Best Shimano 12 speed Components MIX - Deore, SLX, XT, XTR - Great GIFT idea???
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- Best #Shimano 12 speed components MIX? Here's my suggestions from cables, shifters, chains, cranks, derailleurs to brakes and dropper remotes. #12speed #drivetrain
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Shimano Deore CS-M6100 10-51T - bit.ly/33ZzEpx
Deore M6100 SGS 12s Derailleur - bit.ly/343yBFh
Shimano SLX 12 speed Shifter M7100 - bit.ly/3qNmNAU
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Shimano TL-FC41 DM Chainring Tool 12 speed (Y13098720) - bit.ly/3gY5XuP
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Shimano 12s Chains
Shimano XTR CN-M9100 Chain - 12-Speed - bit.ly/2lTwaBQ
Shimano XT CN-M8100 Chain - 12-Speed - bit.ly/2lUhK4r
Shimano SLX CN-M7100 Chain - 12-Speed - bit.ly/2m1iaGp
Shimano Deore CN-M6100 Chain 12-Speed - bit.ly/341P3Gb
Cranks
SLX FC-M7100 Cranks - bit.ly/3kYkuaL
XT FC-M8100 Crankset - 170mm, 12-Speed - bit.ly/2TQBmnS
Bottom Bracket
Shimano Deore BB52B Hollowtech II English BB - bit.ly/2ZaZQx5
Shimano XT BB-MT800 English Bottom Bracket - bit.ly/2qAi2Mx
Truvativ/SRAM Team GXP English Threaded BB for 68/73mm - bit.ly/2ZmPwBt
SRAM DUB Bottom Bracket English Threaded 68-73mm - bit.ly/2TVmcga
Cassette
Shimano Deore CS-M6100-12 Cassette - bit.ly/39XJX1r
Shimano XT CS-M8100 Cassette 10-51t 12-Speed - bit.ly/2M1yD8s
Shimano SLX CS-M7100 Cassette 10-51t 12-Speed - bit.ly/2O7403W
XTR M9100 12s, 10-51t Cassette bit.ly/2UbM1aO
Micro Spline Freehubs
Sun SRC/SRX Freehub Body Kit - Micro Spline - bit.ly/3oMBEcG
DT Swiss Freehub Ratchet- MicroSpline - bit.ly/2JZvyXL
DT Swiss Microspline Freehub Ratchet EXP - bit.ly/37bBF3W
DT Swiss Freehub Body - MicroSpline, 3-Pawl - bit.ly/2W3mNhQ
Industry Nine Hydra Freehub Body - Micro Spline - bit.ly/377RWak
Stan's NoTubes Durasync Freehub Body: Micro Spline - bit.ly/3oHqPc2
12s Shifters
Shimano XT M8100 Shifter(s) - bit.ly/3m6O65X
Shimano XTR M9100 Shifter(s) - bit.ly/2IFICR5
SLX M7100 Shifter(s) - bit.ly/2J0NLE3
Cable Sets
Shimano MTB Optislick Derailleur Cable Set - bit.ly/37G5pXo
Shimano SP41 Cable Housing - bit.ly/2H7YHhj
Shimano SP41 Cable Grease - bit.ly/2RAaRUn
Jagwire Housing Damping Foam For Internally Routed Frames - bit.ly/3i8f1xm
12s Derailleurs
Shimano Deore RD-M6100-SGS Derailleur 12 Speed - bit.ly/3oHAWgV
Shimano XT RD-M8100-SGS Derailleur - 12-Speed, Long Cage - bit.ly/2k4EBKc
Shimano SLX RD-M7100-SGS Derailleur-12-Speed, Long Cage - bit.ly/2jZ0QRC
Shimano Brakes
Shimano Deore BL-M6100/BR-M6120 4 pot front - bit.ly/3iMwhby
Shimano Deore BL-M6100/BR-M6100 2 pot front - bit.ly/3f8QOEV
Rotors
Shimano XT RT86S 160mm 6-Bolt Ice Tech Disc Brake Rotor - bit.ly/2DWokka
SHIMANO SLX SM-RT66 6-BOLT Rotors - bit.ly/321U0Op
Shimano Dropper Remotes
Shimano Deore MT500 Universal Dropper Remote for I-Spec EV - bit.ly/37apDqA
Shimano XTR SL-MT800 Dropper Remote - bit.ly/3bbadTm
➜Other goodies
WolfTooth Adaptor, Sram Shifter on Shimano I-Spec EV Brakes - bit.ly/3aHvztU
Park Tool FR-5.2 Cassette Lockring Tool - bit.ly/2HRxRqr
Shimano Grease for Shadow RD+ Rear Derailleur - bit.ly/2u4n2yL
Park Tool Polylube 1000 Grease - bit.ly/2qy34qo
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⌚ Timeline
0:00 Intro
0:22 Shimano 12s Features
1:00 12s Chains
1:41 12s Cranks
2:41 Bottom Bracket
3:11 12s Cassette
4:12 Shimano 12s Shifters
4:58 Housing and inner Cable
5:16 Derailleurs
6:04 Shimano Brakes
6:46 Shimano Dropper Remote, Rotors
7.25 Best MIX? Conclusions
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Damn, the amount of effort that you make for explaining all of these are amazing. Its a huge help for us to not search anymore 1by1. Great indept content. Thanks to you sir
Glad to help🤘
Great breakdown and proposed mix and match! 👍 Much appreciated.
It’s so cool you can mix and match components from all the groups. For my hardtail I went with XT cassette (51T), Deore mech, XT shifter, Deore chain, SLX cranks with XT bb and Garbaruk oval chainring, and Deore/Alivio dropper remote (thanks to your video) that works with OneUp dropper. For brakes I went with Magura MT Trails with Magura rotors. All works flawless!
Great video!!! I’m from Brazil and I like the channel. When I discuss about mtb in the other channels, I always show your videos!!!!!
Perfect timing I'm going to upgrade my Trance to SLX and an XT shifter....cheers!
Thx! The best Video about this groupset, which I've been looking for.
Thank you very-very much for the parts list. 💯
Hello Mr. LoveMTB, thank you very much for all the excellent videos. Hope you have a good Christmas. ⛄🎄🎁
Like your videos and tech presentations, very well done! I wish you a beautiful Christmas, from Italy 🇮🇹 🎅🏼🤟🏻🍾
Hi love MTB as expected.. awesome video. Got a mix set up as well XT - RD and shifter SlX7100 crankset And deoree M6100 breakset ... almost a year set-up Rock solid on Trail races 👌👌
Looks like Santa was generous this year! Merry Christmas!
muy buen video, y muy buenas conclusiones, Enhorabuena !!!!
Great video, I run an XTR shifter, XTR cassette XT rear mech and XT crank bike came with SLX brakes which I’m very impressed by but will be changing them to Hope brakes
Have a great Christmas 👍🏼🤟🏼
my perfect Mix : XT shifter, XT Cassette, Slx cranks, Slx chain, Slx derailleur. Best Bang for your buck !
Super reportage
merci👍👍👍👍
I love to see this with SRAM components
@@LoveMTB What are your thoughts about a Shimano mashup like this vid, but using an Ethirteen 9-46t cassette? (Great vid btw, ty.
My pick would probably be:
GX shifter (for aluminum construction)
X01 chain (for durability)
GX cassette (for the 10T cog)
NX/GX derailleur (I don't know the difference)
NX crankset (for low price)
Though a video on that would be nice.
A budget layout if included can be awesome.
Hi LoveMTB, new subscriber here and your videos are super! I am upgrading my son's bike to the Shimano 12s and love that I can mix and match. I noticed you mentioned there is a coating on the 12s chains that helps with the HG+. I have SRAM on my bike and always degrease my new chains to get off the factory goo because I am in FL and we have some much fine sand. Do you recommend doing that with the Shimano 12s chain?
Solid options for the budget AND quality driven riders out there.
@@LoveMTB you too!
Cranks: SLX cranks with a wolf tooth chainring
Chain: XTR sure to coatings
Shifter: XTR sure to bearings
Cassette: XTR sure to weight
derailleur: SLX
Brakes: SLX 4 piston
I pretty much agree with the recommendations. Here in the uk I can pick up a Saint BB cheeper than the XT. They are tougher with bigger bearings, fit and forget.
My SLX chain outlasts chains of my other bikes and is so pleasant to clean, I would change to XT chain but I read that it has different coating that would be harder to clean?
I would probably run the same setup. I'm currently running all Deore but will be switching the shifter & chain to XT fairly soon. Things like jockey wheels etc. will wear out anyway and can be replaced with the XT version when the time comes.
Deore all the way but xt shifter :)
Can i use this chainring set 12 speed...for my 11 speed bike (casste and chain are 11 speed)...thank you...
What a lot of people don't know, Sram 12 mtb derailleurs are actually able to shift up or down the whole range of the cassette with one motion, if you pair it it a micro shift 12 speed thumb shifter. I ride exclusively sram now, because I don't like the way the clutch on the shimano deraillieurs engages way too late, which makes it almost useless.
Fantastic Vid! Building an AllRoad bike, and in my mind if on a budget i'd spend money on Shifters XT, 2x SLX Crank and the rest Deore, so money savings can go to a better wheelset. Would love any other opinion?
The only things that I would change from your selection will be the derailleur, I'll go with the SLX and the Cassette will be a Deore., Excellent video.
Price vs weight in the cassete and for the derailleur I wanna say materials vs price.
What about the Saint SM-BB80 bottom bracket? Any recommendations on that over the Xt 8000 bottom bracket?
So my partners bike has the old style 1x SRAM cranks, with the naff truActive BB... the second one has now gone. As ive been upgrading her stuff to the new Deore kit, will a 11spd chain work on the new 12spd cranks? Long term would be to replace the cassette and mech, shifter with Deore 12s too? I know you cant run 11s on a 12s crank, but surely a 11s would be ok on a 12s?
OK I just saw in "this video that you can get different spindle lengths I did not know that, thx
Great video and completely agree with the recommendations. But right now I’d take any 12 speed shimano I could get my hands on……. Can’t seem to find any stock in the UK 😬
Deore is good enough for 95% of riders.
Can i use shimano m8100 chain ring to shimano m7100crank sir
Just a question because I see so much cool stuff online like general Lee cassette's with black and gold color scheme and brake rotors and pads etc from third party Brand's how can you know what it's compatible with when it doesn't say but just has long coded names of numbers and letters..
Is it a must I use the micro spline free hub body?
I have a deore 12 speed rd and shifter,12 spd slx cassette and slx chain. My question is,can i use a SLX 11 speed crank? Thank you guys
I mix shimano deore cassette 12sp, with XX1 chain, nx cranks, gx shifter and derailleur...PERFECT :-)
@@LoveMTB No..no... Shimano has changed the standard shape on the 12sp chain, and is therefore no compatible with the Sram 12sp chainring... And vice versa sram 12sp chain is no longer compatible with shimano 12sp chainring...cassette are in the same standard...It's not my theory ... various forums
@@LoveMTB Yes ... but ... NX chainring costs 12€ :-)
Sir mix compents that you made at the end are boost compatible?
what you think about 6 bolt or center lock rotors ?
FYI, XT and XTR chains are the same with their new “chromizing” surface treatment. XTR is lighter because of hollow pins
I just upgraded to the Shimano 12 speed and am using the SLX cassette and chain, with XT derrailure and Shifter. No need for me to change my cranks right away.
You can run Sram 12 speed eagle chain as that's what I run and run 4 chains and change them one a week. A lot cheeper. and run SLX cassette.
whats the diff between M7100 vs M9100 (12s chain) ? cuz whats i saw is both have same SIL/TEC
This makes me really want to purchase some goodies
Gift to self ;)
Hi sir, love this video, Mixed transmission is the best choice, For me the best combination is :
M6100 casette, m8100 derailleur, xx1 chain, m8100 shifting lever.
Why do you like the XX1 chain?
Did you compare the shifting to Shimano 12s chains?
@@sebastianjost I didnt had cnhg8100 or m9100 but I had cnhg701 and made my shifting bad, I changed to xx1 and it was 100 Times better, no back pedaling chain drops, much smoother.. a little bit lighter.. And 10 times nicer
Will a m6100 rd work fine with slx m7100 10-45T cassette?
Tôi đang chạy dereo nhưng đĩa trc có 28. Mà muốn có tốc độ cho những chuyến đi dài vì 28 đĩa nhỏ đạp rất mỏi. Giờ muốn nâng cấp đĩa trc lên 32 và đĩa sau sunrace 11s 11/51 T
Liệu nó có phù hợp và hoạt động có ổn ko ạ
Mong bạn rep. Cảm ơn
Just a heads up I have been having good luck with ebay on purchasing items. There seems to be a lot more stock there vs the major retailers. Also anyone interested in reducing weight, you will save the most weight purchasing the xtr cassette vs other items. Thats really the main weight reducing part in their kit. Other items are fairly close. Very happy moving to the 12 speed from a 36x22 T, 10 speed.
@@LoveMTB Good point! Now that I think about it, I didnt even look at the Deore cranks.
Can i use deore crankset instead?
I got the whole xt group set, i went with shimano all together just because i like the feel of the brake, i like them even more now that I’ve learnt how to dial out the dead zone so that as soon as you apply the brakes its an instant bite. I would like to know the difference between xt and xtr brakes. But im also hoping that they upgrade the saint brakes soon
As always the difference between XT and XTR is pretty much only weight.
XT has all the features from XTR.
XTR may have some slightly better heat dissipation but for almost every non-professional rider I doubt anyone would notice that.
Full Xtr, is the BEST! 😎
Cool
Considering the chain, which one would last the longest? A KMC or a Shimano XT?
Is it okay deore shifter to xt rd?
For me it's a balance of weight, durability and cost..............For me it's the SLX cranks, SLX cassette, XT chain, XT derailleur, XT shifter, Deore M6120 4 pot brakes and deore rotors.
@@LoveMTB - Was thinking that too, but alloy rings wear faster than steel..............and you really only use the top ring on steep climbs, leaving the rest steel for longevity for a 100g weight penalty. SLX only has the top ring as alloy and steel for the rest.
My gear shift cable on my mountain bike has given up the ghost becoming sticky and hard to push, i pulled it apart to clean it and lube it then reinstalled it and its 50% better but not awesome... i just ordered this Shimano Advanced OT-SP41 OPTISLICK MTB Shifting Cable Set in this video see how it goes👍
@@LoveMTB Nice! Im looking forward to it thanks! I had a ride of a 2021 Merioa 8000 emtb (sells for close to 10k here in Australia) last week for a good 2hr ride and the shifter was so light to press and we both have xt gear set up, i noticed on this 10k bike the shift cable is 1 peace internally routed. Do you think 1 peace or what i have ( 3 peace cable housing exposed wire) has the least resistance? Im willing to install either way for least resistance! i ride the wheels off my bike a few times a week and would press the shifter thousands of times in a week. Im not worried about looks i want practical what one is lighter shifting in your opinion? Even the short answer from you would be great if you can, even saying one is % better in you opinion would be great and appreciated 😁
@@LoveMTB thanks mate! Makes sense. I'm going to give one peace a go then 👍the dust gets pretty dusty here and gets into everything, i enjoy watching your videos! thanks🤘👍
I bought new xt 8100 12 speed for 70 dollars and sold my 11 speed xtr derailleur for 50 dollars for the bigger wheels and it works perfectly . And My 11 speed derailleur fixed on 10 speed cassette what a mess 😅
What are the differences between the MT800 and the MT500? Why do you recommend the MT800 BB?
Is there anything I need to change from your suggested setup if I plan to run a 2x setup? Like cranktset and front derailleur?
@@LoveMTB SLX, Deore, or XT? What would you recommend?
Hi, what do you think of this 12speed combination?
Crankset, chain and cogs - slx m7100
Shifter and rd - M6100
Thank you so much.
@@LoveMTB Alright. Thank you so much. :)
XT Shifter, Deore Rear Derailleur (upgraded with XT's ball bearing tension and guide pulley set which sells for 20$) , SLX Crankset, SLX Cassette, and Deore 12speed chain (XT chain costs twice as much and would rather have a fresh chain replacement earlier rather than later)
@@LoveMTB dry and dusty here in California, no amount of chain 'coating' will get rid of the wear primarily caused by dry dust. After two days of riding, chains start to look like they've been sandblasted around here.
Would rather clean, and dry lube it more frequently., then replace it earlier.
SO...can You use the xt pulley Cage in a slx rd? bent My slx and there are only the xt parts in stock
@@kevinportilla9320 you can use the Pulleys from the RD-M8100 (which is sold separately - Y3FW98010) can be installed on both the RD-M7100 (SLX) and RD-M6100 (DEORE).
I actually have a couple of RD-M6100's with the RD-M8100 pulleys- exactly the same size (aside from the bearing).
@@georgedaswani9155same Logic with the inner plate right Y3FW26000? Ty very much for the info, you save me buying a new derailleur
Hey man, really liking your videos! Also, can you confirm that the 6100 brakes have less degrees of rotation in the i spec compared to the 7100 brakes? Do you think that and the Pin instead of the screw on the caliper could be an issue? Thanks in advance for your help!
@@LoveMTB Thanks!
There is a difference but for me it doesn't matter at all.
I always have the levers as close to each other as possible and I think the added movement clearance doesn't go in that direction.
For me it is SLX Cranks and Chain, Deore Rear Mac, XT Shifter and Cassette...
What's the total MSRP on this optimal mix?
Xtr shifter, xt crank and rear mech. I’m not a fan of shimano chains prefer kmc sl chains I’d be tempted to go sunrace cassette and kmc chain. My 10spd setup of the same cassette n chain combo works great
@@LoveMTB there’s options for sure as I’d be open to try something like an e-thirteen cassette with 12spd mech n shifter. is there a short cage mech if I use the 10-45 cassette on a 1x?
What is your frame in this video sir?
Would a Shimano chain improve the under load shifting of a Sram setup?
it would most likely slip like the road stuff
I ride full xt. My ocd wont let me mix n match :(. XT is the sweetspot for me.
LoveMTB can i mix the SLX brake lever with the XT Piston? M7100 with M8100 ?
@@LoveMTB does xt7100 calipers brake the same than the xt 8100 , they sram equal
nice explanation
so this is becase Hyperglide+ technology
please make SRAM version
Will do
Want to build a (36t&26t)2x12speed (10t to 51t)
using 6100, 7100, 8100 components, does anyone have experience mixing them and having good results,
Thx,im on a budget😁
What are the models you use:
Crank:
Rear RD:
Rear shifter:
Front shifter:
Front RD:
Cogs:
Chain:
Thats the same combo I came up with, seems like the most reasonable tradeoff in terms of price to performance / weight. Now if only shimano hadn't canceled the 'scylence' hubs ... my current micro spline hub on my dt swiss 1200 is sooo loud, it's kind of annoying actually.
That sound is from your DT hub. Doesn't matter which freehub body type you put on there. The system 8100 wheels are still silent...
@@Barkything yeah you're right, I kinda got things mixed up there... Shimano did work on silent ones though, that I know for sure.
cs m7100 10-45 or 10-51?
possibleto mixed XTR BSA BB93 WITH XT CRANKSET?
Sure👍
Good Day, while changing the chain ring to non-shimano chain ring brand, does hyperglide+ still works?
HG+ is a function of the chain and cassette. However you would want to get a chainring that is HG+ compatible, it will have slightly narrower teeth to accomodate the proprietary HG+ chain.
@@LoveMTB Could you recommend a brand of chainring, aside from Shimano, that is compatible with Hyperglide Plus (HG+)?
@@kari1312 We use absoluteBlack, Wolf Tooth, Garbaruk, there's tons of options out there. Some might be in the description of my video.
Have had both and shimano by far is my choice. Near bullet proof reliability and durability.
@@LoveMTB yea the alu cogs is one of those things like chains, it wont last as long.. its a compromise ie btw weight and durability ; slx/xt vs deore cassettes. The rest are pretty much, in my experience, bullet proof. I ve got the slx m7000 n xt m8000 rear mechs, brakes, chainring (the xt alu chainring still in good condition) etc on a couple of bikes n havent touch any of them in 2 years (exluding brakes pads, chains, bled the xt brakes once etc). Smashed the xt rear mech a few times (replaced the hanger 4 times in 2 years) but still running smoothly. I do admit i am one of those who clean their bikes almost after every ride so maintenance help keep it running smooth. Compared to my gx where the rear mech clutch doesnt last very long and code brakes are a pain to bleed correctly.
@@LoveMTB in my experience it's always the smaller steel cogs that wore out first on 11 speed xt cassettes
not had to replace a 12 speed one yet i'm on my second m8100 chain and first m8100 10-51 cassette
Agree 100%. I’ll never go SRAM again.
@@mattcardarelli i dont think there's a lot in it between sram and shimano on the high end, the cheaper sram groupsets really suck though shit durability
Yea agree with all above
Hmmm i like shimano 😊
Can I use SLX(single)chainring on XT crank?
Yes you can
Hi new to this ! Is this still the best mixes ? Also what hubs to use ?
Yes and I have a lot of videos on the site about hubs etc. It is mentioned here in the video also, one example - ruclips.net/video/COACxEtQUR8/видео.html
And details - ruclips.net/video/meZdvmJZlFc/видео.html
@@LoveMTB thanks sooo much ! You’re awesome
Hello sir 😅 Im planning to buy SLX crank 34t to my 11 speed shimano drivetrain is it compatible with m5100 or there will be some issues with the crank teeth and 11 speed chain? 😅😅😅
@@LoveMTB thank you so much! 😁
Full XT 8100+8120 brakes
Can you put an xt shifter with an slx derailleur
Definitely
@@LoveMTB and it will still have the multi shift functionality? Cause i only need slx groupset but want the functionality of the xt shifter
@@cs.adventures You know from my other video about shifters what you're getting with the XT shifter. So yes🙂
@@LoveMTB thank you i know what the shifters do just making sure the xt shifter worked with an slx derailleur, thats all. Thank you
XT top to bottom on my next bike
now we just need supply chains to catch back up, i cant even buy brake pads 😆😐
Yeah. I can't order nothing right now
I hear ya
I want to buy a new 10t and 12t sprocked but its not available 😳
Why do you prefer 6 bolts over centerlock? I have read that centerlock can develop play between rotor and hub. I need to choose new wheels so I have to decide centerlock or 6 bolts
Using CL rotos on CL hubs over 2 yrs on 2 bikes and no play at all, still firm as 6 bolts version.
@@LoveMTB thanks for your reply! In the video you show only 6 bolts rotors so I thought you use 6 bolt system. I will go with centerlock because I take off the rotors 1)when wash the bike 2)when lubricate the transmision 3)when give maintenance to the hubs. So centerlock will be the way. I have stripped t25 bolts and is a PITA, so I keep buying new bolts. Centerlock seems a lot easier system. I was afraid because comments in internet about centerlock problems, but they are a very little minority, most people are happy with centerlock and have not problems with the centerlock interface. Thank you!
Also never had issues with cl.
I would choose center lock wheels with adapters to 6-bolt. (There are no adapters for the other direction)
That way you get the best of both worlds
The finned discs from Shimano look great but only come with centerlock. Centerlock is also a lot faster to take the disc off for cleaning.
6-bolt can be taken apart with a Multitool though. But when do you ever need to take off you disc trailside?
@Maciej Jan Długosz ouch...
Whats the largest cassette you can get to use with a medium cage mech?
Medium, 11-51 without worries
Wow. I was thinking 42 or 46. I have an xc/trail bike and i dont want to add to much weight to the back end. It has a 11x36 now with a zee short cage and im looking for a nice light combo to help with climbing. Just dont want to...
1 add a lot of weight
2 spend a lot of money.
@@Hawlkeye-e9p I have 11-46 m8000 and m8000 RD with gs cage(medium)
@@Hawlkeye-e9p go for the 11 speed 11-46 setup
Best cyasete
What is the difference between the Shimano BB52, BB MT500 and BB MT800?
@@LoveMTB i can interchange them as long as my frame threaded? Thank you.
I'd buy a full XTR group set only if I race 😎
It is the XT Race groupset after all...🙂
I think I’m the only one using deore cassette here😅. I don’t like the black paint peeling on larger gears.
FS-XT
RD-XT
FC-CT
CS-Deore
CN-Deore
BR-XT
My 12 speed XT spec bike came with KMC chain and didn’t feel the difference in shifting compared to 11 speed XT. I replaced the KMC chain with XT and wow... butter smooth shifting up and down, better than 11 speed XT.
I've noticed quite a few new bikes being specced with shimano 12 speed cassettes and kmc chains and cheap cranks... penny pinching bike manufacturers
@@LoveMTB stuff like this.. just hurts my head... £6200 bike and they put an slx shifter on and sram cranks 😂😂 www.orangebikes.co.uk/bikes/stage-6-factory/2021
Deore or slx ?
Great video! Can you do the same with Sram?
@@LoveMTB thank would be amazing! I am from Colombia and my and my friends love all your videos, exccellent reviews, recommendations and tests, always wating for your new upload. What do you suggest to upgrade my sx group set with nx derrailleur?
@@LoveMTB sorry for my bad english, my bike came that way, what do you suggest to improve?
@@LoveMTB ok thank you very much. Which Sram shifter do you recommend?
@@LoveMTB thanks, do you think that is a good upgrade to change de Sx shifter for the Gx shifter?
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How about these combinations Sir?
Shifter - XT
RD - XT
chain deore
Cassette - SLX
How about
Shifter SLX
RD XT
Chain SLX
Cassette SLX?
Why would you recommend xtr chain while xt is almost half the price?
@@LoveMTB Jesus dude, you're right! Shimano ditched siltec for xt in 12 speed. I ride 11 speed and only difference between xt and xtr are hollow pins (10 grams) and price.
Shows what you know
The Deore chain is 1 gram lighter than the Xtr chain but about triple the price
And also the Slx crankset is lighter than the Xt crankset
whens 12 speed di2 coming 😁
Shimanos 100th anniversary is in march iirc. Probably then
summary: go with XT or XTR except the crankset 😂
My bike has a full XT group set 😎 🔝 (except for the wheels, I have DT Swiss wheels)
The XTR 91xx crankset has different design than XT 81xx and SLX 71xx. Xt and SLX has old style and XTR has pre-load adjuster on the non-drive side. I dont believe Shimano cranksets chainline and q-factor options, differ true spindle lenght. IT is chainring offset and crank arm design.
@@LoveMTB I'll have Both fc-m9100 and fc-m9120 in house in a few weeks. I'll compare and measure the spindles and chainrings. I really want to know how offset is done. I'll let you know the outcome! Thanks for the Nice reviews!