Real pilot compares the Airbus A320 flight controls with flight simulator joystick and thrust levers
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- This is a Comparison between the real flight controls of an Airbus A321 and the Thrustmaster TCA officer Pack Airbus Edition flight controls (sidestick and Thrust Quadrant) for Microsoft Flight Simulator and X-Plane.
Take off from Mexico City International Airport (MEX / MMMX) and landing at Jose Martí Airport in Havana, Cuba. (UHA / MUHA)
I was the Pilot in Command of both flights. For the flight in the simulator I did my best to recreate the exact weight and balance, speeds, time of the day and weather I had on the real flight. I used the Aerosoft A321 for FSX Steam edition.
Thrustmaster Airbus sidestick is almost identical to the real A320 sidestick!
the only difference is that Thrustmaster sidestick is slightly higher, making autopilot disconnect pushbutton a little bit harder to reach than real life. And of course, no Z axis exist in real life sidestick, Push To Talk trigger is identical.
Thrustmaster TCA quadrant is at least 1/3 smaller that real life thrust levers. Total displacement available from the levers is half or maybe less than real thrust control. However, it's not necessarily a bad thing, is only different than real life.
For the sidestick if you want to have the most similar sensitivity to real life Airbus you will have to adjust flight simulator sensitivity almost to the higher value.
For the thrust levers, even in real life, sensitivity varies a lot between aircraft, so no specific value recommended here.
It's impossible to have a perfectly real-like experience on a simulator, in the end, use whatever settings pleases you and have fun!
00:00 take-off
02:38 landing
05:38 my opinion
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Is this real life or flight simulator? ruclips.net/video/htRFz0AlgG4/видео.html
unfortunately i dont fully understand your pro comments but for the ignorant i am the simulator picture is too sharp to be true ! 🤔
Real life
fps of simulation is to low
So the main difference is that you get higher FPS with the real side stick.
Gracias por tan excelente explicacion vuelo con Flight Simulator de Microsft desde 1995, y ahota Xplane 11 y ahora Flight Simulator de Microsft 2020,Cordial Saludo desde Bogota
So annoying they are sold out everywhere on the Airbus edition and the honeycomb yoke and throttle. Xbox controller is not cutting it.
Wow! That was perfect!
Lot more input on the real pilot's stick.
Great video, thanks ! Can you tell us more about the Sidestick's sensitivity for MS Flight Simulator 2020 ? By default there is a curve especially for X/Y axis, but should we set the sensitivity to 0% to get a straight line ? Which one is more realistic?
In FSX all axis must be almost to the highest sensitivity level for having the closest experience to the real thing, so i guess in FS2020 have to be the same
Hi, kannst Du bitte aufzeigen wie du die Sensibilität der Z-Achse eingestellt hast? Ich hab den FS2020 und das Flugzeug eiert ganz schön hin und her auf der Bahn. Die Reaktion auf die Eingabe ist weit entfernt von einem linearen Verlauf. Bei starken Winden schmiert man mit UL Flugzeugen nahezu ab...
Merci pour votre vidéo. J'ai bien aimé. Car c'est rare de voir le réel travail du pilote. Voudriez-vous la même comparaison avec MSFS2020 , s'il vous plait?
At least they chose a powerful computer for the simulator))
Pls make a Video how you Config it!
thank you for the super video made so well. grateful if you an show us calibration curve etc.
This is the most relevant video posted on TCA line ever. really like the approch to compare to real life! but wow, the game fps is so looooooowww
What do you think of the notches, their feeling and the possibility to remove them?
i have been using them as they came out of the box and they just work fine for me, it would be a matter of personal taste if you decide to remove them or adjust the friction of the levers
You should do a review of a 200k home cockpit build vs the real thing! I’d be surprised by how close they are to handle probably identical
I ordered the THRUSTMASTER from Best Buy aug 23/20 and I just received it yesterday feb 17/2021 I it is available now.
Fantastic!!!
Your video is amazing!!
I bought the Officer Pack Airbus Edition of Thrustmaster that includes the sidestick and the throttle quadrant. I run FSX: Steam Edition and I also have the Aerosoft pack of A318/A319/A320/A321. I tried many days, I spent endless hours on the screen tried to configure the right settings for the Airbus controls. Calibration is fine and both devices are shown on the game controllers of windows control panel. I tried from the FSX controls menu but I didn't made anything...I read many topics on the aerosoft forums for the configurator of Airbus to enable from there the TCA devices but there is no choice for something like that. I don't know what else to do...I don't want to believe that my purchase was for no reason...
*I don’t have the professional pack for Airbuses and I run Win 10
EXCELLENT !! Merci.
Como puedo configurar el throttle en fsx?
hola!. porfavor me ayudarías en un problema con aerosoft cuando le doy potencia se queda congelado y no se porque será porque con los otros aviones funciona de lo mas bien.
hola, perdón pero no sabría como solucionar ese problema
Excelente video, llevo tiempo meditando si comprarlos o no, ya que tengo unos Yoke de CH Products, solo que si me gustaría estos mandos para darle “realismo” al momento de volar con el A320, cuando se vuela en simulador es padre imaginar que se vuela en la propia cabina del avión 🥰
Im thinking of buying it in a few days!
they need to put rumble in the flight stick.
Actuellement le paramétrage de la manette de gaz n'est pas optimal. Les crans des positions CLIMB-FLEX-TOGA impose une sensibilité importante, principalement entre les positions IDLE et CLIMB (le moindre déplacement de quelques millimètre modifie forte la poussé).
Le problème résident principalement de flight simulator et non de la manette.
Dommage également que les boutons ne soient toujours pas encore pleinement fonctionnels (positions normal du mode moteur par exemple). Ils restent à patienter
Pense que el gatillo era para disparar los misiles :(
Hahaha no ya enserio, que tal se siente la resistencia del sidestick en comparación con la realidad?
el del avión real es algo mas rígido
what is the black and white spinning thing on the real throttle
Capi, es complicado configurar el throttle en FSX ? Si funciona al 100%?
No es complicado configurarlos, pero al momento las palancas de potencia no funcionan al 100%, thrustmaster ha dicho que en una actualización de software posterior funcionarán bien pero aún no ha sucedido.
@@RobT_Cockpit_videos muchas gracias, entonces solo comprare el sidestick por el momento, saludos.! ✌🏼
I see the Thrustmaster has the roll/pitch trim hatswitch which is missing on the real thing. Would it make sense to have it on the real sidestick or does the autotrim make it redundant? I also see the trim wheels automatically trim nose down on braking. Does this help the airbrake effect and push the nose wheel hard down?
When you take your hand off the throttles at V1, what if you need to move them from FLEX to TOGA after V1 but before V2, if an engine fails? Is it not better to keep your hand on the throttles till rotation (or even later, if an engine fails during climb?).
Question King that's me
There is no need for the hatswitch, autotrim does all the work.
After landing, pitch trim returns to neutral in preparation for the next flight, there is no additional benefit on braking or aircraft control on the ground.
The probability of engine failure between V1 and
V2 is very low, however the probalility of a pilot making and undue aborted take-off after V1 is very high, that is why the procedure worlwide is to remove hands off the thrust levers before V1. In case of engine failure during initial climb TOGA is not a requirement, the aicraft is capable of climbing in FLEX with only one engine.
@@RobT_Cockpit_videos thankyou. I like the hatswitch, I bet pilots wouldn't like it though as it would take a while to get used to it being there even if it isn't used. I've read it was present on the earliest preproduction frames although I haven't found a picture. The only other use for the hatswitch I could think of could be as part of a HOTAS system which would be useful for single pilot operations, something Airbus is said to be looking into for certain airframes but which has naturally met with stiff resistance so far. For an ACJ it might make sense, especially something light like an A220. We'll see how it develops.
nice 5 frames per second :D
Why does the co-pilot switch back to the VHF2 Selector after switching the freq on VHF 1? Why doesn't he just stay on VHF1 Since that is the one you guys are using?
All Nav and ATC radios can be operated from either side, so the FO just changed ATC frequency from its side but both pilots are using VHF 1
@@RobT_Cockpit_videos I understand that but when changing freq, he switched to VHF1 (understandable) then switched back to VHF2. Why so?
VHF1 on the Captain's side is dedicated to ATC, VHF2 on the First Officer's side is dedicated to ATIS, dispatch frequency etc. by procedure VHF1 and VHF2 displays should be always showing their respective frequencies.
@@RobT_Cockpit_videos ty
Yo tengo el de microsoft sidewinder precision 2 y me hago ilusiones, me relaja, sólo por diversión; a donde te mando mis vídeos para que me los critiques?! 🤭
What computer is he using?
Wait, What do you mean by the push to talk trigger in 6:02 ?
That is the button you press to talk to ATC.
@@Capt.Ho.Lee.Fuk.Ok thank you very much, and remember, a good pilot is always learning
@@isaigalileoorozcoacosta7502 A good pilot would know what the push to talk trigger is
@Divan van der Westhuizen I'm not so familiarized with airbus, so don't be that rude, it's useless to be rude.
As a right hander who once considered a job in aviation, the thought of having to operate a large commercial liner with a single yoke in the left hand seems a bit scary 😬
Has there ever been any feedback from pilots about the left-right positioning of the side stick?
It’s really not a big deal. I’ve never flown an airbus but have flown ga using a yoke with my left hand and it was never an issue.
@@spencerbrown3875 im sure its perfectly doable. I know the amount of manual flying done in these modern liners keeps getting smaller and smaller, so I'd imagine its not much of an issue for most.
I just wonder about how optimal it is compared to a centered stick or an actual yoke.
ACP 2 must be pushed for monitoring 121,5
The frame rate is much better in real life lol!
So I bought the throttle, it works perfectly on any other sim but when I load up p3d with this throttles the buttons are aligned to a really weird position, for example when I throttle up the views change. Do you know,how to fix that?
i had the same problem, that's because for some reason many buttons are assigned with different fuctions, for example moving the left lever will change views and moving the right will operate the landing gear instead of the thrust, you will have to go through each key assigment and set the appropiate funcion if necessary. it's very tedious.
@@RobT_Cockpit_videos is it possible that you can export your settings and send them to me? Thanks in advance! If not it’s not a problem ofcourse.
sorry, I no longer have the simulator installed
@@RobT_Cockpit_videos why?
after months with no flights due to the pandemic i went back to fly the real thing
Ánimo, Robert. Eres capitán de A320, por lo que tienes muchas horas de vuelo, se ve que tienes muy buen nivel de inglés, puedes concursar para alguna aerolínea china. ✈️
gracias!
@@RobT_Cockpit_videos te deseo lo mejor, bro, eres un gran piloto. 🙂✈️
What is auto pilot use for
I would never be able to fly a jet with my left hand...
For sure real life has more FPS than a game xD
But whey they hell they didn't put trim there is beyond me. But hey, you can buy an add-on
Quadrant Add-on Airbus Edition and it also looks like something worth buying.
The Airbus trims completely on it's own, it's part of the fly-by-wire system. If the pilot pitches up, the airplane automatically trims to keep that pitch angle. The only time you're manually moving the trim is likely when you're setting your trim value at the gate to where you grab it and move it an inch or so and that's it, otherwise you virtually don't touch the trim.
What graphic engine has player on the left, is unreal! 🤣🤣🤣
You can kind of tell that the frame rate on the right-hand version falls off as the plane rolls down the runway. Real life tends not to do that.
Close but remember there's only so much that PC flight simulators can emulate from the real thing.
The shaking about from the rough runway in this video is an example... it's bad enough to cause involuntary sidestick deflection
Good job on the real plane, lol, but you need a better pc bro!
Drive hc400 plz
is that fsx? im using fsx too btw
yes
На левом окошки FPS по больше будет ))))
is that aerosoft?
yes it is
But does the sim behave like airbus, with normal law snd all?
Quite similar
OMG! 10fps in FSX in 2020 😂
why arnt you using fs2020, would make a much better comparison
Possibly because his computer can't run it, he's getting 5 fps on FSX; or that FS2020 has an A320neo, not an A321, while FSX has an A321.
🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
That looks like FS9 to me. If that's 2020, you need a way better box, meng, cuz that's stock FS2004 level graphics there.
left side has better FPS and PC rig.
у 321 модификации 214 не бывает, только у 320
You definitely need a better computer, mate 😀
Real life is not GPU limited
wtf 20fps?
Yeah, but the real plane doesn't have a razer mouse!
The real one got better FPS
Did you start sim on calculator?)))
OH real life is better!
The stick is in the left hand??is confortable this setup position?
Can you at least tell us which side is real?
Obviously the left side is the real
Thanks for showing us your Hong con-man's IQ.
@@mikesierra7475 r/woosh
bad pc framerate
Somebody delete this right-side shame
tu hardware no ayudo mucho para la comparación, se atora mucho!!!
So eine Scheisse hier:Egal nur immer englisch.Die anderen Zuschauer können ja dumm sterben.