Your videos are incredible! Good editing, timing, reasoning, explanation, capture... I've already watched all the videos on your channel. Thank you for sharing. Success for you!
Fantastic detailed video. Would be interesting to get feedback from your client's perspective over time, when he does a band rehearsal and how the vocal booth sounds. In real time, how long did it take you to construct that booth from start to finish?
This build took a few weeks as it was done throughout the holidays and had other jobs on the go. However if you had the dedicated time and all materials on site would be way less time. I was also working solo for majority of the build. Thanks for watching!
That is an amazing amount of planning and work! It must be in a cold climate as I didn't see any ventilation other than the sliding window on the door? Down here in Florida we have to get cool dry air in else you sweat out from humidity. Well done!
Great video! I have a question about the interior walls now being reflective due to the dry wall. Will that be treated with some type of acoustic panels or will it just be dry wall? Thanks!
looks good. no ceiling joists? i understand the need for ventilation but that single hung window in the door is negating all your hard work insulating.
We had to leave the ceiling open so the electrician could have access to relocate the existing light. Yes i explained the issue with the window to the client, however he wanted a solution that would allow him to be able to see his band mates while playing and have ventilation built in. Within his budget this ended up being our best bet. Thanks for watching!
I wouldn’t recommend using it as acoustic treatment compared to other options like acoustic insulation such as Owens Corning or rockwool or equivalent products. It is great however for the application it is designed for in sound isolating construction. If you need treatment that is very low profile (under 1 inch thick) I’d suggest a PET felt sheet product since it does not require fabric covering and is already finished surface in multiple colours. Either way will only be attenuating higher frequencies with material that thin. Hope that helps! Thanks for watching
@@soundheadquarters Do you think because it's too reflective/not porus enough? Potentially being a back or front layer to a bass trap/corner trap would increase the efficacy of controlling the low frequencies. We all know the 703/705/Comfortboard and Rockwool S&S work great, however the Sonopan is relatively inexpensive in comparison and might be able to improve the performance for those lower nodes.
great video, quick question though. Is there a way to make a soundproof room without sacrificing AC or fan? I live in a hot area and i cant have a "AC-less" or "fanless" soudnproof room
Im wondering since its in a basement if using some sort of waterproof underlayment under the floated floor would help in case of leakage from pipes? Never can be too careful
I wanna try this out for myself, been recording music in my room for awhile now but only when everyone’s sleep or when no one’s home cause I don’t want em to hear me. What would be a good option for me? Maybe turning a lil shed into a studio working with my resources?
I have been on builds that have used both, here in the Toronto Canada area Sonopan is a more common alternative to mass loaded vinyl however mass loaded vinyl still has its place and purposes. Green glue I have seen used with varying degrees of effectiveness. I usually advocate for getting as much mass and density in the wall structure as the client can, and ensuring that the build and installation process is completed correctly. Thanks for watching!
For this client that choice was made due to cost, and he plans on adding acoustic treatment to the inside of the booth at a later date. Thanks for watching!
If my space isn't as big is it possible to build a smaller one? I dont like the idea of the pvc booths. I want an actual booth in my office in the basement.
While you're work is admirable and very professional, this booth excludes the many recording enthusiasts and beginners that don't have the resources, DIY skills, or even the room to build this. 0:58 'relocated by the electrician later on'. I need to hire an electrician? 1:12 Sonopan X will break the bank - any other materials that are less expensive? 2:08 'the client's garage' - so this is a professional job, one that the client can't undertake by themselves? 3:26 '..so that the electrician can re-locate that light'.. that electrician again - he'll have a big pay day! - can't you do something a little more DIY? 4:05 '.. and I've got Christian helping out today' - so it's at least a two-man job? 4:14 More Sonopan X?? This is getting into Abbey Road territory - the budget I'm talking about. Etc, etc.. Overall I'd say there's around 5 different skills going on here. Thankfully you have the video going at about 4 x playback speed - nice and speedy? Lol.. Want a quick and inexpensive booth to help launch your recording enthusiasm? Get some PVC piping and make a frame (you can buy interlocking PVC corners). Place frame on top of couple of rugs, cover frame with load of old towels (buy from charity shops) cover towels with continental quilts - Bob's your uncle. Great job, btw.
I am not sure this comment will be responded to, but is there a tutorial of how to build a modular booth, which you can pack up and move if you want. How to construct something the way STUDIOBRICKS vocal booth are done.? Like legos you just snap each piece together till it's all a booth, if you know what I mean. How to create lego walls that still solid enough. Can't afford 15k USD for those ready-made booths. Show us how it can be done, or somehow give us ideas. Thanks
Depends what your goals and needs are, do you need sound isolation from other sources? Or do you just need to improve the room response of your vocal recordings? A good modular solution would be to build rolling acoustic panels aka GOBO’s and one more panel to act as the ceiling. This would not help with isolation however. You could build studio bricks style rooms as well, however the time in design plus all correct materials and correct construction would add up quickly. Depends what your priorities and budget is but there are certainly many ways to solve the problem cheaper than studio bricks
Ok - I typically really like these videos, but after building my own studio... this particular one contains a few things that I did that became my biggest mistakes. The end product of this is a very small untreated tin can, with no venitlation. Someone is going to be sweating and breathing a lot in here...(singing - performing). So they are just going to be opening that window... making the booth useless in its function. In order to make it sound even kind of usable, they are going to have to line the entire interior of it with another layer of insulation.... making it even smaller. I usually like these videos but from my experience this particular one has major issues.
I agree completely! All of these issues were discussed with the client prior to the build. He already had things mapped out how he wanted size and budget wise. I was just contracted to do the build to his spec and I film and share the process. I would have done things differently as well if it were my personal space, however I’m happy to build however my clients want their finished product. My channel shouldn’t be taken as advice for best acoustic practices, there’s many other channels that do a much better job of that than I ever could. I just like to showcase my work and processes for people to learn and make building projects themselves more accessible. I’m happy if they learn what not to do just as much as what to do. I appreciate you watching and for your comment, anything that helps the community learn and engage is a win in my books!
Dang man. Seems you are the end all be all of studio acoustics.... Where is your LLC. Easy to hunt and peck on a keyboard. I'd say this guy is doing all right and is probably well better off than you... I'm sure I'm not the only one that will be anxiously waiting all your genius studio builds coming to your channel very soon!!😂😂🤡
@@skypallman6169 Why would OP need to share his "genius studio build" here? He just raised a valid point of this "studio" being acoustically untreated and without ventilation. He did it very tactfully and in a spirit of constructive criticism ;) Whether the video author is better off or not, isn't important here at all. My Polish builder in London who is brilliant at his job (and a wealthy guy as a result) could build exactly the same contraption - small, oddly shaped room with XLR sockets. At the end of the day client is always right...
@@KarolWalkowski bc he spoke as if he was in the room and heard every discussion about this build. Easy to sit back and point things out that maybe were not particularly stated in the video for time or importance. The point being, seems like he knows what he is doing and was aware of things stated . Easy to pick apart things from afar without knowing what was discussed between him and the customer.
Idk, I mean the fact that you used sonopan as a floating floor on a concrete floor directly shows that you don't really know what you're doing in terms of studio design. Looks great though.
The floor in this garage was wood subfloor. Even if it was concrete slab, Sonopan x is rated for that application. I’d suggest heading over to Sonopans website and reading up on Sonopan X, their floor product. Lots of great info regarding the proper applications and use cases under their installation guide.
@@soundheadquarters it looked like concrete. Nonetheless, it looks like the sonopan is meant for a two-apartment house under the upper floor's flooring. I don't think it will really do anything as Sonopan will not block the lower frequencies that will transfer through a floor. What you need to do is limit the amount of surface area that is mated to the floor to inhibit the lower frequencies from transferring. Any higher frequencies can be dealt with at the floor level, not the sub-floor.
@@Nocholas The client was first given the option of rubber isolation spikes and additional subfloor framing and insulation however he needed an option that would retain as much ceiling height as possible since the booth was being built in the location where the ceiling was already around 7 feet. I work with my clients to provide solutions that meet their specific needs and expectations, after all it is their money and their space. In a perfect world everyone would have a world class studio in their backyard ;) however most people’s spaces is a compromise between budget and existing location, while working within the circumstances that may inhibit the most ideal build.
Your videos are incredible! Good editing, timing, reasoning, explanation, capture... I've already watched all the videos on your channel. Thank you for sharing. Success for you!
Thank you I really appreciate that! Thanks for watching
Love your channel
Great work as always 🫡
Thank you I appreciate it! Thanks for watching
Fantastic detailed video. Would be interesting to get feedback from your client's perspective over time, when he does a band rehearsal and how the vocal booth sounds. In real time, how long did it take you to construct that booth from start to finish?
This build took a few weeks as it was done throughout the holidays and had other jobs on the go. However if you had the dedicated time and all materials on site would be way less time. I was also working solo for majority of the build. Thanks for watching!
Great job brother.Man of many talents.Happy New Year Daniel.
Joe
Thank you Joe! Same to you happy new year!
That is an amazing amount of planning and work! It must be in a cold climate as I didn't see any ventilation other than the sliding window on the door? Down here in Florida we have to get cool dry air in else you sweat out from humidity. Well done!
Your overhauling mixes series is always a great watch! Excited to see how the channel grows 😊
Great video! I have a question about the interior walls now being reflective due to the dry wall. Will that be treated with some type of acoustic panels or will it just be dry wall? Thanks!
Yes the client plans on treating the walls with large acoustic panels. Thanks for watching!
looks good. no ceiling joists? i understand the need for ventilation but that single hung window in the door is negating all your hard work insulating.
We had to leave the ceiling open so the electrician could have access to relocate the existing light. Yes i explained the issue with the window to the client, however he wanted a solution that would allow him to be able to see his band mates while playing and have ventilation built in. Within his budget this ended up being our best bet. Thanks for watching!
Thoughts on using Sonopan in traditional Acoustic treatment, such as panels and corner traps?
I wouldn’t recommend using it as acoustic treatment compared to other options like acoustic insulation such as Owens Corning or rockwool or equivalent products. It is great however for the application it is designed for in sound isolating construction. If you need treatment that is very low profile (under 1 inch thick) I’d suggest a PET felt sheet product since it does not require fabric covering and is already finished surface in multiple colours. Either way will only be attenuating higher frequencies with material that thin. Hope that helps! Thanks for watching
@@soundheadquarters Do you think because it's too reflective/not porus enough?
Potentially being a back or front layer to a bass trap/corner trap would increase the efficacy of controlling the low frequencies. We all know the 703/705/Comfortboard and Rockwool S&S work great, however the Sonopan is relatively inexpensive in comparison and might be able to improve the performance for those lower nodes.
It’s worth some experimenting for sure! I personally haven’t seen it used in those applications, but I’d be curious as well if anyone gives it a shot.
great video, quick question though. Is there a way to make a soundproof room without sacrificing AC or fan? I live in a hot area and i cant have a "AC-less" or "fanless" soudnproof room
ac is possible even in a soundproof space but is more technical then this solution.
Im wondering since its in a basement if using some sort of waterproof underlayment under the floated floor would help in case of leakage from pipes? Never can be too careful
What state are you located in? What’s the cost of this exact set up?
Do you have plans for this that can be shared?
I wanna try this out for myself, been recording music in my room for awhile now but only when everyone’s sleep or when no one’s home cause I don’t want em to hear me. What would be a good option for me? Maybe turning a lil shed into a studio working with my resources?
Hi can i ask how much this cost ?
What measurements did you guys use? Like for what you drew on the floor
Do you ever use mass loaded vinyl? Or use green glue in between the sheetrock?
I have been on builds that have used both, here in the Toronto Canada area Sonopan is a more common alternative to mass loaded vinyl however mass loaded vinyl still has its place and purposes. Green glue I have seen used with varying degrees of effectiveness. I usually advocate for getting as much mass and density in the wall structure as the client can, and ensuring that the build and installation process is completed correctly. Thanks for watching!
@@soundheadquarters thanks for replying and spreading your knowledge! Keep up the good work!
How to build a sound isolated echo chamber
Very nice vidéos. Question : Drywall does not sound good at all so why using drywall instead of Plywood?
For this client that choice was made due to cost, and he plans on adding acoustic treatment to the inside of the booth at a later date. Thanks for watching!
How much did you invest in this.
LOVE IT!
If my space isn't as big is it possible to build a smaller one? I dont like the idea of the pvc booths. I want an actual booth in my office in the basement.
While you're work is admirable and very professional, this booth excludes the many recording enthusiasts and beginners that don't have the resources, DIY skills, or even the room to build this.
0:58 'relocated by the electrician later on'. I need to hire an electrician?
1:12 Sonopan X will break the bank - any other materials that are less expensive?
2:08 'the client's garage' - so this is a professional job, one that the client can't undertake by themselves?
3:26 '..so that the electrician can re-locate that light'.. that electrician again - he'll have a big pay day! - can't you do something a little more DIY?
4:05 '.. and I've got Christian helping out today' - so it's at least a two-man job?
4:14 More Sonopan X?? This is getting into Abbey Road territory - the budget I'm talking about.
Etc, etc..
Overall I'd say there's around 5 different skills going on here. Thankfully you have the video going at about 4 x playback speed - nice and speedy? Lol..
Want a quick and inexpensive booth to help launch your recording enthusiasm? Get some PVC piping and make a frame (you can buy interlocking PVC corners). Place frame on top of couple of rugs, cover frame with load of old towels (buy from charity shops) cover towels with continental quilts - Bob's your uncle.
Great job, btw.
I am not sure this comment will be responded to,
but is there a tutorial of how to build a modular booth, which you can pack up and move if you want. How to construct something the way STUDIOBRICKS vocal booth are done.?
Like legos you just snap each piece together till it's all a booth, if you know what I mean.
How to create lego walls that still solid enough.
Can't afford 15k USD for those ready-made booths.
Show us how it can be done, or somehow give us ideas.
Thanks
Depends what your goals and needs are, do you need sound isolation from other sources? Or do you just need to improve the room response of your vocal recordings? A good modular solution would be to build rolling acoustic panels aka GOBO’s and one more panel to act as the ceiling. This would not help with isolation however. You could build studio bricks style rooms as well, however the time in design plus all correct materials and correct construction would add up quickly. Depends what your priorities and budget is but there are certainly many ways to solve the problem cheaper than studio bricks
Ok - I typically really like these videos, but after building my own studio... this particular one contains a few things that I did that became my biggest mistakes. The end product of this is a very small untreated tin can, with no venitlation. Someone is going to be sweating and breathing a lot in here...(singing - performing). So they are just going to be opening that window... making the booth useless in its function. In order to make it sound even kind of usable, they are going to have to line the entire interior of it with another layer of insulation.... making it even smaller. I usually like these videos but from my experience this particular one has major issues.
I agree completely! All of these issues were discussed with the client prior to the build. He already had things mapped out how he wanted size and budget wise. I was just contracted to do the build to his spec and I film and share the process. I would have done things differently as well if it were my personal space, however I’m happy to build however my clients want their finished product. My channel shouldn’t be taken as advice for best acoustic practices, there’s many other channels that do a much better job of that than I ever could. I just like to showcase my work and processes for people to learn and make building projects themselves more accessible. I’m happy if they learn what not to do just as much as what to do. I appreciate you watching and for your comment, anything that helps the community learn and engage is a win in my books!
Dang man. Seems you are the end all be all of studio acoustics.... Where is your LLC. Easy to hunt and peck on a keyboard. I'd say this guy is doing all right and is probably well better off than you... I'm sure I'm not the only one that will be anxiously waiting all your genius studio builds coming to your channel very soon!!😂😂🤡
@@skypallman6169 Why would OP need to share his "genius studio build" here? He just raised a valid point of this "studio" being acoustically untreated and without ventilation. He did it very tactfully and in a spirit of constructive criticism ;)
Whether the video author is better off or not, isn't important here at all. My Polish builder in London who is brilliant at his job (and a wealthy guy as a result) could build exactly the same contraption - small, oddly shaped room with XLR sockets.
At the end of the day client is always right...
@@KarolWalkowski bc he spoke as if he was in the room and heard every discussion about this build. Easy to sit back and point things out that maybe were not particularly stated in the video for time or importance. The point being, seems like he knows what he is doing and was aware of things stated . Easy to pick apart things from afar without knowing what was discussed between him and the customer.
@@skypallman6169lol. Shut up. You're just talking word salad
Idk, I mean the fact that you used sonopan as a floating floor on a concrete floor directly shows that you don't really know what you're doing in terms of studio design. Looks great though.
The floor in this garage was wood subfloor. Even if it was concrete slab, Sonopan x is rated for that application. I’d suggest heading over to Sonopans website and reading up on Sonopan X, their floor product. Lots of great info regarding the proper applications and use cases under their installation guide.
@@soundheadquarters it looked like concrete. Nonetheless, it looks like the sonopan is meant for a two-apartment house under the upper floor's flooring. I don't think it will really do anything as Sonopan will not block the lower frequencies that will transfer through a floor. What you need to do is limit the amount of surface area that is mated to the floor to inhibit the lower frequencies from transferring. Any higher frequencies can be dealt with at the floor level, not the sub-floor.
@@Nocholas The client was first given the option of rubber isolation spikes and additional subfloor framing and insulation however he needed an option that would retain as much ceiling height as possible since the booth was being built in the location where the ceiling was already around 7 feet. I work with my clients to provide solutions that meet their specific needs and expectations, after all it is their money and their space. In a perfect world everyone would have a world class studio in their backyard ;) however most people’s spaces is a compromise between budget and existing location, while working within the circumstances that may inhibit the most ideal build.
Sounds boxy and muffled
confused why youre using sheetrock? sheet rock is horrible for acoustics, also your room shape is not going to be great for vocals