Thank you! I was hoping people noticed that. As if GayMan could be that witty; he only has good ideas, but his novels aren't that great, save American Gods, imo. Without Pratchet it would be like all Gaiman's other stuff, which I find a bit by the numbers, tbh (I've read just about all his earlier books).
I watched the first season of the "Sandman" adaptation on Netflix and EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER ended up being gay or bisexual somehow except for one (no exaggeration). I swear you could not even take a step in that series without finding out the pavement was somehow gay too.
Well, at least he created something new with that kind of characters, he didn't take something already existing and switched all characters genders/sexual orientations. I'm not the audience for his work, but nothing wrong with that.
I still don't have any conclusion about the Gaiman allegations, but at the same time, I'm not the one cancelling him. This is all his cohorts doing the cancellation. He chose the bed he slept on.
It continues to be an irony when people like him that said we know all we need to get caught and ask everyone to wait to pass judgement. The very thing they criticized in others.
I despise Gaiman for him pushing Good Omens down a gay love story direction between Sheen and Tenant's characters, I don't think it's something that Sir Terry Pratchett would have written for them.
to be fair. even a hint of sexual misbehavior can kill a career, so i could see an innocent person being forced to cover it up. remember this stuff is usually he said she said and not evidenced based.
not true. If people said something about me that could destroy me i would be tempted to pay too even if it was lies I'm not saying he is innocent. I have no ide if he is or not. I'm just saying that people do pay even if innocent.
Are you telling me that all that virtue signaling and the projection of horrific things upon others, calling them names and label everybody, it's a way to *hide* their monster self? I'm SHOCKED !!
It's funny because they'll be the ones saying "an evil person can't comprehend good" to show how enlightened they are, but they ignore it's not the conservatives seeing racism and sexism in every interaction. Even when you say both sides are projecting, conservatives still expect good first.
And what he said about Kemi Badenoch. I mean, I get that he has a child who is "different", so he's a little bit triggered , but still. You can't stand in an interview and say that you wish a person (a female person of color at that) "didn't exist" , and expect the majority of people to not do a double-take on it.
Huge Neil gaimen fan. Well used to be. After what he said about ppl upset about deaths look in Netflix I said I'm done. Death was iconic. Just making her a black chick to put a black chick in the show is not groundbreaking or virtueus or brave and stunning. What would have been brave and stunning is make the character look like the comic
Agreed. I'd much rather see a comic accurate depiction. The bit that showed the real hypocrisy there was the argument that the Endless aren't human and their appearances change depending on who is viewing them. That's true enough, and we saw Dream change to a black man when witnessed by his former lover who'd lived in Africa in ancient times. Then we see Death in medieval England, and she's still black. Dream's appearance can change, because he's mostly played by a white guy, but since Death is now a black woman she can't change race to fit the time and place she's in.
If you’re actually familiar with his body of work beyond Sandman, you’d know that he’s always been progressive. His Sandman casting choices have been nothing but on-brand when it comes to him and i wasnt surprised one bit. I liked them all though. To each their own
@@CSQuah He defended people wanting original depictions of their characters once upon a time. When he got Hollywood FU money, he turned heel and more or less called the former fans bigots.
@@BillLaBrie How so? Probably more relevant to thank Feminists who wanted to drag everyone over to their side (other than white men) under the guise of "intersectionality". Now its all falling apart, because who'd have thunk it, a bunch of radically different people with divergent goals aren't going to make great bedfellows for any length of time.
Was it a bubble bath? That would change everything, after all the bubbles would cover the naughty bits. Not like they would be touching each other....oh wait.
Agreed. I read the first American Gods novel and have a few of his other works available to read, but I found it quite easy to put down and not overly gripping. He spent a fair bit of effort researching various cultures and trying to weave it into an odyssey, but other than a bit of a superficial layer of commentary on modern "Gods", I didn't think there was anything to be overly interested in or get excited about.
He is indeed very talented and he writes unique stories I love to read. He always was an icon for feminism. That is why I feel so upset and betrayed now.
After the monstrosity that Good Omens Season 2 was, I'm glad they stop production of Season 3. That second season proved Terry was who made the book great, and Neil was just riding on his coattails.
I get you. It's not a matter of blindly accepting the accusations against him, it's a matter of treating someone the way he has treated others. That is fairness. I would even say... equity.
Neil Gaiman and the Seven Accusers--You reap what you sow. Shame because we know there're plenty of terrible women who will throw successful men under the bus for attention and spite.
Yep. Imagine if Johnny Depp hadn't had access to millions of dollars to fight his ex and her lies in court. How many innocent men don't have the same luxury?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Good. I always thought he was good but overrated back in the early Sandman comics days of the 90s. He was never the overblown ego case that McFarlane was, but no one was. Once he went on this "say the socially mandated things vehemently" kick I knew that the pattern was that he was guilty but trying to become safely protected. Didn't happen. I do kind of feel bad that he has fallen now, mainly because I know it'll upset friends of mine who were/are Gaiman's Sandman fanboys and fangirls, but he's done it to himself. So the laugh remains, but the smidge of pity is new.
THIS. He was one of my favorite authors- until he opened his mouth re politics. Glad I dropped him off of my book list before this, just proves I made the right decision
The Sandman was pretty woke already. There were gay characters galore in it. The netflix version went full throttle on the race-swaps though. Imagine taking the iconic pale goth girl that has been the picture of death for 30 years in dozens of stories and artworks and making her and many of the other characters, even men, into black women. Yes, i know the Endless appear to people differently and are usually what they need or want to see, but that was only shown in the show when Morpheus was in hell.
When Terry Pratchett, who was the co-author of Good Omens, was still alive, Gaiman knew better than to Virtue Signal with their work. Pratchett was a man who believed in fairness but had no time for pandering to the mob. Terry was a practically minded man who like myself watched his nation change before his eyes from a country where prejudice was the norm for too many into one of the fairest nations on Earth. Terry would despise the constant victimhood Olympics we endure today and I believe he would not have his name anywhere near Good Omeans season 2. He made the point of saying that angels had no dangley bits and no interest in such Earthly pleasures. This and even the general feeling of season 2 is so un-Pratchett like and they had to wait for his death to feck with his work. For me Gaiman is capable of anything as his eternally selfish arrogance indicates but there must be hard evidence before any judgement can be made by anyone. Even the wicked get worse than they deserve.
The most interesting thing about the Neil Gaimen situation is that big news networks like NBC,ABC, CBS, and even the BBC (as far as I know) have not covered this story. This baffles me a lot.😳🤔
He forgot that the sword cuts both ways. And that in the identity-obsessed world that we live in, who and what you are are all that matter - not your politics, and not your ideology.
I made sure to point out the "Believe all Women" on the GO pages I linger on Enough with the cancel culture crap and Enough to Liars and hypocritical scumbags He fled like a dog with his tail between his legs the second the allegations went viral BELIEVE ALL WOMEN GAIMAN, WHICH IS IT We want our boys to be happy and this is for Terry Pratchett
oh, hey! If it isn¨t consequences of my actions? where have you been all those years? "When the woke inquisition arrives, eventually nobody is pure enough"
I'm no fan of Gaiman and don't particularly care for his works, but just because a number of women accuse a guy, doesn't make him guilty. Being famous and/or rich these days makes guys like this a target for women, and if a few of a man's acquaintances get together and accuse him of something, it can look damning while having no substance whatsoever. On the flipside of that, if its true about Gaiman, good luck to him, because if his Feminist/DEI supporting friends and colleagues blacklist him, he'll have no else to turn to.
Due process aside, I don't think it's ethical to end major productions because of a creator's personal legal issues. They're basically punishing the entire cast and crew (not to mention the fans) for the (alleged) acts of a single individual.
I feel like we've hit the point that when stuff like this happens the discussion becomes about cancel culture, various -isms, and blaming sides. I wonder how many people even think anymore "Did he do it?". Just a thought.
After seeing how he ruined Sandman by pushing this forced diversity nonsense and cheapening the characters, I would say he deserves everything horrible happening to him. I loved Death in the comics and even the animated short…he ruined her with that diversity nonsense. He will go down the rabbit hole just as Joss Whedon did.
Well that makes me feel better about giving up on Neil Gaiman after meeting him and being struck by his rude and dismissive attitude. (This was at a paid signing btw)
When they came for the directors I said nothing When they came for the producers i said nothing When they came for me there was no one left to say anything.
When they came for the directors I said nothing. When they came for the producers I said nothing. When they came back I asked: "Are you sure you've got all the directors and producers?".
He turned his back on his core fans - creating something out of The Sandman that was a shadow of its original self - Constantine gender change was neither needed or wanted .
I know right?! I hated that change. And I like Jenna Coleman, I think she's very charming, but her casting was completely unnecessary and alongside the other casting choices just felt like a slap in the face.
In fairness, they had to change Constantine because JJ Abrams “Bad Robot” had the rights to the character because they were developing their own Constantine tv series at the time..which thankfully never came to pass..(their Constantine was gonna be a black London cop), it’s why the CW show Legends of Tomorrow had to bin their version of Constantine and create a different character for Matt Ryan
Me too, it was seriously overhyped. I have a bit of a love/hate relationship with him; he's written some of my favourite books, some that were middling, and some that were pure trash that were given accolades just cos of who he is.
IIRC, Gaiman did the scripts for the Good Omens adaptation, so maybe Amazon is looking for other writer. Otherwise, I don't care for him at all, he reap what he sow.
I've never seen a photo in which he didn't look like a smug jerk, and that affects my perception when I read someone's work. Can't help it. He was always writing blurbs for Peter Straub's novels (Straub was my favorite novelist), and even seeing Gaiman's name in print just set my teeth on edge. I didn't especially like what he did with Cain and the other DC mystery title characters, either. It *is* fitting that he's being hoisted on his own petard, but I find cancel culture absolutely vile, too. There's no one to root for here.
Disney not making The Graveyard Book is actually great news! This means they won’t race and gender swap the main character into a little black girl who’s more wise than all the ghosts. Give it a few years. Someone else will adapt it eventually.
Gaiman wrote some Miracleman tales, and this is probably going to kill the third arc of his Miracleman run, but he didn't create Miracleman and Marvel paid a lot to buy the rights to the character, so they will probably just bring in a different writer. Angela on the other hand, you might be right.
Terry Pratchett was the soul of Good Omens. They never should have continued it without him. Neil Gaiman is a niche talent. I don't care about his politics. His work is...rubbish with the occasional rare find.
Anyone who's actually read American Gods would know Gaiman had some skeletons in his closet. In much the same way that readers of It know King probably has a very questionable browser history.
"Those who preach the loudest" as they say. Guess it's not surprising with how overly progressive adaptations of his work have been, starting with American Gods it seemed like. Good Omens season one was fantastic. 2 was okay, but was very aggressive with The Agenda.
I have to say in my opinion Terry Prattchet lowered his level when he cooperated with Gaiman . The books they did together weren't nowhere near his disc world novels who are masterpieces . I devoured every single one of them more then once and mourned that genius greatly . His later works weren't on par with the early ones because of his dementia ,but still way better then Gaimans .
He has admitted to enough of the allegations that his poor judgment is not at issue. While some of this stuff is not technically illegal, much of it was certainly immoral. Also, he paid out on NDA's that are not enforceable because an actual crime was involved. There is not so much grey area stuff here... His behavior was manipulative and opportunistic, and yes, predatory. He will never come back from this, and his legacy is now forever tarnished.
Neil Gaiman, I believe, quietly left it (if you leave noisily you get "declared suppressive") but his father was a well known and important Scientologist within Scientology itself: David Gaiman was his name, or is, im not sure if he's still alive or not.
@@halinakajfoszova4354 I was born into that cult, though only raised in it up to age 13, and when my dad was in it before I was born David Gaiman was his superior. He told me about them a bit, the father and son and that family because I got into comics when I was a teenager and Neil Gaiman wrote sandman so it came up. I never met either of them, or at least I might have when very young because my mum worked in the same place later but if I did I don't have any memory of them.
@@halinakajfoszova4354 yeah...he was one of the few that he remembered fondly actually. (David I mean, he didn't really have much to say about Neil Gaiman good or bad cause he only knew him passingly I think but of course there weren't any of those kinds of accusations against him back then).
Someone more knowledgeable than me needs to make a chart of these types and how they end up not great. Also, I also don't like when people "come forward" years later. I don't believe people who just come forward for the money without some solid proof. Though I don't like Neil, I also think we need to always stay true to our principles. "Innocent until proven guilty" should be for everyone, and we should not withold it from idiots just because they were to dumb to understand the principle
I really liked the first season of Good Omen. Couldn't stomach the second one and quite after 1 or 2 episodes since they went all in on the gay shipping crowd. Btw. in the original book the angel and demon were never gay. More like two agents from opposite powers, who gradually realized they had a lot in common and became friends. But the gay shippers went absolutely nuts over them and of course Amazon listened to the weirdos.
Yep, Same here, loved season one, then ignored the second season after getting a bad vibe from the trailers. Only one book anyway which they did well with.
But but but.... How could they cancel him ? He is a feminist and his name is very close to being spelled like gayman.... Maybe if he was just a little bit less cis and less white :c
A male feminist ending up being a creep and predator. It's like you can set your watch to it.
Hearing a male feminist roll my eyes.
That creep like mentally isn't worth it
Reset the clock
@FallofAvariceMale feminists can exist and not be creeps.
@@Entrancer Maybe so, but it won't stop me from looking at them sideways..
Terry Pratchett was what made the book good anyway.
Terry Pratchett is a god with a pen ffs..
I just wish something like this don't come up with his name attached to it..
100%.
GNU Sir pTerry
Thank you! I was hoping people noticed that. As if GayMan could be that witty; he only has good ideas, but his novels aren't that great, save American Gods, imo. Without Pratchet it would be like all Gaiman's other stuff, which I find a bit by the numbers, tbh (I've read just about all his earlier books).
Does the angel and demon have a same sex romance in the book?
@@willbrink Nope.
He was feeding a monster that needs to be fed constantly.
It ended devouring him
JK Rowling was really ahead of the curve there.
I watched the first season of the "Sandman" adaptation on Netflix and EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER ended up being gay or bisexual somehow except for one (no exaggeration). I swear you could not even take a step in that series without finding out the pavement was somehow gay too.
I don’t blame him for writing it that way. Pandering to the locals is how to get things made in Hollywood.
Well, at least he created something new with that kind of characters, he didn't take something already existing and switched all characters genders/sexual orientations. I'm not the audience for his work, but nothing wrong with that.
@@lordcorax6918 ah, i see. I never read the comics and thought it was some mega pandering. My mistake
Never watched that garbage
When pointing this out he just said: I wrote it in the 80s, UT was a different time.. now everybody fluid
I still don't have any conclusion about the Gaiman allegations, but at the same time, I'm not the one cancelling him. This is all his cohorts doing the cancellation. He chose the bed he slept on.
It continues to be an irony when people like him that said we know all we need to get caught and ask everyone to wait to pass judgement. The very thing they criticized in others.
Yep, agreed. You pick your friends, and he did. Hopefully its educational for him - a practical example of what happens to men during trial by media.
I despise Gaiman for him pushing Good Omens down a gay love story direction between Sheen and Tenant's characters, I don't think it's something that Sir Terry Pratchett would have written for them.
No he wouldn't have. In his many books, he never had any of this nonsense.
Did you read the book?
@@tami3456 The original Good Omens?
Yes.
There was nothing more than a deep friendship between Aziraphale and Crawley.
@@tami3456did you?
The issue wasn't the push fo make it gay, but the spoiling of an excellently written male bonding and friendship story.
well his name says gaiman
Ah, when that pendulum swings... I'd say to give him a chance, but you don't bribe people when you're innocent.
Innocent men don’t hide the truth.
No second chance for woketard. That's the number 1 rule that you should remember kid.
to be fair. even a hint of sexual misbehavior can kill a career, so i could see an innocent person being forced to cover it up. remember this stuff is usually he said she said and not evidenced based.
@@ttrev007 True!
not true. If people said something about me that could destroy me i would be tempted to pay too even if it was lies
I'm not saying he is innocent. I have no ide if he is or not. I'm just saying that people do pay even if innocent.
Are you telling me that all that virtue signaling and the projection of horrific things upon others, calling them names and label everybody, it's a way to *hide* their monster self?
I'm SHOCKED !!
It's funny because they'll be the ones saying "an evil person can't comprehend good" to show how enlightened they are, but they ignore it's not the conservatives seeing racism and sexism in every interaction. Even when you say both sides are projecting, conservatives still expect good first.
I'm Shocked! Shocked! Well not that shocked
Tennant is in the dog house too after what he did contributing to the demise of Dr.Who
Poor Michael Sheen….
And what he said about Kemi Badenoch. I mean, I get that he has a child who is "different", so he's a little bit triggered , but still. You can't stand in an interview and say that you wish a person (a female person of color at that) "didn't exist" , and expect the majority of people to not do a double-take on it.
No poor Michael Sheen about it he would fully agree with everything Tennant said.
@@jadefire2817one: yes you can and two: gender and colour don't come into it
@@stevecarter8810 I totally agree. I wasn't saying I personally feel that way, just that in today's climate, most people would do a double take.
Yeah, Tennant has come out as a full on PoS. Can’t even watch his old Dr Who run anymore cuz he’s such a f*cking hateful person.
Huge Neil gaimen fan. Well used to be. After what he said about ppl upset about deaths look in Netflix I said I'm done. Death was iconic. Just making her a black chick to put a black chick in the show is not groundbreaking or virtueus or brave and stunning. What would have been brave and stunning is make the character look like the comic
Agreed. I'd much rather see a comic accurate depiction. The bit that showed the real hypocrisy there was the argument that the Endless aren't human and their appearances change depending on who is viewing them. That's true enough, and we saw Dream change to a black man when witnessed by his former lover who'd lived in Africa in ancient times. Then we see Death in medieval England, and she's still black. Dream's appearance can change, because he's mostly played by a white guy, but since Death is now a black woman she can't change race to fit the time and place she's in.
If you’re actually familiar with his body of work beyond Sandman, you’d know that he’s always been progressive. His Sandman casting choices have been nothing but on-brand when it comes to him and i wasnt surprised one bit. I liked them all though. To each their own
@@CSQuah 1602 sucked. Captain America the bad guy. Lame
@@CSQuah He defended people wanting original depictions of their characters once upon a time. When he got Hollywood FU money, he turned heel and more or less called the former fans bigots.
Same here. You pander to the mind virus, the mind virus with consume you. He got what he fucking deserves.
Let him be held to his own standard.
It's puzzling the wokies have these standards for entertainers, writer's ect but not for their politicians.
That’s because they’re hell bent on winning elections no matter what, even if it means excusing the inexcusable.
What did the queen say when she knighted Elton john?
Neil gaiman lol
lmao, this is actually funny.
😂🤣😭
@@DemBigOlEyes imma be honest I stole this one from a comment I saw on another video lol keeping it 100 but it made me laugh
I'm sure a few queens have said that to him. lol
😂
Wokeness is collapsing all around us and that one of the most beautiful things we have seen in decades.
Woohoo! It's over baby! (what we'll be saying in about another two years; there's still dregs that'll be annoying us all till that wonderful time).
You can thank the pro-Palestinian activists for that.
@@BillLaBrie How so? Probably more relevant to thank Feminists who wanted to drag everyone over to their side (other than white men) under the guise of "intersectionality". Now its all falling apart, because who'd have thunk it, a bunch of radically different people with divergent goals aren't going to make great bedfellows for any length of time.
lol
Oh noes, lefties turn on their own again, anyhow….
@FallofAvariceNeed some extra butter? Salt, maybe?😂
Censors turn against their so-called "allies". They would call them "body type 1/A/2/Bs", for example.
"We only cuddled in the bathtub," Neil Gaiman - 2024.
Perfectly fine and innocent ... 🙄
Was it a bubble bath? That would change everything, after all the bubbles would cover the naughty bits. Not like they would be touching each other....oh wait.
@@williamedwards4151 Funny, that's what my ex-wife said about her and our neighbour's husband.
As one does…
Imagine that pervert "cuddling" you in a bathtub... She must have felt like Nancy from Elm Street!
Dude has always been highly, overrated.
Agreed. I read the first American Gods novel and have a few of his other works available to read, but I found it quite easy to put down and not overly gripping. He spent a fair bit of effort researching various cultures and trying to weave it into an odyssey, but other than a bit of a superficial layer of commentary on modern "Gods", I didn't think there was anything to be overly interested in or get excited about.
He is indeed very talented and he writes unique stories I love to read. He always was an icon for feminism. That is why I feel so upset and betrayed now.
@@NicolaWaldbauer Wait until you wake up and realise feminism itself had betrayed women.
Funny how those that point the most fingers have the dirtiest hands.
Projection is off the charts for some people. I am always skeptical of people who seem cartoonish with their "views."
Neil is innocent
Male Feminist. Why am I not surprised?
After the monstrosity that Good Omens Season 2 was, I'm glad they stop production of Season 3.
That second season proved Terry was who made the book great, and Neil was just riding on his coattails.
@@nalublackwater9729 Sir Terry Pratchett was an incredible author, Neil Gaiman is a long way behind him.
I get you. It's not a matter of blindly accepting the accusations against him, it's a matter of treating someone the way he has treated others. That is fairness. I would even say... equity.
Neil Gaiman and the Seven Accusers--You reap what you sow. Shame because we know there're plenty of terrible women who will throw successful men under the bus for attention and spite.
Yep. Imagine if Johnny Depp hadn't had access to millions of dollars to fight his ex and her lies in court. How many innocent men don't have the same luxury?
Yep.
Ex girlfriends can be spiteful. especially if you are successful.
He’s a pervert and always has been. Cope harder.
@@elagabalusrex390lmao. He’s not innocent!😂😂😂😂
For like 1 second I was happy thinking this was about Neil Druckmann...
His time will come too, be patient, my friend.
@FallofAvarice I kinda doubt it, druckman isn't a bad looking guy
@emiami458 I don't know. He has that very strong creep vibe.
This guy is one of the people responsible for the internet archive getting screwed over too. Good. I hope he does something drastic.
Really??😮
what did he do
Sounds to me like he fits right in with hollywood. Their only problem with what he did was that he got caught.
If you are a wolf, you wouldn't hide between sheep. You'd hide between other wolves.
Anyone who is that loud about being the "good guy" needs to get investigated yesterday.
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Not sure your quote makes any sense, but anyway he's definitely a predator.
@@MacSmithVideo The quote makes perfect sense, wether you get it or not.
@@MacSmithVideo Alleged. Frankly, I just want this to be a wakeup call for him, like with what happened to JK Rowling.
Believe all women, Neil.
Haha, that's hilarious 😂
"Live by the dick and die by the whore!"
Well, well, well, another "male feminist"... Why am I not surprised.
Another one, just like Warren Ellis....poor "ally of women are always right " showing his true colors.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Good.
I always thought he was good but overrated back in the early Sandman comics days of the 90s. He was never the overblown ego case that McFarlane was, but no one was. Once he went on this "say the socially mandated things vehemently" kick I knew that the pattern was that he was guilty but trying to become safely protected. Didn't happen.
I do kind of feel bad that he has fallen now, mainly because I know it'll upset friends of mine who were/are Gaiman's Sandman fanboys and fangirls, but he's done it to himself. So the laugh remains, but the smidge of pity is new.
Male-female equality.
My, how the turn tables. 😆
I remember a fuss over him travelling from NZ to Scotland during coof after a domestic disturbance.
I used to admire his work. But, after how he wokified Sandman and ruined Good Omens with season 2 yeah I don't feel sorry for him.
THIS. He was one of my favorite authors- until he opened his mouth re politics. Glad I dropped him off of my book list before this, just proves I made the right decision
The Sandman was pretty woke already. There were gay characters galore in it. The netflix version went full throttle on the race-swaps though. Imagine taking the iconic pale goth girl that has been the picture of death for 30 years in dozens of stories and artworks and making her and many of the other characters, even men, into black women. Yes, i know the Endless appear to people differently and are usually what they need or want to see, but that was only shown in the show when Morpheus was in hell.
I have no respect for anyone who doesn't even respect their own work and willingly let Netflix butcher it.
When Terry Pratchett, who was the co-author of Good Omens, was still alive, Gaiman knew better than to Virtue Signal with their work. Pratchett was a man who believed in fairness but had no time for pandering to the mob. Terry was a practically minded man who like myself watched his nation change before his eyes from a country where prejudice was the norm for too many into one of the fairest nations on Earth. Terry would despise the constant victimhood Olympics we endure today and I believe he would not have his name anywhere near Good Omeans season 2. He made the point of saying that angels had no dangley bits and no interest in such Earthly pleasures. This and even the general feeling of season 2 is so un-Pratchett like and they had to wait for his death to feck with his work.
For me Gaiman is capable of anything as his eternally selfish arrogance indicates but there must be hard evidence before any judgement can be made by anyone.
Even the wicked get worse than they deserve.
Well, well, well,
How the turntables….
The most interesting thing about the Neil Gaimen situation is that big news networks like NBC,ABC, CBS, and even the BBC (as far as I know) have not covered this story. This baffles me a lot.😳🤔
He mocked God so many times in so many ways, now this hits.
No, really - we were just cuddling naked in the bathtub!! 😅
It was all perfectly innocent, Your Highness. And clean, very clean! 😂
@@user-zq6sz2cr6g I mean, even if it wasn't, so what? The woman in question was _not_ underage.
Hahahaha in the end they always eat their own.
He forgot that the sword cuts both ways. And that in the identity-obsessed world that we live in, who and what you are are all that matter - not your politics, and not your ideology.
Sad to see, loved The Sandman comic back in the 90s but still not surprising, the dude became an absolute wacko
He reaps what he sowed.
_"Bribery"?_ OOPS.
I mean, we all saw that coming, surely. I'm becoming increasingly glad most mainstream celebs are on their side - they keep getting outed as creeps.
When he came out in support of internet piracy I was like WHAAAAT? Now this? Yikes
I made sure to point out the "Believe all Women" on the GO pages I linger on
Enough with the cancel culture crap and Enough to Liars and hypocritical scumbags
He fled like a dog with his tail between his legs the second the allegations went viral
BELIEVE ALL WOMEN GAIMAN, WHICH IS IT
We want our boys to be happy and this is for Terry Pratchett
I don't believe anyone.
Who knew people that push that they are better than others turn out to be monsters. Its like it happens every week a new one gets found out
In sandman a writer had to force himself unto a muse in order to get ideas ....hhhmm
Sounds like he took "write what you know" to heart. Just like another feminist, leslye headland.
I Really Wished this was Niel Drunkman. That man is in Discreet mode right now... Making The Last Of Woke Part 3
You know how ba these people are by the size of their PR and legal teams, the bigger the worse they are.
Tennent is insufferable and I’m sick of his predictable acting. Mr Smug wokester.
Used to like him. Now can't stand him. x
oh, hey! If it isn¨t consequences of my actions?
where have you been all those years?
"When the woke inquisition arrives, eventually nobody is pure enough"
Nobody expects the woke inquisition...
I'm no fan of Gaiman and don't particularly care for his works, but just because a number of women accuse a guy, doesn't make him guilty. Being famous and/or rich these days makes guys like this a target for women, and if a few of a man's acquaintances get together and accuse him of something, it can look damning while having no substance whatsoever. On the flipside of that, if its true about Gaiman, good luck to him, because if his Feminist/DEI supporting friends and colleagues blacklist him, he'll have no else to turn to.
I'll never forgive him for taking Angela away from the Spawn universe and selling the character to Marvel, who ruined her.
Ah, Oh, HUSH MONEY!!! Isn't that high crimes and misdemeanors? Lol 😂😅
SIR Terry Pratchet was right in despising him after all.
I guess he REALLY was a great judge of personalities.
(He was)
I'm still pissed he didn't cast Matt Ryan as Constantine, and Jenna Coleman as Death.
Due process aside, I don't think it's ethical to end major productions because of a creator's personal legal issues. They're basically punishing the entire cast and crew (not to mention the fans) for the (alleged) acts of a single individual.
I feel like we've hit the point that when stuff like this happens the discussion becomes about cancel culture, various -isms, and blaming sides. I wonder how many people even think anymore "Did he do it?". Just a thought.
Nobody cares. It's just another article to fuel the fires.
After seeing how he ruined Sandman by pushing this forced diversity nonsense and cheapening the characters, I would say he deserves everything horrible happening to him. I loved Death in the comics and even the animated short…he ruined her with that diversity nonsense. He will go down the rabbit hole just as Joss Whedon did.
Give anyone money, power and/or fame, and it's basically a matter of time before they reveal all the demons inside them. Never fails.
Well that makes me feel better about giving up on Neil Gaiman after meeting him and being struck by his rude and dismissive attitude. (This was at a paid signing btw)
When they came for the directors I said nothing
When they came for the producers i said nothing
When they came for me there was no one left to say anything.
When they came for the directors I said nothing.
When they came for the producers I said nothing.
When they came back I asked: "Are you sure you've got all the directors and producers?".
The directors and producers would have said nothing for you.
Allegations.
Like the Allegations about Justin roiland.
How did they work out?
He turned his back on his core fans - creating something out of The Sandman that was a shadow of its original self - Constantine gender change was neither needed or wanted .
I know right?! I hated that change. And I like Jenna Coleman, I think she's very charming, but her casting was completely unnecessary and alongside the other casting choices just felt like a slap in the face.
In fairness, they had to change Constantine because JJ Abrams “Bad Robot” had the rights to the character because they were developing their own Constantine tv series at the time..which thankfully never came to pass..(their Constantine was gonna be a black London cop), it’s why the CW show Legends of Tomorrow had to bin their version of Constantine and create a different character for Matt Ryan
He's no longer useful to Hollywood so he can be thrown out.
I read American Gods when it first came out because people gushed about it. I thought it sucked.
Me too, it was seriously overhyped. I have a bit of a love/hate relationship with him; he's written some of my favourite books, some that were middling, and some that were pure trash that were given accolades just cos of who he is.
IIRC, Gaiman did the scripts for the Good Omens adaptation, so maybe Amazon is looking for other writer.
Otherwise, I don't care for him at all, he reap what he sow.
I've never seen a photo in which he didn't look like a smug jerk, and that affects my perception when I read someone's work. Can't help it. He was always writing blurbs for Peter Straub's novels (Straub was my favorite novelist), and even seeing Gaiman's name in print just set my teeth on edge. I didn't especially like what he did with Cain and the other DC mystery title characters, either. It *is* fitting that he's being hoisted on his own petard, but I find cancel culture absolutely vile, too. There's no one to root for here.
Disney not making
The Graveyard Book is actually great news!
This means they won’t race and gender swap the main character into a little black girl who’s more wise than all the ghosts.
Give it a few years.
Someone else will adapt it eventually.
Rip Miracleman Rip Angela.....woke Marvel never gonna use you again.
Gaiman wrote some Miracleman tales, and this is probably going to kill the third arc of his Miracleman run, but he didn't create Miracleman and Marvel paid a lot to buy the rights to the character, so they will probably just bring in a different writer. Angela on the other hand, you might be right.
Like everyone else, innocent until proven guilty, but being a male feminist isn't helping his case.
so is this what the kids these days call a
>believe all women!
>no not like that!
moment?
Terry Pratchett was the soul of Good Omens. They never should have continued it without him. Neil Gaiman is a niche talent. I don't care about his politics. His work is...rubbish with the occasional rare find.
Neil Gaiman must face the rules he himself advocated for. Pardon me if I shed no tears.
Great vid!
Like Scar getting devoured by the hyenas.
Believe all women, except when it happens to me.
Anyone who's actually read American Gods would know Gaiman had some skeletons in his closet. In much the same way that readers of It know King probably has a very questionable browser history.
"Those who preach the loudest" as they say. Guess it's not surprising with how overly progressive adaptations of his work have been, starting with American Gods it seemed like. Good Omens season one was fantastic. 2 was okay, but was very aggressive with The Agenda.
Oh, this guy's a sweety pie, isn't he? Congratulations on 117k!!!
I have to say in my opinion Terry Prattchet lowered his level when he cooperated with Gaiman . The books they did together weren't nowhere near his disc world novels who are masterpieces . I devoured every single one of them more then once and mourned that genius greatly . His later works weren't on par with the early ones because of his dementia ,but still way better then Gaimans .
When you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas.
Still can’t believe this is the same author behind Coraline.
He has admitted to enough of the allegations that his poor judgment is not at issue. While some of this stuff is not technically illegal, much of it was certainly immoral. Also, he paid out on NDA's that are not enforceable because an actual crime was involved. There is not so much grey area stuff here...
His behavior was manipulative and opportunistic, and yes, predatory. He will never come back from this, and his legacy is now forever tarnished.
Neil Gaiman, I believe, quietly left it (if you leave noisily you get "declared suppressive") but his father was a well known and important Scientologist within Scientology itself: David Gaiman was his name, or is, im not sure if he's still alive or not.
I remember reading that on wiki (i know, i know) and that put me off him straight away
@@halinakajfoszova4354 I was born into that cult, though only raised in it up to age 13, and when my dad was in it before I was born David Gaiman was his superior. He told me about them a bit, the father and son and that family because I got into comics when I was a teenager and Neil Gaiman wrote sandman so it came up. I never met either of them, or at least I might have when very young because my mum worked in the same place later but if I did I don't have any memory of them.
@@rlawrence9838 was your dad treated well by him, or not really?
@@halinakajfoszova4354 yeah...he was one of the few that he remembered fondly actually. (David I mean, he didn't really have much to say about Neil Gaiman good or bad cause he only knew him passingly I think but of course there weren't any of those kinds of accusations against him back then).
@@rlawrence9838 fair enough, and I'm glad he was kind to your dad 😊
Someone more knowledgeable than me needs to make a chart of these types and how they end up not great. Also, I also don't like when people "come forward" years later. I don't believe people who just come forward for the money without some solid proof.
Though I don't like Neil, I also think we need to always stay true to our principles. "Innocent until proven guilty" should be for everyone, and we should not withold it from idiots just because they were to dumb to understand the principle
" I'm shocked, shocked to find out there is gambling here. " " Your winnings, sir. "
Hoist with his own petard.
Cancelled by me as well.
Omens was creepy in season 2 and not the good type.
@@orthopedix6202 It had good bits but seriously making Aziraphale and Crawley gay was just totally unjustified.
I really liked the first season of Good Omen. Couldn't stomach the second one and quite after 1 or 2 episodes since they went all in on the gay shipping crowd.
Btw. in the original book the angel and demon were never gay. More like two agents from opposite powers, who gradually realized they had a lot in common and became friends. But the gay shippers went absolutely nuts over them and of course Amazon listened to the weirdos.
Yep, Same here, loved season one, then ignored the second season after getting a bad vibe from the trailers. Only one book anyway which they did well with.
In for a penny. In for a pound.
Try to take the highground, but don't be afraid to meet someone on the low ground
Nothing more satisfying than one of the "believe all women" crowd getting their just and deserved comeuppance 😅
I like his works but when he backstabbed McFarlane he showed his true colors
There goes that 2nd season of Sandman, LOL, YOU reap what you sow indeed.
But but but.... How could they cancel him ? He is a feminist and his name is very close to being spelled like gayman.... Maybe if he was just a little bit less cis and less white :c