Quotes from the book Rocky Marciano: The Rock of his times 2005 author Russell Sullivan "One of the greatest champs ever." - Sonny Liston "Hardest puncher I ever fought." - Joe Louis "The one fighter who might have beaten me." - Muhammad Ali "My manager waited for him to retire before I dared fight him as a heavyweight." - Floyd Patterson The hardest puncher I ever saw in 50 years in boxing." - Don Turner, trainer for Evander Holyfield "Ali wouldn't have tried rope-a-dope on Marciano cause Marciano would have KOd him." - Joe Frazier "Hit harder than anyone I ever fought." - Ezzard Charles "Hit harder than anyone ever." - Jersey Joe Walcott "Like fighting an airplane propeller." - Archie Moore "Trained harder than anyone ever." - Don Turner, trainer "Hit you so hard it jar your kin folk in Africa." - Muhammad Ali "Broke blood vessels in my arm just hitting me. Took weeks for my arm to recover." - Roland LaStarza "One of the hardest punchers who ever lived." - George Foreman If that is not respect, I don't know what is.
Earnie Shavers Puncher of The Century is known for being the hardest puncher in heavyweight boxing history. He scored 68 knockout wins, including 23 in the first round. He holds a 76.4% overall knockout ratio. So powerful, both Joe Frazier and George Foreman told boxing writer Jerry Eisenberg they would never fight Shavers. Real fighters knew enough to avoid him. His incredible one punch power made him more than dangerous. George Foreman told him personally when Earnie lobbied for a fight, "hell no." Joe Frazier told Shavers bluntly when Shavers asked him for a shot, "No way, Earnie.” Hall of Fame and all time greats Ali and Holmes both said Shavers power, especially his one punch power, was simply unrivaled. But they, and others, also said a lot more.. Angelo Dundee, the great trainer, said "Earnie wasn't really a good boxer, but God, his power was amazing." Muhammad Ali said after his match with Shavers, "Earnie hit me so hard, he shook my kinfolk back in Africa" And when fighters had to meet him, they left in awe. Tex Cobb said "Earnie could punch you in the neck with his right hand and break your ankle." He also said, "if a man hit any harder than Earnie I'd shoot him." Ron Lyle: "Hey man, that's the hardest I've ever been hit in my life. And George Foreman could punch, but none of them could hit like Earnie Shavers did. When he hit you, the lights went out. I can laugh about it now, but at the time it wasn't funny." Larry Holmes, comparing Shavers to Tyson, said "Earnie hit me harder than any other fighter, including Mike Tyson. He hit me and I was face down on the canvas hearing saxophonist Jimmy Tillis." Jimmy Young, who was knocked cold by Shavers in his first fight, but survived the second, said "I was not gonna get tagged by him again, no sir!" Nor were fighters and trainers the only ones who saw and marveled at Shavers sheer overwhelming power. Hall of Fame sports journalist Jerry Izenberg said of Shavers, "rarely did Earnie hit anyone below the neck; he was a headhunter and a good one. For me, Shavers was the greatest one-punch hitter I have ever seen." "However, while Shavers struck serious fear into his opponents, such freakishly big hitting power had its drawbacks for the man himself," said Kenny Rainford. “Being such a big puncher actually hurt my career,” says Shavers. “I relied on my power too much. I wish I’d had trainers that could have taught me more about combination punches." “I used to gas out in five or six rounds because I put that much effort into my punches and it was impossible to punch for an entire fight without tiring out." In the years that followed, Rainford met Ali and asked him about the famous fight with Shavers. “I can not remember the last round of our fight,” Ali admitted. “He hit me so hard that for fourteenth round, I was on autopilot. I can’t remember a thing. When I’ve watched the fight back, and see the way I rallied in the fifteenth round, I was doing that off memory.” Shavers reigned down on Ali with 266 punches that night. Afterwards, Rainford claims, the New York commission stated Ali would never fight in New York again after doctors discovered tears on his brain. Eig's study, conducted by Arizona State speech scientists Visar Berisha and Julie Liss found that Ali's speech slowed by 16 percent after a 15-round bout with Ernie Shavers in 1977. Shavers, a brawler, landed 266 punches throughout the fight. If one fight had to be picked, Ernie Shavers inflicted the most damage. Shavers is directly responsibly for the early retirements of Ron Asher, Frank Smith, Bunky Akins, Bill McMurray, Harold Carter, Eddie Parotte and Larry Sims, all of whom he knocked out and never fought again.
Muhammad Ali said in "The Greatest": "with George I had to let him hit me, with Sonny I had to keep him from hitting me!” Rocky Marciano said of Liston: “He isn't faking his toughness, and his strength is just something you got to see, and that jab, he can knock a man out with the jab!" When asked how he would have fought him, the Rock shook his head and said “I’d have done my best, but Lord God he is strong…” Joe Louis said in Gods of War: "It didn’t matter what stance Sonny fought from, he was the best I ever saw.” Nino Valdes, as he lay dying from cancer, drugged heavily with morphine, was asked by his family if it hurt, and said: “Not as bad as getting hit by Sonny Liston!" Sonny Liston v. Wayne Bethea Aug 1958 -- Referee stops the fight upon discovering many of Bethea's teeth in his mouthpiece. Bethea, a tough journeyman who had never been off his feet, said after being stopped by Liston: “He must have hit me with a horseshoe in his glove!" Liston hit Bethea and knocked out 7 of his teeth, broke 9 more for 16 lost teeth from one blow! Zora Folley, then #1 contender for the heavyweight title, said when Liston hit him: “The lights went out, when I woke up, I asked Sonny, what happened, and he said ‘I hit you." Jonathan Eig wrote of Sonny in Ali: A Life: “Liston does not merely defeat his opponents. He breaks them, shames them, haunts them, leaves them flinching from his punches in their dreams." "When Sonny was forced to throw the Ali rematch, his reputation and legacy went down with him. A predominantly white, racist media always feared and hated Liston, and were only too happy to humiliate him after that bout, and forget about him almost entirely after he died." -- author Paul Gallender The story of Liston winning the title from Patterson, memorizing a thank-you speech to deliver when he arrived back home (memorized because he couldn’t read) and then realizing nobody was waiting for him at the airport, and how crushed he was... fuckin' sad, man. Sonny was born into a family that couldn't afford for him to go to school, and when the family mule died, his mother and sisters claimed Sonny's father hitched his 9 year old son to the plow....Liston was a different breed; what a specimen
"186 the best weight i ever fought at, small for a heavyweight," and, "but i always fought-em bigger than myself," and "sometimes having to take 2 or 3 punches to get one in." -- words of knowledge straight from Rocky Marciano himself @The Marciano Tapes #1 (out of 3).
Little white Rocky was slow as molasses. They wouldn't stand a chance against modern era Heavyweights. And the Peds have nothing to do with anything. It's the multi mega million dollar purses that's pulling in more authentic Super Heavyweights from the football fields and basketball courts.
You white Marciano lovers 💕 adore little Rocky's high-work-rate, but 6'2" 237 lb Ike "The President" Ibeabuchi threw a record breaking 975 punches vs David Tua in their 12 round fight, more than tiny penguin🐧arms was capable of. Authentic Heavyweight Ibeabuchi would've manhandled small Rocco and smashed him like a 🍇 grape.
I have defended Marciano's name for an entire decade and he will always be my favorite bar none. But two of the HOF fighters that Rocky fought were light heavyweights that simply moved up for the money because the 1950s heavyweight division was completely void of any prime authentic 200+lb "Heavyweights"
Rocky Marciano said of Liston, "he isn't faking his toughness, and his strength is just something you got to see, and that jab, he can knock a man out with the jab!" When asked how he would have fought him, the Rock shook his head and said “I’d have done my best, but Lord God he is strong…”
@Bobby D For pro fighters, even a relatively small difference in weight can lead to a huge advantage. Weight classes eliminate this kind of disparity, ensuring that skill remains the most important factor in determining the victor. With fewer weight classes, a smaller boxer would have poor odds of ever becoming a champion, no matter their skill. Furthermore, weight classes are designed with boxer's safety in mind. In a mismatched fight, the smaller opponent stands a much greater risk of suffering a serious injury. Simply put, boxing is dangerous enough already without pitting smaller fighters against physically larger opponents. Sportscasting | Pure Sports Why Are There So Many Boxing Weight Classes? by Rick Thomas | Published on April 14, 2020 [[[[[ 🏋️""SIZE-MATTERS""🏋️ ]]]]] NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING HAS A 190 LB MAN BEAT AN ELITE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT BOXING CHAMPION🥊
@Bobby D ALL HAIL THE GOAT KING FURY Two hundred seventy seven pounds of undefeated destruction. Fury would keep little Rocky at arm's length and force him back whenever he felt crowded. He'd jab, turn and flummox him for as long as wanted, and if Fury felt so inclined, he'd walk him down Kronk style and grind out a stoppage. And none of this, "if he can't reach his head he'll go to the body", either. That's just bull****. Fury's lead would keep Marciano too far away as is. Rocky ain't gettin the opportunities to impose his workrate and definitely doesn't hit hard enough to stop him. Fury jabs him into oblivion. Heck, Fury can land 4 or 5 jabs a round and win the round. King Fury wins! Anyway he chooses! Fury is a titan amongst mere mortals. Generations of dna forged to create the perfect Super Heavyweight boxer. I'm just so grateful i get to see it in my lifetime. Transport Fury back to that little 1950s cruiserweight era and 'The King' woulda went 149-0 with 100% KO's! [[[[[ 🏋️""SIZE-MATTERS""🏋️ ]]]]] NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING HAS A 190 LB MAN BEAT AN ELITE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT BOXING CHAMPION🥊
Rocky’s assessment of Joe Frazier was right on target. Funny hearing him say that Ellis was a cute fighter. Rocky’s comments on other boxers were always clear and definitive.
Rocky Marciano was a great fighter during a transitional time in boxing. He retired before Nino Valdes, Sonny Liston and Floyd Patterson were ready for title shots. The two reasons he retired was 1. He was sick of dealing with Al Weil who was stealing from him and disrespecting his beloved father and friends. 2. His back and the rest of his body was wearing out from the maniacal training regime he put himself through with virtually no breaks in 8 years. He just got sick of it. I don't believe he ever ducked anyone, but Jim Norris, the mob and the IBC did manipulate which fighters were contenders, so perhaps Nino Valdes could have gotten a title shot when Rocky was still fighting as he destroyed Tommy Hurricane Jackson in 2 rounds, but Valdes wasn't connected. Also Folley, Machen and Liston were also avoided. That wasn't Rocky's fault - he could only fight the people that the boxing kingmakers at the time provided for him. Also there were unlucky events, such as Valdes losing to Archie Moore so he lost his title shot, etc. Finally, fighters like Machen (who grabbed a lot and was a negative fighter) and Folley were not box office. They were bland personalities in public and were not fan friendly fighters, so that was another reason they didn't get title shots in the 1950's. Liston of course, was just avoided by everyone (when he wasn't in jail)
Liston wasn't avoided. He had 14 or 15 wins when Rocky retired. A virtual unknown at that time. Patterson's manager waited until Rocky retired to send him into heavyweight and speaking of, Floyd is regarded as one of the greats of his time, yet when Rocky beats other light-heavyweights who went heavyweight, it's somehow considered a lesser accomplishment. He defeated the greatest light-heavyweight of all-time in Moore, but it doesn't count because it was a heavyweight bout? Funny how that works...
@@Cableguy15 I never said Liston was avoided if you look up at my comment, it states Rocky Retired before Liston and Patterson WERE READY for title shots - Floyd was fighting at 168, Liston was not upon the national scene yet in 1955, Moore was a great light heavyweight but was at least 39 before he fought Rocky. It wasn't Rocky's fault, he was in a transition era, and Moore beat Valdes which is why he got the shot, then he retired, so Valdes never got it.
@@Cableguy15 U wrote, "Rocky beats other light-heavyweights who went heavyweight, it's somehow a lesser accomplishment." YES!!! IT WAS A LESSER ACCOMPLISHMENT!!! U HAVE TO BEAT GENUINE HEAVYWEIGHTS TO BE CONSIDERED AN ALL TIME GREAT HEAVYWEIGHT
@@Cableguy15 Did u see Patterson embarrass and shame Archie Moore exactly 14 months after Moore knocked little Rocky down with a glancing blow? Patterson's entire team wanted to fight Rocky for 2 MILLION dollars but Rocky cowardly refused.
Marciano admitted his best weight he ever fought at was 186. And he always had to be the aggressor and cut off the ring so he could push his opponents towards the ropes. Imagine him trying to do that with King Fury Foreman Lewis Bowe Ibeabuchi Vitali Holmes and about another 30 other Genuine Heavyweights!!!
@@TheTruthTalker_ How is comparison nonsensical? Does it upset you that Charles only weighed 181 lbs when he won his Heavyweight title? Is it upsetting that Rocky only weighed 184 lbs when he won his Super Heavyweight title? If ya ask me it's kinda embarrassing.
@@Samantha_Lavery_Medici It's a very nonsensical comparison, because you're comparing these guys from the 50's to the guys of today. Training, nutrition, philosophy etc. was all so much different back then. A guy like Ezzard Charles for example only ate twice a day, because back then they thought that was a good thing. Rocky Marciano after his retirement was in good shape at 215 lbs, before ballooning up to idk what weight. These guys weren't heavy, because they thought being heavy wasn't a good thing. If they fought today they'd be much bigger.
@@TheTruthTalker_ Oh ok. So you're admitting that they were small. Then why is little Rocky ranked in top-5 as the greatest Heavyweight of all time? Wanna know why? Cause his position is bought through donations. Doesn't seem normal to have a little 185 lb cruiserweight ahead of Holmes Foreman and Lennox Lewis
@@Samantha_Lavery_Medici He's top 5 of all time because at his time he was a heavweight. You can't look at the past and use the measure sticks of today.
Majority of the genuine Heavyweight Champions over last 60yrs would have knocked him out. Rocky was only tested against ring-worn 37yr old Louis, 41yr old Moore and 43yr old Walcott. Charles and Moore both earned their ATG status as light heavyweights, not heavyweights. What a shame Rocky was never actually tested.
These are just some of the fighters that would KO Rocky: Fury Ibeabuchi Lewis Foreman Bowe Vitali Tyson Liston Tua Wilder Cooney Morrison Bruno Ruiz Peter Ortiz..
Wrong answer. Could the fighters of last 60 years fought in the golden age of the 50s. Fought 13 and 15 fights a year.. He started in his middle 20s. Look at the Cooper fight with Ali. Cooper knocked Ali through the ropes and put him on queer street. Ali corner used smelling salts to wake him up. That should have disqualified him. Point is if Cooper did that. The Rock would have knocked him out.
@Bobby D Archie Moore had a fantastic run at heavyweight, beating numerous 200+ lb talented prime contenders and definitively earned his shot at the title
Quotes from the book Rocky Marciano: The Rock of his times 2005 author Russell Sullivan
"One of the greatest champs ever." - Sonny Liston
"Hardest puncher I ever fought." - Joe Louis
"The one fighter who might have beaten me." - Muhammad Ali
"My manager waited for him to retire before I dared fight him as a heavyweight." - Floyd Patterson
The hardest puncher I ever saw in 50 years in boxing." - Don Turner, trainer for Evander Holyfield
"Ali wouldn't have tried rope-a-dope on Marciano cause Marciano would have KOd him." - Joe Frazier
"Hit harder than anyone I ever fought." - Ezzard Charles
"Hit harder than anyone ever." - Jersey Joe Walcott
"Like fighting an airplane propeller." - Archie Moore
"Trained harder than anyone ever." - Don Turner, trainer
"Hit you so hard it jar your kin folk in Africa." - Muhammad Ali
"Broke blood vessels in my arm just hitting me. Took weeks for my arm to recover." - Roland LaStarza
"One of the hardest punchers who ever lived." - George Foreman
If that is not respect, I don't know what is.
Earnie Shavers Puncher of The Century is known for being the hardest puncher in heavyweight boxing history. He scored 68 knockout wins, including 23 in the first round. He holds a 76.4% overall knockout ratio.
So powerful, both Joe Frazier and George Foreman told boxing writer Jerry Eisenberg they would never fight Shavers. Real fighters knew enough to avoid him. His incredible one punch power made him more than dangerous. George Foreman told him personally when Earnie lobbied for a fight, "hell no." Joe Frazier told Shavers bluntly when Shavers asked him for a shot, "No way, Earnie.”
Hall of Fame and all time greats Ali and Holmes both said Shavers power, especially his one punch power, was simply unrivaled. But they, and others, also said a lot more..
Angelo Dundee, the great trainer, said "Earnie wasn't really a good boxer, but God, his power was amazing."
Muhammad Ali said after his match with Shavers, "Earnie hit me so hard, he shook my kinfolk back in Africa"
And when fighters had to meet him, they left in awe. Tex Cobb said "Earnie could punch you in the neck with his right hand and break your ankle." He also said, "if a man hit any harder than Earnie I'd shoot him."
Ron Lyle: "Hey man, that's the hardest I've ever been hit in my life. And George Foreman could punch, but none of them could hit like Earnie Shavers did. When he hit you, the lights went out. I can laugh about it now, but at the time it wasn't funny."
Larry Holmes, comparing Shavers to Tyson, said "Earnie hit me harder than any other fighter, including Mike Tyson. He hit me and I was face down on the canvas hearing saxophonist Jimmy Tillis."
Jimmy Young, who was knocked cold by Shavers in his first fight, but survived the second, said "I was not gonna get tagged by him again, no sir!"
Nor were fighters and trainers the only ones who saw and marveled at Shavers sheer overwhelming power. Hall of Fame sports journalist Jerry Izenberg said of Shavers, "rarely did Earnie hit anyone below the neck; he was a headhunter and a good one. For me, Shavers was the greatest one-punch hitter I have ever seen."
"However, while Shavers struck serious fear into his opponents, such freakishly big hitting power had its drawbacks for the man himself," said Kenny Rainford.
“Being such a big puncher actually hurt my career,” says Shavers. “I relied on my power too much. I wish I’d had trainers that could have taught me more about combination punches."
“I used to gas out in five or six rounds because I put that much effort into my punches and it was impossible to punch for an entire fight without tiring out."
In the years that followed, Rainford met Ali and asked him about the famous fight with Shavers.
“I can not remember the last round of our fight,” Ali admitted. “He hit me so hard that for fourteenth round, I was on autopilot. I can’t remember a thing. When I’ve watched the fight back, and see the way I rallied in the fifteenth round, I was doing that off memory.”
Shavers reigned down on Ali with 266 punches that night. Afterwards, Rainford claims, the New York commission stated Ali would never fight in New York again after doctors discovered tears on his brain.
Eig's study, conducted by Arizona State speech scientists Visar Berisha and Julie Liss found that Ali's speech slowed by 16 percent after a 15-round bout with Ernie Shavers in 1977. Shavers, a brawler, landed 266 punches throughout the fight. If one fight had to be picked, Ernie Shavers inflicted the most damage.
Shavers is directly responsibly for the early retirements of Ron Asher, Frank Smith, Bunky Akins, Bill McMurray, Harold Carter, Eddie Parotte and Larry Sims, all of whom he knocked out and never fought again.
Muhammad Ali said in "The Greatest": "with George I had to let him hit me, with Sonny I had to keep him from hitting me!”
Rocky Marciano said of Liston: “He isn't faking his toughness, and his strength is just something you got to see, and that jab, he can knock a man out with the jab!" When asked how he would have fought him, the Rock shook his head and said “I’d have done my best, but Lord God he is strong…”
Joe Louis said in Gods of War: "It didn’t matter what stance Sonny fought from, he was the best I ever saw.”
Nino Valdes, as he lay dying from cancer, drugged heavily with morphine, was asked by his family if it hurt, and said: “Not as bad as getting hit by Sonny Liston!"
Sonny Liston v. Wayne Bethea Aug 1958 -- Referee stops the fight upon discovering many of Bethea's teeth in his mouthpiece. Bethea, a tough journeyman who had never been off his feet, said after being stopped by Liston: “He must have hit me with a horseshoe in his glove!" Liston hit Bethea and knocked out 7 of his teeth, broke 9 more for 16 lost teeth from one blow!
Zora Folley, then #1 contender for the heavyweight title, said when Liston hit him: “The lights went out, when I woke up, I asked Sonny, what happened, and he said ‘I hit you."
Jonathan Eig wrote of Sonny in Ali: A Life: “Liston does not merely defeat his opponents. He breaks them, shames them, haunts them, leaves them flinching from his punches in their dreams."
"When Sonny was forced to throw the Ali rematch, his reputation and legacy went down with him. A predominantly white, racist media always feared and hated Liston, and were only too happy to humiliate him after that bout, and forget about him almost entirely after he died." -- author Paul Gallender
The story of Liston winning the title from Patterson, memorizing a thank-you speech to deliver when he arrived back home (memorized because he couldn’t read) and then realizing nobody was waiting for him at the airport, and how crushed he was... fuckin' sad, man.
Sonny was born into a family that couldn't afford for him to go to school, and when the family mule died, his mother and sisters claimed Sonny's father hitched his 9 year old son to the plow....Liston was a different breed; what a specimen
The Mafia used and abused Liston. Then permanently KO d him with a drug overdose. He joined the Marilyn Monroe club.
A truly wonderful interview, w/such honest, straightforward grasp of boxing's truisms. Bravo for posting the legendary heavyweight champ's insights.
"186 the best weight i ever fought at, small for a heavyweight," and, "but i always fought-em bigger than myself," and "sometimes having to take 2 or 3 punches to get one in." -- words of knowledge straight from Rocky Marciano himself @The Marciano Tapes #1 (out of 3).
Little white Rocky was slow as molasses. They wouldn't stand a chance against modern era Heavyweights. And the Peds have nothing to do with anything. It's the multi mega million dollar purses that's pulling in more authentic Super Heavyweights from the football fields and basketball courts.
You white Marciano lovers 💕 adore little Rocky's high-work-rate, but 6'2" 237 lb Ike "The President" Ibeabuchi threw a record breaking 975 punches vs David Tua in their 12 round fight, more than tiny penguin🐧arms was capable of. Authentic Heavyweight Ibeabuchi would've manhandled small Rocco and smashed him like a 🍇 grape.
I have defended Marciano's name for an entire decade and he will always be my favorite bar none. But two of the HOF fighters that Rocky fought were light heavyweights that simply moved up for the money because the 1950s heavyweight division was completely void of any prime authentic 200+lb "Heavyweights"
Rocky Marciano said of Liston, "he isn't faking his toughness, and his strength is just something you got to see, and that jab, he can knock a man out with the jab!" When asked how he would have fought him, the Rock shook his head and said “I’d have done my best, but Lord God he is strong…”
@Bobby D WIKI NEVER REMOVED 1913
@Bobby D MOORE WAS FACTUALLY 41 WHEN HE FOUGHT MARCIANO!!! CASE CLOSED!!!
@Bobby D For pro fighters, even a relatively small difference in weight can lead to a huge advantage. Weight classes eliminate this kind of disparity, ensuring that skill remains the most important factor in determining the victor. With fewer weight classes, a smaller boxer would have poor odds of ever becoming a champion, no matter their skill. Furthermore, weight classes are designed with boxer's safety in mind. In a mismatched fight, the smaller opponent stands a much greater risk of suffering a serious injury. Simply put, boxing is dangerous enough already without pitting smaller fighters against physically larger opponents.
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Why Are There So Many Boxing Weight Classes?
by Rick Thomas | Published on April 14, 2020
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@Bobby D ALL HAIL THE GOAT KING FURY Two hundred seventy seven pounds of undefeated destruction. Fury would keep little Rocky at arm's length and force him back whenever he felt crowded. He'd jab, turn and flummox him for as long as wanted, and if Fury felt so inclined, he'd walk him down Kronk style and grind out a stoppage. And none of this, "if he can't reach his head he'll go to the body", either. That's just bull****. Fury's lead would keep Marciano too far away as is. Rocky ain't gettin the opportunities to impose his workrate and definitely doesn't hit hard enough to stop him. Fury jabs him into oblivion. Heck, Fury can land 4 or 5 jabs a round and win the round. King Fury wins! Anyway he chooses!
Fury is a titan amongst mere mortals. Generations of dna forged to create the perfect Super Heavyweight boxer. I'm just so grateful i get to see it in my lifetime. Transport Fury back to that little 1950s cruiserweight era and 'The King' woulda went 149-0 with 100% KO's!
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NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING HAS A 190 LB MAN BEAT AN ELITE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT BOXING CHAMPION🥊
Best all time Rocky
Rocky’s assessment of Joe Frazier was right on target. Funny hearing him say that Ellis was a cute fighter. Rocky’s comments on other boxers were always clear and definitive.
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Rocky Marciano was a great fighter during a transitional time in boxing. He retired before Nino Valdes, Sonny Liston and Floyd Patterson were ready for title shots. The two reasons he retired was 1. He was sick of dealing with Al Weil who was stealing from him and disrespecting his beloved father and friends. 2. His back and the rest of his body was wearing out from the maniacal training regime he put himself through with virtually no breaks in 8 years. He just got sick of it. I don't believe he ever ducked anyone, but Jim Norris, the mob and the IBC did manipulate which fighters were contenders, so perhaps Nino Valdes could have gotten a title shot when Rocky was still fighting as he destroyed Tommy Hurricane Jackson in 2 rounds, but Valdes wasn't connected. Also Folley, Machen and Liston were also avoided. That wasn't Rocky's fault - he could only fight the people that the boxing kingmakers at the time provided for him. Also there were unlucky events, such as Valdes losing to Archie Moore so he lost his title shot, etc. Finally, fighters like Machen (who grabbed a lot and was a negative fighter) and Folley were not box office. They were bland personalities in public and were not fan friendly fighters, so that was another reason they didn't get title shots in the 1950's. Liston of course, was just avoided by everyone (when he wasn't in jail)
Liston wasn't avoided. He had 14 or 15 wins when Rocky retired. A virtual unknown at that time. Patterson's manager waited until Rocky retired to send him into heavyweight and speaking of, Floyd is regarded as one of the greats of his time, yet when Rocky beats other light-heavyweights who went heavyweight, it's somehow considered a lesser accomplishment. He defeated the greatest light-heavyweight of all-time in Moore, but it doesn't count because it was a heavyweight bout? Funny how that works...
@@Cableguy15 I never said Liston was avoided if you look up at my comment, it states Rocky Retired before Liston and Patterson WERE READY for title shots - Floyd was fighting at 168, Liston was not upon the national scene yet in 1955, Moore was a great light heavyweight but was at least 39 before he fought Rocky. It wasn't Rocky's fault, he was in a transition era, and Moore beat Valdes which is why he got the shot, then he retired, so Valdes never got it.
@@Cableguy15 U wrote, "Rocky beats other light-heavyweights who went heavyweight, it's somehow a lesser accomplishment." YES!!! IT WAS A LESSER ACCOMPLISHMENT!!! U HAVE TO BEAT GENUINE HEAVYWEIGHTS TO BE CONSIDERED AN ALL TIME GREAT HEAVYWEIGHT
@@Cableguy15 Did u see Patterson embarrass and shame Archie Moore exactly 14 months after Moore knocked little Rocky down with a glancing blow? Patterson's entire team wanted to fight Rocky for 2 MILLION dollars but Rocky cowardly refused.
Marciano admitted his best weight he ever fought at was 186. And he always had to be the aggressor and cut off the ring so he could push his opponents towards the ropes. Imagine him trying to do that with King Fury Foreman Lewis Bowe Ibeabuchi Vitali Holmes and about another 30 other Genuine Heavyweights!!!
you're mentioning all these guys who came decades after Rocky. Such shitty comparisons that are nonsensical.
@@TheTruthTalker_ How is comparison nonsensical? Does it upset you that Charles only weighed 181 lbs when he won his Heavyweight title? Is it upsetting that Rocky only weighed 184 lbs when he won his Super Heavyweight title? If ya ask me it's kinda embarrassing.
@@Samantha_Lavery_Medici It's a very nonsensical comparison, because you're comparing these guys from the 50's to the guys of today. Training, nutrition, philosophy etc. was all so much different back then. A guy like Ezzard Charles for example only ate twice a day, because back then they thought that was a good thing. Rocky Marciano after his retirement was in good shape at 215 lbs, before ballooning up to idk what weight. These guys weren't heavy, because they thought being heavy wasn't a good thing. If they fought today they'd be much bigger.
@@TheTruthTalker_ Oh ok. So you're admitting that they were small. Then why is little Rocky ranked in top-5 as the greatest Heavyweight of all time? Wanna know why? Cause his position is bought through donations. Doesn't seem normal to have a little 185 lb cruiserweight ahead of Holmes Foreman and Lennox Lewis
@@Samantha_Lavery_Medici He's top 5 of all time because at his time he was a heavweight. You can't look at the past and use the measure sticks of today.
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Majority of the genuine Heavyweight Champions over last 60yrs would have knocked him out. Rocky was only tested against ring-worn 37yr old Louis, 41yr old Moore and 43yr old Walcott. Charles and Moore both earned their ATG status as light heavyweights, not heavyweights. What a shame Rocky was never actually tested.
These are just some of the fighters that would KO Rocky:
Fury Ibeabuchi Lewis Foreman Bowe Vitali Tyson Liston Tua Wilder Cooney Morrison Bruno Ruiz Peter Ortiz..
Wrong answer. Could the fighters of last 60 years fought in the golden age of the 50s. Fought 13 and 15 fights a year.. He started in his middle 20s. Look at the Cooper fight with Ali. Cooper knocked Ali through the ropes and put him on queer street. Ali corner used smelling salts to wake him up. That should have disqualified him. Point is if Cooper did that. The Rock would have knocked him out.
Please do your homework on the ages your off quite a few years.
@Bobby D Archie Moore had a fantastic run at heavyweight, beating numerous 200+ lb talented prime contenders and definitively earned his shot at the title
Both Moore and Walcott were 38 years old when they fought Marciano, not '41 and 43'', and both of them were still good fighters.