What I love the most is Jokic going to work, pushing, bumping and figuring out how to score near the basket, while Wemby refuses to back down and keeps going hard on every possession. Tough, hard, inteligent basketball from these two, an absolute treat.
If the NBA is smart, they’d just schedule them every day. 😊 Seriously, though, why are these games not prime time national broadcasts? They are just great!
Stern would have had them front and center. It makes absolutely no sense. Joker is the best player in the league and he's not marketed as such. The league and its marketing have completely fallen off a cliff - theyre just hanging onto the marketing they set in motion 10-15 years ago...with the same names. Its bizarre.
@marcmaselli5760 but it wasn't always. Stern had them as beloved novelties (yao), or the plenty of Euros that played in Sterns NBA that all got their shine and marketing (Dirk for instance, but a ton of others..Stojakovic, Divac, etc etc). Silver and the team now just suck.
As a lifelong Spurs fan and a die hard Nikola Jokic fan, this match up is circled on my calendar as big DND! That back to back was utterly perfect in every way for a fan.
HOPEFULLY THEY BATTLE IT OUT IN THE PLAYOFFS THIS YEAR💯💪🏾💪🏾LOWKEY I HOPE WE GET A NUGGETS VS BUCKS FINALS👀🔥🔥WOULD BE SO TUFF GIANNIS VS JOKIC & RUSS VS DAME
i would rather see the spurs face rockets (which looks better than the nuggets this regular season but inexperienced in the playoffs). the nuggets are too experienced, they might just gentlemen sweep the spurs.
Exactly! The NBA executives are Nationalists! They only want Americans to carry the torch of basketball supremacy.. that’s why none of the current European players like Giannis, Jokic, Luka, or SGA are the face of the League. The NBA is about to lose their big three faces of the League for the last 20 years (LeBron, Durant, and Curry). It’s obvious that they don’t want a European player as the face of an American invented sport.. They are trying to make Anthony Edwards the new face, but he’s just not good enough. Now that Victor Wembanyama is here… the NBA Executives are just going to have to concede. And when they do, it will be the best decision they ever made.
The best of Jokic and Wenby comes out when these two match up whatever the date or the games importance. It's really "I want to be the best player on the court in these games" but with total respect for one another. That too shows greatness.
I've watched a few RUclipsrs analysis of this couple of games. Your video is straightforward and informative with good sprinkle of highlights. No yapping, no crunching stats, no excessive unnecessary description. Kudos. You got a new sub
Jokic proved why he is the best player in the league with this matchup. Sure lost a game they probably should have won at home but was able to come out with an even more dominant performance on the back to back while Wemby looked tired and frustrated. Wemby keeps getting into foul trouble against Jokic. He’s a great player no doubt but still has a ways to go.
Jokic couldn't hit his shots in the first game. Nevertheless, Wemby was getting a much better whistle than Jokic, so in that context, Jokic played better.
@@joelcurtis562 nobody asked you. There’s been a bunch of people trying to put down Jokic after G1 saying he’s the real MVP, better than Jokic, yada yada. And besides, everybody keeps talking about how trash Denver’s roster is outside of Jokic so do they really? You’ve got a surefire HOF in CP0 rings on the team.
Huge opportunity for Wembanyama to tackle Jokic at this tender age in the beginning of his career. It will make him very strong and is great for his future and current development
Wemby is making a believer out of me...I thought he is just another Ralph Sampson...but he needs to bulk up a bit, maybe another 15 pounds...and he needs to mix up his game a little..perhaps some posting up or back to the basket moves..
These two back to back games were perhaps the best games of the season so far..the spurs were a little bit lucky that jokic shot was clearly off in the first game..even on the second...else jokic would have scored 50 points in both games...
Really amazing matches battle of Titans ,Wemby is gonna be huge and Jokic is the best player of 20's . What a crazy miss by NBA league not to put any of these two games on national TV...
Wondering why? Because NBA is political, racist, ideology-pushing shithole, and they don't want to show a proper basketball showdown presented by two Europeans...
Yeah I take jokic in the '20s so far as well, ran the numbers on this. Giannis has an argument, I don't think regular season matters beyond its relevance to postseason, but jok's postseason numbers are still better
Excellent content as always, just one thing want to add, Wenby still can't handle heavy minutes like Jokic, he will look a little bit out of gassed in some games.
I watched both games. Jokic conserves his energy by not playing defense.(Not Rotating, contesting shots or protecting the rim, thats why Jokic has NEVER MADE A ALL DEFENSE TEAM IN 11 YEARS) Wemby is expected to initiate the offense, cover both the screener and the roller on defense ,score, create his own shot for himself and others and finish the game, while guarding centers that outweigh him in the post.💯
@@SaySpawnTrue. But Jokic also doesn’t want to be at risk of fouling out. It’s not just about minutes, playing one side of the court with much less energy means you’re much less at risk of fouling out. Wemby got 2 fouls early on in the second game, which cost him heavily in terms of minutes
Wemby goes all out on defense. I love Jokic, but he's the entire nuggets offense, he has to conserve energy on defense and make sure he's not in foul trouble. Wemby looking gassed out there at times, at 21 years old, is normal. for now😎
That's because 12% of the US population lives in California. Although it is wrong to only show the Lakers, it's all about the money 💰 always will be...
Hawks are usually a fun watch, but that performance (and the next against clippers) was awful. I didn't realise just how pivotal Jalen Johnson is to that team
A few observations from a long-time Nugget fan: (1) I hope you're healthy, Pops, get well Coach (2) Jokic and Wemby both seemed extra motivated for these two games, they looked like they really enjoyed the challenge (3) The only time Wemby's youth really showed was when Westbrook got under his skin in the second game. Russ actually did a really commendable job guarding him 1-on-1 (4) Maybe because he was so locked in, but Jokic was absolutely roasting the Spurs when Wemby was out. it was even more noticeable than usual. (5) Chris Paul looks washed
I disagree with Chris Paul he is doing wonders for the Spurs he can have an off shooting night like everyone but he constantly put up 8-9 assists and mentor the whole team basically being a coach on the court and knows exactly what to do in crunch time putting up big shots and controlling the clock etc which the Spurs simply don't have someone that does it as well as him, and he's still good defensively with steals active hands just a blessing to have him on the Spurs he completely turned the team around
@@raymendez3403 It's totally possible it was a couple bad nights and I admittedly don't see the Spurs a lot, but they looked so much more dangerous with Castle and Vassell on the court. They look legit.
@@csurampowerWestbrook was unreal guarding Wemby. Jokic played significantly better when he wasn't matched up against Wemby. Chris Paul is a bit of a double edged sword for Spurs atm. He really controls half court set-ups and directs traffic superbly, but his defense, scoring and pace of play can't quite compare to the young guys. I haven't checked, but I'd wager the Spurs have less turnovers with Paul on the floor, but most of their points have to go through Wemby during that time, making their offense pretty formulaic
Jokic just machine like consistency when even bad games are not that bad. 41% shooting with offensive putbacks making real shooting percentage higher compared to Kobe’s 44,7% career shooting percentage is still not terrible.
@@philip863Dont compare Jokic to Kobe. Kobe had 5 rings and made multiple "all defense teams. Jokic has never made one "all defense team"and only has 1 ring 💯
@@SaySpawn I don’t care about rings a player wins when they’re not the leader of their team. Kobe has 2 championships as a leader and had a much better supporting cast, coaching staff, and front office(even tho said front office wasn’t helpful most years) to support those runs compared to Jokic. I think at the end of the day I still will have Kobe higher all time if Jokic doesn’t win another championship tho, and if he is just slightly higher but we have to see how jokic’s career plays out.
@@philip863 Kobe tried like hell to play like Jordan and was probably even a better tough shot maker than Jordan, and no one can accuse him of not giving his all to everything, but he just did not have Jordan’s cat like quickness, so he just couldn’t play like his idol. All these tough shots Kobe made, Jordn didn’t even have to bother with, because he was so quick that he didn’t even have to get stuck with tough shots, he’d just blow by defenders so fast that theyndid not eve; know what was going on……no one accusing Kobe of not putting hella effort into everything, but he just did not have Jordan’s quickness and even athleticism…..I mean he tried like hell but you can’t overcome not having freakish quickness of Jordan no matter how hard you try
@@archyleach for sure. I still go and just look up Kobe’s clutch moments cuz so many times your like “how did he make that?!?!?” Tho Im still a bigger Jokic fan, I just hope his organization can get it together and give him better role players, cuz as we can see they do not need to be stars, just consistent.
Think you forget to cover, or didnt see, that when Jokic was Wembys primary defender he was 2/13 with 2 assists and 1 TO. Its unsurprising that gets ignored everywhere, but in the 1v1 matchup Jokic completely dominated Wemby, on BOTH ends. Conversely, Jokic was 15/27 with 12 assists over the 2 with Wemby as his primary defender. Individually, this isnt some close battle, and Murray is just a massive handicap Jokic has to try to win in spite of, per usual. 😂
The head to head is pretty crazy. Can’t wait for Wemby to get older. I’m sure 25 year old Wemby would’ve done a hella of a lot better on offense vs jokic.
SPURS VS NUGGETS LAST 3 GAMES Last game of the year last season Wemby 34 points -Jokic 22 points SPURS WIN Wemby 35 points 18rebs - Jokic 13-36 41 points. SPURS WIN Jokic 46 points - Wemby 20 points 23 rebs(Wemby missed entire 1st quarter) NUGGETS WIN The prior contests Wemby played around 26 minutes per..💯
@@philip863 Are you normal?, You can't wait for him to get old. What do you think, is he also can't wait to get old?. Were you can't wait or can't wait to get old?.
Jokic is a one way player, HE HAS NEVER MADE A "ALL DEFENSE TEAM" in 11 years. Wemby is 10 years younger. Jokic stats at 21 years old 10ppg 7rebs Wemby stats at 21 years old 26ppg 10rebs 4blks and 4assists 🔥 🔥
With Wemby already being a top 10 player, I think the key to him becoming the BITW will be to tighten up his handle so he doesn’t turn the ball over as much and so he can more easily self-create rim shots for himself.
Wemby handle is tight, its just everyone on the court is much shorter than him. He has to spend more energy dribbling in a crowd, but he can. He has many dribbling highlights on RUclips.💯
Wemby used good judgement in shot selection in their win, limiting his trey attempts and scoring most of his points closer to the basket. Ok n the second game, he went crazy from beyond the arc, despite shooting a horrible percentage. He didn't learn any lesson from their earlier win.
He was fatigued. The Spurs expect Wemby to do everything on offense and Defense on back to back nights while being outweighed by 30lbs, but the Spurs still got the split.💯
Did you fall asleep and miss OT? That was ***FAR*** from the best the NBA has to offer. Wemby did nothing while Joker, looking like he just rolled out of bed, went gangster.
SPURS VS NUGGETS LAST 3 MEETINGS Last game of last season Wemby 34 points 12rebs - Jokic 22 points 10rebs. SPURS WIN Wemby 35 points 18rebs - Jokic 13-36 41 points SPURS WIN. Jokic 46 points- Wemby 20 points 23rebs(Wemby missed most of the first half getting foul on Westbrook) NUGGETS WIN.💯💯
UNDERSTAND THIS Jokic has never made a "all defense team" in 11 years because he's a one way player. Jokic stats at 21 years old 10ppg 7rebs 😆 Wemby stats at 21 years old 26ppg 10rebs 4blks and 4assists 🔥 🔥
@@SaySpawn I'm also a Wemby fan. But he wasn't great in OT, and it made for a pretty boring conclusion to the game. That's what the comment says. You don't need to pull stats from the last 3 games for this
Worth pointing out the Jokic's 37 pts, 11 reb, 8 assist on 61% TS% is actually below his standard. He's normally 31 pts, 13 rebound 10 assist on 66% TS%. (37 ppg on 61% is just not as impressive as 31ppg on 66%). So I would say Wemby actually did bother Jokic a lot on defense.
@@Young-ep8ikIts his career average vs the Spurs. Wemby isnt on the court for the whole game. Nuggets vs Spurs last 3 matchups Last game of last season. Wemby 34 points 12 rebs Jokic 22 points SPURS WIN Wemby 35 points 18rebs . Jokic 13-36 41 points SPURS WIN JOKIC 46 points Nuggets win Wemby 20 and 23( Wemby missed the entire 1st quarter) The prior meetings in Wemby's rookie season he played an average of 26 minutes. Jokic has played more minutes in each contest.💯💯
Yhea and also remember the refs are a problem with their foul calls didn't let Wemby do his thang he probably would've had triple doubles on both back to backs and 2 ws
giving up 7 inches in height and maybe 10 inches winspan also some athleticism. Joker still can make one shot after another on Wemby. People can never realize how skilled Joker is.
Fact that NBA does not highlight these games just shows how out of feel they are. NBA is pushing themselves into a crisis focusing only on aging stars (Steph, LBJ, KD) that will go away. And what will they do next?? It will be too late to say „we’ve been having all those phenomena all time”. Luckily All-Star voting starts to show need to promote others!
League is lazy. That's why they are so stubborn about shoving LeBron and Lakers down everyone else's throats. This would be an easy incremental fix to the Association's declining popularity. Start expanding interest by expanding the narrative.
That's really pathetic, because it doesn't account for circumstances! You might as well say, Wemby never won anything, lost to Serbia in Olympics and got to finals only because of roll of dice! In a meantime, Joker was robbed of last MVP, otherwise he'd be 4 time MVP, finals MVP in West and Final MVP and Wemby was on vacation!😅
Jokic was 4th in MVP voting in 2018-2019 lol and he should be third in that year Jokic was monter even in 2017 but he had Barton, old Millsap, super young Murray
9:43 chris paul trippin that wasn't even close to a travel if u watch carefully jokic right pivot foot never left the ground he only moves his left foot around.
Jokic getting up 10 3's in a game is not a win for the other team. He is literally the best 3 pt percentage shooter in the NBA. On an average night for him that's ~15 points.
Wemby will have the last laugh. By the time Wemby enters his prime, Jokic will be an old man with a walking stick. They remind me of Wilt and Kareem. We are watching basketball history every time these two plays. Savour every game
NBA just want to ride the lebron vs steph wave for as long as possible, televise so mike breen can bang call steph and blocked by james, for future top 100 bang moments from steph.
Two of the best players and teams dueling it out back to back, with Jokic being the current MVP and recent NBA Champion, and Wemby being the current DPOY and soon to be MVP for multiple seasons.. and NBA Executives don’t show these games for the world to see. Why??!! It’s easy… The NBA executives are Nationalists! They only want Americans to carry the torch of basketball supremacy.. that’s why none of the current European players like Giannis, Jokic, Luka, or SGA are the face of the League. Two of those are Champions and won a Title recently. The NBA is about to lose their big three faces of the League for the last 20 years (LeBron, Durant, and Curry). It’s obvious that they don’t want a European player as the face of an American invented sport.. They are trying to make Anthony Edwards the new face, but he’s just not good enough. Now that Victor Wembanyama is here… the NBA Executives are just going to have to concede. And when they do, it will be the best decision they ever made.
Its not about skills, its about anatomy. Jokic is fatter than Wemby thats it. Karl Anthony Towns shuts down Jokic every time they play, all you have to do is plaster him when he approaches the 3 point line coming down the floor. He tries to go through you, he's not quick enough to go around players. You need to be at least 7'0, quick on your feet and at least 260-270lbs. Embiid is a duck in Denver( high altitude)I know, however when he was healthy he did play against Jokic and he shut him down too.💯💯
Carson...Wemby will NEVER be better player than prime Jokic and I can confidently say that... He lacks strenght and is not exactly KD as a shooter, so he will NEVER be all time great 1 on 1 scorer against his matchup...and you CAN'T be in GOAT convo if you are not all time great 1 on 1 scorer... So Jokic is better bucket getter, better playmaker and rebounder...is Wemby's defense enough to offset that? Keep im mind that Jokic is underrated on defense got steal on him at the end, like if they play 1 on 1 in the park Jokic would destroy him... However legacy is different thing..Wemby will have better team and win more rings an be higher all time...but again he will NEVER be better player than peak/prime Jokic, I can confidently say that!😮
I'm a big Jukic fan, but I don't agree that you can determine this early how Wemby will develop. He won't be the first player to buff up and put on muscles and the fact he can play in the paint but also out, spaces the floor really well. Only time will tell. In the meantime, we can enjoy this awesome match up while it lasts 😊
Wemby is only 21 years old, and he’s already putting up numbers reminiscent of prime David Robinson and Hakeem Olajuwon. For context, Robinson averaged around 24 points, 12 rebounds, and nearly 4 blocks per game in his prime, while Hakeem routinely posted over 20 points, 10 rebounds, and 3 blocks during his best seasons. Comparing Wemby’s early production to legends of that caliber shows how special he is at such a young age. I love Jokic, but he wasn’t performing anywhere near this level at 21. In fact, Jokic averaged about 16.7 points, 9.8 rebounds, and 4.9 assists per game at age 22 in his third NBA season-impressive, but still not as dominant as Wemby’s current trajectory. As for the shooting comparison to Kevin Durant: if you look at KD at a similar age, Wemby’s shooting efficiency and range are just as promising, if not more so, especially when factoring in his defensive impact. And honestly, there’s no reason to put one player down to prop another up. Both Wemby and Jokic have immense respect for each other; perhaps we should follow their example. If you don't understand how tremendous Wemby trajectory is you are just a hater I can confidently say that!
@mediokah232 Dirk is a better offensive player than Joker. When Embid wins a title, he will be considered better. Tim Duncan is a better player, Hakeem is a better player, and Shaquille O'Neal is a better offensive player. You guys are young and suffering from recency bias. When Jokic even starts to decline, he won't be able to stay on the floor to have the analytics to even stake that claim long term.
You're calling Wemby's three-point shot a strength???? He was 2 of 13 in the game and 0 for 2 in OT. His refusal to go low when it matters cost the Spurs an L.
JOKIC STATS AT 21 YEARS OLD 10ppg 7rebs 😆🤣 Wemby stats at 21 years old 26ppg 10rebs 4blks and 4assists Stop it, Wemby prime doesn't have a ceiling. Jokic is 31 years old, he's not getting better..💯💯
If its not Lakers and James, Chuck and Shaq don't care ("all knowing" , "we are the best" CENTERS btw). Respect for what they ware 20 years ago, but now they are just two old farts talking about them self, James and Lakers mostly. And they wonder why NBA ratings are down. Those two only criticize and make fun of other players, no real respect and praise for the current era.
These were literally 2 of the best games of the season and NBA didn't care
Im grateful for the youtubers taking notice. 🎉
U forgot the knicks game. Spurs vs bucks will be there too
@@je5406 agreed! So happy obsolete ESPN is tanking and we live in a time where we have access to so much better content and fans are noticing.
It's the Spurs, they have never gotten coverage even when they were a dynasty. The only coverage they got was playoffs
NBA sucks at promoting wemby and giving attention to his big time games
What Wemby is learning by playing against Jokic is invaluable. The best basketball lessons of his life.
What I love the most is Jokic going to work, pushing, bumping and figuring out how to score near the basket, while Wemby refuses to back down and keeps going hard on every possession. Tough, hard, inteligent basketball from these two, an absolute treat.
We are now at the point where keeping Jokic at 45 points on 55% shooting on a back to back night is an elite defense 😂
You bball casuals always try to disregard defense because JOKIC IS HORRIBLE AT IT. 😆💯
@@SaySpawn You managed to call people casuals and write the most casual thing you could.
@@SaySpawn Jokic may not be the best defender, but he is by no means horrible at it
mvp vs future mvp
Serb vs French. EuroLeague Strong.
Nobody of them played in Euroleague 😂@@jlui21
If the NBA is smart, they’d just schedule them every day. 😊 Seriously, though, why are these games not prime time national broadcasts? They are just great!
Doesn’t correlate with their agenda….
Stern would have had them front and center. It makes absolutely no sense. Joker is the best player in the league and he's not marketed as such. The league and its marketing have completely fallen off a cliff - theyre just hanging onto the marketing they set in motion 10-15 years ago...with the same names. Its bizarre.
Jokic needs to be the face of the NBA!
Bias against foreigners
@marcmaselli5760 but it wasn't always. Stern had them as beloved novelties (yao), or the plenty of Euros that played in Sterns NBA that all got their shine and marketing (Dirk for instance, but a ton of others..Stojakovic, Divac, etc etc). Silver and the team now just suck.
As a lifelong Spurs fan and a die hard Nikola Jokic fan, this match up is circled on my calendar as big DND! That back to back was utterly perfect in every way for a fan.
Imagine Jokic playing for Popovich and the Spurs.
We NEED a playoff series between these two teams, speaking as a Nuggets fan!
HOPEFULLY THEY BATTLE IT OUT IN THE PLAYOFFS THIS YEAR💯💪🏾💪🏾LOWKEY I HOPE WE GET A NUGGETS VS BUCKS FINALS👀🔥🔥WOULD BE SO TUFF GIANNIS VS JOKIC & RUSS VS DAME
@@waff6ixSan Antonio has no chance to beat the Denver in game 7 series
i would rather see the spurs face rockets (which looks better than the nuggets this regular season but inexperienced in the playoffs).
the nuggets are too experienced, they might just gentlemen sweep the spurs.
If spurs make the playoffs they should start giving CP some respect. He turned the suns into contenders his first season there
@@kellevelle2695 YEA BUT IT WOULD BE FUN TO WATCH💯BOTH THESE GAMES WERE DOWN TO THE WIRE ITS NOT LIKE THEY ARE JUST TOTALLY HOPELESS AGAINST DENVER
NBA: WTF WHY ARE RATINGS DOWN???
Also NBA: Jokic and Wemby don't belong on primetime
Exactly! The NBA executives are Nationalists! They only want Americans to carry the torch of basketball supremacy.. that’s why none of the current European players like Giannis, Jokic, Luka, or SGA are the face of the League.
The NBA is about to lose their big three faces of the League for the last 20 years (LeBron, Durant, and Curry). It’s obvious that they don’t want a European player as the face of an American invented sport.. They are trying to make Anthony Edwards the new face, but he’s just not good enough. Now that Victor Wembanyama is here… the NBA Executives are just going to have to concede. And when they do, it will be the best decision they ever made.
@@Nsporadic1 which is stupid. This is your time to go more global.
@@Nsporadic1correct me if i am wrong but Dr. Naismith is Canadian (who invented basketball)
@@salaskusina One who moved to Massachusetts and invented the game at a YMCA there. It's why the Basketball Hall of Fame is in Springfield, MA.
The best of Jokic and Wenby comes out when these two match up whatever the date or the games importance.
It's really "I want to be the best player on the court in these games" but with total respect for one another. That too shows greatness.
I'm all about the fucking Jokic and Wemby praise. Fuck yeah dude, these two games were so sick
I've watched a few RUclipsrs analysis of this couple of games. Your video is straightforward and informative with good sprinkle of highlights. No yapping, no crunching stats, no excessive unnecessary description. Kudos. You got a new sub
Jokic proved why he is the best player in the league with this matchup. Sure lost a game they probably should have won at home but was able to come out with an even more dominant performance on the back to back while Wemby looked tired and frustrated. Wemby keeps getting into foul trouble against Jokic. He’s a great player no doubt but still has a ways to go.
Jokic couldn't hit his shots in the first game. Nevertheless, Wemby was getting a much better whistle than Jokic, so in that context, Jokic played better.
Well, Jokic has a much better supporting cast and is ten years older, so yeah, I should hope he could outplay Wemby.
@@NoahLinden debatable on the fouls. Spurs were getting away with a lot, especially in G2.
@@joelcurtis562 nobody asked you. There’s been a bunch of people trying to put down Jokic after G1 saying he’s the real MVP, better than Jokic, yada yada. And besides, everybody keeps talking about how trash Denver’s roster is outside of Jokic so do they really? You’ve got a surefire HOF in CP0 rings on the team.
Dominant yet went overtime.
Huge opportunity for Wembanyama to tackle Jokic at this tender age in the beginning of his career. It will make him very strong and is great for his future and current development
I hope so, but I am sure he is going to get much better.
Wemby is making a believer out of me...I thought he is just another Ralph Sampson...but he needs to bulk up a bit, maybe another 15 pounds...and he needs to mix up his game a little..perhaps some posting up or back to the basket moves..
These two back to back games were perhaps the best games of the season so far..the spurs were a little bit lucky that jokic shot was clearly off in the first game..even on the second...else jokic would have scored 50 points in both games...
That’s true bro jokic can show Wemby what it’s gonna take for him to be great
@@antoniouy9704Wemby’s shot was off in the second game. That’s basketball.
Really amazing matches battle of Titans ,Wemby is gonna be huge and Jokic is the best player of 20's . What a crazy miss by NBA league not to put any of these two games on national TV...
Wondering why? Because NBA is political, racist, ideology-pushing shithole, and they don't want to show a proper basketball showdown presented by two Europeans...
Jokic is not the best player of the 20's. 🧢😂
Its 2025 the 20's aren't over.
a@@SaySpawnand who the hell is the best player of 20s? hes a 3time mvp in the 20s
who is the other player better than him from 2020 to 2025?
Yeah I take jokic in the '20s so far as well, ran the numbers on this. Giannis has an argument, I don't think regular season matters beyond its relevance to postseason, but jok's postseason numbers are still better
It was fun to watch that game. Jokic dropped 46.
Excellent content as always, just one thing want to add, Wenby still can't handle heavy minutes like Jokic, he will look a little bit out of gassed in some games.
I watched both games. Jokic conserves his energy by not playing defense.(Not Rotating, contesting shots or protecting the rim, thats why Jokic has NEVER MADE A ALL DEFENSE TEAM IN 11 YEARS)
Wemby is expected to initiate the offense, cover both the screener and the roller on defense ,score, create his own shot for himself and others and finish the game, while guarding centers that outweigh him in the post.💯
@@SaySpawnTrue. But Jokic also doesn’t want to be at risk of fouling out. It’s not just about minutes, playing one side of the court with much less energy means you’re much less at risk of fouling out. Wemby got 2 fouls early on in the second game, which cost him heavily in terms of minutes
Wemby goes all out on defense. I love Jokic, but he's the entire nuggets offense, he has to conserve energy on defense and make sure he's not in foul trouble. Wemby looking gassed out there at times, at 21 years old, is normal. for now😎
@@SaySpawn Dear god, you wouldn't understand basketball if we explained it to you with crayons.
NBA rather show some mid Lakers vs some random team
That's because 12% of the US population lives in California. Although it is wrong to only show the Lakers, it's all about the money 💰 always will be...
Hawks are usually a fun watch, but that performance (and the next against clippers) was awful. I didn't realise just how pivotal Jalen Johnson is to that team
This breakdown need to be seen by every NBA fan. Good job.
Really awesome to Watch that 2 nights in a row. Epic battles 😎
That first playoff series between the nuggets and Spurs is gonna go down in history
Both are amazing... 🤩🏀🇫🇷👍
A few observations from a long-time Nugget fan: (1) I hope you're healthy, Pops, get well Coach (2) Jokic and Wemby both seemed extra motivated for these two games, they looked like they really enjoyed the challenge (3) The only time Wemby's youth really showed was when Westbrook got under his skin in the second game. Russ actually did a really commendable job guarding him 1-on-1 (4) Maybe because he was so locked in, but Jokic was absolutely roasting the Spurs when Wemby was out. it was even more noticeable than usual. (5) Chris Paul looks washed
I disagree with Chris Paul he is doing wonders for the Spurs he can have an off shooting night like everyone but he constantly put up 8-9 assists and mentor the whole team basically being a coach on the court and knows exactly what to do in crunch time putting up big shots and controlling the clock etc which the Spurs simply don't have someone that does it as well as him, and he's still good defensively with steals active hands just a blessing to have him on the Spurs he completely turned the team around
@@raymendez3403 It's totally possible it was a couple bad nights and I admittedly don't see the Spurs a lot, but they looked so much more dangerous with Castle and Vassell on the court. They look legit.
@@csurampowerWestbrook was unreal guarding Wemby. Jokic played significantly better when he wasn't matched up against Wemby.
Chris Paul is a bit of a double edged sword for Spurs atm. He really controls half court set-ups and directs traffic superbly, but his defense, scoring and pace of play can't quite compare to the young guys. I haven't checked, but I'd wager the Spurs have less turnovers with Paul on the floor, but most of their points have to go through Wemby during that time, making their offense pretty formulaic
Great content 👏
3:05 that is just peak Jokic play
Tremendous video. Way to go Carson
This was a 2 game playoff series.
The fact that both of their BACK TO BACK games weren’t nationally televised is hilarious
Imagine Jokic and Wemby ON THE SAME TEAM!! 😳😳
Overpowering to the extrem
Kudos to Wemby only at the start of his 2nd year in NBA and already giving an incredible play against the seasoned stars
Loved this
great content, suscribed
great video
this was the best game i've seen in a while
we will be talking about this on our podcast and using this clip! good stuff
Beautiful analysis 👌
Jokic just machine like consistency when even bad games are not that bad. 41% shooting with offensive putbacks making real shooting percentage higher compared to Kobe’s 44,7% career shooting percentage is still not terrible.
Random jab at Kobe, but gotta agree. Kobe was an elite player overall especially after Shaq left, but man was he inefficient a lot of the time.
@@philip863Dont compare Jokic to Kobe. Kobe had 5 rings and made multiple "all defense teams. Jokic has never made one "all defense team"and only has 1 ring 💯
@@SaySpawn I don’t care about rings a player wins when they’re not the leader of their team. Kobe has 2 championships as a leader and had a much better supporting cast, coaching staff, and front office(even tho said front office wasn’t helpful most years) to support those runs compared to Jokic. I think at the end of the day I still will have Kobe higher all time if Jokic doesn’t win another championship tho, and if he is just slightly higher but we have to see how jokic’s career plays out.
@@philip863 Kobe tried like hell to play like Jordan and was probably even a better tough shot maker than Jordan, and no one can accuse him of not giving his all to everything, but he just did not have Jordan’s cat like quickness, so he just couldn’t play like his idol. All these tough shots Kobe made, Jordn didn’t even have to bother with, because he was so quick that he didn’t even have to get stuck with tough shots, he’d just blow by defenders so fast that theyndid not eve; know what was going on……no one accusing Kobe of not putting hella effort into everything, but he just did not have Jordan’s quickness and even athleticism…..I mean he tried like hell but you can’t overcome not having freakish quickness of Jordan no matter how hard you try
@@archyleach for sure. I still go and just look up Kobe’s clutch moments cuz so many times your like “how did he make that?!?!?” Tho Im still a bigger Jokic fan, I just hope his organization can get it together and give him better role players, cuz as we can see they do not need to be stars, just consistent.
Beautiful breakdown!
Felt like watching playoff basketball, especially that first night. So much fun to watch
Totally agree! Great content keep it up.
Watching these two play is Basketball Heaven. I can imagine Mike vs LaBron.
Jokic is still the better overall player at this point, but it is just a matter of time for Wemby.
Good analysis, although I think Denver was missing a key player in defense against Wembanyama, and that's AG!
Think you forget to cover, or didnt see, that when Jokic was Wembys primary defender he was 2/13 with 2 assists and 1 TO. Its unsurprising that gets ignored everywhere, but in the 1v1 matchup Jokic completely dominated Wemby, on BOTH ends.
Conversely, Jokic was 15/27 with 12 assists over the 2 with Wemby as his primary defender. Individually, this isnt some close battle, and Murray is just a massive handicap Jokic has to try to win in spite of, per usual. 😂
The head to head is pretty crazy. Can’t wait for Wemby to get older. I’m sure 25 year old Wemby would’ve done a hella of a lot better on offense vs jokic.
BS. Where did you get that stat from? "Dominated on both ends" yet you fail to mention Jokic shooting abysmally in the first game.
SPURS VS NUGGETS LAST 3 GAMES
Last game of the year last season
Wemby 34 points -Jokic 22 points SPURS WIN
Wemby 35 points 18rebs - Jokic 13-36 41 points. SPURS WIN
Jokic 46 points - Wemby 20 points 23 rebs(Wemby missed entire 1st quarter) NUGGETS WIN
The prior contests Wemby played around 26 minutes per..💯
@@philip863 Are you normal?, You can't wait for him to get old. What do you think, is he also can't wait to get old?. Were you can't wait or can't wait to get old?.
Jokic is a one way player, HE HAS NEVER MADE A "ALL DEFENSE TEAM" in 11 years.
Wemby is 10 years younger.
Jokic stats at 21 years old
10ppg 7rebs
Wemby stats at 21 years old
26ppg 10rebs 4blks and 4assists 🔥 🔥
That play where he drew Westbrook’s foul was such a high IQ play. He’s going to be unstoppable in a year or two.
He is officially 7'5" now. He is still growing which could jeopardize his long term career.
Only better from here.....can't wait.
With Wemby already being a top 10 player, I think the key to him becoming the BITW will be to tighten up his handle so he doesn’t turn the ball over as much and so he can more easily self-create rim shots for himself.
He's not Top 10 player. it's gonna take 5 years at least to even be considered
@@artvallejos1460he's top 5 my dude 😂
It's not even my opinion, just look the list
@@artvallejos1460he’s 5TH in MVP votes…
@@artvallejos1460Dolt comment 💯
Wemby handle is tight, its just everyone on the court is much shorter than him. He has to spend more energy dribbling in a crowd, but he can. He has many dribbling highlights on RUclips.💯
Wemby used good judgement in shot selection in their win, limiting his trey attempts and scoring most of his points closer to the basket. Ok n the second game, he went crazy from beyond the arc, despite shooting a horrible percentage. He didn't learn any lesson from their earlier win.
He was fatigued. The Spurs expect Wemby to do everything on offense and Defense on back to back nights while being outweighed by 30lbs, but the Spurs still got the split.💯
Props to Victor. He doesn't duck like Fraudbiid
Jokić is amazing ❤
And it wasn’t even on National TV. Crazy
Did you fall asleep and miss OT? That was ***FAR*** from the best the NBA has to offer. Wemby did nothing while Joker, looking like he just rolled out of bed, went gangster.
Spurs were pretty tragic most of the 2nd half too
SPURS VS NUGGETS LAST 3 MEETINGS
Last game of last season
Wemby 34 points 12rebs - Jokic 22 points 10rebs. SPURS WIN
Wemby 35 points 18rebs - Jokic 13-36 41 points SPURS WIN.
Jokic 46 points- Wemby 20 points 23rebs(Wemby missed most of the first half getting foul on Westbrook)
NUGGETS WIN.💯💯
UNDERSTAND THIS
Jokic has never made a "all defense team" in 11 years because he's a one way player.
Jokic stats at 21 years old
10ppg 7rebs 😆
Wemby stats at 21 years old 26ppg 10rebs 4blks and 4assists 🔥 🔥
@@SaySpawn I'm also a Wemby fan. But he wasn't great in OT, and it made for a pretty boring conclusion to the game. That's what the comment says. You don't need to pull stats from the last 3 games for this
imagine to have this two men in the same all star team ? :)
I keep hearing this chatter saying that the league is in trouble, viewership is down, nothing new to see. REALLY???
This could have been the Olympic finals.
Worth pointing out the Jokic's 37 pts, 11 reb, 8 assist on 61% TS% is actually below his standard. He's normally 31 pts, 13 rebound 10 assist on 66% TS%. (37 ppg on 61% is just not as impressive as 31ppg on 66%). So I would say Wemby actually did bother Jokic a lot on defense.
Hm... Jokic scored both of those game 40+ points right??? I don't know you calculated those 37 points...
@ it's his career avg vs wemby shown in the video
@@Young-ep8ikIts his career average vs the Spurs. Wemby isnt on the court for the whole game.
Nuggets vs Spurs last 3 matchups
Last game of last season.
Wemby 34 points 12 rebs Jokic 22 points SPURS WIN
Wemby 35 points 18rebs . Jokic 13-36 41 points SPURS WIN
JOKIC 46 points Nuggets win Wemby 20 and 23( Wemby missed the entire 1st quarter)
The prior meetings in Wemby's rookie season he played an average of 26 minutes. Jokic has played more minutes in each contest.💯💯
@@SaySpawn As in every other matchup where players don't play 48 minutes. Got it. You asked a question I answered it. It's not that deep.
Yhea and also remember the refs are a problem with their foul calls didn't let Wemby do his thang he probably would've had triple doubles on both back to backs and 2 ws
Wemby ran out of gas in the 2nd game. Jokic's stamina was incredible.
My favorite wemby and jokic propagandist
If the NBA is smart they would put Wemby in the all-star game by default
Jokic is very smart and Wemby is very scary
Wemby looks like somebody's uncle shooting hoops out on the playground with his nephews, all of which are under 10 years old.
Jokic is thrilled to have wemby take some attention off him
giving up 7 inches in height and maybe 10 inches winspan also some athleticism. Joker still can make one shot after another on Wemby. People can never realize how skilled Joker is.
Jokic is 7'0", Wemby is 7'4. JOKIC is skilled on offense, not on defense. The Spurs almost beat them twice in a row without their Head Coach Pop.💯
@@SaySpawn Arenas‘ friend..
Nice video
The crazy thing is how NBA doesn't capitalize on these two ALIENS. Jokic is probably the peak of NBA history rn, and I'm an Air Jordan fanboy..
Neither one was nationally televised
If it wasn't for Jokic, I would have no interest in the NBA today. He will be an all time great, real basketball fans will be grateful they witnessed.
Fact that NBA does not highlight these games just shows how out of feel they are. NBA is pushing themselves into a crisis focusing only on aging stars (Steph, LBJ, KD) that will go away. And what will they do next?? It will be too late to say „we’ve been having all those phenomena all time”. Luckily All-Star voting starts to show need to promote others!
To become the best, you have to play against the best
NBA did a disservice not airing even one of these games on national tv, shame
8:06 Are you telling me there have only been 13 shot attempts in post-ups on Wembanyama by non-Jokić players this year?
League is lazy. That's why they are so stubborn about shoving LeBron and Lakers down everyone else's throats. This would be an easy incremental fix to the Association's declining popularity. Start expanding interest by expanding the narrative.
I enjoyed them both too. It's like Garp vs Luffy lol
Jokic wasn't dominating until his 6th season (4th and 5th were good not great)
Wemby in year 6 is going to be unfathomably dominate
That's really pathetic, because it doesn't account for circumstances! You might as well say, Wemby never won anything, lost to Serbia in Olympics and got to finals only because of roll of dice! In a meantime, Joker was robbed of last MVP, otherwise he'd be 4 time MVP, finals MVP in West and Final MVP and Wemby was on vacation!😅
Besides, a skinny forward like Wemby is most likely to get hurt!
@@pashapasovski5860you seems to have like 40 years old, even more, and you're hating on a 21 years old, that is pathetic...
@@pashapasovski5860… you sure but that
Jokic was 4th in MVP voting in 2018-2019 lol and he should be third in that year
Jokic was monter even in 2017 but he had Barton, old Millsap, super young Murray
9:43 chris paul trippin that wasn't even close to a travel if u watch carefully jokic right pivot foot never left the ground he only moves his left foot around.
Jokic getting up 10 3's in a game is not a win for the other team. He is literally the best 3 pt percentage shooter in the NBA. On an average night for him that's ~15 points.
Jokic's 47% three point percentage means a 70.5% effective shooting percentage. Any way you try to slice that, it's good for Denver.
Wemby will have the last laugh. By the time Wemby enters his prime, Jokic will be an old man with a walking stick. They remind me of Wilt and Kareem.
We are watching basketball history every time these two plays. Savour every game
NBA just want to ride the lebron vs steph wave for as long as possible, televise so mike breen can bang call steph and blocked by james, for future top 100 bang moments from steph.
Jokic is impressive in almost every way, Wenbanyama is just tall.
9:06 This guy is better than Arvydas Sabonis. Loot at this play. Look how smart he is. Just manipulating Wemby.
Wemby's weakness is balance. Some physical contact makes him wobble.
He needs that kd workout or kyrie 🤷🏽♂️
giving up 5-6 inches....thats a lot
The most unguardable shot is Wemby 3!
When his defender jumps to block the shot and Wemby doesn't bother to leave the floor, just shoots right over him. Very entertaining to watch
Two of the best players and teams dueling it out back to back, with Jokic being the current MVP and recent NBA Champion, and Wemby being the current DPOY and soon to be MVP for multiple seasons.. and NBA Executives don’t show these games for the world to see. Why??!! It’s easy…
The NBA executives are Nationalists! They only want Americans to carry the torch of basketball supremacy.. that’s why none of the current European players like Giannis, Jokic, Luka, or SGA are the face of the League. Two of those are Champions and won a Title recently.
The NBA is about to lose their big three faces of the League for the last 20 years (LeBron, Durant, and Curry). It’s obvious that they don’t want a European player as the face of an American invented sport.. They are trying to make Anthony Edwards the new face, but he’s just not good enough. Now that Victor Wembanyama is here… the NBA Executives are just going to have to concede. And when they do, it will be the best decision they ever made.
Spurs lost game 2 because they relaxed with the lead and put in cp3 in q4 too lately.
or they lost cuz porter and jokic decided to COOK them and show them there’s levels to this…. or like every game, a multitude of things
Wemby has exposed the nba's lack of post offense lmao. They don't have the skills to get around him
Its not about skills, its about anatomy. Jokic is fatter than Wemby thats it. Karl Anthony Towns shuts down Jokic every time they play, all you have to do is plaster him when he approaches the 3 point line coming down the floor. He tries to go through you, he's not quick enough to go around players.
You need to be at least 7'0, quick on your feet and at least 260-270lbs. Embiid is a duck in Denver( high altitude)I know, however when he was healthy he did play against Jokic and he shut him down too.💯💯
@@SaySpawnwait wait wait….. did you just say KAT shuts jokic down every time they play?!?! BRUH 😭💀 who’s your plug?? I want what you’re smoking 😂😂💀💀
@@SaySpawnyou, do not know basketball my friend 😢
I'm happy for all basketball players and nerds who can enjoy these technicalities. But for a casual sports person this is boring.
What is fun game for you man? Nothing disrespectful, just curious.
We have to eat mor chiken 🐔🐔🐔
Leeeeroy Jenkins! I love it!
🃏👽💯
present and the future
20s jokic
30s wemby
Wemby isnt a basket ball god man
I just can't with modern day basketball. Too many travels and that's just the tip of the iceberg.
jokič is way better it is fizik and IQ
Carson...Wemby will NEVER be better player than prime Jokic and I can confidently say that...
He lacks strenght and is not exactly KD as a shooter, so he will NEVER be all time great 1 on 1 scorer against his matchup...and you CAN'T be in GOAT convo if you are not all time great 1 on 1 scorer...
So Jokic is better bucket getter, better playmaker and rebounder...is Wemby's defense enough to offset that?
Keep im mind that Jokic is underrated on defense got steal on him at the end, like if they play 1 on 1 in the park Jokic would destroy him...
However legacy is different thing..Wemby will have better team and win more rings an be higher all time...but again he will NEVER be better player than peak/prime Jokic, I can confidently say that!😮
I'm a big Jukic fan, but I don't agree that you can determine this early how Wemby will develop. He won't be the first player to buff up and put on muscles and the fact he can play in the paint but also out, spaces the floor really well. Only time will tell. In the meantime, we can enjoy this awesome match up while it lasts 😊
Wemby is only 21 years old, and he’s already putting up numbers reminiscent of prime David Robinson and Hakeem Olajuwon. For context, Robinson averaged around 24 points, 12 rebounds, and nearly 4 blocks per game in his prime, while Hakeem routinely posted over 20 points, 10 rebounds, and 3 blocks during his best seasons. Comparing Wemby’s early production to legends of that caliber shows how special he is at such a young age.
I love Jokic, but he wasn’t performing anywhere near this level at 21. In fact, Jokic averaged about 16.7 points, 9.8 rebounds, and 4.9 assists per game at age 22 in his third NBA season-impressive, but still not as dominant as Wemby’s current trajectory.
As for the shooting comparison to Kevin Durant: if you look at KD at a similar age, Wemby’s shooting efficiency and range are just as promising, if not more so, especially when factoring in his defensive impact. And honestly, there’s no reason to put one player down to prop another up. Both Wemby and Jokic have immense respect for each other; perhaps we should follow their example.
If you don't understand how tremendous Wemby trajectory is you are just a hater I can confidently say that!
@@IamHailey8 But he may get injured of he buff up/put on weight
@@realone296 Stop it bro. Even joker said that wemby will be remembered as one of the greatest
😴 tired take
Wemby > Joker
Someone doesn't like the truth, huh?!?
Wemby will never be good post player, because if he gain weight, he will become injury prone. He can only gain certain amount of weight.
Jokic is the best offensive player ever..😂😂😂.. He trolling...
He’s undoubtedly in the discussion so even if you think he’s wrong Jokic is close enough for the opinion to not be a troll take
@mediokah232 Dirk is a better offensive player than Joker. When Embid wins a title, he will be considered better. Tim Duncan is a better player, Hakeem is a better player, and Shaquille O'Neal is a better offensive player. You guys are young and suffering from recency bias. When Jokic even starts to decline, he won't be able to stay on the floor to have the analytics to even stake that claim long term.
@@Godsecs None of those guys are better on offense than Jokic, and Embiid will never win a title. There, fixed that for you.
@@shorewall yep you did
You're calling Wemby's three-point shot a strength???? He was 2 of 13 in the game and 0 for 2 in OT. His refusal to go low when it matters cost the Spurs an L.
JOKIC STATS AT 21 YEARS OLD
10ppg 7rebs 😆🤣
Wemby stats at 21 years old
26ppg 10rebs 4blks and 4assists
Stop it, Wemby prime doesn't have a ceiling.
Jokic is 31 years old, he's not getting better..💯💯
@@SaySpawn Would that be when Joker was winning MPV & rebounding titles while playing 40-minute, 1-hour capped games in Europe?
If its not Lakers and James, Chuck and Shaq don't care ("all knowing" , "we are the best" CENTERS btw). Respect for what they ware 20 years ago, but now they are just two old farts talking about them self, James and Lakers mostly. And they wonder why NBA ratings are down. Those two only criticize and make fun of other players, no real respect and praise for the current era.