Curator's Corner: Gen. Patton's Pocket Pistols
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- Опубликовано: 17 июл 2024
- The pocket pistols carried by General George S. Patton, Colt Model 1908, Detective Special, and Remington Model 51. Discussed on NRATV's Curator's Corner with Phil Schreier and John Popp. nramuseum.com
Nice gun. I have my Grandfather's mod 51 .380 circa 1920 that he bought during the US Steel strike for personal protection.
Most people do not know that Patton also carried a Thompson SMG.
Patton's Thompson is on Display at the USMA West Point Museum.
It is an M1 Thompson without the protective ears on the rear sight.
There is only one photo I know of, Patton is standing in a Landing Craft and it is within arm's reach.
He also laid it on his lap when riding in his Custom Jeep in hostile areas.
George Patton was an independently wealthy man. He didn’t have to live on a Army Officer’s salary. Apparently Patton’s upper class mannerisms never endeared him to either Eisenhower or Bradley. Both of whom were his bosses in WW2. Both of those men came from modest backgrounds.
Wish they showed those particular photos of Patton with his "insurance" guns.
It wasn't a Messerschmitt in the movie, it was 2 Heinkel HE 111 medium bombers.
The He-111 bombers in the movie Patton were not He-111's, they were Spanish post war production CASA 2.111's.
Great video! Since I watched this video, I purchased a Remington Model 51 and have been so impressed with the weapon. Thanks for the video - keep 'em coming!
Learned a lot more about Patton now I respect him.
I always admired Patton, reading one of his biographies as an 10 year old boy.
As a 40 year old man I found out what he and Eisenhower did, while they were majors under the command of MacArthur, against the WWI veterans of the Bonus Army.
Shameful.
Why I like the revolver: "Remember the space shuttle? 300 million moving parts made by the lowest bidder!"
Excellent history lesson!
Thanks Phil!
Surprisingly MacArthur killed a lot more men by himself than Patton did. Even though they called him dugout Doug...he was quite a warrior. Would like to see his collection.
I'm pretty sure that there were HE-111 planes George C. Scott as Gen. Patton fired at in the movie, no Messerschmidts.
that is such a beast office!
from Eisenhower's reminiscences..."At
the same outdoor luncheon, senior officers of both British and American armies
were present. Seated directly across from the King was George
Patton. During the conversation, the King asked General Patton if he had
ever shot anyone with the pistols he was wearing.
George said promptly, 'Oh yes.' But he added, 'Really, not these
pistols. These are the ones I carry socially. I carry my fighting
pistols when I'm out on campaign.'
'How many men have you killed in war?' asked the King.
Without batting an eye, George said, 'Seven, sir.'
This was too much for me. 'How many did you say, General Patton?'
Instantly he replied, 'Three, Sir.'
'Well, George,' I said, 'I'll let you get away with that.' George had
often told me that during the Pershing expedition into Mexico in 1916, he and a
small cavalry patrol ran into a handful of Villa's brigands and in the melee he
shot one of the enemy. I think this was about the limit of his personal
lethal accomplishments.
I want that remington 51!!!
I wish i was half as bad as Patton loved this man
Insurance gun, I love that. Patton was ready for anything..
I have a M51 Remington in 380 caliber in excellent condition. I love that pistol, think I've only shot around 20 rounds through it as I'm afraid I might break something. It's so accurate for a gun made almost 90 years ago and, in my opinion is much better than the Colt offering. I have nothing against the Colt at all but the Remington is far and away a better designed pistol firing from a semi locked breech....did I say its really accurate? What a find, bought it brand new in the box about 10 years ago.
Is that a novelty USB stick shaped like a bullet he had the revolver sitting on? I can see the 4GB printed on the bottom.
Was it true a reporter once mistakenly referred to the grips on his revolver as mother of pearl and Patton corrected him saying "only a New Orleans Pimp would carry a gun with Mother of Pearl grips"? 😆😀
What gun are you carrying in this video?
Kinda wish you would had shown the pictures.
I wish they would have cut to the photos when they talked about them
it does!
i was just talking bout that the other day.
I own a model 51
Fantastic
i want the pocket hammerless .380
The Spanish Air Force provided German looking aircraft for the movies Patton and The Battle of Britain, Among others...
Remington has reintroduced a Model 51 in 9mm. It looks kind of similar.
Its junk.
Remington has recalled them, Perhaps a better iteration will come from Remington?
Yes. The original "reissue" R51 had problems. Remington admitted it and recalled every one of them. Then they re-reissued the R51 in 2016 and its a whole new gun again. Look for the "Huntsville" models. There are early re-re issues that are "Charlette" models which is where the first R51 was made that are revamped and good guns also. The good charlettes will have staked sights. The recalled charlettes will not be staked. Avoid those.
This video brought back memories of one of the guns I could kick myself for selling. Sometime during the 1960's I purchased, new in the box, from a dealer, a Colt .32 pocket pistol that I believe was part of the lend-lease program. It was parkerized instead of blued, it had larger square sights (instead of the little round ones) and it had British proof marks on the barrel. I never fired it, and I certainly hope that whoever owns it now hasn't fired it either. I have never seen such an item before or since.
arrlmember I'd have fired it.
+arrlmember If you buy a gun and don't shoot it, that is a disrespect to the maker.
***** Yeah, those old gun makers had pride in their workmanship. Not like today, when Colt is out of business, and their work was already getting worse. I still don't see why you don't shoot it.
***** Hmm. I guess different people think differently, because if I had that gun I would have a different philosophy.
I don't know about the musket. I hear black-powder guns are a you know what to clean, fire, etc. Not to mention the metallurgy is awful. But I don't see the point of not shooting a pistol like what arrlmember describes. To me that is sacrilege. If you spent that much on it, make it worth it by shooting it. If it could speak that is what it would want you to do (you get the point; respect the maker of the pistol). Not 10,000 rounds a year, but maybe once in a blue moon shoot a couple magazines, try it out.
i have a model 51 remington #2215
I'm guessing that Patton's Colt Detective Special would have been chambered in 38Spl, is that correct?
My wife inherited her dad's but it was in 32CNP/32S&W. I'd guess the Army would have gone with a stronger round, just curious.
Remington R-51 brought me here.
D5quared91 the original was great
I love my R51. Great little "insurance" gun.
He needs to rewatch the movie
In Africa the planes he shot at were Heinkel 111's surely?
Those were the "Spanish Heinkels".
Franco's military used the Heinkel and manufactured it for years after WWII.
Not messescheritt
Cavalry not calvary !
general patton is my cousin well hes kind 2 me or one of my anc
ienters
You have to force yourself to stop saying, "Aww or uuuuh" Way too many times......
jeez Philip is getting old
Patton was a great leader. However, what excuse is there for him wasting his troops on a mission to rescue his P.O.W. son-in-law?
Stewart Nicol as BILLY CONNOLLY
He was trying to rescue his son in law.
Patton was not perfect to be sure. He thought the POW camp was lightly defended. They actually did enter the compound quickly and liberate many POWs. When they tried to return to the American lines they ran into a force of Germans and got into a firefight. Patrons son in law was wounded and had to be taken back to the camp.
Joseph Wolosz they fought practically the entire time,in and out. 1 thing they accomplished was to draw forces toward them, enabling a deep penetration by U.S. forces. plus drove the Germans crazy.
What’s the point of showing us pistols that were not his? A “run of the mill” model Colt 1908, Det Spl, and a Rem 51 are all nice weapons but your museum couldn’t even round up exact copies of what Patton carried?... most pawn shops around me will have these weapons...
To much talking