Ferguson and Godfrey: The Christian Sabbath (Seminar)
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- Опубликовано: 23 мар 2022
- How should Christians think of the Sabbath? Are God’s people required to keep the fourth commandment today? In this seminar, Drs. Sinclair Ferguson and W. Robert Godfrey speak on the significance of the Lord’s Day as the Christian Sabbath.
This seminar is from Upholding Christian Ethics, our 2022 National Conference: • Upholding Christian Et...
As of yesterday I started to keep the Sabbath and will continue to keep the Sabbath which is on the last day of the week, Saturday.
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@@ItalicusHammer What's funny?
God bless you! :) Saturday is the real Sabbath! :)
Colossians 2:16 Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath.
@@Epic_Curious Col 2:14-17 in context tells us this is speaking about an ordinance. 'Meat and drink' in context of the Sabbath indicate that its speaking about 'feast' Sabbath of the sanctuary service, which were all a shadow of the Messiah and were nailed to the cross. The 7th day Sabbath of YHVH however was not nailed to the cross. You can read the difference in Leviticus 23. Verses 37-38 provides the 'thus saith YHVH' answer to this confusion which Satan created for God's followers.
Shabbat shalom.
Sun set friday to sun set Saturday.7 day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God.
The creation genre says, Evening and morning came, day 1 or 2 or so. That doesn't say the day starts at evening. It's for shows that when evening came, and morning the it says DAY 1. The day literally day as it says so. Evening and morning just shows the division between the days.
Yes, I don't understand what he was saying about after the new covenant it became the first day of the week? It seemed like gaslighting?
Brother Godfrey was spot on when he spoke on the waning of the American church. We are falling away from God and His holy Word. Most people no longer know what the church service is for let alone knowing how to worship God properly.
Brothers, I have thoroughly enjoyed this time together and have been moved and prompted by the Spirit of our Lord to be more aware of what I am getting out of and putting into my time with the Lord.
Same here
21:07 what baffles me is how is it in reading the scriptures we missed the fact that the Lord gave Manna six days, but on the sixth day, you had to gather twice as much because on the Seventhday there would be none? He had not spoken the words from Mount Sinai yet. The reason? It’s because he had given us the sabbath before sin just like marriage in the garden of Eden.
How many times in the Scriptures do we have examples of what happened to God’s people when they forgot the Sabbath? Even Jesus and Matthew 24 warned may your flight be not in winter on Sabbath!
You are a village idiot who has fashioned a golden calf idol out of an ancient and abrogated Hebrew appointed feast that has never ever had any connection to you. You are a weird religious freak.
Pastor Godfrey got it right! Let’s keep the true Sabbath physically and daily Spiritually resting in Him. 💕🙏🙏🙏
Amen amen
What does resting in Jesus mean?
@@bestbest91 i✝️ It means, trusting in His Salvation, in His promises, in His Presence in your Life, In His Love.❤️🙏📖
@@olgaburgos7780 Is that from the Bible?
How did God say to keep it?
Amen
We have trivialized our devotion to the Lord
I missed dr. Ferguson, this great reformed theologian. It took him years to come back to ligonier ministries conferences. Thank you dr. Godfrey for your irreplaceable presence in those conferences. I learned so much listening to these two humble men of God.
How so? They don't speak the truth, just a bunch of manmade doctrines, all you're getting is wrong information.
Prove it
I am watching/listening to Ligonier and other reformed teaching 7 days a week. I'm not bragging, I just can't get enough. Thank goodness that we have digital technology in that I wore out my vhs tapes over 30 years ago.
My 7th day is Sunday. It is a day that I rest from my labor and devote exclusively to God (apart from emergencies). The other 6 days are also devoted to God. My entire existence is His. I will not squable about things that others convict me of. My only concern is the conviction of the Holy Spirit and my conscience.
Romans 14:5-6, Colossians 2:16-17
Cain saw fit to worship his way too.
I feel like pressing my way
I feel like pressing my way
I’m on my way to glory to be with Jesus
And I feel like pressing my way
Press sister press
Press on without the brother
Press on without another if needs be
Press on while none go with thee
Press on to glory
Press sister press
By faith I see the victory ahead🚴♀️
"There is a name I love to hear
I love to sing its worth
It sounds like music in my ear
The sweetest name on earth
Oh, how I love Jesus
Oh, how I love Jesus
Oh, how I love Jesus
Because He first loved me"
I love you Jesus ✝️
Why don't ya try his real name? Just sayin.
@@binderdundit228 His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace, 16 and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. 17 He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near.
@@binderdundit228 And she shall bring forth a son, and you shall call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
“but we preach Christ crucified, to the Jews a stumbling block and to the Greeks foolishness, 24 but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God”
1 Corinthians 1:23
@@binderdundit228 “Which of the two do you want me to release to you?” asked the governor.
“Barabbas,” they replied.
“What then should I do with Jesus who is called Christ?” Pilate asked.
They all answered, “Crucify Him!”
“Why?” asked Pilate. “What evil has He done?”
But they shouted all the louder, “Crucify Him!” Matthew 27:21-23
@@binderdundit228 when Pilate saw that he was accomplishing nothing, but that instead a riot was breaking out, he took water and washed his hands before the crowd. “I am innocent of this man’s blood,”he said. “You bear the responsibility.”
All the people answered, “His blood be on us and on our children!”
“So Pilate released Barabbas to them. But he had Jesus flogged, and handed Him over to be crucified.”
NEVER OVERWHELMED BY CONFUSIONS...CONTINUE DOING GOOD.
Yes, so wonderful. We have 6 days for work, and rest on the Lord's Day. Let a day be different, set apart, as we are set apart to Him.
The only Lord's day in scripture is the 7th day Sabbath, Saturday. No where in the NT, is Sunday called the Lord's day. I can show you two texts where the 7th day is called the Lord's day.
@@danielcristancho3524 Perfect!! God bless you brother.
God did not only 'rest' on the 7th day Sabbath, but he sanctified and made it holy. Altho we can and should pray, glorify the Lord and study His Word any other day of the week, only one day was set apart by God himself...the 7th day Sabbath. Sunday is not the 7th day. It is the first day of the week. Jesus did not change the Sabbath to sunday because he rose on sunday. I would challenge anyone to look in their Bible and find any verse that specifically says and/or commands us to observe Sunday instead of Saturday sabbath....its just not there my brothers and sisters.
Blessings to all...
But why after Christ went to heaven the disciples continued worshiping on the Sabbath day like Christ in the Synagogue????
Google and find out who and why the Sunday worship wash introduced in Christianity please !!!
I listened intently for an answer on the Sabbath question, and none came, as if the true question had been skirted, that's because there is NO biblical evidence of the Lord Jesus Christ or his disciples ever changing it from Saturday to the Sunday.
The 4th commandment is an eternal, everlasting covenant, for all time. It is in the centre (heart) of the decalog. And everything pivots around the Creator of the universe, if you break one of the commandments you might as wall have broken them all, because this is what the human heart is intent on doing all the time, that is going against God.
The Catholic Jesuits have already made a mockery of the original ten commandments eons ago. Since God has not changed the day from the 7th to the 1st this means that Man did, so who are we then to follow, God or the Jesuits. Since most of these Learned men before you are trained in Jesuit colleges it is only natural for them to tow the party line on the sabbath / Sunday and everything in between.
Therefore brethren do not be deceived by wolves in sheep's clothing dragging as many as possible into the deception of the Jesuit led Catholic church. Nearly all denominations are bowing down to the false god of ecumenism, and back to the mother church, Roman Catholicism, the religion of Dagon.
So then this is what I have always believed the Sabbath to be.
"The gracious Creator, after the six days of Creation, rested on the seventh day and instituted the Sabbath for all people as a memorial of Creation. The fourth commandment of God’s unchangeable law requires the observance of this seventh-day Sabbath as the day of rest, worship, and ministry in harmony with the teaching and practice of Jesus, the Lord of the Sabbath. The Sabbath is a day of delightful communion with God and one another. It is a symbol of our redemption in Christ, a sign of our sanctification, a token of our allegiance, and a foretaste of our eternal future in God’s kingdom. The Sabbath is God’s perpetual sign of His eternal covenant between Him and His people. Joyful observance of this holy time from evening to evening, sunset to sunset, is a celebration of God’s creative and redemptive acts. (Gen. 2:1-3; Exod. 20:8-11; 31:13-17; Lev. 23:32; Deut. 5:12-15; Isa. 56:5, 6; 58:13, 14; Ezek. 20:12, 20; Matt. 12:1-12; Mark 1:32; Luke 4:16; Heb. 4:1-11.)" Copied and pasted.
Amen,Jesus kept and fulfilled for all the Sabbath (Saturday) rest. men call Sunday the Sabbath but it is not! God didn’t change His Law , men did.
Check out my comment above regarding the Scriptural view of the Sabbath as regarding Christians, we are not bound by a Sabbath law.
Here is an interesting fact: The seventh creative "day", God's day of rest, is still in effect, it has not ended yet. The "days" of creation are not 24 hour days as many preachers think, each day covers thousands of years.
@@truthbetold8610 Morning and evening makes one day not thousands of years, sorry that youbelieve the non proovable theories of atheists .i can prove that a morning an an evening is a day and so do you
@@olgaburgos7780 The word "Day" is used in many ways other than meaning 24 hours. “God brought about a division between the light and the darkness. And God began calling the LIGHT Day, but the darkness he called Night.” (Ge 1:4, 5)
HERE THE WORD "DAY" REFERS TO THE DAYLIGHT HOURS in contrast with the nighttime. However, the record thereafter goes on to use the word “day” to refer to other units of time of varying length. In both the Hebrew and the Greek Scriptures, THE WORD "DAY" (Heb., yohm; Gr., he·meʹra) IS USED IN A LITERAL AND IN A FIGURATIVE OR EVEN SYMBOLIC SENSE.
This flexible use of the word “day” to express units of time of varying length is clearly evident in the Genesis account of creation. Therein is set forth a week of six creative days followed by a seventh day of rest. The week assigned for observance by the Jews under the Law covenant given them by God was a miniature copy of that creative week. (Ex 20:8-11)
In the Scriptural record the account of each of the six creative days concludes with the statement: “And there came to be evening and there came to be morning” a first, second, third, fourth, fifth, and sixth day. (Ge 1:5, 8, 13, 19, 23, 31) THE SEVENTH DAY, HOWEVER, DOES NOT HAVE THIS ENDING, INDICATING THAT THIS PERIOD, GOD'S "REST DAY", DID NOT END THEN, IT CONTINUED ON.
At Hebrews 4:1-10 the apostle PAUL INDICATED THAT GOD'S REST DAY WAS STILL CONTINUING IN HIS GENERATION, MORE THAN 4,000 YEARS AFTER THE SEVENTH-DAY REST PERIOD BEGAN. This makes it evident that each creative day, or work period, was at least thousands of years in length.
As A Religious Encyclopædia (Vol. I, p. 613) observes: “THE DAYS OF CREATION WERE CREATIVE DAYS, STAGES IN THE PROCESS, BUT NOT DAYS OF TWENTY-FOUR HOURS EACH. ”-Edited by P. Schaff, 1894.
@@truthbetold8610 - Those who are churched seem to constantly be intent on finding an excuse to not do GOD's commands. Amazing to me.
The term "the Lord's day" is used only once and it is by John, one of Jesus' disciples who observed the 7th day Sabbath. Interesting how people then assume he was referring to the 1st day of the week. Makes no sense
Did John worship on a Sabbath as an apostle? I don't think so. They went to the synagogues, including Jesus to teach because synagogues were common places where people gathered to study the laws and maybe add a little politics. And most of them who were in the synagogues were hypocrites and Pharisees who Jesus himself condemned. But why did John use the phrase The Lord's Day and not the Sabbath?
Is this panel speaking of the 7th day Sabbath Saturday or Sunday the first day? The true Sabbath is Saturday, the 7th day.
Please watch "About the Fourth Commandment" by Doug Bachelor
Question: what evidence do you have that “the Lord‘s day, “spoken of by John in revelation, is referring to the first day of the week? John was a Jew, a commandment keeper, since sin is the transgression of the law. It only stands to reason that John was speaking of the Sabbath Day, the seventh day. I’m sure you know this but I’ll say it anyways, there is no biblical evidence for the changing of that day from The seventh to the first day of the week. God‘s law is eternal. It’s baffling to me that while simultaneously saying that it was ordained at creation we can then go on to say that it was changed, something for which there is no biblical evidence whatsoever. Stop adding your own meanings to the clear word of God. The definition of the Lords Day is clear. The definition of the new covenant is clear, (Jeremiah 31:31 “Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I will make a NEW COVENANT with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah- 32 “not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them,* says the LORD. 33 “But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the LORD: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.”)
The Bible is very clear friends. The 7th Day is the Sabbath, and no man has the authority to change God’s Law! BUT! The Bible does say that a power would rise up in the stream of time that would “think to change times and laws..” (Daniel 7:25) I’d like to submit to you that this happened when the Roman Papacy at the council of Laodicea in 364 AD changed the Sabbath to Sunday. Just Google it!
All of these theological gymnastics to try and make the Bible say what it doesn’t is not of God!
This is why I dont attend church anymore because preachers decide which day is to be kept as Sabbath instead of obying Gods law which stated on which day the Sabbath is to be kept. Jesus was a Jew and he perfectly kept every commandment...an He said not a jot or title of the commandments will be taken away....what a shame and they called themself preachers.
@@sariepieterse6768It is saddening that so many who claim to follow Christ and the teachings of His Word are either unaware or dismissive of the day that He set aside at the dawn of history and commanded us in tablets of stone to keep. But I would like to encourage you not to give up; God has His genuine believers in every denomination, but all around the world there are Christian believers who strive to live by Sola Scriptura and keep the seventh-day Sabbath as commanded in God’s moral law. I happen to keep the seventh-day Sabbath myself, along with a loving Christian community that is committed to keeping “the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus” (Rev. 14:12, NKJV). Seek, and you shall find… Let me know if you would like more information.
You've missed the whole point of the Cross.
@@kimmykimko You have missed the whole point of this video. It is about Sabbath.
Thank you Gentlemen!! Thank you for such sincere study!!
I'm not doubting their sincerity, however, they are denying the true biblical Sabbath.
On the contrary, I think they explained well what true biblical sabbath is.
Please Watch "Who Changed the Sabbath" by Pastor CD Brooks
His stuff and a TON of other teachings (including me) are in my Sabbath playlist.
I just love these men because they love God! What a blessing they are to the Church.
Either we do what our Creator tells us, or what the Beast says. You choose
@@williamnordeste1169 amen
these men are confused and clearly aren't following God's Truth.
Yeah.. the wrong church. Its a harsh statement but there are those who keep God commands and those who dont. Its every bodies responsibility , homework and study to find what they are.
@@lightoftheworld5455 we stated, friend. sadly, most ignore Exodus 20:8-11 and just don't see the 7th day Sabbath as It should be.
people pretend the 1st day is His day - but it's a day too late.
We’re questioning the 7th day Sabbath as if the 7th day went somewhere. The 7th was and is set apart (it is holy), it is blessed and we are commanded to rest. Does the 7th day no longer exist? Did God remove the blessing of the 7th day explicitly pronounced?Were we told not to rest on the 7th day Sabbath?
The seventh day still remains. There are many who remember it today. It is a blessing to walk in it. 👍
Brilliant. So true....
20:48 is the 4th commandment binding on the church? I would like to have heard an answer to that question biblically
The Sabbath command is binding on Mankind!
Mark 2:27
My Dear Friends: Brothers, Sisters. I humbly call on you to consider this: If the Sabbath commemorates the creation and points to who is the Creator why would the day change. Consider this comparison: In the creation story the Creator "finished/completes/ended" His work of creation on the sixth day (Friday) rested on the seventh (Sabbath/Saturday [see, Genesis 2:2]); on the other hand, Christ (The Creator and Redeemer) "finished/completed/ended" His work of Redemption/Recreation the sixth day and rested on the seventh in the tomb and rose on the first day to continue doing His Father's will. Noticed that both of these great work, by the same Being/Person (Christ), resulted in resting on the seventh day Sabbath. In this, the Sabbath has taken on a more profound meaning: in Christ, the Prophet like unto Moses [i.e, The Law Giver, compare Deuteronomy 18:15-19; Acts 7:37 and Genesis 49:10], has been revealed the fullness of all things that was kept secret from the foundation of the earth, that is, God is Creator and Redeemer, and besides Him there is no salvation.
Moreover, there is only one day, based on Scriptural evidence that can be referred to as "the Lord's day:" the seventh day Sabbath. WHY? Because all these verses say so: Exodus 20: 8-11; Isaiah 58:13; Ezekiel 20:12&13; Matthew 12:8; Mark 2:28; and therr is not one linking the Lord's day to Sunday but can only be found in the Justinian Decree of 321 A.D by Emperor Constantine and the Catholic catechism in later years. Please I beg you.... Do the research for yourself. God bless you greatly.
Excellent commentary!
How do you know what precisely Christ was doing on the sabbath day in the tomb? Scripturally show me precisely we’re it say “Jesus Rested on the seventh day in the tomb? The argument that your not really a Christ follower if you worship on Sunday is Legalism! I’ve been to Israel and have seen where they program the elevators to stop at every floor, because pushing a button is determined not resting on Sabbath day! The myopic focus on when to Sabbath, takes the focus off the Lamb who of God who takes away the sins of the world, when we trust in him to forgive our sin debt.
@@falconrealtyteam5457 According to the Bible Jesus was asleep on the Sabbath. Even in death He obeyed His Father.
@@davidmoorman7062 scripture please? It’s not Jesus & baptism or Jesus and keeping the Sabbath on Saturday it’s Christ alone. Don’t according to the Bible me I’m a scripture person show me scripture?
@@brentkathybesosa4658 I'll show you two! Exodus 20:8 and Revelation 14:12. Your job, Mr. Phelps see to discover the connection between those two verses.
Also, I have to ask, is Jesus Christ your Lord? Mark 2:27-28. Should we not strive to walk as He walked? 1 John 2:6
No one's forcing you or anyone else to worship on the Sabbath. Just like everything regarding our Father in Heaven it's a choice. If I forced anyone to observe the 7th day Sabbath I'd be no better than the Roman Catholic's that slaughtered millions during the dark ages and the inquisition. You gotta remember it's choice that rules the day. One cannot honestly say the Sabbath was changed to SUNday without being totally dishonest with known history.
Unfortunately, many Christians are not aware that after about 360 AD, when Catholicism had gained a foothold of authority, Saturday observance of Sabbath began to become supplanted, although much of the early eastern churches still refused to stop keeping the Sabbath. The abolition of the Sabbath began when Sunday began being celebrated as a day of resurrection. It became known as "the Lords Day". However, "The Lords day" phrase was used 300 years before that, when John wrote the book of Revelation. He, at that time, was referring to the true Sabbath. 'The Lords day' belongs to Christ, as it is referred to as such by Christ Himself (The Son of Man is "Lord of the Sabbath") and in the OT -, e.g., _“If because of the sabbath, you turn your foot From doing your own pleasure on _*_My holy day,_*_ And call the sabbath a delight, _*_the holy day of the LORD honorable,_*_ And shall honor it, desisting from your own ways, From seeking your own pleasure, And speaking your own word, Then you will take delight in the LORD, And I will make you ride on the heights of the earth; And I will feed you with the heritage of Jacob your father, For the mouth of the LORD has spoken.”_ (Isa 58:13-14, NASB 77) - As you can see from the text in Isaiah, God calls the Sabbath HIS holy day. Therefore, John would never surmise or assume it could be any other day. Friday Sundown, to Saturday Sundown is Gods Holy Day - and has been from the day HE Himself first kept it on the 7th day if creation. Immediately after he had "rested", he made a declaration that he "Blessed it" and He "Hallowed it" (Set apart for special use). Note that The Lords Holy Day was in place before the fall of Adam and Eve. This means it was never a "shadow", like the feasts, or other Sabbath days, which were feast days. The Holy Sabbath of God is still Holy, and blessed. That has never changed.
Thus the heavens and the earth were completed, and all their hosts. And by the seventh day God completed His work which He had done; and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. *_Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made._* (Gen 2:1-3, NASB 77)
All commandments are fulfilled in Christ, but we do not discard them, Jesus magnified them all for us to imitate. The Lords Day is not Sunday but the day of His coming and His worship day.The Lord never changed His mind on what He ordered for His creation. We have the spiritual Sabbath rest in Jesus every day and that is the sabbath of salvation but the weekly Sabbath, Saturday, is to be the remembering of His love, creation and salvation and to worship in gratitude for all His blessing and grace. This is a great video that should make pastors re-establish the church going on Saturdays to keep the obedience to God’s fourth blessed commandment as we should also keep the other nine. This discussion was and is necessary in all the Sunday keeping churches that need to demonstrate what they usually teach to their congregations to obey God’s commandments for sanctification and the glory of our God.
The ordinances are fulfilled and finished, not the commandments. The rest I mostly agree with though. Although we know it won't happen, would it not be amazing to see churches start changing their service to the truth Sabbath!
Wonderful discussion. Thank you for this, brothers!
Yes, just wonderfull ! totally skirted the Sabbath question.
Its foolishness...snakes in a suit.
The moral law is immutable .( The ten commandments) The ceremonial Sabbaths specific is nail to the cross. Sunday worship was originated from SUN worship which is Baal worship.The sun god Tammaz .
Col ch2 list 5 things we are to STILL be keeping.
Incorrect! The seven annual Sabbaths picture the entire plan of God for mankind. The true Church of God keeps them today along with the weekly Sabbath and the entire earth will be keeping them after Christ’s return (Isaiah 66:22-23).
The keeping of the Sabbath Day commandment was NEVER done away with,,,the 7 th day,,,stop with the Sunday,,Sun worship day..keep the commandment.
Thank you!
26:41 I agree with this Pastor on the evening service. Most churches are dead when it comes to their prayer meetings or evening services, because we are too caught up in life with things we find more important if we understood what took place at the prayer meeting all of us would do whatever we could to get there, because there is more treasure there than we will ever find on this earth.
6:42 Can someone explain how the Lord’s Day can be identified as Sunday based on an exegetical reading of Revelation 1:10? I’d like to understand, but for some reason, I’m not seeing it…
The proper grammatical order of Rev 1:10 when translated into English is "The Day of the Lord", not the Lords Day. John was in the distant future on the prophetic "day of the Lord" seeing the judgements come upon the earth. It has not one thing to do with the day of the week. It was just a weak attempt to create an anti-Sabbath verse by crooked translators with a Catholic bent mindset and belief system.
That which God made holy, will never make UNholy... The 7th Day Sabbath WAS made holy!!
Paganism combined with early Christianity (Popery) declared Sunday to be holy...not biblical!
I have no doubt these gentleman love the Lord, but their interpretation about what, when is the true Sabbath is not correct.
Whenever we find ppl saying "I think..." one will always be inclined to give these matters our own interpretation.
I totally agree with one thing they advise...study the Word fully and let's not "...lean to our own understanding".
No matter how anybody tries to justify it, the is no biblical justification for keeping Sunday. The Bible speaks of only one weekly day of rest, the Sabbath or Saturday. The chief difference between the biblical Sabbath and so called "Christian Sabbath" is that the former is commanded to be kept by God while the latter is man's made with no mentioning of it in the Scriptures.
YOU NAILED IT!!
Amen, and deviation from the explicit order of God is to dishonoring Jesus.
Amen!
Roman: Typical nonsense by Biblical Illiterates. Your hostility to keeping the Commandments of Christ is called Antinomianism. You have been affected by false teachers.
Roman you are absolutely right! Man wants to play God and want to split the Words of God unto the New and the Old Testament, but there in place in the New Testament where the Saturday Sabbath was changed by Jesus to Sunday. Jesus gave us the physical
Surely it's a love issue, to love the Lord, his people, and the assembly of the saints
What scriptures said about lawlessness
The Lord Jesus went to the Synagogue on Saturday mornings, evenings , and all times. He preached every where and every day but never changed Sunday to be called Sabbath and honor it as the commandment given Sabbath of His Father. All these preachers when they will face God will be asked by Him:” Why did you teach Sunday as My Sabbath? What will they answer? All their own assessments and ideas? Good luck!
Romans 14:5 leads me to believe that is NOT what the Lord is going to be question us about. What I do believe he will be searching, is our hearts; to see if we really loved Him, and our brothers and sisters here on earth. Having Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Goodness, Gentleness, Faithfulness, and Self Control.
What gets me, is that some people will be so faithful to the Fourth Commandment, but lack in kindness, or gentleness, or patience or self control… What makes us key in on certain commandments and lack in others? When the Bible speaks of commandments, it’s not just the 10.
@@Slickthequick93 So what commandments should we be faithful to rather than the Fourth one?
I don't think making a defence from Scripture is being unkind or unloving. An unbeliever might attempt to say this in their unregenerate state about believers urging them in love to accept the Gospel message. So why should believing Christians be so upset about fellow believers sharing truth that they have discovered by reading and studying the Scriptures? Yeshua ("Jesus" said He was Lord of the SABBATH (not "Sun"-day) and demonstrated by His example how to keep it properly (without additional man-made rules and doctrine), so was He being unkind and unloving by mentioning the 'S' word that upsets so many Gentile Christians in this modern era?! 🤯🤯🤯
@@scented-leafpelargonium3366 “For He has said somewhere concerning the seventh day: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”; and again in this passage, “They shall not enter My rest.” Therefore, since it remains for some to enter it, and those who formerly had good news preached to them failed to enter because of disobedience, He again fixes a certain day, “Today,” saying through David after so long a time just as has been said before, “Today if you hear His voice, Do not harden your hearts.” For if Joshua had given them rest, He would not have spoken of another day after that. So there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God. For the one who has entered His rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from His. Therefore let us be diligent to enter that rest, so that no one will fall, through following the same example of disobedience.”
Hebrews 4:4-11
The reason I posted the passage from Romans 14:4-6 in my first response is because this was the same thing that was going on back in the day. If you read that and are still convinced on telling people they need to follow the sabbath you’re arguing with God and not man. I would be careful with that…
There’s a book by Roy B Zuck Called Basic Bible Interpretation. It’s about the context of scriptures, the time periods, who it was written to and for and how it should be applied in our lives during modern times. You should check it out.
@@Slickthequick93 Hebrews 4--
Context...
Hebrews 3 the Israelites could not enter into that rest because they lacked faith. Hebrews 4:1 This is a warning that we have a promise of rest but we can come short of entering it as the children of Israel did. The Greek word for rest here is (katapausis) a putting to rest, Calming of the winds, a resting place.
Heb. 4:2 - 3 The gospel has been preached from the beginning. In types and now unto us by Jesus. But some lacked faith to believe the types.
Heb. 4:4 The 7th day was a memorial to remind us of this completed work, from the very beginning.
Heb 4:6-7 They didn't enter in but the promise still stands so there will be people who will enter in. As a nation the Jews had rejected that rest which we find in a Person. The gentiles were given an opportunity and many of them entered into that Rest that the many Jews rejected, but not all gentiles received it. Faith is paramount for receiving this rest.
Heb 4:8 The Door for entering that rest was still open in David's day, and praise the Lord It is still available for any by faith to enter in.
Heb 4:9 There remained therefore a rest (sabbatismos, not katapusis) The only time this Sabbatismos is used in Heb. 4. Interesting.
Look.. Hebrews contains multiple chiasms. I'll just show you one here in this Chapter.
A. Heb. 4:2 Gospel not combined with faith
B. Heb. 4:3 Do not rest in completed work
C. Heb. 4:4 God rests on the 7th Day
C'. Heb 4:9 God's people rest (sabbatismos) on the 7th day
B'. Heb 4:10 Rest in God's completed work (cease from their own)
A'. Heb. 4:11 Gospel combined with faith.
Let the Bible interpret itself and we get in a whole lot less trouble.
@@Slickthequick93 Romans 14:1 is the basis. We're not to welcome weaker ones to disputable matters. What God wrote with his own hand is not a matter of dispute, so Paul could not possibly be talking about God's law being optional.
Sabbath- I mean Saturday is the Lord’s day , Sunday is day of sun worship, introduced by Constantin the great , though him devil introduced counterfeit of Lord’s day Sunday and since than this deception is introduced to Christian church Whole world is now deceived believing that this baby of papacy/ devil is Lord’s day I mean Sunday, while true Lords day is Saturday and throughout eternity will be. Last battle before Lord’s 2 nd coming will be about sabbath/ Saturday vs devil’s Sunday also known as mark of the beast / papacy and apostate Protestant churches Be warned and do not be deceived by your so called great man
Gregory....Are you a Seventh Day Adventist?
@@carmensiekierke3579 Why would you assume that?
@@rainaproske709 Because this is exactly the language of the Seventh Day Adventists. Another person also posted a comment with this language.
How I would love a Sunday evening service at my church and have mentioned it in passing.
My pastor is a gifted preacher in our tiny reformed church of 17 people(3 families and 5 singles). He works full time during the week and has mentioned how little time he has to study and prepare sermons although I don’t see any deficiency on Sundays. Until we have enough people to support his family through giving, this seems like a pipe dream.
If there's 17 people at this church, there's nothing stopping you all from getting together with one another. You don't have to go to the physical church building. God's people are the Church. You can meet anywhere. You can encourage one another anywhere! Have lunch or dinner together. Visit one another. Get together and sing unto the Lord! Have an afternoon or early evening Bible study. Have a prayer meeting. There is many things you can do.
The seventh day Sabbath was made by GOD for the JEWS.
Christians do not have to obey the old testament laws, they have been nailed to the cross by JESUS CRIST.
@@johncoughtrey8383 The Sabbath in the first week of Creation that was meant to last forever doesn't have anything to do with the Cross. The 7 days of Creation occurred before sin.
@@GodsView1 🙏 that is my understanding
@@johncoughtrey8383 the 7th day Sabbath isn't jewish - there were no jews when God established It.
look at the other 9 Commands, are they too ok to ignore?
In my village there is morning service at 4.00am every day and there is afternoon service every day. However Jesus had meetings at different times. But unfortunately due to TV and Smart phone and Church without walls (TV church service) certain pepple are not attending real Church service. These virtual services has it's own benefit but at the sametime these moder day Church without walls ( on mads media service) cannot replace the real Church fellowship. I miss my Church at Montgomery wala Chak no 424JB Gojra, Pakistan as I am not residening in my village for more than 41 years. Therefore I think Christian Chuch should not be bound to have one or two services on Sunday. Rather the Church services should be every day and meet the spiritual needs of the people at different times.
Absolutely no issue w/worship everyday!
The 7th day Sabbath is still binding though.
Yes but the rest day is Sabbath
Old Testament Sabbath and the Lords Day are one and the same: the 7th day Sabbath (Saturday). The Sabbath it’s a sign of God’s authority and our redemption.
God is among the Jewish looking for those who believes in His Son Jesus, and He is among the Christians who keeps His commandments, those are His remnants, Jesus even gave it to us in the prayer He taught us, THY 'WILL' , BE DONE ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN. So which day do you think is the Lords day of Worship, in heaven, remember, Genesis 1, in the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
@@jamesneketia5991 amen people are waking up! It is hard though
My question is, how do we just take the 4th Commandment and just do away with it? If this is the case, why aren’t the other 9 able to be disregarded? This then leads to antinomianism. The 4th Commandment should not be lumped in as a ceremonial law. So this is appears to me as, being on the “horns of a dilemma” either real or a “false dilemma”?
Well said, and I much agree.
And what about honoring your parents? That's very diminished in the US.
@@blairwillis9199 I don’t think any commandments are being treated like Commandments in this country. As a matter of fact, our society promotes the opposite of every commandments
The 4th commandment has not been dealt away with. Jesus is our Sabbath. In him we rest and cease from our labour's.
We must observe the Lord's Day fully without judizing it.
Where does the Bible talk about the Lord's day as the first day of the week that shall be the day of worship?
I have not come across this wording "Christian Sabbath" that you refer to. Throughout the Scriptures I can only see the word Sabbath without a prefix or additional titling of the day, which each time it is referred to, even in the life of Yeshua and in His perfect example (for us) it is clear that it is the seventh day, (now renamed in honour of the god Saturn by the Gentiles - "Saturday").
I type "Yeshua" as I believe this is the Name that the Angel of the LORD gave Him, meaning "salvation" long before the Gentiles changed it into the transmogrified "Jesus" (and "Christ").
The sabbath is Friday sundown to Saturday sundown. When the world is partying it up, we should take this time to separate ourselves and be with God.
Amen. May God continue to bless you mightily, friend.
Yes
I worship YAHWEH on the LORD's DAY, His DAY...NOT yours or mine! On that Saturday, my Lord YAHSHUA was still in His GRAVE; it is impossible to envisage that the Apostles and the believers were BREAKING BREAD whilst YAHSHUA was NOT yet RISEN from His GRAVE! HalleluYAH🙏🙏🙏
@@mikesamuel9175 the seventh day is His day. Technically The Lord's Day is when Jesus returns. See revelation. Satan has fooled many by changing the day to Sunday and even mocking Him more by calling it the Lord's Day. (wrong lord worshipping there)
They are confusing Sabbath (7th day) and Sunday (1st day).
The Bible is clear in Exodus 20:8-11 what day the Sabbath is.
Even in Exodus 16 when He had them gather double the amount so on the 7th day they wouldn’t work. This was before the 10 commandments on Sinai. So many of the commandments were practiced long before they were written in Exodus 20
@@damon3431 ▸ The first recorded sabbath observance was after Israel’s exodus from Egypt, at the time God began to feed them with manna (Exodus 16:22-30). Interestingly, it is initially referred to in that paragraph as “a” sabbath, not “the” sabbath, suggesting it was not something previously known. That corresponds with the statement in the book of Nehemiah that God made His sabbath known at Mt. Sinai (9:13-14). No Bible passage ever depicts anyone keeping the sabbath prior to this time!
WHAT ABOUT THE CHRISTIAN SABBATH?
- Christians are to worship together, not on Saturday (the Sabbath), but on Sunday, the first day of the week. Acts 20:7, I Corinthians 16:2
- Sunday is never called "the Christian Sabbath" in the New Testament.
- Today, there is neither Jew nor Greek. Galatians 3:23-28
- There is a "rest" coming for the faithful Christian. Hebrews 4:1, 4-11
@@kac0404 is there a passage for honoring our father and mother prior to Sinai? An argument that something isn’t mentioned previously so we don’t have to observe it now doesn’t really stand if you expand it to other commands He gave. If that’s the case as Christians we shouldn’t have to follow anything in the OT and should just delete that from our Bibles because there was always a point where something hasn’t been mentioned. Did God establish it? Did Christ follow it? If those are both yes who are we to say we shouldn’t especially since He calls us to follow His example.
@@kac0404 there is no such thing as the Christian Sabbath. It’s just the Sabbath. There are for more instances of the disciples and Christ observing the Sabbath than instances where people worshipped on Sunday. I can worship on Wednesday that doesn’t make it THE Sabbath on the 7th day. We can praise on Sunday as well. Observing THE Sabbath doesn’t mean you can’t gather also on Sunday or any other day. Just can’t call it the Sabbath. If you do then are you keeping it holy as described in scripture?
Where did Paul teach the greeks to practice and keep the mosiac practice on 7th day
Very clearly God said the seventh day is the Sabbath, if you show me where in the Bible God said that He changed it to Sunday and the why He changed His commandment , I will start keeping His new day Sunday also.
Churches let’s bring the sabbath back to the true desires and obedience to God, Saturday services of worship to our Creator and Savior.🙏📖✝️🙏🙏🙏
The Lords Day is not only the Seventh day but also the Day of His second coming.
There is no meaning to keep Sunday. You foolish Galatians. ....You have heard the truth!
Wolves in sheep's clothing.
Amen
The commandment is about every day of the week
What are we doing the other six days
What you say doesn’t make sense, you mean that every day in the salvation. in Jesus is a Sabbath day , all seven days in Him are a Sabbath day rest, right?
@@olgaburgos7780 Amen every day in Him is a sabbath day rest.
@@jessyjonas4988 no. It is important to worship and praise Him every single day, yes. But Sabbath is sanctified from creation and set apart. No work to be done. No buying or selling. Etc. In Exodus the Commandment starts with Remember (the only one that begins this way. And it is because He knew it would be changed to Sunday and forgotten) and in Leviticus it begins with Keep. Remember to Keep the Sabbath holy. The seal of God. Sunday is the devil's day.
@@jessyjonas4988Yes, spiritually we rest in Him who took away our sentence and that gives us rest and peace every day but, the physical Sabbath rest that Is in genesis creation, the Sabbath that is in God’s commandments ,the day that Jesus kept and all the Jewish people were taught in the desert to keep, the day Jesus rest at His death in the tomb, that was never changed by Him ,is the Sabbath- Saturday rest that we should cherish and also obey ,honoring His Word.
@@jessyjonas4988 No
14:25 let me help you brother - “in A.D. 325, Pope Sylvester officially named Sunday "the Lord's Day," and in A.D. 338, Eusebius, the court bishop of Constantine, wrote, "All things whatsoever that it was the duty to do on the Sabbath (the seventh day of the week) we (Constantine, Eusebius, and other bishops) have transferred to the Lord's Day (the first day of the week) as more appropriately belonging to it."
Verse>> Matthew 5:17 KJV ( Think not that I am come to Destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to Fulfil.) II Peter 1:20 KJV Man can over Think ad nauseam
I'll tell you how the two days are different. The Seventh-day Sabbath comes from the Creator. Sunday worship comes from the pagan anti-christ.
Amen. God blesses you, friend.
@@Project144K Aah, God bless you as well my brother. Jesus is near.
@@presenttruthmessages Praise God in Heaven for the prayers. May He send Jesus soon to gather you and all those who have made a covenant with Him by sacrifice by rending their hearts and not their garments. God blesses you mightily, friend. :)
@@Project144K Jesus Is Near!
You don't pull punches Donald. I like that 😉
No where in the Bible does it say that the Lord's Day is Sunday...totally erroneous. The seventh day sabbathIS the Lord's Day! The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. You can argue incessantly about this issue, unfortunately people try to implement their own rationale to this commandment. God ordained from the beginning that we keep His commandments, not nine but all 10, IF we love Him. It's a matter of obedience and worship. Completely erroneous on this topic....
Does it have to say it? The practice in the NT was a Sunday - first day. They met Jews of Israel for worship on Saturday to reach out to them. All laws of the 9 commands are repeated in NT except Saturday Sabbath. The meaning of Sabbath is salvation in christ. The Sabbath of the OT was pointing to that...Hebrews 4. But if that's the day you sure is right God bless you. If you think I will go to hell as some do cause I worship on a Sunday I know that's totally wrong.
If you keep the Sabbath day holy ,how do you keep the other days
…to make the commandments of God to no effect, by teaching for doctrine the commandments of men.
It is impossible for you people to keep the other six days holy
There is no Christian Sabbath. Shabatt was an appointed feast for Israel. You are a judaizer dog barking at the church. Annoying and good for nothing
We need to test everything, but how. Well I remember in school we were told that fastest and easiest method was to start from the end. So let’s start at judgement day when , the pastor tells God but I casted demons,heal the sick in your name but God answer depart from me because I don’t know you. Why ? Well God said if we were to break one of his commandments it was like breaking all of them. He also said many were to be worshiping Him in vain. Why ? Simply because we are following mans tradition. God also prophecied that a church and government were to change Gods laws and seasons, Daniel 7:25 God established the day to begin and end at sundown while man has change it to midnight. God established the beginning of the new year during beginning of spring, while man changed it to the fall. I grew up in the apostolic faith and always heard the preachers talk about the rapture that After God picks up the church that the gospel was no longer going to be preached but then why in revelation the elders asked Gods who are this great multitude of saints coming out of the great tribulation. Well they are all these Christians today that will be corrected to understand that we were lied to that we are not supposed to keeping the laws because it was done away and now live understand grace .
Im not sure that observance of sabbath is mandatory but be honest where the bible says that first day is Lords day? Im not talking about modyfied modern bibles.
Sunday the mark of the beast................VS............. Sabbath the mark for God people.. Ezekiel.20.12 .20.. Luke.4.16..acts.17.2... Isaiah.66.23.24.........1. John.2.4.5.
It surprises me this topic has ever been a topic of debate. As I began studying this topic in 2005, it became abundantly clear the 7th day Sabbath is to be observed. Not for salvation, but for obedience. I've studied as many scholars, teachers, etc. as I can and I have heard literally zero good arguments for Sunday/1st day of the week observance over Sabbath observance. There's certainly no scriptures teaching this. I've come to believe, painfully, this isn't a head/cognitive issue; it's a heart issue. Scholars know the Sabbath was not transferred to Sunday. The reference to "the Lord's day" is referring to the Lord coming in judgment. Look up the single reference for this in Rev. 1:10 and then look up the references for "the day of the Lord" and, if you're honest, you'll see this is correct. Jesus was not resurrected on the 1st day of the week. Even if He was, it doesn't change Sabbath observance. If you ask 100 pastors why "we" worship on Sunday, they'll all tell you it's because Jesus rose from the dead on Sunday. So, if He rose on the Sabbath, would you immediately change your day of service from Sunday to Sabbath? Because Jesus rose from the dead at the end of the Sabbath. To assist in the study, biblical days begin with dawn not sunset. Meaning the 24 hour clock begins with dawn, not sunset. I'm not just speaking of the daylight portion. I love all of my brothers and sisters who disagree and I believe they are still saved as salvation is found only in Jesus. I hope they feel the same towards me.
The Hebrews began their day in the evening, after sunset, and ended it the next day at sunset. The day, therefore, ran from evening to evening. “From evening to evening you should observe your sabbath.” (Le 23:32)
Although the Hebrews officially began their day in the evening, they sometimes spoke of it as if beginning in the morning. For example, Leviticus 7:15 says: “The flesh of the thanksgiving sacrifice of his communion sacrifices is to be eaten on the day of his offering. He must not save up any of it until morning.” This usage was doubtless simply a matter of convenience of expression, to indicate overnight.
@@truthbetold8610 Thanks for responding. I always appreciate the long distance dialogue we're able to have over these topics.
The Hebrews did not begin their day in the evening after sunset. The verse you quote in Lev. 23:32, which speaks of the observance of the "affliction" during the Day of Atonement is a key verse disproving your position on the day beginning at sunset.
I want you to think about this for a moment. It might take a moment for it to settle in, but it can be a big "ah ha" moment for you. Go slowly. You'll see the sunset theory dissolve in your mind.
Firstly, how many evenings (after sunset) are there in a 24 hour period? One, right? Hopefully that was your answer. Now, think about what this verse is saying. The basis of v32 is v27. The Day of Atonement is the 10th day. V32 speaks of the "affliction" beginning on the 9th day "at evening". We are seeing two different days here.
Now, think about this...according to sunset theory, when is the evening of the 9th day? Is it at the dividing line of the 9th and 10th? No, it is not. That evening would belong to the 10th day, not the 9th. The evening of the 9th day would be at the dividing line of the 8th and 9th days. You might want to draw this on paper. There is no sleight of hand or trickery here.
It's a wonderful study, but if you take the time to look up events unfolding throughout scripture, you will undoubtedly see the days do not change when sunset arrives. I hope you will investigate this. It brings an entirely new/better understanding to the scriptures.
Unfortunately, we have all been duped into buying into this idea of the sunset theory because Jews today do it. From the very beginning of the bible in Genesis 1, we see the days beginning during the daylight portion of the very first day, not at sunset. Gen. 1:5 in Hebrew says it BECAME evening, and it BECAME morning. The work was done during the daylight portion and the day continued to be the first day until morning arrived.
Additionally, think about what "evening" really is. It's a MIXTURE of light and darkness. In order to have evening at all, you must have daylight. There so much more to this as this is literally the tip of the proverbial iceberg. I wish you the best on your continued studies, my friend.
@@aletheiaquest I do enjoy comparing information on different Bible topics, thank you for sharing your information.
Gen 1:5 requires more research on what the word "Day" referred to. Creative "days" were not 24 hours each, they were much longer.
Notice that on each creative "day' that God stated
(Genesis 1:5) GOD CALLED THE LIGHT DAY, but THE DARKNESS HE CALLED NIGHT. And there was evening and there was morning, a first day.
This is God speaking of day in the meaning of day LIGHT, we wouldn't refer to night as "day" even if a 24 hour day started at sunset.
If one were unbendingly literal, they could interpret the statement "there was evening and there was morning, a first day", as meaning the entire day was from sunset to daylight.
In both the Hebrew and the Greek Scriptures, the word “day” (Heb., yohm; Gr., he·meʹra) is used in a literal and in a figurative or even symbolic sense.
So, why do I say that a creative "day" is much longer than 24 hours?
At the conclusion of each "day" of creation, God made the statement "Then God saw that it was good", and at the end of the sixth day , "After that God saw everything he had made, and look! it was very good." (Gen 1:31) This statement is NOT MADE for His "day" of rest because it is Not yet complete!
(Hebrews 4:3) For we who have exercised faith do enter into the rest, just as he has said: “SO I SWORE IN MY ANGER, 'THEY WILL NOT ENTER INTO MY REST", although his works were finished from the founding of the world.
Paul indicated that God’s rest day was still continuing in his generation, and that was more than 4,000 years after that seventh-day rest period began. This makes it evident that each creative day, or work period, was at least thousands of years in length. As A Religious Encyclopædia (Vol. I, p. 613) observes: “The days of creation were creative days, stages in the process, but not days of twenty-four hours each.”-Edited by P. Schaff, 1894.
I felt it necessary to first know the use of the word "day" regarding creation. But when does the 7th day end? We could discuss that if you wish.
@@truthbetold8610 Thanks again for your response. This is always fun for me, especially when the dialogue is friendly.
I believe there is no further study required, as a whole, in order for "us" to understand the meaning of "day" in the scriptures; I think we have it figured out. I've completed an exegetical study of every occurrence of the word "day" in the bible, and each instance is quite easy to interpret. It seems the only place in the bible where people do this is Genesis 1-2.
Your point regarding Gen. 1:5 is a logical fallacy called "the unwarranted expansion of an expanded semantic field". Just because a word has different meanings within different contexts has no bearing on it's meaning within the confines of the particular passage in review. The question is not "what is the range of meanings for the word 'day' in every passage?" It's "what does 'day' mean in (insert whatever verse you like)".
Due to the context in Gen. 1:5, we can see "day" means the daylight portion of the full day. So, whereas we might say, "back in my father's day", we would never say, "back in my father's night". Context determines the meaning, just like with every other word we use.
"Literal" means "according to the literature". Where a passage is prophetic, take it prophetically; where it is poetic, take it poetically; where it is historical, take it historically.
You're correct regarding God's evaluation of His creation at the end of each CREATIVE day. That's the difference. Day 7 was not a creative day; it was a day of rest, so it does not require the same verbiage. Gen. 1:31 concludes the 6 days of God's actions of creating. Gen. 2:1 shows this as well, "Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them." V2 shows, "by the 7th day, God finished His work". There is a difference between creative days and the day of rest.
Your reference to Heb. 4:3...Notice this verse shows that it is believers who enter that rest, not nonbelievers. If we're still in the 7th day, then the entire world is in this rest. And, if we're still in the 7th day, we're still in the Sabbath rest, which means none of us should be working because we're all breaking the Sabbath! And, can you tell me the verbiage the bible used to say the 7th day began? There's no phrase, "there was evening and there was morning". If we're going to be so "literal", then we need some verbiage telling us this unending 7th day actually began.
And, if we are still in the unending 7th day, then God not only blessed and sanctified the 7th day, but He also issued the curse of Gen. 3 on the same day. This would completely abolish the meaning of "sanctify (which means to "set apart").
Lastly, Adam lived to be 930 years old-Gen. 5:5. But, the 1st day of his life was before the 7th day Sabbath. If the 7th day was not a literal, normal day, just like the previous 6, how do we make sense of the fact that his age includes days, weeks, months, and years in order to total 930 years? Adam and Eve lived through the 7th day before being driven out of the Garden.
Thanks for the dialoguing, my friend. Even if you disagree, I hope you find something of value within my response. I wish you the very best in your continued studies of this very important topic. Much love.
@@aletheiaquest Good to hear from you again! I'd like to comment, first of all, on Hebrews 4:3. If only believers enter His rest, then the whole world won't since they are not all believers, only a small number are. Besides that, this is GOD'S day of rest, it doesn't apply to humans and also who were the "believers" that are being addressed?
First century Christians were all anointed with Holy Spirit as Jesus was, that set them apart as a special group with a Heavenly calling. ( Eph 1:13,14) (1Pe 1:3, 4) (Re 20:6) Jesus referred to these as a "Little Flock", indicating they would be few in number. (Luke 12:32)
Jesus was anointed directly by Jehovah, and his congregation of spiritual brothers receive their anointing as a body of people through Jesus Christ. (Ac 2:1-4, 32, 33) They have thereby received an appointment from God to be kings and priests with Jesus Christ in the heavens.
Contrary to the teachings of Christendom, these chosen ones number 144,000 and are the only Christians with a Heavenly destiny.
(Revelation 14:1) Then I saw, and look! the Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who have his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads.
God closes the 6th day and starts the 7th day.
(Genesis 2:1-3) Thus the heavens and the earth and everything in them were completed. And by the seventh day, God had completed the work that he had been doing, and he began to rest on the seventh day from all his work that he had been doing. And God went on to bless the seventh day and to declare it sacred, for on it GOD HAS BEEN RESTING from all the work that he has created, all that he purposed to make.
The Bible count of time shows that it is now close to six thousand years since God began ‘resting’ from his creative works on earth. Just ahead of us lies the thousand-year reign of Christ, by the end of which God’s purpose of filling the earth with a happy human family will have been accomplished. God’s ‘rest day’ will then end. This would indicate that this ‘rest day’ would be of seven thousand years’ duration. (Genesis 1:28; Revelation 20:4) It is reasonable to conclude that each of the six preceding “days” of creation would occupy similar periods of time.
This is the reason Jesus is called the "Lord of the Sabbath" since his Kingdom rule will complete the 7th day and all will be restored to perfection.
(1 Corinthians 15:24-26) Next, the end, when he hands over the Kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power. For he must rule as king until God has put all enemies under his feet. And the last enemy, death, is to be brought to nothing.
(1 Corinthians 15:28) But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.
Where is the Commandment to Keep Sunday as the Sabbath? I cant find it in the Bible , I only find the 7 Day Sabbath Commandment , God say we will be keeping the 7 Day Sabbath in the New Earth
Isaiah 66-22-24 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make,
shall remain before me, saith the LORD,
so shall your seed and your name remain.
And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another,
and from one sabbath to another,
shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
And they shall go forth, and look
upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me:
for their worm shall not die,
neither shall their fire be quenched;
and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.
Have you all been reading the bible ??
Yes they do... but with their eyes shut.
Paul keep the Sabbath and the commandments.... Acts .24 .14 ....... Jesus keep the Sabbath the mark for God people.... Ezekiel .20.12 .20..... Exodus.31.17 ....1. JOHN.2.4..... 1 John.3.4..
Jesus amplified on the commandments, for example explaining adultery can cover the look as well as the act. Similarly I have come to see we are not to work for salvation but to 'Sabbath' or 'rest' in Christ in this our Day of opportunity (i.e. all of our converted life) to make sure that our day is kept holy, by living a sanctified walk with Him (as well as help from the Comforter), with the 'Lord of the Sabbath'. So in a sense we cease our labours of merit and sabbath in Him every Day! So the 4th commandment is relevant, but expanded to be kept Holy all our days, by daily holy living.
I have no problem stating that Christians should live holy lives daily but that doesn't mean the other 6 days are now as sacred as the Sabbath. There is only one sacred day in Scripture. The 7th day Sabbath, Saturday. There is no Bible text telling us Sunday is the new Sabbath or that it is sacred.
@@danielcristancho3524 I agree!!
I would like to add that we cannot CEASE from all our labors all week as we would starve. The Bible states if you don’t work, you don’t eat. (or involve oneself in secular activities). So of course then we cannot Sabbath everyday.
Also, we will keep the Sabbath in the new heavens and earth. So God created and instituted the Sabbath for all mankind forever.
Lastly, we keep it not to be saved but because we are saved and follow and obey Him Whom we love.
@@danielcristancho3524 Amen. God blesses you mightily, friend.
@@Darlenejoy Praise God. May He continue to bless you mightily, friend.
@@Project144K Thank you and may His blessings be on you too!
“Is the fourth commandment binding on the Church, or is it Judaizing to suggest it is binding on the Church?”21:00 The Catholic Church certainly declared keeping the seventh day Sabbath was Judaizing. That’s why a canon that came out of the Catholic Council of Laodicea of A.D. 365 condemned Sabbath keeping Christians to death for not keeping Sunday instead of the God ordained seventh day Sabbath. If this doesn’t make absolutely clear which day God expects His people to observe. I don’t know what would? Besides plain scripture of course.
Now I'm worried, since I've watched R.C. Sprouls lecture on Sabbath & HE said it was Sunday... there is owerwhelming ammount of replies debunking it and making sense of it, I even thought it... since I've just recently started to read the Bible. The thing that worries me is... How could R.C. have missed something like that, I mean the ammount of research he does, this one had to be a NO BRAINER FOR HIM... are his teachings compromised or did he genuinely believe Sunday was the Sabbath day?
Jesus or the Bible never had mentioned the first day is the new rest day!
The day of the Lord is the seventh day. Jesus rested on the seventh day even in His death. There is NOT a single verse in the Holy Bible where a change was done by Jesus or the disciples. John was with Jesus and he knew that the Sabbath is the seventh day not the first. God never changes, so when John says " I was on the spirit in the day of the Lord" Rev 1:10
Of course was the same 7th day he kept with Jesus and the same 7th day as a Jewish citizen since his childhood, never Sunday at all. Only 8 times the 1st day of the week is mentioned in the Bible, and never as a day of rest at all.
Amen and praise God. May He continue to bless you mightily, friend.
Do you question any of the other ten commandments?
With all due respect to the speakers, what that has been said so far is just opinion of man ; where are the biblical references? Remember that no one should add or take away anything to or from the word of GOD. The Lord ' s Day is not Sunday and you cannot prove it by the Bible. Isaiah 58:13, the Sabbath is the LORD 's Holy Day; not Sunday.
There is No such thing as a Christian Sabbath or a Jewish Sabbath. The Bible Always refers to it as the Sabbath of the Lord .
It begins with the word " remember " . If God wanted us to forget it, then why does it start with remember, and why write it in stone.? Did God make a mistake? I'm so glad, that modern theologians can correct Him.
Amen and well said. Praise God. May He continue to bless you mightily, friend.
The Saturday Sabbath was made by GOD, for the JEWS.
Christians don't have to obey the OLD LAWS of the Saturday Sabbath
they were nailed to the cross by the
CRUCIFIXION of JESUS CHRIST.
@@johncoughtrey8383
KJV Matthew 5:17-19
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail. Luke 16:17
@@johncoughtrey8383 Based on Scripture, the Sabbath was made at creation before there was a Jew (Genesis 1 and 2). Jesus stated in Mark 2 that the Sabbath was made for man (mankind), not made for the Jews. What was nailed to the cross (Colossians 2) were the ceremonial laws and ordinances that pointed forward to Christ, not the law of God, of which the Sabbath is a part. For to entertain the notion that the law of God was "nailed to the cross" would insinuate that God now allows humanity to have other gods besides Him, take His Name in vain, dishonor one's parents, commit murder and adultery, steal, bear false witness and covet our neighbor's spouses and possessions; and that notion is illogical and absurd.
@@Project144K Good morning, I also believe that symbolically, the sins of the believers were crucified and done away with Jesus paying for them with His death.
True SABBATH was never a Sunday! The special day is the seventh day, Saturday! There was never a shift in the New Testament to the first day!
Matthew, Mark, Luke &John wrote the accounts of Christ’s death and resurrection. Yes, He died, then prepared to be buried on “preparation day” which true Sabbath keeping Christians & Jews know as Friday. Matt. 27:62-63; 28:1, Mark 15:42; 16:1-2; Luke 23:56; 24:1; John 19:42; 20:1 and just like Paul in Corinthians, it wasn’t wrong for Mr. D Moorman to say “according to the scripture” or “according to the Bible” @Brent&KathyBesosa
Yes, a Bible reading follower would need to read other verses to be clear. All these disciples wrote as witnesses to Christ our Savior’s death and resurrection. Preparation day, meaning Friday, was mentioned; the ending of the Sabbath (7th Day) was mentioned and the first day of the week, (now known as Sunday) was mentioned. It’s not wrong to do God’s work on the Sabbath as explained in Isaiah 58.
Sunday Christians are simply honest that since they cannot truly keep all the commandments, they grasped something stronger which is different to that Sabbath Law and the other commandments, as Jesus anticipated, via the laws of the Holy Spirit.
No Mr Supaka, please go to my playlist "Sabbath" and engage some learning.
Ignorance does not make something true. Go learn about the biblical 7th day Sabbath and stop acting like you don't know. People do not fight against something if they don't know it exists. You know what you fight against.
the Convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine, we read:
Q. Which is the Sabbath day?
A. Saturday is the Sabbath day.
Q. Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
A. We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church, in the Council of Laodicea, (AD 336) transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday....
Keeping or observing the weekly 7th day Sabbath really shouldn’t be controversial at all. Here’s why ... It is this very special day that our Creator rested on, blessed, hallowed and sanctified (Gen. 2:2,3; Exo. 20:11) at the creation of our world and asks us to keep holy and celebrate every week as a memorial of His awesome creative power. This day that God calls “My holy day” and that we His people should call a delight and honorable (Isa. 58:13) clearly means a lot to God so it should mean a lot to us. He enshrined it in the very heart of His great 10 commandment moral law which is the only part of the Bible that God directly wrote with His finger on tables of stone signifying its permanence (Exodus 31:18). The weekly 7th day Sabbath was so holy and precious to Jesus that He not only taught the people what was and wasn’t lawful to do on this day (Matt. 12:12) but He encouraged His followers to pray for decades after His death and resurrection that when they needed to flee from tribulation they wouldn’t have to do so on the holy Sabbath (Matt. 24:20). And then again Jesus' grief stricken disciples after His crucifixion knowing His sacred regard for the Sabbath which they shared postponed the embalming of His body until after the Sabbath. As Luke reports on it many years later in Luke 23:56 "Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment." This confirms that the Sabbath is indeed 1 of God's commandments in His "holy, just and good" law (Romans 7:12). This blessed day is so special to God that He promises when He recreates a spectacular brand new world for the redeemed of all nations, “all flesh” will come together every Sabbath to worship and praise Him (Isa 66:23). So let’s in loving obedience to Jesus our God and Creator enjoy and celebrate Him by receiving the special blessing He offers everyone who keeps His holy day (Isa. 58:14). The weekly 7th day Sabbath is a wonderful gift to all of us because it's special, set apart relationship time with our Creator and Redeemer which is why Jesus said "The Sabbath was made (created) for mankind" (Mark 2:27). And if you have any doubt that Jesus wants His saved by grace people to obey His commandments including the 4th commandment 7th day Sabbath out of love for Him and because they are saved you only need to read the following verses:
John 14:15 - If you love Me keep My commandments.
Ecclesiastes 12:13 - Fear God and keep His commandments for this is the whole duty of man.
1 Corinthians 7:19 - Keeping the commandments of God is what matters.
Revelation 14:12 - Here is the patience of the saints who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.
Revelation 12:17 - And the dragon was enraged with the woman and went to make war with the rest of her offspring who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Revelation 22:14 - Blessed are those who do His commandments that they may have the right to the tree of life and may enter through the gates into the city.
May God bless you all as you open your heart to His leading on this important test of our willingness to obey Him in all things.
The Sabbath is not a law instituted at creation but under the Mosaic Covenant - Some say that the Sabbath is a command of God given in Genesis. To interpret Genesis 2:1-3 as a law given to humanity is in error. Though sin abounded, God gave no law until Moses. Paul states in Romans 5:13-14 that there was no law given from the time of Adam until the time of Moses. Furthermore, from Adam to Moses, there is no record in Scriptures of anyone keeping the Sabbath (especially during the period of Egyptian slavery captivity). In Genesis 2, it is called the seventh day and not the Sabbath. It is a description of what God did, not what God requires of man. To interpret Genesis 2:1-3 as a law also requires to create light on Sundays and animals on Friday. From the plain reading of the text, there is no reason to conclude that God intends to view every seventh day to be holy. Rather, it is quite possible to interpret that God declares that particular day, the actual seventh day, as holy. Interpretations which add (such as saying that God rested on the seventh day to establish the Sabbath) an underlying reason why God declares the day holy, is adding to the text.
@@kac0404 Amen, God did not command no one to rest during the 7th day of creation. Also noted on the 7th day of creation which the lord rested, it does not indicate day or night. Paul in Hebrew 4 discuss the rest in the faith of Jesus and uses the creation narrative as salvation as "TODAY". That is the rest its 'TODAY, its in Jesus.
@@kac0404 In Ex16:4&23 we have clear indication that the Sabbath as holy day instituted at creation, existed as a day of worship before the moral code of conduct was handed to Moses at Mt Sinai.
@Michiel Smit If every man from Adam to Moses kept the Sabbath, why is the Hebrew word for the weekly Sabbath found in the ten commandments, never found in the book of Genesis? Why is no one before Moses ever being told to keep the Sabbath. Why are there no examples of anyone keeping the Sabbath?
@@michielsmit7969 show me the verses please.
Romans 1:22 KJV
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Romans 3:31 KJV
Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law
Hebrews 8:10 KJV
For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
We answer the things of God with scripture not finite men's opinions
Isaiah 8:20 KJV
To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
Amen.
Amen and praise God. May He continue to bless you mightily, friend.
Interesting seeing sabbatarians going on with their proof texts.
Good discussion
I do not have a problem with the word Sabbath. My issue is when Sabbath keepers say that I am living in sin if I do not keep the Saturday Sabbath, and that keeping the Sabbath is a salvation issue. I am a Christian and I worship on Sunday, am I going to hell because I do not keep Saturday set apart?
It is not a salvation issue but more an obedience issue. If you love me keep my commandments is what He said. No different than honoring father and mother or any of the other commandments. If we know what to do and what He commands and yet refuse that is something He will judge us all on. Also the question is what is sin? When we define that then we can know whether not obeying this or any command is a sin or not.
@damon3431 When Jesus says, keep my commandments, He is not talking about the Ten Commandments (Law of Moses). Notice, Jesus says MY commandments. People, especially SDAs tend to think that everywhere in the Bible the they see the words; law, commandments or commands, that it means the Ten Commandments (Law of Moses) and that's just not true.
THE END OF THE SABBATH LAW
- What law of commandments separated Jews from Gentiles? The Law of Moses! One of those commandments was to observe the Sabbath. Ephesians 2:11-15
- Today, we are dead to the Law of Moses. That is the same law that said, 'You shall not covet' and also said, 'Remember the Sabbath day; to keep it holy.' The entire Law of Moses was nailed to the cross. Romans 7:4-7
- The only reason that we are not to covet today is because the Law of Christ commands us! Romans 13:9, Hebrews 10:1, 9
- Those who appeal to the old law make make themselves a debtor to do the whole old law. Galatians 5:2-3
The Sabbath Was Not Practiced by The New Testament Church
Lord willing, I hope we have seen clearly that the sabbath was given to the Jews at Sinai, it was part of the old covenant which was temporary. That covenant was removed because it was fulfilled and is no longer in force today. However, we do want to show from the Scriptures that the church in the first century (and beyond) did not observe the Sabbath as a mandatory observance required by the Gospel.
Note what was the pattern and practice we see in the New Testament of the first Christians.
The church was established on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:1) which always landed on the day after the sabbath (Leviticus 23:15-16). That means the church was established and began meeting for worship on that Sunday (Acts 2:42).
“On the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread…” Acts 20:7.
We read in 1 Corinthians 16:2 “on the first day of every week…” they were to lay something aside for the collection.
Now while it is true that we do find in the New Testament some Christians observing the sabbath and other parts of the Old Law, “it is important to recognize that inspired apostolic teaching sought to correct this error” (Jackson, “Should Christians Keep the Sabbath?”). (cf. Galatians 4:9-11).
So, we ask the question, does a Christian have to observe the sabbath today? The answer is no. That was part of the old law which served its purpose and is no longer in force today as a law to be followed to be right with God. Jesus came to bring us the better covenant which was enacted on a better promise with the blood of Jesus.
Jesus came to do what the law could not, true, lasting salvation.
Hebrews 10:1-4, 9-10, 19-22
@@kac0404 I’m not SDA just a whole Bible believer and follower of His Word. Since Jesus is God and is the Word wouldn’t His commandments be all the commandments He established? And those He followed while in the flesh?
The reformation was against the catholic practice of holding tradition above scripture. Yet sunday sabbath is precisely that. There is NO scripture to support moving Gods Sabbath to Sunday. The reformation was incomplete. Saturday is the Sabbath. Period.
Amen and praise God. May He continue to bless you mightily, friend.
The apostles themselves moved it to Sunday after the resurrection of Jesus
@@Calebmikesell weird that Luke forgot to mention that then, because the Sabbath is always the 7th day in the Book of Acts.
The new covenant isn't new. It was given to Abraham, and it was ratified by the blood of Christ The old covenant was given to Moses and ratified by the blood of animal sacrifice.
Jeremiah 31:31---->
@@binderdundit228 a covenant is nothing but an agreement between two parties. If one party breaks it it's off...
“36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever. 37 Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD. ”
Jeremiah 31:36-37 KJV
So I’m not sure what these guys are saying? I’m confused. I asked my pastor he said it’s done away with BUT I need to not murder not steal don’t bow down and worship a rock etc
But didn’t God write these with Hos own Finger? First word Remember?
Also all they talked about was the service?? Isn’t it all day?
If you can not shut out the world for one day and decide to make it a holy day for dwelling in Gods house and meet with His people then your life is too full and busy. Busy is a acronym for "being under Satan's yoke". He wants us busy full time. Don't let that happen to your spiritual life. God calls us to rest. Its a blessed life to apply it. 2 services is a good balance.
Thank you for sharing. This question of the Sabbath and Sunday will be the next and final issue in this great controversy between Christ and Satan. It's not only about which day we honor - the Sabbath or Sunday - but whom we worship in connection with those days. God has a holy day, and that is the seventh day Sabbath, founded at creation and in the heart of His law (Genesis 2 & Exodus 20). Satan also has a day, and that is the day of the Sun, the Sunday, instituted through his pagan religions and later adopted and "Christianized" by his papal institution (Revelation 13's first beast and 17's Mystery Babylon The Great; a beast in Bible prophecy is a kingdom and nation, 1 Kings 18, Daniel 7, Matthew 24).
Thus, when Sunday is legislated into law in the near future by America first (Revelation 13's mark of the beast and second beast), then those who honor God's holy Sabbath, while forfeiting the ability to buy and sell, will inherit eternal life. Conversely, those who honor the Sunday when it's made law, while only buying and selling temporarily (because the economy will collapse), shall forfeit eternal life (John 14, Revelation 7, 13, 14, 17, 18 & 22). This Sabbath Sunday test will come to every person on the earth. Therefore, choose you this day whom you will serve, friends (Joshua 24).
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MATTHEW 5:17-19 Do not think I hv come to abolish The Law...
MATT 7:21-23 ...away from Me who you practice lawlessness.
1JOHN 3:4..sin is breaking God's Law.
Paul wrote: “Go on carrying the burdens of one another, and thus fulfill the law of the Christ.” (Ga 6:2) While THE LAW COVENANT WAS TERMINATED at Pentecost, 33 C.E. (“since the priesthood is being changed, there comes to be of necessity a change also of the law”; Heb 7:12),
Christians come “under law toward Christ.” (1Co 9:21) This law is called “the perfect law that belongs to freedom,” “the law of a free people,” “the law of faith.” (Jas 1:25; 2:12; Ro 3:27) Such a new law had been foretold by God through the prophet Jeremiah when he spoke of a new covenant and the writing of his law on the hearts of his people.-Jer 31:31-34; Heb 8:6-13.
never stop doing our usual beliefs, there is somebody more knowledgeable to let it explain clearer...never stop.
The Sabbath which is not to Scripture, is not the Lord's Day of worship, but man's, for the worship of the Beast of his own Self.
Fri sunset to sat sunset is the 7th day and is the Sabbath and is the Lords Day.....there is no Jewish sabbath and there is no Christian Sabbath but there is a Sabbath of the Lord thy God.....there is no scriptural evidence to it changing and scriptural evidence of "the Lords day" being the first day, but it does say Jesus is the
Lord of the Sabbath.
Yes, Lord of the Sabbath, not Lord of the First Day.
NO biblical evidence of the Lord Jesus Christ or his disciples ever changing it from Saturday to the Sunday. Sunday com in from 321ac in Nicea, and this rest in sunday is man made.
Amen. May God and Christ continue to bless you mightily, friend.
If the sabbath is for the Jews only are the other nine commandments also?
and what about the northern 10 tribes still in exile. It was prophesied that they (we for some of us) would awaken in the later days and turn back to the laws of Moses and keep Sabbath among many other perfectly good and everlasting laws.
What is sin?. Is in scriptures
The Roman catholic church changed the sabbath from Saturday to Sunday.
Sunday is NOT a Sabbath. There is no scriptural support for that. It is a man made Sabbath that spawned in the Roman Catholic church. Neither Christ nor the Apostles ever called it sacred or commanded us to keep it holy.
Constantine (325 AD) DID NOT change the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday as Sabbath keepers falsely teach. Christians never kept the Sabbath from the apostolic age (33 AD) through the time of Constantine (325AD). Constantine merely made the first "Sunday closure law", since it had already been the day Christians worship for 300 years!
My comment is simple, if we only would read the Bible candidly, the. Keeping the Sabbath won't be an issue
@@kac0404 Well said !
On what day did the Lord Jesus appear to the disciples every time ?
"Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come."
1 Corinthians 16:2 KJV
"And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight."
Acts 20:7 KJV
God says the Sabbath is forever to be kept. Men behind a pulpit say we don't have to keep it anymore.... This is a tough decision 🤔
There is a logic disconnect here. First of all, John MacArthur said that the LD does not replace the Sabbath Day. The SD is Friday sunset till Sat sunset according to Scripture, which cannot be altered by mere men, however prominent, neither an emperor nor a pope.
Secondly, people don’t go to evening services because of lukewarm hearts that lack commitment, not because they have been convinced by their conscience/pastors that they do not need to ‘keep’ the sabbath holy. Or otherwise because their churches don’t have evening sermons (my church evening sermon is the same as the morning worship) so they listen to sermons on Ligonier channel at home on Sunday evenings! Two different issues.
ARE THEY PERFECT?...not, because of this confusions...there is GODS reserved reason for that that a person still need to clarify his genuine belief ..
Sunday isn’t the Lord’s Day. The Sabbath has always been Saturday and yes, it does matter which day because he sanctified and blessed the 7th day. When we worship on Sunday, our allegiance isn’t with God, it’s with Rome (who changed it by claiming ecclesiastical authority) who is the Beast identified in Revelation (whom “changed times and laws”). Unfortunately most christians are willfully blind to the implications of this and will fall victim to the mark of the beast. Religious legislation is coming very soon. Watch for it.
Cindy, are you a Seventh Day Adventist?
Cincy, on what day of the week did Jesus rise?
What if my work week is Wednesday through Sunday? My seventh day is Tuesday.
@@denniscampbell242 what hypothetical nonsense
Yes!! tell it how it is!
There is only one Sabbath. The
7th day Sabbath. I know of no other Sabbath. No where in the NT is Sunday ever described as sacred or a Sabbath by either Christ or the Apostles.
A change in the sacred day of the week occurred between the Old Testament and the New Testament. Throughout the New Testament a pattern emerges of congregational assemblies occurring on “the first day of the week.” For example, we discover in Acts 20:7 that “on the first day of the week” the church in Troas “gathered together to break bread.” Based on this passage, it is apparent that the activity of “breaking bread” or observing the Lord’s Supper was associated with an assembly that took place on the first day of the week. Additionally, we read Paul’s instructions to the Corinthian congregation regarding when they should set aside their funds for “the collection for the saints.” He stated that “on the first day of every week, each of you is to put something aside and store it up” (1 Corinthians 16:2). Paul instructed the Corinthian Christians to conduct their financial collections when they assembled as a congregation so that “there will be no collecting when I come.” And Paul knew based on the practice of the early church that the congregational assemble occurred “on the first day of the every week.”
While the religious activity of the Israelites centered around the seventh day of the week, the religious activity of Christians centered around the first day of the week. What caused this shift? The first day of the week became the day of assembly for the first century church because of its association with the resurrection of Jesus. In particular, Jesus rose from the dead on “the first day of the week” (Matthew 28:1-10; Mark 16:2-8; Luke 24:1-12; John 20:1-10), and His first two post-resurrection appearances to the assembled disciples occurred on “the first day of the week” (John 20:19, 26).
We assemble on Sunday because the first century church demonstrated a pattern of meeting on the first day of the week since it was the day that our Lord rose from the dead. But it should also be noted that we assemble more than once a week because although the New Testament presents a pattern of congregational assembly on the first day of the week, it also presents an expectation of frequent interaction between brothers and sisters in Christ. In fact, there is evidence of Christians gathering on a daily basis at least for a period of time (Acts 2:46; 5:42). The reason for assembling with frequency is identified by the author of Hebrews who told his readers to “consider how to stimulate one another to love and good deeds” and indicated that the way to accomplish this is by “not forsaking our own assembling together, as is the habit of some.” He then instructed his readers to encourage one another “all the more as you see the day drawing near” (Hebrews 10:24-25). Notice that forsaking the assembling of the church was viewed negatively not because one would miss out on worshipping God but because one would miss out on encouraging others. In fact, the author of Hebrews goes so far as to indicate that encouragement should be a daily exercise “so that none of you may be hardened by sin’s deceitfulness” (Hebrews 3:13).
@@kac0404 You're going to use the Church Father's as an authority on Sunday sacredness?? You can't be serious. That is what the Roman church also claims. The Church Father's ARE NOT SCRIPTURE. They have no authority to announce any change in the Ten Commandments, my friend. I need a 'thus saith the Lord.' Tradition and the church Father's isn't going to cut it. Where does Christ, the Son of God, the 2nd Person of the Godhead, support your claim? Only He can change His law? Where is Sunday declared or announced as sacred or holy in the NT?
@@kac0404 Sunday is never designated as a memorial for the resurrection. Show me that verse. That's what Baptism is for.
The first difference, very clear, is the day. It was Saturdagy that God commanded the
Got keep not Sunday, Saturday is the Lords day, He kept Saturday Sabbath, He Is the spiritual Sabbath eternally, He provides His rest of works for salvation with us taking His life works and death for us and rest in Him . Come to Me, I will give you rest. So, we rest every day in Him. But the literal day. He ordered to keep is Saturday, men changed to Sunday to not be connected with the Jewish race. Spiritually Jesus Is our daily Sabbath rest.
What if your work week is Wednesdy through Sunday?
@@olgaburgos7780 Amen Olga God Bless you,
@@denniscampbell242 Infantile question. It Never was and it never will be. The Sabbath always was and will be the seventh day.
The hardest question to answer is about the sabbath if you don't keep it .
Unfortunately, these type conversations help cult denominations like the SDA, Hebrew Israelites, and World Mission Society Church of God flourish. Once you say the Sabbath/4th Commandment is “binding”, these groups win the debate. Why? Because there is NO serious compelling Biblical evidence that God changed the Sabbath to Sunday….NONE. John MacArthur in his series on the Sabbath, deals with this discussion with more wisdom and caution because I believe he understands how cult traditions use this debate as a compelling tool to pull people away from the gospel back into slavery. I’m not hear to bash other brothers in Christ, but my desire is for there to be more awareness. Grace be with us all!
@JT, John MacArthur's position on the Sabbath comes from a Baptist view, not a Reformed view.
Is it not binding? Are we not commanded to meet? Do we not see a pattern that they met on the day Jesus resurrected (Sunday) in Scripture? Should Sundays not be different from other days especially when we live very busy restless lives in modern times? And you must understand that when we say it's binding, we are not talking like others in terms of it's salvinic purpose.
Dear JT, I'm John Jakupec (I give you my name so that I'm not some faceless entity on the web) I was born a Seventh Day Adventist I have wondered away from God and My faith for a long time (for about 40 years now) I am now 57 Years of age and am only recently come back to God. Over the course of time I have had an interest to find the truth as a result have read extensively on what other religions and faiths believe, and the one thing that has stood the test of time and has shone out to me, has always been the bible and the bible alone, this brings me back to the SAD faith as they practice just that, the same as the reformers of old. I strongly believe that many people of differing faiths will be saved regardless of creed as God looks at the heart.
When one doesn't understand something it is easy for them to place labels of ignorance onto that which they understand not. To label other denominations as a cult just because one has a different understanding of the Word to them, is quite simply put, ignorant and unsavoury, as one will only expose themself to be just that, ignorant and unsavoury.
I don't mean this in a derogatory way, I simply mean that, if I don't know what I'm talking about, then before I make a strong statement such as naming other denominations a cult I should first do some extensive research so that I don't express the wrong sentiment, and appear foolish to all onlookers. Please do yourself a favour and go to your nearest SDA church and ask the Pastor to explain the form and function of that denomination. Ask him for a copy of " The Great Controversy " by Elen G white, a prophet of God, read it and be very amazed, as I was.
BTW: "The Adventist Church boasts 1.2 million members in North America; with more than 18.7 million members worldwide it is among the fastest-growing denominations. The Pew Research Center found it to be the most racially diverse religious group in the U.S. earlier this year."
As you should know if it's not from God it will fizzle out as all cults do. SDA has been growing since 1843 and as the above mentions is the fastest-growing most racially inclusive denomination of all, maybe people should inform themselves and ask the Holy Spirit to enlighten them as they seek the truth, because there can only be one truth and it is up to to each and every one to seek it out, and remember that only the bible can answer your questions. Don't trust mere men to give you the answers concerning your salvation look only to God and His Word through prayer and meditation and it will become very clear to you.
God bless you and yours. May we bump into each other in heaven some glorious day. John Jakupec.
@@addjoaprekobaah5914 Short answer is NO! the fourth commandment clearly states 7th day Sabbath and this is a binding covenant with God. You may well be a Protestant but you are keeping a Catholic tradition see below.
"“If Protestants would follow the Bible, they should worship God on the Sabbath Day. In keeping the Sunday they are following a law of the Catholic Church.”-Albert Smith, Chancellor of the Archdiocese of Baltimore, re- plying for the Cardinal, in a letter dated February 10, 1920""
copy and paste the entire quote and learn something you never knew before.
So who are you relying on as a Protestant? God's word, or the institutions of the Roman Catholic church which boastfully presumes to change the word of God. Good luck with that.
@@muftithecat You are incorrect, I have posted several comments above that show Scripturally Christians are not required to observe a Sabbath.
My brother the bible is written so as believers to reveal it by receiving the holy spirit and let us not
forget that to God 1literal day is a1000yep years to us:2peter3:8 and we are living in the 7000 dispensation our rest day. Jesus is returning to judge the world
One of the difficulties we have now is that we have a situation where one has to travel 1/2 hour to an hour to get to a faithful church. Just the cost of making that trip twice can be problematic for many. Perhaps some kind of an approach can be created whereby one can spend the whole day.
It is sin to travel on the Sabbath. Exodus 16:29
@@Elizabeth-rk3do Mark 2:
23 One Sabbath he was going through the grainfields, and as they made their way, his disciples began to pluck heads of grain. 24 And the Pharisees were saying to him, “Look, why are they doing what is not lawful on the Sabbath?” 25 And he said to them, “Have you never read what David did, when he was in need and was hungry, he and those who were with him: 26 how he entered the house of God, in the time of Abiathar the high priest, and ate the bread of the Presence, which it is not lawful for any but the priests to eat, and also gave it to those who were with him?” 27 And he said to them, “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. 28”
Luke 14:5
"And he said to them, “Which of you, having a son or an ox that has fallen into a well on a Sabbath day, will not immediately pull him out?”
An exception has always been allowed for necessity. Which is worse to neglect assembling for public worship or driving to church?
The Bible says that God hates pride, the problem I've run into whether you keep this day or that day it's good to keep it to the Lord reverence God I've seen people be prideful on both sides about it cuz it's something they can accomplish of themselves and I don't know how that works into the doctrine of grace not of yourselves as any man should boast Grace mercy and peace be with you