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Just facts: After I took nationwide state-administered aptitude testing and IQ testing, my teacher pulled me aside after class and told me that 'I was a candidate for the Gifted & Talented Program going into 7th grade, but I wouldn't get in IF I DIDN'T do my homework.' Long story short, I wasn't interested in school - just competitive gymnastics at that time. There had to have been a deeper reason for my lack of interest in getting an education at that age. Most kids who are effortlessly good students tend to be inherently motivated. If the parents are attentive and caring, then other factors MAY be involved in the shaping their future and their job performance/opportunities.
The title is incorrect in the sense that significant improvement on a specific test of IQ, or, for instance, on specific college entrance exams, can be obtained through training.
Enjoyed Dr. Peterson's clips for a while now. I would guess that many a politician frowns on these points of views, except in times of war, quite a lot. Maybe it is because many countries are religious in one way or another. Meaning charities and other, similar, sorts of official behaviors. IQ seems to be an absolute, according to Peterson and other sorts. Politicians make their way as politicians by saying all things are possible, how does that happen, exactly? Perhaps watching the political claims on the evening news will give some hints? Which brings up the common enough notions of 'forgiveness,' and 'absolution,' perhaps.
My IQ was measured in the late 90s. It was 114. I'm not particularly gifted in maths either, but excelled in other areas, though I do remember one day in maths class where the teacher would plug in a variable into a particular equation, and I spat out the answers as fast as he input numbers. I don't know how I did it either. PS im a gardener. Education is a debt trap.
I guess the interesting question about the claim regarding differentiation at the upper end is, where does the upper end start? Peterson notes that he's not particularly good mathematically. Even if that's true, he's obviously very Adept both verbally and logically; logical and mathematical abilities are often collapsed, but his self-assessment suggests that there are important differences. I certainly know that, while I'm strong verbally and decent mathematically, I'm not very good spatially. I think the reality that there are different sorts of skills seems very clear, and I wonder if it's so obvious that the differentiation is apparent only at the upper ends. I wonder if the issue is that we're just not good at measuring differences in these areas farther down the scale. It's also complicated to talk about any of this as biological. After all, biological and hereditary aren't the same thing. Instead, biology and environment interact in complex ways. When a geneticist and a developmental psychologist I know team taught a course on nature and nurture some years ago, they read the relevant literature as suggesting that the environmental and hereditary contributions estimated at between 40 and 60 percent.
I took the WISC-R in third grade, scoring three standard deviations above the mean on the verbal portion and only a fifth of a standard deviation above the mean on the performance portion. Maybe the test was poorly administered, or maybe I'm really an outlier. And maybe I would have performed differently later in life. But this result is always made me skeptical of the idea that we're talking about a unitary quantity.
By misusing his license as a psychologist on social media ... had Jordan at first said that he was a non-believer ... today on social media venues ... his name would be unknown. He was smart enough to know that if he claimed to be a Christian ... and that if he did not mention that word "Catholic" ... countless Christian Evangelicals would support his podcasts "all the way to stardom and to him being a multi-millionaire." You just have to tell people what they want to hear ... and they will think you have a very high IQ. Example: When I was still under the spell of religion ... I was told by those who agreed with me ... that I was a very "deep thinker." Yet the moment I left all religion behind ... I was informed that I was a very "shallow" thinker.
@@junevandermark952 There is a difference between “Religion” and relationship. Many have left organized religion as they see hypocrisy. In the people involved. Mankind is deeply flawed and a relationship with the God of creation has nothing to do with flawed humanity. He leads us in the right direction if we look to Him and ask for forgiveness through His provision for us in Christ.
Good book recommended by John Vervaeke - What Intelligence Tests Miss by Keith E Stanovich. It is very limited and he says 50% is inherited, 50% environment. But it’s a very limited test and doesn’t cover wisdom and many other things.
Wisdom is spiritual in nature intelligence is just how complicated of abstractions can your mind grasp and how quickly. Wisdom is the driver behind the car. IQ is horsepower. It’s also complicated because you can be really smart and have a disordered and deluded mind. So someone with 40 less IQ points could be much more accurate and clear in their thinking.
Genetics aren't that simple. Also, injury can leave a smart person dumb and foolishness can make a smart person look dumb. Perhaps their parents were wounded or unwise. My mother and father were both bright but lived like idiots due to physiological and psychological injuries they failed to heal.
@@BoreasCastel i suspect this plays a larger part than people realize maybe a lot of people who were supposed to be smart got unlucky and had abusive / inadequate upbringings...
@@therearenoshortcuts9868 It goes both ways. In my case trauma boosted my intelligence until stress and near starvation ruined my mind, and in other cases people are permanently dumbed-down from the start. There are schools in Guatemala where 50% of the boys are stunted. A life sentence of reduced intelligence, a suppressed immune system, and other ailments. (So in invested in a junior miner in Guatemala to help create hundreds of jobs for those poor parents to help feed their children in a sustainable way, and their government and electorate are too dumb and corrupt to let the mine go forward.)
Trauma can result in hyper-vigilance and nearly perfect memory which go a long way to increasing measured intelligence. So no. IQ is not entirely biologically determined.
@@thecrow4597 The photographic memory of MPD sufferers who were molested and then used by MK Ultra. Now disappear like every other coward on RUclips and delete your comment on the way out. Or deny facts. I'll take either. Bye.
people regress to the mean of their extended family smart grandparents who got unlucky and had a dumb kid, may still have a smart grandkid from the same dumb kid
Firstly, it's statistics. Variations are expected, especially at the small scale, both in the test and in the genetics. Secondly, there are many reasons parents might pass on genes which could produce offspring more intelligent than them, especially in different conditions. Your parents genes don't really care if they were malnourished as children, but their brains sure do. Thirdly, how confident are you that your dad is your father? It's one of the more uncomfortable reasons for why offspring appear with traits significantly different from both parents.
What ‘success’ are you chasing. I am similar, but often I get bored with things most people would label as success. I just constantly challenge in different ways, but that doesn’t mean money is the sole goal to attain happiness.
Money, carreer, marriage. The usual things. I'm not broke or homeless but considering Einstein measured at 160 I should be doing much better....😂@@Robert-fx3ng
Anecdotal evidence doesn't count. He clearly says that it is the best predictor among all the other factors repeatedly. Wonder if you are having a bad period, because a person of 158 IQ in SD 15 would not make such a ludicrous point.
Not quite that high here but still up there. For me, I see too much of the world like being the only adult in the room when it comes to understanding details and nuances behind basic subject matter. Some days it exhausting having to dumb down on everything just to have conversations to find some bit of information I don't have yet.
The studies show Asians and Jews are the races with the higher IQs. However, I expect you are more interested in insults, mocking, and bullying than facts.
Is IQ an accurate rating of an individual's intelligence?9
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IQ potential may be determined biologically but environment can limit its development or not
5:12 best advertisement I have ever heard for getting in shape as a 'mature adult' get your second wind - keep your wit's about you.
Mars - Here I come. On with the show. Keep in shape! What? Round is a shape.
Just facts: After I took nationwide state-administered aptitude testing and IQ testing, my teacher pulled me aside after class and told me that 'I was a candidate for the Gifted & Talented Program going into 7th grade, but I wouldn't get in IF I DIDN'T do my homework.' Long story short, I wasn't interested in school - just competitive gymnastics at that time.
There had to have been a deeper reason for my lack of interest in getting an education at that age. Most kids who are effortlessly good students tend to be inherently motivated. If the parents are attentive and caring, then other factors MAY be involved in the shaping their future and their job performance/opportunities.
The title is incorrect in the sense that significant improvement on a specific test of IQ, or, for instance, on specific college entrance exams, can be obtained through training.
Enjoyed Dr. Peterson's clips for a while now. I would guess that many a politician frowns on these points of views, except in times of war, quite a lot. Maybe it is because many countries are religious in one way or another. Meaning charities and other, similar, sorts of official behaviors. IQ seems to be an absolute, according to Peterson and other sorts. Politicians make their way as politicians by saying all things are possible, how does that happen, exactly? Perhaps watching the political claims on the evening news will give some hints? Which brings up the common enough notions of 'forgiveness,' and 'absolution,' perhaps.
My IQ was measured in the late 90s. It was 114. I'm not particularly gifted in maths either, but excelled in other areas, though I do remember one day in maths class where the teacher would plug in a variable into a particular equation, and I spat out the answers as fast as he input numbers. I don't know how I did it either.
PS im a gardener. Education is a debt trap.
If your jaw falls off while you are sleeping you know you are in trouble
I guess the interesting question about the claim regarding differentiation at the upper end is, where does the upper end start? Peterson notes that he's not particularly good mathematically. Even if that's true, he's obviously very Adept both verbally and logically; logical and mathematical abilities are often collapsed, but his self-assessment suggests that there are important differences. I certainly know that, while I'm strong verbally and decent mathematically, I'm not very good spatially. I think the reality that there are different sorts of skills seems very clear, and I wonder if it's so obvious that the differentiation is apparent only at the upper ends. I wonder if the issue is that we're just not good at measuring differences in these areas farther down the scale. It's also complicated to talk about any of this as biological. After all, biological and hereditary aren't the same thing. Instead, biology and environment interact in complex ways. When a geneticist and a developmental psychologist I know team taught a course on nature and nurture some years ago, they read the relevant literature as suggesting that the environmental and hereditary contributions estimated at between 40 and 60 percent.
I took the WISC-R in third grade, scoring three standard deviations above the mean on the verbal portion and only a fifth of a standard deviation above the mean on the performance portion. Maybe the test was poorly administered, or maybe I'm really an outlier. And maybe I would have performed differently later in life. But this result is always made me skeptical of the idea that we're talking about a unitary quantity.
By misusing his license as a psychologist on social media ... had Jordan at first said that he was a non-believer ... today on social media venues ... his name would be unknown.
He was smart enough to know that if he claimed to be a Christian ... and that if he did not mention that word "Catholic" ... countless Christian Evangelicals would support his podcasts "all the way to stardom and to him being a multi-millionaire."
You just have to tell people what they want to hear ... and they will think you have a very high IQ.
Example: When I was still under the spell of religion ... I was told by those who agreed with me ... that I was a very "deep thinker." Yet the moment I left all religion behind ... I was informed that I was a very "shallow" thinker.
@@junevandermark952 There is a difference between “Religion” and relationship. Many have left organized religion as they see hypocrisy. In the people involved. Mankind is deeply flawed and a relationship with the God of creation has nothing to do with flawed humanity. He leads us in the right direction if we look to Him and ask for forgiveness through His provision for us in Christ.
The gains are very slight and the output is extensive
Good book recommended by John Vervaeke - What Intelligence Tests Miss by Keith E Stanovich. It is very limited and he says 50% is inherited, 50% environment. But it’s a very limited test and doesn’t cover wisdom and many other things.
Wisdom is spiritual in nature intelligence is just how complicated of abstractions can your mind grasp and how quickly. Wisdom is the driver behind the car. IQ is horsepower. It’s also complicated because you can be really smart and have a disordered and deluded mind. So someone with 40 less IQ points could be much more accurate and clear in their thinking.
Don’t let DEI do to the USA what it did to the Ivy League.
I met people who have real stupid parents, but become high IQ. How come?
Because the mailman wasn't also dumb.
Genetics aren't that simple. Also, injury can leave a smart person dumb and foolishness can make a smart person look dumb. Perhaps their parents were wounded or unwise. My mother and father were both bright but lived like idiots due to physiological and psychological injuries they failed to heal.
@@BoreasCastel
i suspect this plays a larger part than people realize
maybe a lot of people who were supposed to be smart got unlucky and had abusive / inadequate upbringings...
@@therearenoshortcuts9868 It goes both ways. In my case trauma boosted my intelligence until stress and near starvation ruined my mind, and in other cases people are permanently dumbed-down from the start. There are schools in Guatemala where 50% of the boys are stunted. A life sentence of reduced intelligence, a suppressed immune system, and other ailments. (So in invested in a junior miner in Guatemala to help create hundreds of jobs for those poor parents to help feed their children in a sustainable way, and their government and electorate are too dumb and corrupt to let the mine go forward.)
Because genes come from all over your family tree. The same way nba basketball players often have relatively normal sized parents
Trauma can result in hyper-vigilance and nearly perfect memory which go a long way to increasing measured intelligence. So no. IQ is not entirely biologically determined.
Give one example of trauma raising someone IQ by more than 5-10 points
@@thecrow4597 The photographic memory of MPD sufferers who were molested and then used by MK Ultra. Now disappear like every other coward on RUclips and delete your comment on the way out. Or deny facts. I'll take either. Bye.
Everything comes down to luck.
Heck anyone with half a brain knows this.
So why do i har a higher iq than both my high iq parents? What determines the linenin IQ where you are higher or lower?
He is stating a statistical tendency.
people regress to the mean of their extended family
smart grandparents who got unlucky and had a dumb kid, may still have a smart grandkid from the same dumb kid
Firstly, it's statistics. Variations are expected, especially at the small scale, both in the test and in the genetics.
Secondly, there are many reasons parents might pass on genes which could produce offspring more intelligent than them, especially in different conditions. Your parents genes don't really care if they were malnourished as children, but their brains sure do.
Thirdly, how confident are you that your dad is your father? It's one of the more uncomfortable reasons for why offspring appear with traits significantly different from both parents.
Because they wanted to build your self esteem.
I have a 158 IQ.
Post University "off the scale" by Canadian standards.
Never helped me with anything concerning success in life.
What ‘success’ are you chasing. I am similar, but often I get bored with things most people would label as success. I just constantly challenge in different ways, but that doesn’t mean money is the sole goal to attain happiness.
Money, carreer, marriage. The usual things.
I'm not broke or homeless but considering Einstein measured at 160 I should be doing much better....😂@@Robert-fx3ng
Anecdotal evidence doesn't count. He clearly says that it is the best predictor among all the other factors repeatedly. Wonder if you are having a bad period, because a person of 158 IQ in SD 15 would not make such a ludicrous point.
How would you know? You can have a high IQ and be self-destructive.
Not quite that high here but still up there. For me, I see too much of the world like being the only adult in the room when it comes to understanding details and nuances behind basic subject matter. Some days it exhausting having to dumb down on everything just to have conversations to find some bit of information I don't have yet.
Fact
I know poor, higher IQ ignorant people, and wealthy, lower IQ clever people.
There are always outliers…
That's Not a sentence dude
I agree with you the important divide in useful IQ is a moral one.
"Anecdotal truths"
mental models are the only difference
Know it all ! Even if things are NOT known !! Rubbish.....
Id like to see him do an interview in a hoody, jeans, and dirty trainers some day! 😂
IQ is subjective.
wrong- it's absolutely objective and it correlates with GDP
whyte supremacist much😂😂, jordan pokerson😂😂
The studies show Asians and Jews are the races with the higher IQs. However, I expect you are more interested in insults, mocking, and bullying than facts.
He's making Peterson's point. I'm guessing his parents are the sharpest tools in the shed either.
whyte supremacist much😂😂, jordan pokerson😂😂
whyte supremacist much😂😂, jordan pokerson😂😂
whyte supremacist much😂😂, jordan pokerson😂😂
whyte supremacist is wat you say, when you hear something you dont like, regardless of it being true or not