Yup! Our infrastructure is not ready for electric and the tech is still lazy. Hybrid is the way to go right now. Besides, I don't feel like having wars for Lithium and rare earth materials.
For anyone confused, this is a Diesel Electric truck, similar in functionality to a Diesel Locomotive. Not exactly, but similar. I believe there is a CAT C15 under the hood. The CAT runs a generator that charges the batteries, and the batteries run electric motors at the wheel ends with a combined 80,000lbs/ft of torque. I know damn well your freightshaker coronado ain’t making 80,000 pound feet at the wheels.
Hey, if it works, is reliable and cheap to operate, I could care less. Besides, if storage works, I could have an awesome stereo in the cab while running down the highway.
A normal truck might be making 80k at the wheels, that number is after the torque converter, not at the motor shaft itself. It's like the hummer EV, they claim some insane number but it's "only" got 1k ft/lbs of torque.
It's not a c15, I can't remember the exact displacement but it's under 10L, I think 8.7L? Edit: I got curious. It's a C9, which is still an impressive motor at 456hp/1540lb-ft.
Also a regular diesel truck can put around 100,000lb-ft down at the wheels. But only in low gear. As soon as you start grabbing gears that torque starts disappearing. Edit: I decided to fact check and realized that my source for the figure didn't take drive line losses into account. I'd say something between 80,000 and 100,000 depending on your exact gearing.
A lot of you don't seem familiar with Edison Motors. This is a diesel electric truck, not a fully electric like a Tesla. The same technology that powers frieght trains. You don't have to worry about charging station or extra load on the power grid because this truck has a diesel generator. You can also charge them by plugging them in or putting solar panels on trailers to reduce fuel cost. Its the convenience of diesel with the power and preformance of electric. If you look into this company its actually pretty cool. If I'm not mistaken the owner was a log truck driver. This is gonna be big if they can get it right
They are nearly done. They are currently just adding the finishing touches and are already setting up for manufacturing. Their testers are getting the trucks for 2 whole years so they can really put them to the test before official production begins. Within 2 years they went from an idea/dream to the masterpiece in this video.
@@TheSlimCognito 1) Being the one who first brought it up I obviously know these things. 2) Possibly Porsche and their customers are not interested in serial hybrids?
Hey, somebody who was there! I've got some questions about the truck. First, how did it look compared to the rest of the truck's there? Was it big, small, or around the same size? Second, does the center seat look weird in person? Or does just look like a normal truck that happens to have a seat there?
@aidantuck9113 It was about the same size cab as a normal truck, just missing chunks above the front fenders where a large butterfly hood would be and the center seat looks perfect in person with the smaller hood
@@aidantuck9113 very similar to the other trucks, just days easier to work on, and get parts for, the largest difference I saw was since the seat is in the center you can see your surroundings much easier, and lastly the air horn sounds great!
Whats cooler is when they put massive strains on the electric grid and then catch on fire and release toxic fumes and burn for 2 days bc its a giant pile of burning metal instead of a few gallons of gas
Then die off quickly, just like turning off the light switch 😂😂😂 just wondering, your hauling a load cross country and one of these electric things die in the middle of nowhere, where or how would you recharge it😂😂 it’s not like calling a service truck to change out a blown tire😂😂😂
@@joshuacheung6518Torque through a driveline. Since the motor is in the axle, it merely tries to twist the axle housing, which is stout and can handle it with zero noticable deflection. With the planetary hubs it further reduces the angular torque load creating more of inline torque load with the wheels. Basically, a fantastic design.
@joshuacheung6518 He's talking about when the frame rails twist due to the torque being applied by the engine in a normal truck. The engine is mounted to the rails at the front. It creates rotational energy perpendicular to the axles. When there is a heavy load and the engine creates high torque, sometimes the force required to move the truck forward is greater than the force it takes to twist the frame rails. So, the rails will twist until the forces ballance out and the truck begins to move. To see a good example of this, look up big rig drag racing. You will see extreme frame twisting where a front wheen comes off the ground. The reason it's not an issue in this truck is because the electric drive motors are integrated into each axle where a standard differential typically resides. So all the torque is limited to the axle body and the stabilizers. The stabilizers just have to keep the axle body from rotating instead of the wheels.
@joshuacheung6518 Even a car under hard acceleration from a standing start, the right wheel will break traction before the left. It's caused by from engine torque . Some car frames twist also when drag raced, if too weak for it
I've wanted this forever. Trains are super powerful. They're diesel electric. Ive always said "someday we will have diesel electric engines for our trucks" thank you Edison. Please sell this in a crate form so I can stick it in my truck.
@@Aramil4especially nowconsidering the gains and potential in the regenerative braking industry for big rigs is probably going to be a huge deal in 1-5 years. At least thatd be my guess. Finding how to charge the battery with engine braking would be nuts
@@Aramil4 not necessarily. you can keep the generator running at the best RPM for efficiency all the time. (sometimes this RPM is 0). you lose some efficiency through the drivetrain and extra weight but it does work out to be better in the end. there's also lot of waste when you're bringing RPMs up from idle after a stop, this doesn't happen with this setup
You know... the invention of the Diesel Electric Locomotive was to fix a simpler problem: the transmission. The transmission was always either too big, too heavy, or too inefficient. The setup was always incapable of performing the duties of a locomotive engine. So someone thought of using a Diesel-Electric Drivetrain. It worked because it WAS capable of performing the duties of a locomotive engine and it was simpler and lighter overall. The fact that it used less fuel was only seen as a bonus at the time but it proved to be invaluable. Diesel Electric Locomotives were under development in the 1930's but were delayed due to the onset of WWII when all diesel/gasoline fuel stocks were rationed for the war effort.
lol why? i mean thats cool and all but thats not thw purpose of a truck. its a means of transporting a producr from 1 place to another? whats the point of going 0-100 in 20 seconds if the goods your hauling all get smashed in the trailer. and 80k is a light load for that truck.
@@WowCreativeUsername im aware and as freaking awesome as it and sounds. it doesnt really matter lol i perfer my loads to get there nice and gentle. now i am all about the same fuel. thats super legit and it being super quite. thats awesome.
@@Bidwellz9it will actually be far better than a normal truck, it is far more efficient to run diesel electric than just straight diesel. The engine can run at a certain rpm and be tuned to be highly efficient at that rpm. Plus the engine only runs when power is required and the electric motors driving the axles directly removes parasitic loss from transmissions and driveshafts plus you can use regen to charge batteries while braking.
@@Karlheukenand yet Teslas still underperform. This thing would do perfectly fine on the Highway, given it’s already purpose built for harsh environments. To make it interstate worthy, All you gotta do is take off the unnecessary logging equipment to reduce weight, because you won’t need it. Ex: Headache Rack. What makes Edison different isn’t the Truck, that’s just the Icing on the cake, but it’s how the Truck Generates and uses said power. Diesel-Electric is already used on Long Haul Intermodel Freight Locomotives, there’s no reason it wouldn’t be good for interstate use.
The Edison truck is better for short hope where it's a lot more city driving than interstate/highway. Which is why they are going for the vocational market and not the OTR market. Highway driving is mostly just go and hardly no stopping, so getting power back from regen braking won't happen as often. Might see some savings in fuel costs, but the trailer would have to have a battery pack to help with the electric load for range. For now OTR is going to be strictly diesel.
@@brooksbrown580this one was built by people who have field experience not some cost-obsessed bean counter who hasn't seen a real truck in his life. It's going to be fine.
What I really love is that they are doing the reverse of what they original Edison did (just like modern tesla is doing the opposite of what the original Tesla did (he would be pissed with the company that unfortunately bears his name).
It’s RUclips’s algorithm. If he had titles like “ev semi” or something along those lines pushing the green agenda, the algorithm would pick him up and the channel would be in the recommended slot more to more viewers.
Most guys that drive diesel pickups don't understand that electric motors have more torque and are more reliable than diesel powered. The electric motors regenerate on the downgrades.
I have been following you for some time now and wish you great success. I am genuinely happy and impressed at the crew you have been able to put together
Lots of these Electric Vehicles, freeze up, the batteries die, even when it gets close to 20 Degrees, at below Zero, The Batteries Drain, Towing Capacity falls well below whats claimed, they begin to stall, Many drivers are now refusing to drive for companies that only have Electric Trucks...
This particular one would probably make it better than a diesel truck, because the guy that built it lives in Canada and built it specifically to be a logging truck. It's well worth digging up his RUclips channel because he's got his head screwed on straight.
Yep these are nothing more than big Golf Carts that run on batteries, they are highly Unreliable, and have constant problems with draining Batteries, and Batteries that will not hold their charge even for 20 miles after being charged.
I'm ashamed of this. Following elon musks horrible idea? Anyone ever ask a trucker what thier opinion on acceleration is? Do you know what load shift is son?
@@arcanecrisis you must be new. this company, project, and prototype are as opposite to musk as it's possible to be. literally everything there is to dislike about Tesla, is something where Edison goes out of their way to be the opposite.
I'm still pissed that Truduh gave $20 *million* to a company to build an electric show to "prove Canada can build an electric car" with no plans to manufacture it, when this company had been around for years and already had several working prototypes and a production design/plans!
@@sMack120it's diesel electric like alot of modern ferries are, so the batteries get charged by an onboard generator, i guess putting electric truck in the description is a bit misleading
I have recently been thinking how much better it would be to make a semi in to a hybrid instead of fully electric. You get the insane power of an electric truck and the rage of a diesel, truly the best of both worlds
Yep its a great idea. I'm still skeptical that electric power can ever be as strong as fossil-fuel. In theory there's more power but in practice it's pretty apples-to-oranges. The power generated by diesel going through a gearbox is just different and I don't know if electric motors will completely ever match it because they're physically limited by the number of copper windings, size and weight of the battery, and the amperage possible through all the connections. For instance, the fastest vehicles on earth are still fossil-fuel powered. All the airplanes are still fossil-fuel powered. In fact there is an "all-electric passenger jet" but it only goes 250 miles which is basically a guarantee it will run out of power and crash land if it can't immediately land for any reason. For comparison, the cheapest fossil-fuel airplane is the Piper PA-28 Cherokee, it has a range of over 400 miles, and you could probably double that just by adding a bigger fuel tank.
@@gorkyd7912this truck is a diesel electric hybrid with the diesel disconnected from everything. It just charges the battery. It already makes more power than a straight diesel.
@@gorkyd7912Back in 1920, the US Navy got the Tennessee-class battleship, a 33,000-ton vessel powered by the world's first turbo-electric drive - Using four electric motors that each delivered over 7,000 horsepower to shove the massive ship through the water. That was a hundred years ago. Today, electric motors at sea do the same for the 100,000-ton (likely more) USS Gerald R. Ford, diesel-electric drive just like this runs the 237,000-ton cruise ship Wonder of the Seas, not to mention all the heavy-duty freight trains that are running about. If electric motors are powerful enough to be used in place of diesel engines that weigh 50 times as much as a semi truck can legally carry, they're powerful enough to be used to drive those trucks.
With electric you can go from 0%-100% power wise almost instantly which makes burning out really easy. Furthermore, 100k lbs behind would make it even easier to burn out since to pull a load that heavy, you need gradual acceleration, or you lose traction.
i have enjoyed seeing so much progress, i remember watching your first tiktoks when you were still logging, cant wait to see how far your team will go and so proud to see a canadian manufacturing company being born🇨🇦❤️
@@sMack120It's a diesel electric truck with a CAT C9 under the hood for a generator, your country already runs on this type of power with Diesel Electric locomotives running across the country every day hauling a shit ton of freight. Do some research before trashing the truck.
@@Cozzy-Wozzy The video is about this new Electric truck & "spinning tyres in an electric rig", no mention of - Diesel/electric so check your facts before opening your Pie-hole, 😲
I imagine an even better day where they are off the roads completely. They should have their own dedicated trade routes on their own roads. And have the behemoths like costco and Walmart build around those routes. Just unnecessary to go from train to a highway.
I fly cargo planes off of aircraft carriers. In the C-2 we accelerate at ~4G’s of lateral acceleration with thousands of pounds of cargo up against literal particle boards and a couple of metal crossbars 😂 your milk will be ok
@@JF32304 musk kool aid? No. Marketing has been cursed forever. Tout everything "positive" and ignoring everything "negative" and show off easily perceived things, even when actually worthless.
It's electric and basically has built-in launch control. from the second you put your foot down you have a hundred percent torque from those electric motors. Gasoline engines that have to be above 2,500 RPMs to 4500 RPMs to have the torque needed to launch, hence launch control. ..... plus it's a semi meant for moving large weight .... to actually write in a launch control codes like Teslas would be pointless and and a waist of time and money
you mean the silver peak mine thats in nevada thats the only one cause there isnt one in utah. Unless they opened another I dont know about. But we are already looking at new mine sites weve already seen new zoning be approved for new mines. Not to mention that the majority comes from china who gladly destroys their resources to further the chinese communist parties goals. So I guess the fact they are trying to go to war with us and will likely cut off trade as soon as it has the military power to stand woulndt effect the us lithium supply or number of mines in the states. You are more than welcome to support my lithium ventures when that time comes though. or dont, im only a SME. @@appleintosh
I don't support going electric... But I support this rig! Diesel generator and instant torque 👌🏻 good job Edison motors can't wait to see what you guys build with deboss 👌🏻👌🏻
I love this idea! Been saying for yrs, someone should build a semi like trains are built. Only need half the engine size to run the generator! Half the fuel! Great idea!
Normal truck would use 100 gallons to go so far the diesel generator to charge this up to do the same distance will use 130 gallons so its completely moronic
@@effigy42Not true, diesel electric locomotives use the exact same setup and have proven to be far more efficient fuel-wise compared to a straight diesel setup. Stop spewing such stupid bs please.
they arent tesla..they actually have a brain. they arent trying to get rid of diesel engines, theyre taking advantage of the massively efficient performance of a diesel engine paired with the insane amount of torque you get from using electric motors. tesla just said "uh duuhh les upscale rc car and make it go fast and tats also one of our biggest selling poins buh it has to retarge"
@tylergaye5457 commuting to work everyday is the number one offender to our current emissions problem. Too many people and too many vehicles. We aren't able to work less because we are constantly tied down by debt. Debt controls you and the choices you make. If you owe money, you will work to pay the dividends by whatever means possible. A lot of people never reach their full potential because they are being held back. There is a reconfiguration happening where many people's debt may go down but so will their ability to experience ownership. If we are forced to rent everything, then it is just another form of control, renting comes by way of contract.
I'm excited to see trucking finally catch back up with what the railroad figured out 70 years ago, diesel electric should be the way forward for trucks. Electric trains on nuclear+renewable powered energy grids and electric Hybrids for the roads.
Standard diesel trucks will do burn outs bobtail. I used to run a 600 hp 60 series detroit that would spin the tires on dry pavement with an empty trailer if you weren't paying attention to how much push water you were feeding it. No hate on what Edison is doing here, I just see a lot of comments talking about how impressive the power is on this electric truck. This is pretty standard to what you could expect from a diesel also.
I find it scary just how quite it is and quick. Silent wreking ball on the road. It good to be able to hear where large vehicles are on the road .... i always listen for traffic when driving on hilly roads with blind spots or cannot see traffic coming.
Im glad you all went the diesel electric route instead of pure electric it makes more sense for this kinda thing
Yup! Our infrastructure is not ready for electric and the tech is still lazy. Hybrid is the way to go right now.
Besides, I don't feel like having wars for Lithium and rare earth materials.
it has a CAT diesel generator to charge the batteries.
@@robertnicholls9917 While I get your last point I just wanted to point out that Lithium is not a rare earth metal.
@@schwuzi I know, the sentence structure was wrong, changed. Graci!
@@robertnicholls9917anyone who wants to argue we should do electric trucks for the planet, should be arguing for better rail infrastructure instead
Builds first of its kinds truck, immediately does a burnout.
Perfect. 🤣
Edit: It's hilarious how triggered some y'all are getting over a technicality.
That's definitely a hold my beer kinda moment, good job fellas.
It bothers me slightly that at over 10 tons it sounds EXACTLY like my 5lb RC semi truck on takeoff...
@@NikkiTheOtterI for one find mild amusement that it can feel like an RC truck despite being so powerful.
Gotta try and break it before the customer does
@@NikkiTheOtterI think that's really funny personally.
For anyone confused, this is a Diesel Electric truck, similar in functionality to a Diesel Locomotive. Not exactly, but similar. I believe there is a CAT C15 under the hood. The CAT runs a generator that charges the batteries, and the batteries run electric motors at the wheel ends with a combined 80,000lbs/ft of torque. I know damn well your freightshaker coronado ain’t making 80,000 pound feet at the wheels.
Do you actually believe that number? It’s a pretty cool rig regardless
Hey, if it works, is reliable and cheap to operate, I could care less. Besides, if storage works, I could have an awesome stereo in the cab while running down the highway.
A normal truck might be making 80k at the wheels, that number is after the torque converter, not at the motor shaft itself. It's like the hummer EV, they claim some insane number but it's "only" got 1k ft/lbs of torque.
It's not a c15, I can't remember the exact displacement but it's under 10L, I think 8.7L?
Edit: I got curious. It's a C9, which is still an impressive motor at 456hp/1540lb-ft.
Also a regular diesel truck can put around 100,000lb-ft down at the wheels. But only in low gear. As soon as you start grabbing gears that torque starts disappearing.
Edit: I decided to fact check and realized that my source for the figure didn't take drive line losses into account. I'd say something between 80,000 and 100,000 depending on your exact gearing.
A lot of you don't seem familiar with Edison Motors. This is a diesel electric truck, not a fully electric like a Tesla. The same technology that powers frieght trains. You don't have to worry about charging station or extra load on the power grid because this truck has a diesel generator. You can also charge them by plugging them in or putting solar panels on trailers to reduce fuel cost. Its the convenience of diesel with the power and preformance of electric. If you look into this company its actually pretty cool. If I'm not mistaken the owner was a log truck driver. This is gonna be big if they can get it right
They are nearly done. They are currently just adding the finishing touches and are already setting up for manufacturing. Their testers are getting the trucks for 2 whole years so they can really put them to the test before official production begins. Within 2 years they went from an idea/dream to the masterpiece in this video.
Serial hybrid, like Porsche's first car in 1905.
@@TheSlimCognito 1) Being the one who first brought it up I obviously know these things.
2) Possibly Porsche and their customers are not interested in serial hybrids?
@@TheSlimCognito Yes, but I was talking about serial hybrids, which this video is about 👍
Idiots love to comment confidently about something they dont understand, it sucks :/
It was beyond awesome to see Topsy in person!
Hey, somebody who was there! I've got some questions about the truck.
First, how did it look compared to the rest of the truck's there? Was it big, small, or around the same size?
Second, does the center seat look weird in person? Or does just look like a normal truck that happens to have a seat there?
@aidantuck9113 It was about the same size cab as a normal truck, just missing chunks above the front fenders where a large butterfly hood would be and the center seat looks perfect in person with the smaller hood
@@grantkaster6176 Thanks!
Ahhh, I'm so jealous! 😭😂😅
@@aidantuck9113 very similar to the other trucks, just days easier to work on, and get parts for, the largest difference I saw was since the seat is in the center you can see your surroundings much easier, and lastly the air horn sounds great!
Electric motors have literal “light switch” power. It’s insane the power they can demand in an instant.
Until they pull a load up a mountain the battery dies. I'm a diesel mechanic. These things have years of work to go
@@washguy9577it's not practical for work, but it is kinda cool, in its own right.
That's torque
Whats cooler is when they put massive strains on the electric grid and then catch on fire and release toxic fumes and burn for 2 days bc its a giant pile of burning metal instead of a few gallons of gas
Then die off quickly, just like turning off the light switch 😂😂😂 just wondering, your hauling a load cross country and one of these electric things die in the middle of nowhere, where or how would you recharge it😂😂 it’s not like calling a service truck to change out a blown tire😂😂😂
I didn't think of this before, but frame twist isn't really a problem with e-axles. That's cool!
Pretend I'm an idiot, why can't frame twist be caused by e-axles? What causes it in other vehicles?
@@joshuacheung6518Torque through a driveline. Since the motor is in the axle, it merely tries to twist the axle housing, which is stout and can handle it with zero noticable deflection. With the planetary hubs it further reduces the angular torque load creating more of inline torque load with the wheels. Basically, a fantastic design.
@joshuacheung6518 He's talking about when the frame rails twist due to the torque being applied by the engine in a normal truck.
The engine is mounted to the rails at the front. It creates rotational energy perpendicular to the axles. When there is a heavy load and the engine creates high torque, sometimes the force required to move the truck forward is greater than the force it takes to twist the frame rails. So, the rails will twist until the forces ballance out and the truck begins to move.
To see a good example of this, look up big rig drag racing. You will see extreme frame twisting where a front wheen comes off the ground.
The reason it's not an issue in this truck is because the electric drive motors are integrated into each axle where a standard differential typically resides. So all the torque is limited to the axle body and the stabilizers. The stabilizers just have to keep the axle body from rotating instead of the wheels.
@@joshuacheung6518 what they all said.
@joshuacheung6518 Even a car under hard acceleration from a standing start, the right wheel will break traction before the left. It's caused by from engine torque . Some car frames twist also when drag raced, if too weak for it
I've wanted this forever. Trains are super powerful. They're diesel electric. Ive always said "someday we will have diesel electric engines for our trucks" thank you Edison. Please sell this in a crate form so I can stick it in my truck.
Why tho? You just lose efficiency in the conversion. You’ll get farther per gallon diesel if you just drive the wheels directly with diesel.
@@Aramil4Not really? The engine is off for most of the time, and when it is on it's running at a RPM that is most efficient for the engine.
@@Aramil4especially nowconsidering the gains and potential in the regenerative braking industry for big rigs is probably going to be a huge deal in 1-5 years. At least thatd be my guess. Finding how to charge the battery with engine braking would be nuts
@@Aramil4 not necessarily. you can keep the generator running at the best RPM for efficiency all the time. (sometimes this RPM is 0). you lose some efficiency through the drivetrain and extra weight but it does work out to be better in the end. there's also lot of waste when you're bringing RPMs up from idle after a stop, this doesn't happen with this setup
You know... the invention of the Diesel Electric Locomotive was to fix a simpler problem: the transmission.
The transmission was always either too big, too heavy, or too inefficient. The setup was always incapable of performing the duties of a locomotive engine.
So someone thought of using a Diesel-Electric Drivetrain. It worked because it WAS capable of performing the duties of a locomotive engine and it was simpler and lighter overall.
The fact that it used less fuel was only seen as a bonus at the time but it proved to be invaluable.
Diesel Electric Locomotives were under development in the 1930's but were delayed due to the onset of WWII when all diesel/gasoline fuel stocks were rationed for the war effort.
Im excited to see videos of this rig doing work.
I wanna see how fast it pulls 80k down a drag strip
lol why? i mean thats cool and all but thats not thw purpose of a truck. its a means of transporting a producr from 1 place to another? whats the point of going 0-100 in 20 seconds if the goods your hauling all get smashed in the trailer. and
80k is a light load for that truck.
@@7.3PSDA2 It's called rigorous testing and fun.
@@WowCreativeUsername im aware and as freaking awesome as it and sounds. it doesnt really matter lol i perfer my loads to get there nice and gentle. now i am all about the same fuel. thats super legit and it being super quite. thats awesome.
@@7.3PSDA2believe it or not but people out there have different opinions than you do 😮
Moves good! Most people don’t appreciate or understand the torque it takes to move that much weight that quickly.
And according to the livestreams they’ve “overbuilt” the truck significantly so it’s likely on the heavy side.
@@striaticI've driven on a couple logging roads. I'm bot sure you can overbuild for those roads, without making it levitate.
Those electric motors give instantaneous torque as well.
theres no trailer or weight to pull lolol, the milage on this will be god awful, but people want to believe in fairy tales
@@Bidwellz9it will actually be far better than a normal truck, it is far more efficient to run diesel electric than just straight diesel. The engine can run at a certain rpm and be tuned to be highly efficient at that rpm. Plus the engine only runs when power is required and the electric motors driving the axles directly removes parasitic loss from transmissions and driveshafts plus you can use regen to charge batteries while braking.
I love how you guys are doing cool stuff to test it out.. like who doesn't want to see a little tire smoke from a semi? Lol
Honestly, this has a better likekyhood of being adopted than the Tesla Semi.
These Edison trucks were designed for rough service on and off road situations like logging. Tesla trucks were designed for highways
@@Karlheukenand yet Teslas still underperform. This thing would do perfectly fine on the Highway, given it’s already purpose built for harsh environments. To make it interstate worthy, All you gotta do is take off the unnecessary logging equipment to reduce weight, because you won’t need it. Ex: Headache Rack. What makes Edison different isn’t the Truck, that’s just the Icing on the cake, but it’s how the Truck Generates and uses said power. Diesel-Electric is already used on Long Haul Intermodel Freight Locomotives, there’s no reason it wouldn’t be good for interstate use.
The Edison truck is better for short hope where it's a lot more city driving than interstate/highway. Which is why they are going for the vocational market and not the OTR market. Highway driving is mostly just go and hardly no stopping, so getting power back from regen braking won't happen as often. Might see some savings in fuel costs, but the trailer would have to have a battery pack to help with the electric load for range. For now OTR is going to be strictly diesel.
You gents are absolutely legendary! Keep on keepin’ on!
We’re all here before he becomes a billionaire 😂
Now you just need to make a diesel-electric pickup truck, so we can all have this perfect blend of the two worlds!
Yeah like a n locomotive
@@freedwagner7212 And every piece of heavy-haul mining equipment.
That's what the truck on the video is
@@CptDoopey No, that's a semi-truck.
Or stop denying the power of electromagnetics as a whole
I wonder if Tamiya will add it to their 1/14th scale line 😂
I hope so, it would be a near to instant purchase for me, and I have held off on buying a Tamiya semi for a while
I believe that one is already electric.
I want the 1/1 rc truck
For real, These Junk trucks are unreliable, prone to over heating batteries, and just suddenly dying in Traffic has happened many many times..
@@brooksbrown580this one was built by people who have field experience not some cost-obsessed bean counter who hasn't seen a real truck in his life. It's going to be fine.
“Edison” is such a good subtle chirp at Tesla
Unlike Nikola Motors, these aren't a scam.
What I really love is that they are doing the reverse of what they original Edison did (just like modern tesla is doing the opposite of what the original Tesla did (he would be pissed with the company that unfortunately bears his name).
Tesla would shit on Elon so hard if he was still alive today.
Listen bro I don't like Tesla either but they did basically bring electric cars to the masses @@jeremylopat4092
I still can't understand why you only have 160k subscribers. This is the coolest thing on RUclips..
The truth always has only a reminat
I've recommend this channel a few times, just getting the word out when/where I can!
It’s RUclips’s algorithm. If he had titles like “ev semi” or something along those lines pushing the green agenda, the algorithm would pick him up and the channel would be in the recommended slot more to more viewers.
@@adventuresiwork3563 I really wonder about that. It doesn't have MR beasts toothy smile and all kinds of fluff around it.
Because big brother doesn’t want something that actually works become popular.
Most guys that drive diesel pickups don't understand that electric motors have more torque and are more reliable than diesel powered. The electric motors regenerate on the downgrades.
First Edison truck burnout? When?
I dont think they meant tires, unless the battery fire started the tires to smokin!! 😂😂😮
This makes me proud to be a Canadian.
This made me realise the classic truck acceleration noise is actually mostly the rear double diffs!!
I have been following you for some time now and wish you great success. I am genuinely happy and impressed at the crew you have been able to put together
Now drive it across Saskatchewan and Manitoba in February 😂
I would actually like to see that after the ford lightning towing debacle.
Lots of these Electric Vehicles, freeze up, the batteries die, even when it gets close to 20 Degrees, at below Zero, The Batteries Drain, Towing Capacity falls well below whats claimed, they begin to stall, Many drivers are now refusing to drive for companies that only have Electric Trucks...
It has a diesel generator to address that issue
This particular one would probably make it better than a diesel truck, because the guy that built it lives in Canada and built it specifically to be a logging truck. It's well worth digging up his RUclips channel because he's got his head screwed on straight.
It did ight
That much mass accelerating that fast is wild! Great work fellas!
Someone just made a big toy for themselves 😂
No you need to look into it more . it’s a diesel electric just like a train
100 hp diesel will be very efficient in fuel economy .
@@ryanchristopher5906 I know I have been watching the made the retro fit (IT WAS A JOKE)
it's just a little bigger than the other toys they've been making themselves on the side.
Yep these are nothing more than big Golf Carts that run on batteries, they are highly Unreliable, and have constant problems with draining Batteries, and Batteries that will not hold their charge even for 20 miles after being charged.
@brooksbrown580, you know they are Diesel-electric, right? Very similar to modern trains... too bad trains don't work cause the batteries die. Smh
What an absolute beauty
What an Absolute Piece of Junk !
As a fellow Canadian, I absolutely love the stuff you guys are doing. Stuff made in Canada should be proud to wear that badge.
Remember when your government stood up for a nazi, good time
I'm ashamed of this. Following elon musks horrible idea? Anyone ever ask a trucker what thier opinion on acceleration is? Do you know what load shift is son?
@@arcanecrisis you must be new. this company, project, and prototype are as opposite to musk as it's possible to be. literally everything there is to dislike about Tesla, is something where Edison goes out of their way to be the opposite.
This a joke ? We will never have a power grid this size
This a joke ? We will never have a power grid this size
That is…slightly terrifying
🤦🏿♂️
The show was awesome, glad I got to make it to Vancouver for the weekend
I've loved tracking all the progress, and to see a working prototype it's just so cool
I think its pretty cool that this is a canadian company, roll on edison! I see a bright future
I'm still pissed that Truduh gave $20 *million* to a company to build an electric show to "prove Canada can build an electric car" with no plans to manufacture it, when this company had been around for years and already had several working prototypes and a production design/plans!
This is the best solution I think, we're never gonna get rid of diesel 100%. The power is incredible!
i love seeing you guys succeed.
Absolutely love it man! Gotta make sure it can do a burnout, ya know, for scientific reasons!
yep for science.
Good stuff, 📖✍️🤓 OK, we need to recharge the batteries for 17 hours now.
@@sMack120It's a hybrid, not fully electric. You guys who make these comments even research or learn before spewing your moronic thoughts everywhere?
@@sMack120it's diesel electric like alot of modern ferries are, so the batteries get charged by an onboard generator, i guess putting electric truck in the description is a bit misleading
@@lauritoerni2080 I know about diesel electric but I thought this was pure 100% electric, ☹️
I have recently been thinking how much better it would be to make a semi in to a hybrid instead of fully electric. You get the insane power of an electric truck and the rage of a diesel, truly the best of both worlds
Yep its a great idea.
I'm still skeptical that electric power can ever be as strong as fossil-fuel. In theory there's more power but in practice it's pretty apples-to-oranges. The power generated by diesel going through a gearbox is just different and I don't know if electric motors will completely ever match it because they're physically limited by the number of copper windings, size and weight of the battery, and the amperage possible through all the connections.
For instance, the fastest vehicles on earth are still fossil-fuel powered. All the airplanes are still fossil-fuel powered.
In fact there is an "all-electric passenger jet" but it only goes 250 miles which is basically a guarantee it will run out of power and crash land if it can't immediately land for any reason. For comparison, the cheapest fossil-fuel airplane is the Piper PA-28 Cherokee, it has a range of over 400 miles, and you could probably double that just by adding a bigger fuel tank.
@@gorkyd7912this truck is a diesel electric hybrid with the diesel disconnected from everything. It just charges the battery. It already makes more power than a straight diesel.
@@marcusborderlands6177 No it doesn't. ALL the power comes from the diesel generator. It's just stored in the battery and used by electric motors.
@@gorkyd7912the fastest trains are entirely electric though
@@gorkyd7912Back in 1920, the US Navy got the Tennessee-class battleship, a 33,000-ton vessel powered by the world's first turbo-electric drive - Using four electric motors that each delivered over 7,000 horsepower to shove the massive ship through the water.
That was a hundred years ago. Today, electric motors at sea do the same for the 100,000-ton (likely more) USS Gerald R. Ford, diesel-electric drive just like this runs the 237,000-ton cruise ship Wonder of the Seas, not to mention all the heavy-duty freight trains that are running about.
If electric motors are powerful enough to be used in place of diesel engines that weigh 50 times as much as a semi truck can legally carry, they're powerful enough to be used to drive those trucks.
It also did a burnout pulling the 100k lbs test load so remembèr that
With electric you can go from 0%-100% power wise almost instantly which makes burning out really easy. Furthermore, 100k lbs behind would make it even easier to burn out since to pull a load that heavy, you need gradual acceleration, or you lose traction.
i have enjoyed seeing so much progress, i remember watching your first tiktoks when you were still logging, cant wait to see how far your team will go and so proud to see a canadian manufacturing company being born🇨🇦❤️
the 5 year old when 80,000 lbs of freight hits them at Mach 2.5:
Question to self, don’t all tires have to spin in order to propel a vehicle?
Sacrifices must be made for excellence.
@@Notfiveo0all the tires spin, but only some of them are powered.
That's the sound of the future. Holy shit.
Sounds like a gay future.
No its not lmfao diesel rules the industry world and will for the unfathomable future
Sound of the future is -
🗣 Hurry up & charge those batteries,
17 hrs = Really 🤯
@@sMack120It's a diesel electric truck with a CAT C9 under the hood for a generator, your country already runs on this type of power with Diesel Electric locomotives running across the country every day hauling a shit ton of freight. Do some research before trashing the truck.
@@Cozzy-Wozzy The video is about this new Electric truck & "spinning tyres in an electric rig", no mention of - Diesel/electric so check your facts before opening your Pie-hole, 😲
Looks like a big rig sounds like a rc car, I love it!
Imagine a day when we no longer have to dread sitting behind a semi at a red light.
Omg yes!!! That will truly be THE DAY! 😂
Add a full load to that and see how quick it goes
Stfu truckers are our life line in America
If you want 20-40 ton load shift all over your front window and through your head than keep pretending this is a good idea 😂😂😂
I imagine an even better day where they are off the roads completely. They should have their own dedicated trade routes on their own roads. And have the behemoths like costco and Walmart build around those routes. Just unnecessary to go from train to a highway.
Now imagine thousands of pounds of freight suddenly being slammed into the rear door from the forward inertia.
Underrated comment 🤣🤣
Now imagine that it goes slower with 40t on the back.
That is right, but the first shock will come for sure, and that is what he meant.@@Secretlyanothername
Unlikely.. but nice try. Better luck next thought💨🤷🏻🤣
I fly cargo planes off of aircraft carriers. In the C-2 we accelerate at ~4G’s of lateral acceleration with thousands of pounds of cargo up against literal particle boards and a couple of metal crossbars 😂 your milk will be ok
Damn that thing pulls off like a bat out of hell.
As much as I personally don't like electric vehicles I wish you guys the best of luck and success
Ok after watching all these videos of Topsy being created I give the fella's a 100/100 + an extra 200 for a job well done. And the story continues...
I'm sure the pallets being transported are going to love that acceleration.
Exactly, it's dumb to tout launch.
@@JF32304nah, got to win all the social media attention. It's dumb to value it. Not to tout it.
@@richardbrooksshnee I'm so glad I don't drink the musk Kool aid.
@@JF32304 musk kool aid? No. Marketing has been cursed forever. Tout everything "positive" and ignoring everything "negative" and show off easily perceived things, even when actually worthless.
@@JF32304musk?
A boy and his expensive, self made toy 😂
Normally, I don’t like electric vehicles, but this one I like😂😂
LOL, reminds me the forst time i took of in my fathers dump truck up a grassy hill in the morning. Spun all 8 wheels up the hill.
Can’t wait to see a load of logs behind er!!
Need to add a front brake lock switch 😛
Or just turn each axle opposite directions 😂
Sounds like a RC truck I would love to have one for my back yard
Glad they made it there
Be awesome to put it in one of the truck rodeos in Quebec, once it’s all dialed in!
Qwee-beck
lock frotn brakes, reverse rear wheel direction and diffs and let her rip, gonna be mean as bro
Can’t wait to see this bad boy at work
A semi that sounds like an RC on launch will never get old
Can you make launch control?
It's electric and basically has built-in launch control.
from the second you put your foot down you have a hundred percent torque from those electric motors.
Gasoline engines that have to be above 2,500 RPMs to 4500 RPMs to have the torque needed to launch, hence launch control. ..... plus it's a semi meant for moving large weight .... to actually write in a launch control codes like Teslas would be pointless and and a waist of time and money
Please bring these and your company to the mid American truck show. Would love to see you there
Keep up the good work guys proving that the little guy can make a big difference
Cant wait for the little guy to make that difference of my local forest being converted to a lithium strip mine
@@dawg7230 That's not happening. The only lithium mine in the US is in a desert in Utah
you mean the silver peak mine thats in nevada thats the only one cause there isnt one in utah. Unless they opened another I dont know about. But we are already looking at new mine sites weve already seen new zoning be approved for new mines. Not to mention that the majority comes from china who gladly destroys their resources to further the chinese communist parties goals. So I guess the fact they are trying to go to war with us and will likely cut off trade as soon as it has the military power to stand woulndt effect the us lithium supply or number of mines in the states. You are more than welcome to support my lithium ventures when that time comes though. or dont, im only a SME. @@appleintosh
A diesel electric truck sounds very interesting as long as it does The job that is needed. I support it.
I would love to see this modified even more and hooked to a pulling sled. Wonder if done right what could it do for competition against 3000hp motors
A large fire
I wanna see that thing have a race with Optimus Prime
no time waiting for the massive turbo at the front to spool
Yeeeoo you actually did what I said...
Love it bro ❤
Dope! I have an odd question for you guys, and I dont expect a direct answer. Will you ever consider making a cab-over chassis? Or to do light trucks?
It’s been answered in previous videos but yes 1 will come out eventually
@@DavidLeon140m3 …..which one?
@@longwingdetrain3183 make cab overs. Have you watched the previous videos?
@@DavidLeon140m3 some, not all. Thanks for being condescending.
If you buy the cab over truck and take it to them they will get you on the list and you can have the first cab over electric.
I don't support going electric... But I support this rig! Diesel generator and instant torque 👌🏻 good job Edison motors can't wait to see what you guys build with deboss 👌🏻👌🏻
I love this idea! Been saying for yrs, someone should build a semi like trains are built. Only need half the engine size to run the generator! Half the fuel! Great idea!
I think these trucks are the future i mean that thing is quick
I saw nothing attatched to the fifthwheel,😊
Normal truck would use 100 gallons to go so far the diesel generator to charge this up to do the same distance will use 130 gallons so its completely moronic
Just cause it’s quick don’t mean it’s good lol
@@effigy42Not true, diesel electric locomotives use the exact same setup and have proven to be far more efficient fuel-wise compared to a straight diesel setup. Stop spewing such stupid bs please.
@@effigy42where do you get theese figures from
Damn...now it's got to recharge.
That's what the CAT engine under the hood is for...
@@keatonkeeler3842she'll make quick work of it!
It runs on diesel. You do know how to keep a truck filled up with diesel, right? It's not rocket science.
they arent tesla..they actually have a brain. they arent trying to get rid of diesel engines, theyre taking advantage of the massively efficient performance of a diesel engine paired with the insane amount of torque you get from using electric motors. tesla just said "uh duuhh les upscale rc car and make it go fast and tats also one of our biggest selling poins buh it has to retarge"
The ONLY fix is to drive less. We cant drive less because they want us in debt.
Huh?
@tylergaye5457 commuting to work everyday is the number one offender to our current emissions problem. Too many people and too many vehicles. We aren't able to work less because we are constantly tied down by debt. Debt controls you and the choices you make. If you owe money, you will work to pay the dividends by whatever means possible. A lot of people never reach their full potential because they are being held back. There is a reconfiguration happening where many people's debt may go down but so will their ability to experience ownership. If we are forced to rent everything, then it is just another form of control, renting comes by way of contract.
@@fatbuddycat okay I don't see how this is even loosely related to the video but whatever
@tylergaye5457 the truck wouldn't exist if we didn't have the pollution issue. The pollution issue wouldn't be as bad without the debt situation.
sounds like a gigantic RC car, and I WANT ONE.
These guys literally took the principals from a locomotive and put it into a truck, this is awesome.
Sounds like a damn RC car!
You’re going to dominate new truck sales.
You're right, I see spinning tires.
No burnout
The tires, got most of my attention.
This is the best thing I’ve seen today!
I love how it sounds like a giant RC car. (In a good way.)
Aw man that's so cool! That must be the loading bays for the VCC, I deliver there pretty regularly
I feel like people dont realize how impressive that is, that thing weighs like 20-25,000lbs.
Some crazy physics in this video
Just an upscale Prius. GENIUS
This honestly makes way toooo much sense.
I’m sure the convention centre security dweebs loved this 😅
You never see these electric semis at work. But if you do see it with a trailer, it's usually pulling around a gocard or a side by side.
Love how y'all retrofitted 1940's tech for today's society
I'm excited to see trucking finally catch back up with what the railroad figured out 70 years ago, diesel electric should be the way forward for trucks. Electric trains on nuclear+renewable powered energy grids and electric Hybrids for the roads.
I would daily drive this. I’m not even joking
it sounds like an electric gokart.
i love it.
Standard diesel trucks will do burn outs bobtail. I used to run a 600 hp 60 series detroit that would spin the tires on dry pavement with an empty trailer if you weren't paying attention to how much push water you were feeding it. No hate on what Edison is doing here, I just see a lot of comments talking about how impressive the power is on this electric truck. This is pretty standard to what you could expect from a diesel also.
Yeah, but you are also having more instant torque from some electric motors
Love all the people who couldn’t take a moment to research and learn that this is a diesel electric truck, so basically a train on tires.
Next I wanna see Topsy doing some sweet donuts lmao
I find it scary just how quite it is and quick. Silent wreking ball on the road. It good to be able to hear where large vehicles are on the road .... i always listen for traffic when driving on hilly roads with blind spots or cannot see traffic coming.
It sounds like one of the pullback cars I had as a child.
Wow, it sounds like a little RC car, perhaps because it's over my little phone speakers.
That is so quiet. It sounds like a toy truck I would get for Christmas.
Looks like they extended the range to over 20 years, great going!
Looks 1000000000000000x better that the Tesla semi 👍
Sounds like an RC truck. Runs like one too.
Wow amazing, a tire that SPINS? AMAZING MAN IVE NEVER SEEN TIRES SPIN TO MOVE A CAR LET ALONE A TRUCK AROUND BEFORE
That puppy pulls hard !!!
You guys should hire Amon Tobin to create a range of sounds for it