Thank you for a comprehensive discussion of this topic. I’m a former Seventh-day Adventist now a Catholic. SDAs believe that early Christians departed from the teachings of the Apostles when they started to forget about the Sabbath and worship on the pagan Sunday. There’s hardly any support for their theory but that’s what they believe and believe it they must, just to keep their identity.
Saturday is the oldest Sabbath traditionally kept by the Jews. Sunday IS error and will be mandated by the Vatican! You are in error, run from that pedo-infested place!
@YAJUNYUAN You seem to be lacking even in basic comprehension, that explains your behavior in interacting with Apostolic faiths, and that explains why you stick with Adventism. That means no written discussion will be fruitful with you. But believe me, I’m praying for you. I hope one day the scales will fall from your eyes.
God set the day, that's the LORD'S day Sabbath was made for man. It was Blest, Sanctified and made Holy. The Bible that man will change times and Law. God said (Remember) the Sabbath day and keep it Holy. The Law was changed On March 7, 321, however, Roman Emperor Constantine I issued a civil decree making Sunday a day of rest from labor, stating: March 7, 321, however, Roman Emperor Constantine I issued a civil decree making Sunday a day of rest from labor, stating: Man Changed Gods Law. You Worship God's way or Mans way.
These podcasts are great, you should have way more subscribers. Keep up boys. The Lord's day is the first and the eighth, the first and the last day, the alpha and omega. Great realization
I was actually just thinking about this the other day. I knew about the Roman calculation of a day essentially being like our own, as well as the Jewish reckoning of sunset to sunset, but I had no clue the Greeks calculated it morning to morning. On another note I've always been a fan of vigils myself. I've always associated it with keeping watch in the night for those in the morning, as well as the Garden of Gethsemane.
Its a great day when a new Catholic Brothers video pops up on my feed! Thanks again guys. On another note, I have a few questions I'd be keen to ask you and wondered whether you'd be okay with passing on your email address?
Ha! As I see my hairline progressively throwing up the white flag, I figured I’d give long hair one last go before I catch up with Daniel. 😂 Thanks for tuning in, as always!
Is it not called "the Lord's supper", due to the connection to the *last* supper, which was in the evening and not due to a connection to when somebody was celebrating the weekly remembrance of it?
@@tafazzi-on-discord Well, after 7 months, I'm don't remember the content of this episode... But from what I have written back then, I think my point was that one *can* celebrate a mass at any time in remembrance of the last supper, and call it "the Lord's supper". But then (now missing any context I might have had back then) I wonder why we would haggle about an English term. I'm not a native English speaker and in my language we don't call the mass/celebration/remembrance a "supper". We do associate it though, like: At the Eucharist we celebrate the Lord's Supper. But we don't call it like that ("After the Crede we celebrate the Lord's Supper"). I don't know how it is in English, but the early Christians certainly did not call it "The Lord's Supper" (English words) in the first century.
This is just a thought but I would love to have you guys do a series on church documents (maybe papal encyclicals) you think would be worth diving into. Some of them seem pretty intimidating, but you guys always do an awesome job of teaching.
They do read scripture at home. They also hear the entire Bible read to them at church, it takes about 3 years. So every 3 years, they hear the entire Bible at church. Also, the daily divine office (liturgy of hours), is said several times throughout the day, which is scripture. Youd be shocked how our church is built on Jesus, which is the Word, and the Bible is a catholic book
Only Catholics know how to read and study the Bible. Everyone else just imagines what they think the Bible says, like toddlers just learning the alphabet.
Was the earth, the heavens, and the seas made only for the people of Israel, or was it made for the whole world? In the same way, the Sabbath was made and left for the whole world. You shall not add or take away anything from the word of God. Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. Mat 5:17 because Abraham obeyed me and did everything I required of him, keeping my commands, my decrees and my instructions. Gen 26:5 (Abraham keep the Sabbath before the teen commands and before israel) 25 “Eat it today,” Moses said, “because today is a sabbath to the Lord. You will not find any of it on the ground today. 26 Six days you are to gather it, but on the seventh day, the Sabbath, there will not be any.” 27 Nevertheless, some of the people went out on the seventh day to gather it, but they found none. 28 Then the Lord said to Moses, “How long will you[c] refuse to keep my commands and my instructions? 29 Bear in mind that the Lord has given you the Sabbath; that is why on the sixth day he gives you bread for two days. Everyone is to stay where they are on the seventh day; no one is to go out.” 30 So the people rested on the seventh day. Exod. 16:25-30 (before the teen commandments, before Sinai) For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it. James 2:10 Let us not forget that the Sabbath was instituted even before sin entered the world; it was not only blessed by God but also sanctified. What other day in the Bible holds such importance for God? I cannot find a single hint anywhere in the entire Bible that says, 'Brethren, now there are only 9 commandments; God has changed His mind about the Sabbath.' Never, ever should we put false words in God's Word. Jesus left us the Lord's Supper to remember Him, and through baptism, we are baptized into His death and resurrection. Mark 7:7-9 These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. 7 They worship me in vain; their teachings are merely human rules.’ 8 You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.” 9 And he continued, “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions! Jeremiah 6:10,16 10 To whom can I speak and give warning? Who will listen to me? Their ears are closed so they cannot hear. The word of the Lord is offensive to them; they find no pleasure in it. 16 This is what the Lord says: “Stand at the crossroads and look; ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it, and you will find rest for your souls. But you said, ‘We will not walk in it.’ Anyway, tell me, what logic is there in the fact that Jesus kept the Sabbath, the apostles kept the Sabbath, that the apostle Paul went to the synagogue on the Sabbath as was his custom, and that the early Christians kept the Sabbath until around 100 A.D., only for some to gradually decide to change it to Sunday and, eventually, through a council, officially change it from Saturday to Sunday? It wasn't God, it wasn't Jesus Christ, it wasn't the apostles or Paul; it was a council. In the Bible, things are clear-God is not a God of confusion. 'He does nothing without revealing it to His servants the prophets. This is how we know that we love the children of God: by loving God and carrying out his commands. 3 In fact, this is love for God: to keep his commands. And his commands are not burdensome. 1 John 5: 2-3 It's not only about one day, it's a symbol, it's the sign of God, his sealing, his perfect plan concluded. It is not just about the day, is HIS day because he take that day as a symbol for all the eternity, like the " cherry on the cake" the way that God chose to be, and he decided this even before the creation, like all the things, God's plans are perfectly thought out in detail even before they are made, transcending our traditions or understandings. How we can still keep changing God words, trying to be God in the place of God? 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. Rev. 14:12 God bless you all my brothers, love you ❤
@@TheCatholicBrothers Hi. We are taking of different things here: The change of circumcision to a non-mandatory practice for Gentile Christians was part of a transition from ceremonial shadows to the reality in Christ, but there is no equivalent for the Sabbath in the Scriptures. The Sabbath was instituted at creation, reaffirmed before and in the Ten Commandments, and kept by Jesus, the apostles, and the early Christians. There is no biblical basis to assert that God or Christ authorized a change from Sabbath to Sunday. Any such change was introduced by human traditions, not by divine command. Jesus warned in Mark 7:7-9 that it is dangerous to “set aside the commandment of God to follow the traditions of men.” Circumcision was instituted as a sign of the covenant between God and Abraham and was part of a ceremonial covenant that pointed to Christ. However, these laws were symbolic, is not moral law or a commandment. However, even if you want to see that it's was abolish by a council, that was abolish by the apostles of Jesus inspired by the holy spirit. And you can finde this in the Bible so, at least you have an evidence of that, but not for the change of the Sabbath. Also, Iarael had a system of sacrifices and festivals, an image of what was to come, which symbolized Christ, his sacrifice and resurrection. Christ was the perfect fulfillment of it. The sacrificial system reached its culmination and Jesus, as we are told in Hebrews, is high priest in the heavenly sanctuary. Regards
Shouldn’t be any issues for Jewish Christians (that term definitely needs to be defined, btw) as the Sabbath would continue to be a day of rest and Sunday the day of the Eucharistic sacrifice.
Hi, great video, just wondering if in regards to the comment that the Sabbath is still a day of rest and Sunday a time for Eucharist, is Sabbath as a day of rest something all should do in your opinion, or just if one is a Christian of Jewish heritage?
The Christian Worship was the Breaking of Bread (Eucharist) which was for the 1st time celebrated by JESUS CHRIST on Sunday late afternoon (almost evening) at Emmaus (See Luke 24:1-30).
It’s not a commandment from God to only worship on one day and say this is the day god said we should worship on … Fellowship is advised in the Bible … but it didn’t say meet on Sunday or and Saturday and fellowship… Yess the sabbath is a holy day and Saturday is the sabbath … the question should be how then can we keep Gods entire law because everyone on them is equally important… inclusive the sabbath Matthew 5 :::::: Christ spoke of how he didn’t come to do away with any law and even if we like it or not in in heaven we shall be keeping the sabbath
The thing is what exactly are we to do and not do it … we can go back on forth over this topic fact is his word will still stand and we just have to obey if really we love him … how are we to keep the sabbath day holy irrespective of the fact that some go to church on Friday Sunday Saturday Monday whatever
The Sabbath (Day Seven) is Sovereign YAHUEH's day. Sunday (Day One) is the Lord's (Baal's) day. The Sabbath is a sign (Exo 31:13; 31:17). The day starts at daybreak. Refer to Genesis chapter one. The sun goes down, the sun comes up - a day. Sovereign YAHUEH (Rev 14:1; Eze 39:7; Acts 2:21) is for followers of Messiah YAHUSHA (YAHU saves). The Lord God (Baal Gad) is for followers of Christ Jesus (EA Zeus). Sabbath observance is for followers of Messiah YAHUSHA (YAHU saves). Sunday worship is for followers of Christ Jesus (EA Zeus). Festival of Booths (Indwelling - Lev 23:33-44) is for followers of Messiah YAHUSHA (YAHU saves). Christmas (Yule/Solstice/Nimrod) is for followers of Christ Jesus (EA Zeus). Passover is for followers of Messiah YAHUSHA (YAHU saves). Easter is for followers of Christ Jesus (EA Zeus). The stake is for followers of Messiah YAHUSHA (YAHU saves). The cross (Tammuz) is for followers of Christ Jesus (EA Zeus). Middle-of-the-week impalement of Messiah YAHUSHA (Mat 20:40) is for followers of Messiah YAHUSHA (YAHU saves). Sixth day crucifixion is for followers of Christ Jesus (EA Zeus). Sealing as a protection against the seven trumpets (Rev 7:1-8; 9:4) is for followers of Messiah YAHUSHA (YAHU saves). The lake of fire (Rev 19:20; 20:10; 20:14-15) is for followers of Christ Jesus (EA Zeus) and other rebels. The first resurrection (Rev 20:5-6) is for followers of Messiah YAHUSHA (YAHU saves). The rapture is for followers of Christ Jesus (EA Zeus). Love, Light, Laughter, and Prosperity...
Thanks for the comment, but to be honest, there are so many errors in there, both biblically, philologically, and historically, that I truly would not know where to start. .. What religious persuasion are you?
@@TheCatholicBrothers Quite simple. Start at the top and work to the end providing scriptural references for the stand. What religious persuasion was the Messiah YAHUSHA of Natsaret? Love, Light, Laughter, and Prosperity...
@@TheCatholicBrothers The ignorance and confusion are on the uploader's end. Jesus (EA Zeus) worship is idol worship. There is no J, W, or V sound in Hebrew, Aramaic, or Greek, rendering Jehovah, Yahweh, and Jesus incorrect. What part does idolatry, idolaters, liars, and deceivers have in Sovereign YAHUEH's righteous realm (Rev 22:15)? Judaism, like Christianity, is a religion. Religion is the work of the Whore of Babel (Rev 17:6). Catholicism is the mother (Rev 17:5), sects are its offspring. Judaism starts the day at sundown instead of at sunup as ordained by the Word. (The world starts the day in the middle of the night). Judaism starts the year in the fall instead of in the spring season of renewal as ordained by the Word. (The world stats the year in the cold season of death). According to Judaism, the Messiah is yet to come and Messiah YAHUSHA of Natsaret, the offspring of a whore, is boiling in hot excrement in a Hades. Followers of Judaism, like followers of any religion, are followers of unrighteousness. Once ego, tradition, and fear are overcome, enlightenment, truth, and love enter. Love, Light, Laughter, and Prosperity...
@@TheCatholicBrothers Those religiously persuaded are ensnared in the Whore's net (Rev 17:1-2). Come out of it (Rev 18:4). Download a copy of the Scripture with an accompanying lexicon, start at Genesis and end at the last word in Revelation. One by one, from Hebrew to Aramaic to Greek, compare the words in the translation to the lexicon and note any discrepancies. Though this is a tedious exercise and takes a while, it is a worthwhile investment into Messiah - the Way, Truth, and Immortality. During the exercise, note names starting with a J really have a Y sound. For example: H 3290 - Ya'aqob translated as Jacob; H 3124 - Yonah translated as Jonah; H 3383 - Yarden translated as Jordan. Jesus (EA Zeus) dies upon this truth. The two spies Mosheh sent out were Caleb of the tribe of Yehudah and Yahusha of the tribe of Ephrayim. The name of Yahusha of the tribe of Ephrayim is the same as Messiah YAHUSHA of Natsaret. To check, refer to Hebrews 4:8. G 2424 - older translations state Jesus, newer ones read Joshua. G 2424 is the Messiah's name. This is the secret and the key. Once one realizes Jesus is the incorrect name, and only one name saves (Acts 4:12), the next logical step is knowing Messiah's true name. There is a buffet of names out there on offer to choose from. Only the Pure Spirit of Sovereign YAHUEH reveals Truth (Yahukhanan 15:26-27; 16:13). Messiah's name is a PIN/Password, so know both the Creator's name and the Messiah's name (Pro 30:4). Help: The name of the Highest is comprised of four vowel sounds - ee; ah; oo; eh. YAHUEH is a transliteration. Messiah's name translated means YAHU saves (Mat 1:21). Messiah literally and figuratively comes in the name of the Highest. HalleluYAH - translated is Praise you YAH. YAH and YAHU are short versions of YAHUEH. List for the YAH (ee - ah) sound at the end of many Scripture writers and servants of the Highest. There is no coming to Sovereign YAHUEH except through Messiah YAHUSHA (Yahukhanan 14:6) and there is no coming to Messiah YAHUSHA of Natsaret unless Sovereign YAHUEH desires it so (Yahukhana 6:44; 6:65). Those attaining to the first resurrection were first drawn to Messiah by Abba YAH (Rom 8:15; Gal 4:16). The high and excellent goal is attaining to the coming first resurrection (Rev 20:5-6). The sealed and protected against the seven trumpets (Rev 7:1-8; 9:4) - the martyr's for Sovereign YAHUEH and Messiah YAHUSHA of Natsaret - are the Body of Messiah YAHUSHA of Natsaret. Messiah YAHUSHA of Natsaret is Sovereign YAHUEH's Lamb and Heir. Religion and tradition are idolatrous traps. Many are called, few (144,000 - Rev 7:1-8; 14:1-5) - the Remnant (Rev 12:17) - attain to the first resurrection. Love, Light, Laughter, and Prosperity...
What does the Bible say is sin? "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law." God commands us to worship on Sabbath (Friday night to Saturday night). Man tells us to worship on Sunday which is sin. God also tells us that following the doctrine of men your worship is vain (Mark 7:7, Matthew 15:8-10). Those that love God, are His saints and go to heaven all keep His commandments (Exodus 20:6, Revelation 14:12 & 22:14). Your welcome!
Galatians 3 : 24 and 25 So the law was a guardian until CHRIST came that we might be justified through faith. Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian. Deuteronomy 5 : 12 through 15 The Sabbath was in remembrance of the LORD'S work in delivering Israel from slavery in Egypt. We are no longer under the law which included the 10 commandments. Gentiles were never under slavery in Egypt so the Sabbath doesn't apply to them. Christians are not supposed to keep it. CHRIST came, died and was resurrected for our sins.
@@alvarez321 Saturday night is Sunday by Hebrew reckoning. So, that many (not all) early Christians offered the Eucharist on Saturday night still places the Christian gathering on Sunday. Also, this is the more awkward thing about our friend’s comment above….. Jews didn’t worship exclusively on the Sabbath. Priests in the Temple weren’t sacrificing in the Temple only on the sabbath. The synagogal gathering on Saturday morning is a second Temple Jewish custom, nowhere mentioned in the Torah. So, there’s literally nothing in the old covenant that demands that worship be restricted to the Sabbath alone.
It comes down to a choice: do we follow our Creator's calendar and His appointed times or do we follow a pagan calendar and its associated man made traditions. Check scripture: palm Sunday, good Friday, and resurrection Sunday are all man made traditions, not the days that Jesus fulfilled.
@@TheCatholicBrothers sda? I don't know what that means. But I do know that we're to Worship the Lord on Saturday. And the Easter is the celebration of the Pagan goddess of fertility. Research it it is a fact I don't know what you meant but I have a feeling here disputing what I said.
@@paulettelamontagne7153 Where is the evidence for that Easter is a celebration of the goddess of fertility? The evidence for Easter is found in the inspired Gospels, except that it's not called Easter in the Bible. It's only called Easter in English and German. Almost all other languages use "Pascha" based on the Hebrew word for passover. Moreover, Easter probably comes from the Germanic word for east, not from a fertility goddess.
Really appreciate this video.
Excellent video and use of the sources. This is a topic I would like to converse about over in my channel, if you gentlemen would be down for that.
Hey Brother, sounds good. Shoot us an email at thecatholicbrothers@gmail.com to coordinate something.
@@TheCatholicBrothersone year later and I just saw that you responded to my comment. If you are still down for the conversation, let me know!
Thank you for a comprehensive discussion of this topic. I’m a former Seventh-day Adventist now a Catholic. SDAs believe that early Christians departed from the teachings of the Apostles when they started to forget about the Sabbath and worship on the pagan Sunday. There’s hardly any support for their theory but that’s what they believe and believe it they must, just to keep their identity.
Saturday is the oldest Sabbath traditionally kept by the Jews. Sunday IS error and will be mandated by the Vatican! You are in error, run from that pedo-infested place!
@YAJUNYUAN show me
@YAJUNYUAN You seem to be lacking even in basic comprehension, that explains your behavior in interacting with Apostolic faiths, and that explains why you stick with Adventism. That means no written discussion will be fruitful with you. But believe me, I’m praying for you. I hope one day the scales will fall from your eyes.
YAJUNYUAN! What ever happened to that guy?
He used to troll Catholic channels 7 days a week...even on the Sabbath!
God set the day, that's the LORD'S day Sabbath was made for man. It was Blest, Sanctified and made Holy. The Bible that man will change times and Law. God said (Remember) the Sabbath day and keep it Holy.
The Law was changed On March 7, 321, however, Roman Emperor Constantine I issued a civil decree making Sunday a day of rest from labor, stating: March 7, 321, however, Roman Emperor Constantine I issued a civil decree making Sunday a day of rest from labor, stating: Man Changed Gods Law. You Worship God's way or Mans way.
Psalms 111 : 7,8,10. Matthew 24 : 20. Revelation 12 : 17.
Great discussion! So by extension does this mean I can eat steak after sundown on Friday night now? The plot thickens and I’m here for it!
These podcasts are great, you should have way more subscribers. Keep up boys. The Lord's day is the first and the eighth, the first and the last day, the alpha and omega. Great realization
Hebrews 4 : 4, 8,9, 10,11.
I was actually just thinking about this the other day. I knew about the Roman calculation of a day essentially being like our own, as well as the Jewish reckoning of sunset to sunset, but I had no clue the Greeks calculated it morning to morning.
On another note I've always been a fan of vigils myself. I've always associated it with keeping watch in the night for those in the morning, as well as the Garden of Gethsemane.
Its a great day when a new Catholic Brothers video pops up on my feed! Thanks again guys. On another note, I have a few questions I'd be keen to ask you and wondered whether you'd be okay with passing on your email address?
Hey Tim! Thanks for the encouragement! Our email is thecatholicbrothers@gmail.com
Great content. Also, Steven I miss the sick fades.
Ha! As I see my hairline progressively throwing up the white flag, I figured I’d give long hair one last go before I catch up with Daniel. 😂
Thanks for tuning in, as always!
Would you guys be tackling the topics of the crusades and also sedevacantism in future podcasts?
Is it not called "the Lord's supper", due to the connection to the *last* supper, which was in the evening and not due to a connection to when somebody was celebrating the weekly remembrance of it?
if from the beginning the christians celebrated it at luchtime theynwould have called it "Lord's banquet" or "Lord's meal" I think
@@tafazzi-on-discord Well, after 7 months, I'm don't remember the content of this episode...
But from what I have written back then, I think my point was that one *can* celebrate a mass at any time in remembrance of the last supper, and call it "the Lord's supper".
But then (now missing any context I might have had back then) I wonder why we would haggle about an English term. I'm not a native English speaker and in my language we don't call the mass/celebration/remembrance a "supper". We do associate it though, like: At the Eucharist we celebrate the Lord's Supper. But we don't call it like that ("After the Crede we celebrate the Lord's Supper"). I don't know how it is in English, but the early Christians certainly did not call it "The Lord's Supper" (English words) in the first century.
This is just a thought but I would love to have you guys do a series on church documents (maybe papal encyclicals) you think would be worth diving into. Some of them seem pretty intimidating, but you guys always do an awesome job of teaching.
The Institute of Catholic Culture have a wonderful series by Dr John Pepino on various councils. Really worth watching on their site.
All roads lead to Rome. They don't lead out of Rome.
If you are a Jew in the year 2022 you are counting days beginning at sundown. There was evening and there was morning, the first day, etc.
Catholics should really study the Bible.
They do read scripture at home.
They also hear the entire Bible read to them at church, it takes about 3 years. So every 3 years, they hear the entire Bible at church.
Also, the daily divine office (liturgy of hours), is said several times throughout the day, which is scripture. Youd be shocked how our church is built on Jesus, which is the Word, and the Bible is a catholic book
Only Catholics know how to read and study the Bible. Everyone else just imagines what they think the Bible says, like toddlers just learning the alphabet.
Was the earth, the heavens, and the seas made only for the people of Israel, or was it made for the whole world? In the same way, the Sabbath was made and left for the whole world. You shall not add or take away anything from the word of God.
Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. Mat 5:17
because Abraham obeyed me and did everything I required of him, keeping my commands, my decrees and my instructions. Gen 26:5 (Abraham keep the Sabbath before the teen commands and before israel)
25 “Eat it today,” Moses said, “because today is a sabbath to the Lord. You will not find any of it on the ground today. 26 Six days you are to gather it, but on the seventh day, the Sabbath, there will not be any.”
27 Nevertheless, some of the people went out on the seventh day to gather it, but they found none. 28 Then the Lord said to Moses, “How long will you[c] refuse to keep my commands and my instructions? 29 Bear in mind that the Lord has given you the Sabbath; that is why on the sixth day he gives you bread for two days. Everyone is to stay where they are on the seventh day; no one is to go out.” 30 So the people rested on the seventh day. Exod. 16:25-30 (before the teen commandments, before Sinai)
For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it. James 2:10
Let us not forget that the Sabbath was instituted even before sin entered the world; it was not only blessed by God but also sanctified. What other day in the Bible holds such importance for God?
I cannot find a single hint anywhere in the entire Bible that says, 'Brethren, now there are only 9 commandments; God has changed His mind about the Sabbath.' Never, ever should we put false words in God's Word.
Jesus left us the Lord's Supper to remember Him, and through baptism, we are baptized into His death and resurrection.
Mark 7:7-9
These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.
7 They worship me in vain;
their teachings are merely human rules.’
8 You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.”
9 And he continued, “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions!
Jeremiah 6:10,16
10 To whom can I speak and give warning?
Who will listen to me?
Their ears are closed
so they cannot hear.
The word of the Lord is offensive to them;
they find no pleasure in it.
16 This is what the Lord says:
“Stand at the crossroads and look;
ask for the ancient paths,
ask where the good way is, and walk in it,
and you will find rest for your souls.
But you said, ‘We will not walk in it.’
Anyway, tell me, what logic is there in the fact that Jesus kept the Sabbath, the apostles kept the Sabbath, that the apostle Paul went to the synagogue on the Sabbath as was his custom, and that the early Christians kept the Sabbath until around 100 A.D., only for some to gradually decide to change it to Sunday and, eventually, through a council, officially change it from Saturday to Sunday? It wasn't God, it wasn't Jesus Christ, it wasn't the apostles or Paul; it was a council. In the Bible, things are clear-God is not a God of confusion. 'He does nothing without revealing it to His servants the prophets.
This is how we know that we love the children of God: by loving God and carrying out his commands. 3 In fact, this is love for God: to keep his commands. And his commands are not burdensome. 1 John 5: 2-3
It's not only about one day, it's a symbol, it's the sign of God, his sealing, his perfect plan concluded. It is not just about the day, is HIS day because he take that day as a symbol for all the eternity, like the " cherry on the cake" the way that God chose to be, and he decided this even before the creation, like all the things, God's plans are perfectly thought out in detail even before they are made, transcending our traditions or understandings.
How we can still keep changing God words, trying to be God in the place of God?
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. Rev. 14:12
God bless you all my brothers, love you ❤
@@vesky_sv7 if you now apply the same logic to the issue of circumcision, you’ll have an answer. And how was that issue resolved? Through a council.
@@TheCatholicBrothers Hi. We are taking of different things here:
The change of circumcision to a non-mandatory practice for Gentile Christians was part of a transition from ceremonial shadows to the reality in Christ, but there is no equivalent for the Sabbath in the Scriptures.
The Sabbath was instituted at creation, reaffirmed before and in the Ten Commandments, and kept by Jesus, the apostles, and the early Christians. There is no biblical basis to assert that God or Christ authorized a change from Sabbath to Sunday. Any such change was introduced by human traditions, not by divine command.
Jesus warned in Mark 7:7-9 that it is dangerous to “set aside the commandment of God to follow the traditions of men.”
Circumcision was instituted as a sign of the covenant between God and Abraham and was part of a ceremonial covenant that pointed to Christ. However, these laws were symbolic, is not moral law or a commandment.
However, even if you want to see that it's was abolish by a council, that was abolish by the apostles of Jesus inspired by the holy spirit. And you can finde this in the Bible so, at least you have an evidence of that, but not for the change of the Sabbath.
Also, Iarael had a system of sacrifices and festivals, an image of what was to come, which symbolized Christ, his sacrifice and resurrection. Christ was the perfect fulfillment of it. The sacrificial system reached its culmination and Jesus, as we are told in Hebrews, is high priest in the heavenly sanctuary.
Regards
What about Jewish Christians? I notice Catholics who are not Jewish forget about Jewish Christians
Shouldn’t be any issues for Jewish Christians (that term definitely needs to be defined, btw) as the Sabbath would continue to be a day of rest and Sunday the day of the Eucharistic sacrifice.
Hi, great video, just wondering if in regards to the comment that the Sabbath is still a day of rest and Sunday a time for Eucharist, is Sabbath as a day of rest something all should do in your opinion, or just if one is a Christian of Jewish heritage?
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The Christian Worship was the Breaking of Bread (Eucharist) which was for the 1st time celebrated by JESUS CHRIST on Sunday late afternoon (almost evening) at Emmaus (See Luke 24:1-30).
It’s not a commandment from God to only worship on one day and say this is the day god said we should worship on …
Fellowship is advised in the Bible … but it didn’t say meet on Sunday or and Saturday and fellowship…
Yess the sabbath is a holy day and Saturday is the sabbath … the question should be how then can we keep Gods entire law because everyone on them is equally important… inclusive the sabbath Matthew 5 :::::: Christ spoke of how he didn’t come to do away with any law and even if we like it or not in in heaven we shall be keeping the sabbath
The thing is what exactly are we to do and not do it … we can go back on forth over this topic fact is his word will still stand and we just have to obey if really we love him … how are we to keep the sabbath day holy irrespective of the fact that some go to church on Friday Sunday Saturday Monday whatever
The Sabbath (Day Seven) is Sovereign YAHUEH's day. Sunday (Day One) is the Lord's (Baal's) day. The Sabbath is a sign (Exo 31:13; 31:17).
The day starts at daybreak. Refer to Genesis chapter one. The sun goes down, the sun comes up - a day.
Sovereign YAHUEH (Rev 14:1; Eze 39:7; Acts 2:21) is for followers of Messiah YAHUSHA (YAHU saves). The Lord God (Baal Gad) is for followers of Christ Jesus (EA Zeus).
Sabbath observance is for followers of Messiah YAHUSHA (YAHU saves). Sunday worship is for followers of Christ Jesus (EA Zeus).
Festival of Booths (Indwelling - Lev 23:33-44) is for followers of Messiah YAHUSHA (YAHU saves). Christmas (Yule/Solstice/Nimrod) is for followers of Christ Jesus (EA Zeus).
Passover is for followers of Messiah YAHUSHA (YAHU saves). Easter is for followers of Christ Jesus (EA Zeus).
The stake is for followers of Messiah YAHUSHA (YAHU saves). The cross (Tammuz) is for followers of Christ Jesus (EA Zeus).
Middle-of-the-week impalement of Messiah YAHUSHA (Mat 20:40) is for followers of Messiah YAHUSHA (YAHU saves). Sixth day crucifixion is for followers of Christ Jesus (EA Zeus).
Sealing as a protection against the seven trumpets (Rev 7:1-8; 9:4) is for followers of Messiah YAHUSHA (YAHU saves). The lake of fire (Rev 19:20; 20:10; 20:14-15) is for followers of Christ Jesus (EA Zeus) and other rebels.
The first resurrection (Rev 20:5-6) is for followers of Messiah YAHUSHA (YAHU saves). The rapture is for followers of Christ Jesus (EA Zeus).
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Thanks for the comment, but to be honest, there are so many errors in there, both biblically, philologically, and historically, that I truly would not know where to start. ..
What religious persuasion are you?
@@TheCatholicBrothers Quite simple. Start at the top and work to the end providing scriptural references for the stand.
What religious persuasion was the Messiah YAHUSHA of Natsaret?
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@@followerofmessiahyahusha8769 go to our earlier episode on the Judaism(s) of Jesus. That should clear up some of your confusion.
@@TheCatholicBrothers The ignorance and confusion are on the uploader's end. Jesus (EA Zeus) worship is idol worship. There is no J, W, or V sound in Hebrew, Aramaic, or Greek, rendering Jehovah, Yahweh, and Jesus incorrect. What part does idolatry, idolaters, liars, and deceivers have in Sovereign YAHUEH's righteous realm (Rev 22:15)?
Judaism, like Christianity, is a religion. Religion is the work of the Whore of Babel (Rev 17:6). Catholicism is the mother (Rev 17:5), sects are its offspring. Judaism starts the day at sundown instead of at sunup as ordained by the Word. (The world starts the day in the middle of the night). Judaism starts the year in the fall instead of in the spring season of renewal as ordained by the Word. (The world stats the year in the cold season of death). According to Judaism, the Messiah is yet to come and Messiah YAHUSHA of Natsaret, the offspring of a whore, is boiling in hot excrement in a Hades. Followers of Judaism, like followers of any religion, are followers of unrighteousness.
Once ego, tradition, and fear are overcome, enlightenment, truth, and love enter.
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@@TheCatholicBrothers Those religiously persuaded are ensnared in the Whore's net (Rev 17:1-2). Come out of it (Rev 18:4).
Download a copy of the Scripture with an accompanying lexicon, start at Genesis and end at the last word in Revelation. One by one, from Hebrew to Aramaic to Greek, compare the words in the translation to the lexicon and note any discrepancies. Though this is a tedious exercise and takes a while, it is a worthwhile investment into Messiah - the Way, Truth, and Immortality.
During the exercise, note names starting with a J really have a Y sound. For example: H 3290 - Ya'aqob translated as Jacob; H 3124 - Yonah translated as Jonah; H 3383 - Yarden translated as Jordan. Jesus (EA Zeus) dies upon this truth. The two spies Mosheh sent out were Caleb of the tribe of Yehudah and Yahusha of the tribe of Ephrayim. The name of Yahusha of the tribe of Ephrayim is the same as Messiah YAHUSHA of Natsaret. To check, refer to Hebrews 4:8. G 2424 - older translations state Jesus, newer ones read Joshua. G 2424 is the Messiah's name. This is the secret and the key.
Once one realizes Jesus is the incorrect name, and only one name saves (Acts 4:12), the next logical step is knowing Messiah's true name. There is a buffet of names out there on offer to choose from. Only the Pure Spirit of Sovereign YAHUEH reveals Truth (Yahukhanan 15:26-27; 16:13). Messiah's name is a PIN/Password, so know both the Creator's name and the Messiah's name (Pro 30:4). Help: The name of the Highest is comprised of four vowel sounds - ee; ah; oo; eh. YAHUEH is a transliteration. Messiah's name translated means YAHU saves (Mat 1:21). Messiah literally and figuratively comes in the name of the Highest. HalleluYAH - translated is Praise you YAH. YAH and YAHU are short versions of YAHUEH. List for the YAH (ee - ah) sound at the end of many Scripture writers and servants of the Highest.
There is no coming to Sovereign YAHUEH except through Messiah YAHUSHA (Yahukhanan 14:6) and there is no coming to Messiah YAHUSHA of Natsaret unless Sovereign YAHUEH desires it so (Yahukhana 6:44; 6:65). Those attaining to the first resurrection were first drawn to Messiah by Abba YAH (Rom 8:15; Gal 4:16).
The high and excellent goal is attaining to the coming first resurrection (Rev 20:5-6). The sealed and protected against the seven trumpets (Rev 7:1-8; 9:4) - the martyr's for Sovereign YAHUEH and Messiah YAHUSHA of Natsaret - are the Body of Messiah YAHUSHA of Natsaret. Messiah YAHUSHA of Natsaret is Sovereign YAHUEH's Lamb and Heir.
Religion and tradition are idolatrous traps. Many are called, few (144,000 - Rev 7:1-8; 14:1-5) - the Remnant (Rev 12:17) - attain to the first resurrection.
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What does the Bible say is sin? "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law."
God commands us to worship on Sabbath (Friday night to Saturday night). Man tells us to worship on Sunday which is sin.
God also tells us that following the doctrine of men your worship is vain (Mark 7:7, Matthew 15:8-10). Those that love God,
are His saints and go to heaven all keep His commandments (Exodus 20:6, Revelation 14:12 & 22:14). Your welcome!
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Galatians 3 : 24 and 25
So the law was a guardian until CHRIST came that we might be justified through faith. Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.
Deuteronomy 5 : 12 through 15
The Sabbath was in remembrance of the LORD'S work in delivering Israel from slavery in Egypt.
We are no longer under the law which included the 10 commandments.
Gentiles were never under slavery in Egypt so the Sabbath doesn't apply to them. Christians are not supposed to keep it. CHRIST came, died and was resurrected for our sins.
@@TheCatholicBrothers Can you explain instead of using an emoji? Because I also agree with him.
@@alvarez321 Saturday night is Sunday by Hebrew reckoning. So, that many (not all) early Christians offered the Eucharist on Saturday night still places the Christian gathering on Sunday. Also, this is the more awkward thing about our friend’s comment above….. Jews didn’t worship exclusively on the Sabbath. Priests in the Temple weren’t sacrificing in the Temple only on the sabbath. The synagogal gathering on Saturday morning is a second Temple Jewish custom, nowhere mentioned in the Torah. So, there’s literally nothing in the old covenant that demands that worship be restricted to the Sabbath alone.
It comes down to a choice: do we follow our Creator's calendar and His appointed times or do we follow a pagan calendar and its associated man made traditions. Check scripture: palm Sunday, good Friday, and resurrection Sunday are all man made traditions, not the days that Jesus fulfilled.
Easter is a holiday created by man it's a tradition of man to pagan holiday that celebrates the goddess Ishtar. And there's two worship on Saturday
😂🤣 yea….. If you substitute SDA fairy tales for history.
@@TheCatholicBrothers sda? I don't know what that means. But I do know that we're to Worship the Lord on Saturday. And the Easter is the celebration of the Pagan goddess of fertility. Research it it is a fact I don't know what you meant but I have a feeling here disputing what I said.
@@paulettelamontagne7153 Where is the evidence for that Easter is a celebration of the goddess of fertility? The evidence for Easter is found in the inspired Gospels, except that it's not called Easter in the Bible. It's only called Easter in English and German. Almost all other languages use "Pascha" based on the Hebrew word for passover. Moreover, Easter probably comes from the Germanic word for east, not from a fertility goddess.
@@jimmu2008 where in the Bible does is describe Easter?
@@alvarez321 What part of "Easter" are you asking about?
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