I’ve received a couple questions about the temperature within the booth since it’s being used in my garage. There was originally a section where I talked about this in the video but I chose to edit it out to keep it centered around the sound reduction. The booth comes with a ventilation system that’s mounted to the outside. It pulls the inside air out and sucks fresh air from the outside back in. This removes the CO2 buildup from within the room and keeps it comfortable inside so long as you use it in a climate controlled room. However, I chose to set mine up in the garage to have it on a concrete slab and to be further away from everyone in the house. So I purchased a portable ac unit and ran a hose from it into one of the intake valves of the ventilation system. Its pushing cold air into the booth and is working well! For all the details you can check out their website below. Btw, this is not an ad for them. I purchased this booth used and just wanted to share my experience with it. whisperroom.com
Excellent video, thank you Sir! I'd like to know more about the AC modification you made, Which AC unit did you choose and how well did it fit with the Ventilation Silencing System (VSS)? If that VSS isn't compatible or needed then I won't include it in my order.... thank you!
Absolutely one of the most valuable drum noise control videos! The different locations and the discipline of getting the measurements of the two kits, PLUS the tutorial on db/noise level relationships was so valuable, and so well done. Great editing, too - you got right to the point. Thanks, Jeff!
Ironically, I had to watch this with sound off and I don’t have headphones. So, it really put your experiments in perspective. Excellent video, and very thoughtful. I hope this goes great for you and the family.
This seems great! Did just want to point out though, in response to the comparison with a car driving by, that it's really apples and oranges -- a beat composed of short attack-heavy hits is far more distracting and attention-grabbing than the (nearly) white noise of a car driving by, which more easily fades into the background unnoticed
3:27 i love one of these, but you should add a security cam or two just so youre not totally isolated while in 'the Pocket'. (🥁 you should def. refer to it as the Pocket 😆 )
There's some low rumble coming from your cube due to what I think is probably caused by resonance/standing waves. You should try adding some bass traps in each corner to see if you can reduce the noise level even more!
Agreed . I have the single wall WR, same size dimension. I added bass traps on all corners and wall treatments . It makes a much larger dent. And I don’t have the double wall version he has. Purchased mine in 2018 for $16k and worth every penny for what it provides in reduction and isolation. I do a lot of recording in it as well. Great video Jeff!!
Make some proper acoustic panels ( sound slab insulation) rather than the foam stuff on your walls. I’ve just replaced mine, & makes so much difference.
Wow Jeff, you really drilled down into the details here and I appreciate it! I didn't know that it reduced the loudness that much. Considering that your house is very quiet inside, imagine how well they will hear it with typical activity going on inside the house such as TVs, tablets/phones and other things. Here's to hoping that you can continue to play. Thanks again for all that you do.
This is just like the practice rooms we had in college. In my music department we had these cubicles lined up inside a hall with space between the top of the practice room & the hall’s ceiling. Heavy doors with an audible swoosh of air when closing it. You still heard a little from the outside, but not enough to disrupt an ensemble rehearsal in the next room. A great investment for sure!
Normally I'd think its common sense that an isolation booth of any sort would make a big difference, and that's still the case but the level of detail you showed and experimented with to really test the difference is awesome. Great video for sure.
It's pretty astonishing just how loud drums are and even with a full iso booth, it only takes the sound down by about 3/4. Which is a lot, don't get me wrong but it does put into perspective just how much of an investment sound proofing can be.
Hey Jeff, thanks a ton for putting this up. There is no fail proof solution provided by any other videos. All the DIY and hacks are not at all working for our set at our apartment. Especially vibrations can't be controlled unless it is a double room or a cabin with air gap between the solid walls. After a several failed attempts, I'm planning to get the similar thing done. I'm planning to get a 7Feet by 6Feet, just enough and a bit more room for acoustic drum set alone. Would it bee too small to play for longer time? If possible please share the size of this cabin?
I also encounter problems such as this, when neighbors around my house are complaining about the noise when i play drums, thats why i went to buy an e drums for an alternative, so that i have full control on the volume so that i can practice at night after work, but i got an idea what sir jeff is showing us right now, on how to soundproof or better much how to transfer your studio to an ideal place such as this like a pocket room👍❤️
Mr Jeff Is it possible making a leg exercise video? My hands are getting so much better that my leg is really dragging behind. Kindly make a leg exercise as well. Thank you im advance🙏
I was about to go the route of the "soundproofed" Pergola Gazebo because of a comment on the Soundproof Your Studio channel. .. will still try that haha.
Hi, How is the air quality in the whisper-room after a few hours of practice? My concert is heat and the dropping of oxygen in that enclosed space. I am seriously considering it. loving your channel by the way.
It has a ventilation system mounted to the outside that keeps everything nice and fresh. Since I put my booth in the garage to have it on a concrete slab I use a space heater for heat and ran a hose from a portable AC unit into the ventilation system to keep it cool.
Thank you for these tests! Looked up pricing and that's an instant no for me. Playing in a small room like that also wouldn't be ideal, but hey, you've got to do what you've got to do for the family!
Man it must be a real bummer to finally move out of the storage unit into a super nice drum room only to move back into a small container again ;-) But Im glad its working out for you! Sound isolation seems pretty good!
Super cool to hear the whisper room in action. It definitely stops the mids and highs but that low end cuts through everything. If you wanted to talk about build a custom room in your garage that is practically inaudible in your kitchen let me know!
Great Video Jeff, you put a lot of awesome information in it. I also have a WhisperRoom, only 5x5 😅 double thick. Bought it during Covid so I could do online drum lessons. They are really amazing. Again thanks for the great video
You usually want your final mix around 96 db give or take 10db, I did this whole experiment where I played all my favorite songs on different speakers and cars and found at around 96db you do not have to play with the volume knob, you definitely start wanting to turn the volume up or down after that 10db margin so at 80db your finding yourself turning it back up.
Would be really interesting to see the comparison in sound level between your bonus room and the booth. I saw the original video describing the build process of the bonus room and I was a bit "huh-oh" that just one solid door blocks enough sound to the other parts of the house. I guess it first felt it would be enough? Glad that you found the another solution without needing to take the acoustic drums back to the storage to play!
Hello and thank you SO much for your videos. I'd invite you to lunch if I could, but I can't so...... I'm a pro/full time guy, but enough with the humblebrag. I'm been hesitating to redo a bedroom because of all the things you've talked about in your videos. Congratulations on finding a used Whisper Room, they're the best ( and most expensive) solution. Question... What's your opinion of a ClearSonic portable iso room , the padded acrylic panels ? Otherwise known as the Shield of Shame .. Thanks for all your videos and continued success to you..
I'm getting "Man tired of arguing who just wants to enjoy his thing." vibes. Hope this excellently crafted video helps in more ways than one. Keep up the great work!
And you need to decouple the thing from the floor. A lot of what you're still hearing is low frequencies being conducted through the floor and walls. While the reduction is impressive, low frequency noise tends to irritate people more than high frequencies. For that to be "whisper quiet" IMO, that should've been a 40-60 dB reduction. Considering this thing weights almost two tons, the spring risers you'd have to put in there will not be cheap.
If you want even more dampening I'd recommend putting some heavy duty wheels under the whole booth (assuming it has a rigid baseplate, if not you could just make one!) most of the noise would be leaking out of the door and be transmitted through the floor! If you don't mind how it will look you could also throw several blankets over the booth and have further noise reduction! I built my own studio recently and succeeded quite nicely with my noise spillage :)
Your lessons, your whole channel is done with a huge amount of skill and it's really a pleasure to see you get the things you need to 'upgrade' your studio. Great drumming skills too, really enjoy how you make learning so accessible. Your daughter is going to be a drummer isn't she? :))
I wonder how it would sound like with foam also on the outside the booth. Given the walls are acting like a speaker`s diaphragm the foam would reduce greatly. And some garage treatment would also benefit. Or maybe just bring lots of stuff into the garage.
I found a used one on Reverb just now for $10,000. If I play often and loud enough without a sound booth, maybe my neighbors will pitch in and buy one for me! 😅
I have 2x2 Esmono top heavy cabin in the stone garden shed, and it works perfectly. I can’t play 24/7 as you still hear it, but it reduces the sound enough for long sessions, and its perfect for recording as its super dry.
You can further Quiet your Booth by treating the Ceiling of the garage with Moving Blankets or real Corning 703 or both. The Neighbors will appreciate you.
Cool, cheers for the test Jeff! I’ve relied on super low stick height and brushes to do kit practice in a flat/apartment. That room allows for practice and perform at full volume which is wicked. Glad this solution works for you!
This is awesome dude! So stoked that you have this space to be comfortable in and not be worrying about noise anymore! I'm planning on building a similar sized drum room in my garage from scratch, since these Whisper Rooms are a little out of my budget atm.
I’ve received a couple questions about the temperature within the booth since it’s being used in my garage. There was originally a section where I talked about this in the video but I chose to edit it out to keep it centered around the sound reduction.
The booth comes with a ventilation system that’s mounted to the outside. It pulls the inside air out and sucks fresh air from the outside back in. This removes the CO2 buildup from within the room and keeps it comfortable inside so long as you use it in a climate controlled room.
However, I chose to set mine up in the garage to have it on a concrete slab and to be further away from everyone in the house. So I purchased a portable ac unit and ran a hose from it into one of the intake valves of the ventilation system. Its pushing cold air into the booth and is working well!
For all the details you can check out their website below. Btw, this is not an ad for them. I purchased this booth used and just wanted to share my experience with it.
whisperroom.com
How big is your garage?
About 23x19 feet. @@SuperSlimTrim
How did you manage to find a used drum-sized one?
Excellent video, thank you Sir! I'd like to know more about the AC modification you made, Which AC unit did you choose and how well did it fit with the Ventilation Silencing System (VSS)? If that VSS isn't compatible or needed then I won't include it in my order.... thank you!
I get the feeling half the reason for making this video was to convince the wife
Absolutely one of the most valuable drum noise control videos! The different locations and the discipline of getting the measurements of the two kits, PLUS the tutorial on db/noise level relationships was so valuable, and so well done. Great editing, too - you got right to the point. Thanks, Jeff!
God forbid someone farts inside the booth
Allow me…
You are treading on thin ice my friend. Don’t give the goblins any ideas…
Silent but deadly
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Whisper room better sponsor our boy asap, this was super informative & dude your house looks great! Happy for you! 🔥🤙🏼
Ironically, I had to watch this with sound off and I don’t have headphones. So, it really put your experiments in perspective. Excellent video, and very thoughtful. I hope this goes great for you and the family.
Bro this video is crazy!!! Whisper room should be paying you. This is such a well done video! Love your playing brotha
Looks pretty neat! My solution was mesh heads + low volume cymbals + bamboo rods. No complaint from my neighbours which I take as a compliment 😁
Same as you 👍
This was my way too
The house looks great as well. Well done man.
If I had enough room I would get that. Really nice
Lol you would also need about 30k
@@mikehens agreed lol
@@mikehensThat’s an expensive son of a bitch.
This seems great! Did just want to point out though, in response to the comparison with a car driving by, that it's really apples and oranges -- a beat composed of short attack-heavy hits is far more distracting and attention-grabbing than the (nearly) white noise of a car driving by, which more easily fades into the background unnoticed
3:27 i love one of these, but you should add a security cam or two just so youre not totally isolated while in 'the Pocket'.
(🥁 you should def. refer to it as the Pocket 😆 )
That’s a good call.
The Pocket Pocket.
There's some low rumble coming from your cube due to what I think is probably caused by resonance/standing waves. You should try adding some bass traps in each corner to see if you can reduce the noise level even more!
Agreed . I have the single wall WR, same size dimension. I added bass traps on all corners and wall treatments . It makes a much larger dent. And I don’t have the double wall version he has. Purchased mine in 2018 for $16k and worth every penny for what it provides in reduction and isolation. I do a lot of recording in it as well. Great video Jeff!!
@@timkohl-drummer8250I thought the whisper room would be completely silent. Like totally. I guess not. :/
I feel bad for the kids playing outside. They no longer get to hear Jeff's sick grooves 😞
I just pay my neighbors hush money every year AND shovel their driveways every snowstorm. I get to be as loud as I want!
vocal booth to go producers choice sound dampening blankets work wonders as well!
Make some proper acoustic panels ( sound slab insulation) rather than the foam stuff on your walls. I’ve just replaced mine, & makes so much difference.
On it!
Of all the drum influencers, you are "way ahead"! Super professional, very personable and modest in the best sense! Bravo!
Wow Jeff, you really drilled down into the details here and I appreciate it! I didn't know that it reduced the loudness that much. Considering that your house is very quiet inside, imagine how well they will hear it with typical activity going on inside the house such as TVs, tablets/phones and other things. Here's to hoping that you can continue to play. Thanks again for all that you do.
Lol this thing is over $23,000 and that's before tax and shipping! They're crazy, I can buy a car for cheaper, this is literally just a booth.
Thank you for the data Jeff, love your determination to over come noise challenges with your family. Great work.
thank for helping us to know who the sound Booth work, I hope to get one in the future.
How much is it? That’s cool to have at home
First time I heard of these things they were called kill boxes lol
This is just like the practice rooms we had in college. In my music department we had these cubicles lined up inside a hall with space between the top of the practice room & the hall’s ceiling. Heavy doors with an audible swoosh of air when closing it. You still heard a little from the outside, but not enough to disrupt an ensemble rehearsal in the next room. A great investment for sure!
Today I learned how decibels really work
Normally I'd think its common sense that an isolation booth of any sort would make a big difference, and that's still the case but the level of detail you showed and experimented with to really test the difference is awesome. Great video for sure.
When you first went into the kitchen i completely forgot that you were doing the loud kit first and thought "god what a waste of money" lol
It's pretty astonishing just how loud drums are and even with a full iso booth, it only takes the sound down by about 3/4. Which is a lot, don't get me wrong but it does put into perspective just how much of an investment sound proofing can be.
100%
Hey Jeff, thanks a ton for putting this up. There is no fail proof solution provided by any other videos. All the DIY and hacks are not at all working for our set at our apartment. Especially vibrations can't be controlled unless it is a double room or a cabin with air gap between the solid walls. After a several failed attempts, I'm planning to get the similar thing done. I'm planning to get a 7Feet by 6Feet, just enough and a bit more room for acoustic drum set alone. Would it bee too small to play for longer time? If possible please share the size of this cabin?
I also encounter problems such as this, when neighbors around my house are complaining about the noise when i play drums, thats why i went to buy an e drums for an alternative, so that i have full control on the volume so that i can practice at night after work, but i got an idea what sir jeff is showing us right now, on how to soundproof or better much how to transfer your studio to an ideal place such as this like a pocket room👍❤️
Mr Jeff Is it possible making a leg exercise video? My hands are getting so much better that my leg is really dragging behind. Kindly make a leg exercise as well. Thank you im advance🙏
I was about to go the route of the "soundproofed" Pergola Gazebo because of a comment on the Soundproof Your Studio channel. .. will still try that haha.
Did anyone catch if the total outer dimensions were shared? edit: found in another video, 8’8”x12’2”.
Awesome. But cost ? New/used.
tight beats, I wouldn't complain as your neighbor. 😊🤘
It's probably around 110 degrees in there.
Buying just the right air unit (+installation) would be a significant cost.
I’d recommend checking out my pinned comment in the comment section.
Hi, How is the air quality in the whisper-room after a few hours of practice?
My concert is heat and the dropping of oxygen in that enclosed space.
I am seriously considering it.
loving your channel by the way.
It has a ventilation system mounted to the outside that keeps everything nice and fresh. Since I put my booth in the garage to have it on a concrete slab I use a space heater for heat and ran a hose from a portable AC unit into the ventilation system to keep it cool.
Who else thinks that kit #1 at 6:37 sounded awesome?!
I thought the same, kick is very punchy
I think if you insulted that garage door you would about have it done.
That is thin sheet metal. Cheap easy addition.
Being inside that soundproof booth inside your garage… does it get hot? I can imagine being in there during summer being like a sauna.
I think the only realistic solution for drum kit noise is an underground bunker
Thank you for these tests! Looked up pricing and that's an instant no for me. Playing in a small room like that also wouldn't be ideal, but hey, you've got to do what you've got to do for the family!
The price is considerable. Thankfully I was able to find one used.
Man it must be a real bummer to finally move out of the storage unit into a super nice drum room only to move back into a small container again ;-)
But Im glad its working out for you! Sound isolation seems pretty good!
Yeah buddy, it was a tough call.
@jeffrandalldrumming the model you have is it the single or double wall configuration?
It’s the double.
First rule of sound booth is you do not fart in the sound booth.
Super cool to hear the whisper room in action. It definitely stops the mids and highs but that low end cuts through everything. If you wanted to talk about build a custom room in your garage that is practically inaudible in your kitchen let me know!
Thanks for watching Wilson! I’ll definitely give you a shout in the future if I decide to build something.
Top drawer content as usual 👍
Thanks Jeff 🙏🇬🇧
if you have to make it have no sound you can put a bit of sound dampening in the garage walls
or you could just buy a high end electronic drums and just use the acoustic for gigs.
Great Video Jeff, you put a lot of awesome information in it. I also have a WhisperRoom, only 5x5 😅 double thick. Bought it during Covid so I could do online drum lessons. They are really amazing. Again thanks for the great video
This thing costs $25K... let them bring the cops ;)
Super awesome! Do you plan on leaving the "studio" as is for filming or what not?
Nope! We’re going to demo it and use it as a playroom for our daughter. :)
You usually want your final mix around 96 db give or take 10db, I did this whole experiment where I played all my favorite songs on different speakers and cars and found at around 96db you do not have to play with the volume knob, you definitely start wanting to turn the volume up or down after that 10db margin so at 80db your finding yourself turning it back up.
Can you share the size and spec of this boom :) thanks
Would be really interesting to see the comparison in sound level between your bonus room and the booth. I saw the original video describing the build process of the bonus room and I was a bit "huh-oh" that just one solid door blocks enough sound to the other parts of the house. I guess it first felt it would be enough? Glad that you found the another solution without needing to take the acoustic drums back to the storage to play!
My wife wants me to get one of these for my electric kit!😅
Hello and thank you SO much for your videos. I'd invite you to lunch if I could, but I can't so...... I'm a pro/full time guy, but enough with the humblebrag. I'm been hesitating to redo a bedroom because of all the things you've talked about in your videos. Congratulations on finding a used Whisper Room, they're the best ( and most expensive) solution. Question... What's your opinion of a ClearSonic portable iso room , the padded acrylic panels ? Otherwise known as the Shield of Shame .. Thanks for all your videos and continued success to you..
PERFECT. exactly what I was looking for with the enhanced room. Many thanks.
Very interesting. Great production quality and informative. Subscribed
Wish I could have this, for now electronic will work.
I am guessing that this does not apply for living in condo building ?
I'm getting "Man tired of arguing who just wants to enjoy his thing." vibes. Hope this excellently crafted video helps in more ways than one. Keep up the great work!
And you need to decouple the thing from the floor. A lot of what you're still hearing is low frequencies being conducted through the floor and walls. While the reduction is impressive, low frequency noise tends to irritate people more than high frequencies. For that to be "whisper quiet" IMO, that should've been a 40-60 dB reduction. Considering this thing weights almost two tons, the spring risers you'd have to put in there will not be cheap.
Waste of money playing loud is easy learn to play quietly
If you want even more dampening I'd recommend putting some heavy duty wheels under the whole booth (assuming it has a rigid baseplate, if not you could just make one!) most of the noise would be leaking out of the door and be transmitted through the floor!
If you don't mind how it will look you could also throw several blankets over the booth and have further noise reduction!
I built my own studio recently and succeeded quite nicely with my noise spillage :)
The company that produces these things is using this video on their website (as an embed). That's pretty freaking cool!
Your lessons, your whole channel is done with a huge amount of skill and it's really a pleasure to see you get the things you need to 'upgrade' your studio. Great drumming skills too, really enjoy how you make learning so accessible. Your daughter is going to be a drummer isn't she? :))
odery drum? is it a brazilian reference?
Or just buy an e kit all mesh heads
To me, spending a $500/600ish? On nice mesh heads and meinl/zildian low volume cymbals is much more practical lol
I wonder how it would sound like with foam also on the outside the booth. Given the walls are acting like a speaker`s diaphragm the foam would reduce greatly. And some garage treatment would also benefit. Or maybe just bring lots of stuff into the garage.
I found a used one on Reverb just now for $10,000. If I play often and loud enough without a sound booth, maybe my neighbors will pitch in and buy one for me! 😅
I have 2x2 Esmono top heavy cabin in the stone garden shed, and it works perfectly.
I can’t play 24/7 as you still hear it, but it reduces the sound enough for long sessions, and its perfect for recording as its super dry.
Was the garage door open, the screen covered it 🤔
Can you breathe, looks hot inside 😅
You can further Quiet your Booth by treating the Ceiling of the garage with Moving Blankets or real Corning 703 or both. The Neighbors will appreciate you.
Dude this is so nice! Perfect size, I want one!!!!! I cant afford it {cry face} lol
Great video. Do you know if this has the standard or enhanced (double) walls?
I thought that sound booth was really cool until I saw the $17000 retail price.
Those rooms are $25K or more new. Not cheap
OSHA says that hearing protection must be worn above 85 db
That’s a serious game changer. Wifey can definitely sleep well in the bedroom.
I see the vad 500 series… how much decibels less than acoustic kit? Thanks
You're featured on their website!
Really interesting topic. If I needed to be more quiet I would consider this to be a great option!
You can work on low volume playing when the family need a very quiet environment.
Looks amazing! Hopes it works out for everyone 👍🏻
God bless you jeff! Maybe God led yourt to this booth to play your drum set! More!
Interesting video. Must be great to have the option to play acoustic drums at home. That’s my dream.
Cool, cheers for the test Jeff! I’ve relied on super low stick height and brushes to do kit practice in a flat/apartment. That room allows for practice and perform at full volume which is wicked. Glad this solution works for you!
Neighborgs and Family sucks
Haha
I’m happy that you finally got that space to play and do what you do best Jeff. Also, CONGRATS ON THE KID ! :)
This is awesome dude! So stoked that you have this space to be comfortable in and not be worrying about noise anymore! I'm planning on building a similar sized drum room in my garage from scratch, since these Whisper Rooms are a little out of my budget atm.
Great segment Jeff. I’ve seen the Whisper Room but never a review on it. 👍🏻
Dude thank you for this, many questions answered. I’ve researched this for years
Quick Add: every 6dB is double the perceived volume and every 20dB is 10times as loud. That’s logarithmic :)
That’s correct! Though it’s a bit more complex as I learned. Check this out: ruclips.net/video/WZLQoP6CM0k/видео.htmlsi=-a7OEVt-adaB_byx
Dude. That is a dream setup wow. I would literally eat and sleep in there
Odery drums 😮💨🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
Doesn't it get stuffy in there?
Hopefully you pipe fresh air into it
Yes indeed, it has a ventilation system.