you.
Perfect take as always! Jokic is the center version of Bird. We have to ask Larry if he met a girl when he went to Europe, hahaha, he might not know he has a gigantic son.
yup... i've said this before...
jokic and giannis are old-school types players
Jokic, like all players today, has inflated numbers because in this era the refs (and NBA rules) are a joke. However, when you watch him play, you can tell Jokic would dominate any era. I believe in comparing players’ abilities to play basketball more than comparing their stats. From what I see, Jokic could be one of the top 5 players of all time. I already put him a little ahead of Bird.
Webanyama is on his way next.
pass that shit to the left hand side
I agreed with you up until Joker over Bird. From over a month ago I confidently have him over Shaq
He has the potential to but he isn't there yet
Wemby has the potential to be top 5 as well but we will have to see
@@krimezone At this point, Bird has a better career than Jokic, but I’m just basing it on watching them play basketball. They’re extremely close IMO. Jokic gets the slight nod for me because he’s taller, so he can finish in the paint more frequently.
Bird is the true goat, no one was more all more well rounded as a player. his retirement is legendary
I usually don’t like comparisons but it is crazy it took this long to see a player actually emulate Bird in anyway. I guess maybe Dirk but even that isn’t really true. Bird was really one of a kind, even after he literally broke his back in ‘85.
Larry Bird was a phenomenal player. He had the benefit of having Michale on his team as well. Mchale was probably the best power forward in the league at the time and arguably top 3 PF alltime. If Jokic had someone of the level of Mchale on his team he would probably have one or 2 more championships.
Old school mentality, would like to play AGAINST Jokic when current players would have said like to play WITH Jokic.
Jokic gets my respect for winning the right way & by having actual skill’s & being actually fundamental.
Can’t compare him with players of the past Era’s like 80’s,90’s, & early 00’s it was just a different game & Jokic wouldn’t be the player he is today had he played back then.
Totally disagree...
I saw Bird do everything Jokic is doing today. Jokic would be the exact same type of Player Larry was. The style that the 2 of those players has would translate into any era.
@ I respectfully disagree.
I saw Bird too & Bird played in a tougher Era where racking up stats was harder to do because of the rules & defense & how the game was played back then.
Jokic is playing in a small ball Era where the rules are geared towards the offensive player & where defenses are not as tough hence why this Era is called The Freedom of Movement Era.
Jokic is great in this Era but he wouldn’t be the same player that he is today if he played in past Eras.
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Larry bird is light-years better the Nikola jokic lol . There was hand cheking rule back then when larry bird was playing . So stop lying to yourself . The man literally faced Air Jordan from the 80s!
Jokic is the highest order of figuring out any opponent of any style he plays. He would do just fine
Tough to say, his numbers wouldn’t be what they are today but they would still be amazing. Joker would be able to use his strength even more and he rarely gets calls like other players do today. But I could see the argument both ways.
Just need a left-hand game from Jok!
Great work finding and editing the Bird and Jocic highlights
I wish all that old footage from the 80's was hi-def.
Great observation dope video 🔥💯
Larry Bird has gotta epic turkey gobbler going on there
Both of them guys also make teammates better. He's making westbrook look like an All star.
Larry Bird 1985 was at least just as good as 1988. Avg 28 pts 10 rebs 5 asts nearly shooting 50-40-90. Lead in WS, PER, BPM and VORP
When a real legend says that he would like to play against him (Joker), then that is a great honour in my eyes
As of 1/4/2025 (prior to last nights outburst):
Nikola Jokic was:
3rd in Points per game
3rd in Rebounds per game
2nd in Assists per game
7th in Steals per game
1st in Triple Doubles
3rd in Double Doubles
2nd in FGM per game
2nd in Field Goal % (min 500 att)
1st in 3p Field Goal %
5th in Free Throw % among Centers
7th in Offensive Rebounds per game
3rd in Defensive Rebounds per game
1st in PER (3rd all time)
1st in Offensive Box +\- (2nd all time)
1st in Total Box +\- (6th all time)
1st in Offensive Win Shares
2nd in Win Shares (Shai)
2nd in Win Shares per 48 (Shai)
1st in Value over Replacement Player
2nd in Player Impact Estimate (Giannis)
1st in Estimated Wins Added
1st in Value Added
No, he is first in PER and passes MJ both in the regular season and playoffs.
@ these are all single season marks not career marks
What a crime from the Nuggets not giving this man a realy good team...
I once heard it said that he’s a mix between Kevin McHale and Bird who coincidently played together. That makes the most sense to me. From COJ 144
There are a lot of different metrics, that determines given player is one of my favourites. Its not only about game itself or IQ on the floor, its for example personality, stories related with that player, etc. Larry Bird is in my top 3 even before MJ or Magic. Jokic, which I'm fan of from around 5-6 years is another player in my top 3. I dont know who I can put there also. Maybe Luka? I was die hard fan of D. Wade when he was playing, but hearing his latest stories related with his kids, I lost a little bit respect for him. I was never fan on Kobe, but I can understand why people loved him. Other my favourites players (not always the best ones) are for example Rasheed Wallace, Gary Payton or Charles Barkley. This guys got balls.
If jokic is so good that he wins a chip with this team this year, i think it will be the greatest season of all time
As a native coloradoan i am here to tell you that the broncos makimg the playoffs after 8 years is a bigger deal than jokic and the nuggets.
Thats how much we love the broncos.
I was thinking yesterday that Nikola Jokic is just like Bird just without the trashtalk. Which is why Bird forever > Jokic
Bro... You want Jokic to get a tech?😂
Bird played defense
the best defenses still can't stop Jokic from averaging a triple double
@@artvallejos1460 word, Jokic is probably an unparalleled genius for what he does, but I could never love him more than Bird
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Ok. but do remember that Bird played with other Allstars for a majority of his career. Jokic not so much.
JJ Reddick: Joker can’t play
What is insane about this year is Jokic is having to do all this “extra” work just to keep the nuggets in the hunt. The west is so crazy deep that there really is no take off games like he may have done in the past.
By take off games I mean there have been games in the past where joker would get teammates way more involved, and you could see he was experimenting with plays or crazy passes. This year he just does not have that luxury.
To compare joic to Bird is both direspectful to Bird, and Jokic.
Jokic's stats is on a whole other level for one. Plays a deferent position for two, and different roles for 3.
I still havent found a better basketball player than Larry Bird.
I'll wait if someone here has found one please inform me.
For me the best legend ever played basketball, even before MJ.
you’re gonna be waiting awhile
rly nice to know that he is next to lary bird and ppl resemble with him
I watched Jokic’s performance against the Spurs and thought it was one of his more lackluster games. I look at the stats and he almost has a 45+ point triple double…. Against Wemby… idk what we’ll do with this guy
Those are crazy stats, but they are not as efficient as usual. But he played against one of the best defenders. As great as he is, he is still "improving." That is a mark of a great player. You just keep getting better.
Nice its like a jordan vs kobe competition. I would love to see the bird vs jokic. That would be a must see
Bird >>> GOAT
Sure. Larry was surrounded by great teammates. MJ got a pipsqueak. Pippen
lol the whole numb thing is so true, he's just so consistently stellar
Very good point about the dribbling.
Bird have better teammates...
That is high praise if Bird wants to play against you.
Notice how legendary players praises how good jokic is, While people on media discredit him on how boring he plays.
that's called efficiency, as opposed to some players who stacks up on dribbles on do nothing
Joker and Bird's games are very similar, with the great 3 point shooting from difficult positions, am aging blind passes and touch passes. But you could also do a video of the Joker imitating Kevin McHale in the post. He also backs his way into the net similarly to Shaq.
Amazing. Not am aging
His bucket after missing and getting his own rebound would credit LeBron James an assist, that's how crazy loose his assists are getting 😂
when you get a guy like bird stuck between a rock and hard place, between his chronic back issues and the greatness he wanted to achieve, he's gonna push against anything that will give him an inch to breathe and that meant robbing his future to pay debts in the present so he could play out a career despite his physical condition and constant pain. as a HoFer he can say it's worth it but what if he did it all for nothing? if it wasn't good enough for him to sit back and be proud of?
it's cool that his heir apparent is jokic, who will undoubtedly understand and appreciate the work and all the risk bird put on the line to inevitably afford the future generations all the luxuries they enjoy and that keep them from crashing and burning. just thinking about how stressed out guys like shaq and lebron would make you if you were kareem or mj having to constantly hear about the whining and comparisons and bipolar between having your butt kissed and being disrespected every other day depending on how the wind is blowing. at least with jokic as the guy the media is gonna hold up to you, you know he's probably not gonna feed into it or turn it into a headache for the next 10 years. so guys like skip bayless can make 100m and do whatever it is he likes to do with his money, around young girls in tijuana (didn't hear it from me).
I don’t think anybody today can handle Bird’s trash talking. Draymond would go crazy if Bird talked trash & Bird would use that and make him look silly. Jokic is great but I wish he had Bird’s attitude. People respected/feared Bird, people don’t give Jokic the same but nearly deserves it. Bird was also better defender & clutch.
I’ll point out that is early in Jordan’s career, he had an arguably better team than Jocik has now. Bird and Co. swept that team. Twice.
Jokic new nickname ‘Big Bird’
For people that try and say Bird couldn't play in today's league it laughable because he's literally Jokic with a meaner attitude and higher IQ
easy 5 championships for larry if he is playing in this era
Jokic is unbelievable and proof that previous eras stars would be even more dominant today. And what Jokic is doing is what lebron fans think the old man is doing for the Lakers. When the old mans stats are empty and Joker HAS to do what hes doing if the Nuggs wanna win.
That would be unfair to Jokic. He has an offensive skillset that ANY player would dream of having. It's just flat out disrespectful if you think any player from any era could do what Jokic could do today. He is the most unguardable player we have ever seen and will probably ever see until someone else is able to score a contested three against AD with his hand already right on TOP of their head.
List any other nba player in the history of the nba that can do that at a >35% rate, and maybe I will reconsider.
@erichong4786 did I say that? Did I say anyone from previous eras would be more dominant today? Did you play?
Bird gets the edge in trash talking though.. Against everyone..
I know its not related to the video but would you plan to react to that video isaac the bron fan vs 10 haters made weeks ago?
Jokic should run and superteam in DAL, like true competitors /s
Where did you find old Celtics games ?
Its both their iq thats incredible
what's the music please ?
Isn't he the face of the league???
Do you also have a Toyota Land cruiser youtube channel?
I think Shai will win MVP this year because he’s a top 3 player in the league on the best team in the deep west. But take Jokic off the Nuggets and they’re the Pistons from last year…
My best argument would be to switch teams and see if that player can do the same for the other side. I am sure Jokic will be greater in OK, but I strongly doubt if Shai can be that good in Denver.
Jokić and Giannis are the modern Bird and Magic. And Steph is the modern Jordan.
But if Jordan came before Bird and Magic.
i would pay good money for a joker/bird game.
But but but.... Plumbers & firemen.... 😅😅😅
Bird really better than Magic..Magic could not jump either….he could easily play point guard today, and lead league in 3 point percentage…..his 3 point percentage looks low, but you have to remember very few 3 point shots taken and a large percentage of 3s half or 3/4 court desperation attempts.
All-time per ratings:
1. Nikola Jokić 28.30
2. Michael Jordan* 27.91
3. LeBron James 26.97
4. Anthony Davis 26.84
5. Shaquille O'Neal* 26.43
6. David Robinson* 26.18
7. Wilt Chamberlain* 26.16
Jokic also has the highest PER for a single season. 32.85
also the playoffs
Jokic is bigger than Bird, which makes him a tad more effective. But Bird is prettier to watch. His game has more flow.
Yea, they gave Bird's 1988 MVP to Jordan.