VW Golf 2005 speedometer not working. Fault finding and repair...
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- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2024
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This 2005 Golf came to me with a non working speedometer.
All other gauges were fully functional, only the speedometer was not...
Interesting things found once the cluster was opened...🤦♂️
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Excellent. You have a delicate touch with instrument electronics and don't break the components. Very well done.
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I do my best...
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@@LMAutoRepairs hi, can you do a video on how to remove and install the needles please?
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Very goox work. Thank you for your videos.
Just the thing to watch as there's bugger all on telly. Love your videos for simple no nonsense diagnostics and repair. Keep it up fella.
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I'm very proud of you, you're the craftsman with two right hands, thank you for sharing the experiences with us 🙏
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Well what can I say you did again. After watching this video am going to be tickering with an old cluster at home, just to find out what makes it thick.
It's always fun to watch you work. Thanks once more.
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This is next level repair skills, 99% of garages would just of send the unit away!
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Brilliant Louis, after the first two tests to see that the the cluster is getting a speed signal and also to see that the needle wouldn't move with the Autel test most of us would have just called the cluster, but not you, you went to the point of not only removing and stripping the cluster u then decided to strip the tiny fiddly motor, excellent stuff, u must have the midas touch because with my sausage fingers I would definitely broke it.
Thanks Louis great video.
Thank you so much.
Kind regards Jay
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Impressed . Really. That was a fine repair you performed and like you said . It can hold for a day but it might as well work till the car is going to the scrapyard . Well done
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So far so good...
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Nice job mate!
I had no idea that the "magic black tape fix" was so common. Some people really go the extra mile... In the wrong direction!
Cheers and keep up the awesome work.
Absolutely... the extra mile in the wrong direction....😊
Quite common to be honest... have much more coming...🤦♂️
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Amazing work again, so pleased when you realised it had worked too.
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No parts required 😊 top work Luis 👌
Thanks Igor...
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Hi. Ive been playing around with those bipolar stepper motors from an old audi a3. Ive build some kind of tester for those. It is based on 1 IC an arduino with 10 lines ofcode and an potentiometer ill be glad to send you schematics or even the circuit itself. You just plug in the suspected motor in and the needle would precisely follow connected potentiometers movement. Really cheap and quite simple solution. Just let me know if you would be interested i learned lots from you and it would be nice to pay you back. Great work!
I have a bit of experience with arduinos, but never thought about that... not that I would use it very often to be fair... but will appreciate your offer...
Send it to lmsvvavr@sapo.pt
Put a subject on it... otherwise I will struggle to find the email between all the spam...😋
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@@LMAutoRepairs Hi. Unfortuneatly i couldn't send you the e-mail (i got autoresponse that it's outdated) anyway i've made you a video to show that tester thing. It could be useful as car companies often use Bipolar steppers and not all of them could be actuated over OBD so you can test idlers, throttles etc. and my video for you ruclips.net/video/PN7JhzYGalY/видео.html.
in case you want to drive unipolar steppers use IC like uln2003a.
I would hazard a guess you had it right at the beginning. Gearbox (cog) issue. I've seen well over a hundred of these type of dashboards with similar problems. All they need is opening and putting back together correctly. The burned stuff you saw is quite normal. Most have this discolouration. Either flux or more likely something there to stop the solder cracking over time. The brownish residue always looks cracked and dodgy. Your resistance measurements are correct for a good set of coils (brushless motor type of an idea). I might have had a couple with genuine faulty motors, the rest were the same scenario as yours. Dash been stripped to fiddle mileage or block out a warning light. The motors go faulty because the idiots are rough and push the needles back on without securing the spindle at the other side. God knows how considering how tight these motors are to get to bits but the stop position on the big cog gets jammed. All it needs is a finger on the other side holding the spindle while pushing the needle back on and there's no problem. Good vid, you got it working again. I wouldn't have thought it would fail again.
Forgot to say, I first figured the stop position issue on the first one of these I ever stripped down. I was the original idiot 🧐
(Jesus, another essay 😬)
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like always lm is my favorite best technician man thank you teacher actually cuz of you i become more confident to diagnose cars better than I was honestly I always proud of you I'm from Morroco
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That's great!
Really appreciate the feedback... and best of luck!
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Fantastic job :) Nowadays usually things are replaced by another ones, producing tones of rubbish, old school is to fix anything and you can do it proving that on every video :) Great job :)
Some stuff is not even built to be repairable.... which is a shame...
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@@LMAutoRepairs true, things are made to be broken and replaced like whole units...
ESP light ? No problem, just tape it :D
Excellent work with the speedometer! Have a nice new year!
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Thanks, Happy New year!
I would have just broken the motor to open it and replace it. Seems the needle gets stuck at 70 km /h after the repair.
Thank you for sharing your passion
What do you mean?
The needle sweeps from 0 to the other end, then from 0 to half, which is about 70, yes... but that's normal under testing... if that is what you are referring to...
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@@LMAutoRepairs yes thought it got blocked around 70 km/h. Just didn't know it would do that. Thanks for taking the time to reply
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Excellent diagnosis and repair. Seasons greetings from Pennsylvania!
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Seasons greetings!
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Another part swapping exercise avoided well done brother
Absolutely!
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Very useful thanks lad, i replaced the entire unit, on my car, only to put everything black how it was because it through a key code fault on it, and the car wouldn't start, unfortunately because the new unit was way better, but now I'm gonna give it a go to see if with your help i can fix it, obrigado ;)
Yes... the cluster is responsible for the immobiliser system...
Only way would to be to program it...
Hope you get it sorted...
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
Obrigado! 😊
@@LMAutoRepairs thank you some much for showing me the way, i found the problem thanks to you and it has nothing to do with electricals, you cannot really see it on your video but when i pulled mine apart the problem was quite clear, and i bet that in your case was the same, and it happens has you can clearly prove in video that someone was already messing with the cluster, in your case was hiding warning lights, and in my case i tried to change the all cluster, and the problem is the small cog inside their is two and the one that is kinda like on a axel with a spiral on it, and that one moves out of place ever so slightly but it is enough, not make contact anymore and the Speedo stops working, i would never find the problem if it wasn't for you, much much appreciated you are a legend.
That's great!
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Great vid to many just fit new bits,good to see no parts needed well done 😁
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What a brilliant detective job.
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Love the deeper look and repair Luis!!!!
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This man is like superman for cars 👍
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Exelent Luis.I did change some of those,but never opened one of them.
Repair before replace...😋
Thanks Alex!
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Great job. Digging in to the problem to get the problem. Good tips
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Excellent job sir I learn something from your video thank you so much
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My dash/gauges on my 2009 scirocco has now failed 3 times since I've had the car.
Great job man, you helped me a lot for my seat wich uses the same motor/stepper Motor
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You get a lot alot rain mate but video all ways the best thank you and have a happy new year
I do indeed...lol
Thank you for watching and happy new year!
Thanks for the video
We need more .
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that wasn't a fix .. that was a superfix Christmas special, .. understanding is the key to the problem, I'm sure that's not the first time that happened.
Probably not...
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an excellent repair video 👍
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It's surprising what can be fixed. I am the same if I can fix it without parts I give it a go.
In real life a replacement cluster with programming would be a good money spinner for a shop so most places will not attempt to fix things.
Very true...
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Great job, properly diagnosed and a good repair. I probably would have replaced that stepper motor but you got it done same day and at no cost.
I don't like VW cars, everything electrical breaks in them, door locks, gauges, fuel pumps, relays, poor grounds etc etc etc..........
They are horribly unreliable and poorly made buckets of German air pollution, they are vile smelling engine oil burning emission rigging environment killing scrap. (Just my view, you are entitled to your own thoughts).
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We are all entitled to our own opinions...
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I confess working on VW is not my cup of tea... but sometimes it has to be done...
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Perfect repair
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Hi Louis another awesome fix. If this was as shown a breaker yard dash I wonder if it had a similar failure.
Good point...
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Hello sir i have have bought a 2007 golf mk5 where it shows kilometers it show error if you press 0.0 it immediatly show the kilometers it does it everytime you put it in contact i have no idea of the issue, if you could help me thanks👍
Mais um trabalho excelente, como sempre.
Um Feliz Ano Novo para ti e tua família.
Muito obrigado!
Feliz Ano Novo!
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Vw bora hız göstergesi ışıkları açınca çalışıyor birde üzerine vurunca çalışıyor bana yardım edermisin arızayı gidermek için
Amazing diagnose and repair class, you can indicate that you have any video with a soldering tips, I'm still not sure if I doing this correctly, thanks
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I don't have nothing special... other than this one ruclips.net/video/abAHbI822EY/видео.html
But there is plenty of tutorials out there...
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
Great repair as always. But I think that needles should be calibrated after putting in a car. As you can see in the movie, after repair is done the engine speed is showing above 1.000rpm which shoud be around 800-850rpm as it was before repair. Also when you have done needle test with autel the speedometer should go from 0 to 140mph (no over as it goes in your video) and stop at 60mph.
But maybe I am wrong. Movie is very insteresting, great job.
Because when I started it at the end, the car was cold... cold start always holds the revs at bit higher... the revs drop after the cold start is finished...
Anyway, as far as you place the needles in the exact same position as they were before, will be fine... this was not my first time disassembling a cluster...😉
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
@@LMAutoRepairs Patience is a virtue Luis and you got in spades
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Hi! Problem didn’t was with coils...when someone put there silicon,he didn’t remove needles correctly and that toothed snail moved away...you weren't careful at that when you dismounted ;) gl
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Not really sure if I understand...
The dial was not working before... was working afterwards...
If was my fault, how do you explain the cluster dial not working even before I open the cluster?
Have you watched the entire video?
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@@LMAutoRepairs I watched! Cluster dial was defective yes, but problem was with conical gear ,it was moved from position.That piece was moved from position because someone removed needle on that clocks side and is common problem in cluster’s from Vw golf 5/touran/Passat b6 etc....
You did good job but you solved when you put everything together in position:)
Got you...
Possibly... hard to tell now...
But thanks for your comment!
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Look at 19:55 when you push that in position :) that was the solution :)
@@LMAutoRepairs anyway you’re good,i like to watch your video!! Keep going🍻🍻🛠🛠👍
Very good work thanks for sharing the experience with us
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Great job, EXCEPT you left the tape on the ABS bulb!
I was never asked to look at the ESP problem...
Informed the owner that there was a problem, and that was it...
The issue I was asked to look at, was the speedometer...
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
bravo.
toujours un régal vos vidéos.
merci
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Hello dear friend. i have seat toledo 2 2004 in display spidemoter and all not working(fuel temp too).ligts too.whats problem in my display?
Thank you for the upload, usefull information insinde. Happy new year :-)
Thank you!
Happy New year to you too!...
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Hello, good job, you are the best forever, i learn many things from your videos thank you very much 😊😊😊
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Thank you, for watching and for your comment!
@@LMAutoRepairs you are welcome
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I also have a Golf 5 instrument who needs fixing. The display gets dimm when its hot outside. I have a used cluster which i will use for takings parts from. But my question is: How do you get the needles installed the right places? Or does the cluster recalibrate itself?
In this case they lock when at rest position... some clusters are different... that's why I always take a picture before I remove them...
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Nice! The tape over the lamp most probably is for a system that the car doesn;t support. Someone wanted to avoid coding the cluster. :D :D :D
No... if watch till the end, you will see that was not the case...😉
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@@LMAutoRepairs Yep!. I spoke to soon! :D :D :D
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Brilliant !
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Skills 100%
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In accelerater pedal sensor, why signals 1&2 having
That was good, but when testing the coil where you using a 5volts power from a multimeter or what?
From a multimeter?
No... from a power supply...
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Fascinating
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you did it very well
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very nice
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mine is not working but is not the motor, when i put power + and _ it moves, when back to the car doesnt. its not the power source of the car, cause i put another dash and it works
How did you tested the replacement/used dash?
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very nicely done..excellent job.
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Great video!
It encouraged me to look at an instrument panel I have replaced already but maybe it could still be fixed. The leds that illuminate the digits for the speed and rev don't light up, but the ones from the needles and the other warning lights do. What I should look at first, in your opinion?
Follow the circuit... check for shorts or OL...
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@@LMAutoRepairs Ok I will try, thank you!
Good repair, nice video.
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excellent work
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Great video! How do can we contact your for repairs?
Perfect repair, thanks for a video 👍
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Good job as always😃
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I would never cover over a warning light. Modern snowflake drivers depend on ESP to stay on the road. Furthermore some modern cars (probably not a Golf)
have an unstable chassis so they depend on the ESP. if that car was in a crash someone could be in trouble.
Not that I blame you as you just returned it how it was. I would do the same.
Yes... I know, I do advise of the issue, then is no longer up to me...
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Good job
Thank you!
I am curious how much you charge for a job like this
Nice one. Time consuming though? Just a thought: if it fails or goes dicky again you could swap the temp guage with the speedo motor? Temp guage probably gets less use so is less worn? Done similar things like this before.
Possibly...
Still going for now... nearly 1 year later... so, looks like worked OK...
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Thank you for watching!
Nice work i have a vw crafter van witha speedometer problem- it seems that the rev counter activates/ moves when the speedometer should and the speedometer moves as the rev counter should ! This happened after the the van was junpstarted
Any suggestions what could cause this ?
A voltage spike could have damaged the cluster...
But try to disconnect the battery for a few minutes and see what happens...
Scanning the van might also help...
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@@LMAutoRepairs thanks for your reply iv had the battery off a few times and its made no difference! Vans been scanned few times but im told no faults !
What about live data?
Anything relevant in there?
I would start to suspect of a faulty cluster... but difficult to say without checking it...
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Im thinking cluster has been damaged by voltage spike too iv had it out for quick visual inspection might need to look closer at it is there anything you think i should check
Wow! Nice electronic skills. Didn't know an instrument cluster is so complicated. Well done!
BTW is the speaker for the chime in the cluster or elsewhere?
Usually on the cluster...
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Can this problem give P0500 fault code? Pls tell me
Possibly...
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nice repair, dangerous to drive a car with a faulty ESP because you will have limited control of the car when driving on slippery or icy roads.
True... same as drive a car without esp in first place... lol
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
Do you put a note on the invoice stating that the ESP light hasn't been covered up by you? Just to cover yourself...?
An excellent video... Great diagnostics 👍
I always do inform when I find dodged things...
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Hi , I drive VW Golf 5 1.4 patrol engine and 80 ps . My RPM goes over 4000 when I am at 140 km in 5th gear . Is it normal?
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Totally normal.
@@ghost37666 hi, happy new year. thanks for your reply. I have another question please. When I turn my ignition on , some computer programming noise coming from under the driving side . May be it come from under the gas paddle or from radio . What that could be ? I been to couple of garage they said it normal.
Very nice job! I'm very curious how much did you charge for the service
Thank you sir for the sharing but I have a question about lost communication with a module when you have a power supply working for it and good ground but the module still not working so can you make a video about how to figure the problem will be on its board ?
Again thanks for the efforts 😉
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Already have videos with that sort of problem...
ruclips.net/video/MvKSdjvLkoM/видео.html
Obviously it does not mean that tis is always the problem, but gives you an idea of where to look...
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
Thank you for the reply
I will study it because I am going through this a lot and still can't fix it unless i change the module.
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To be fair, sometimes is the most cost effective option...
But not always...
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@@LMAutoRepairs true 100% but we are trying to survive 😂😂
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can any one tell me about the latest ecm,s that update through oem portals and what this means for tunners and eeprom editing will it still be possible to flash at home or are we locked out
Simple explanation...
You will struggle to access updated softwares... As they are no longer offline...
But you still able to flash at home...
Thank you for watching!
Great video as always good stuff can I ask what u use to de solder plz😀
Hi links in the video description...
Not sure if they are all active... but will give you an idea...😉
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like de portugal
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why u didnt took off the tapes?. i mean, you can give this video as proof that the fault was there at the time that car went into your hand. i honestly felt much better to see the fault light all the time until i got it fixed rather than not knowing there's hidden fault (assuming the previous owner done that bodge job)
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I informed the owner, but was not requested to touch it... so... I didn't!...
I agree, I would happily have a look at it, to make sure would be proper fixed... but...🤷♂️
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well, seems like the owner doesnt rly care
Pretty much...
Just like if the car never came with ESP... lol
Only ABS...
My speedometer is not working properly and gives a total wrong reading! It clocks all the way around when i would be only doing slow speeds. I have brought it to a mechanic 3 times and they cant seem to fix it. Can someone please give me advice on what might the problem be?
You asking what?
How can you just do that I love your love
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did you leave the tape off the ESP light so the car fails its mot . least then the car can be repaired to make it safe
he didnt took off the tape sadly. but he might have reason to leave it alone
Correct... I was not asked to touch it... I informed the owner, which did not requested to do anything... so...🤷♂️
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my type of fix .no parts just a bit time
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Not always... but most of the time... yes!
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are the brake sensors fixable?
or must be replace the unit?
Which sensor are you referring to?
It was ABS light, right? There must have been some people some could not fix the real ABS system failure (bad bearing, wiring, ABS sensor or such)....so they put tape on the light to get the car through MOT.
The brake sensors in the esp light!..
@@LMAutoRepairs in the end of video..when you are diagnosed the abs. and you talk about brake sensors.
the unit with damaged sensor is repairable?
Ah... the brake pressure sensor...
Depending on how they fail, they are repairable, but require special tools to remove them... As they are kinda pushed in in the modulator...
Congrats for your work. Im from Portugal, are you portuguese? Do you have social media ? (Instagram , etc)
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Yes, I am portuguese... not really, I am on Facebook, but don't spend much time in there... no other social media...
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What tool is that You use in that frame:
ruclips.net/video/Invy9WHJecI/видео.html
A vacuum desolder...
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Bwilliant
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