Government Grant Controversy: Investigation Results and the Conflict of Interest They Ignored
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- Remember that government grant controversy we were caught up in a few months back? Well, the government’s investigation results are in, and surprise-they’ve found themselves innocent! Despite ignoring my original complaints, everything seems ‘fine’ according to them. 🙄
In this video, I dive deep into the findings (and lack thereof) from the investigation. Here’s a quick recap for those who missed it: We believe we faced a major conflict of interest with a company that administered the grant programs, pressured us into signing up for their services, and had a disproportionate influence on funding decisions. Yet, somehow, none of this was deemed problematic in the investigation.
I’ll break down what the government examined, what they conveniently ignored, and why this report feels like a total farce. If you’re interested in how public funds and taxpayer money are being managed-or mismanaged-through these EV grant programs, this one’s for you.
Watch the full video to get all the details and form your own opinion on whether this kind of conflict of interest should be allowed. Spoiler alert: I don’t think so.
🔗 Read the government report here: www.oag.bc.ca/...
The appearance of a conflict of interest should be enough to disqualify MNP. It’s certainly enough to disqualify the current government.
Can’t we just put 4 different companies into the 4 different roles?
Giving all the roles to just 1 company gives such an opportunity for conflict of interest. Proper organization would prevent this
You can't use logic with this government, this was by design.
Why is it so hard to do things properly. Why everything has to be shady and corrupt?
@@EdisonMotors The companies will just talk to each other. There shouldn't be a contractor at all.
@@EdisonMotors That's a feature, not a bug.
20% of grant as a fee should be illegal in itself. Writing grants for a fee and processing them for the government should be major jailtime illegal. Corruption is obvious.
It already is. It's called embezzlement.
Most grants are like this. Seriously. They all take 1/5th as an "administration" fee or something similar.
And the best part is, they take the kickback immediately upon award of the grant. Then they slowly pay the grant out over a long duration, usually a year or more. The grant is paid on receipts and timesheets, so you might not even get the whole grant amount.
It is a strategy to strip government of tax dollars degrading public services more
as long as they pay tax on it... it's legal. remember when Cristy Clark got a 50k annual top up to her party salary for her great job with getting political donations ... it's literally a bribe... a physical.. literal... bribe... but it was taxed and they made it legal first. so it's fine.
I’m starting to think that mentioning I was going to be visiting Edison Motors was the real reason the government goonies wouldn’t let me into Canada…
That’s funny…..and could also be very true.
Probably haha
Seriously you gotta rehearse how to cross into that communist country.
Canada, the new US
@@CaseyLaDelle hah I called Canada communist and my comment got deleted 🤣
They all belong in prison.
Except the government controls that too.
You have to work really hard to have so many coincidences.
“We asked them nicely and they pinky promised they didn’t cheat. Case Closed” - BC government 😂
Big Pachinko game... all by chance.
@@louiecampbell8227 as Goldfinger said “once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, 3 times is enemy action.”
@@EdisonMotors Is there any way to get a judicial review?
They set it up in such a way that's easy for them to argue though. Playing devils advocate for a minute...They claim that they seek out companies to write grants for; logically they'd be looking for companies that would be successful. A higher rate of their clients are successful; maybe that's because they do a good job of writing proposals.
Regardless of that, I though a conflict of interest was a thing that you had to address whether or not you abused it? The fact that mnp COULD abuse the situation is enough IMO that the situation shouldn't be allowed exist.
That's just crazy to me, this is TEXTBOOK definition of conflict of interest. Thank you for speaking up, the more people complain, the less they'll be able to ignore it
The government uses public funds to pay big pharma for "safe consumption of illegal drugs" just years after they said we all needed to get poked to safely leave our house. If you're still not aware conflict of interest is how we do things here in Canada then you're not paying attention.
Remember folks, it's not corruption if you pay your politicians to make it legal.
It should be reported as a crime and investigated by RCMP, not these corrupt politicians themselves.
lol
RCMP is MIA in the 21st century.
@@Achonas Too bad there is no true neutral country investigators, a lot of people from most country would benefit from that but then,. said neutral country would have too much power and the game continue..
😂😂😂😂 RCMP 😅😅😅😅 you should do stand up, i damn near pissed my pants at that joke.
The RCMP only works at the behest of the PMO. The major crimes they have been ordered to not investigate (or decided not to investigate) are heinous breaches of the law
worth noting again that chase is not depressed and is not considering forever napping himself
I would never forever nap myself. I’d weld steel plate onto a Komatsu before that
@@EdisonMotors Based. Though welding steel plate to Topsy would be cooler 😎
@@EdisonMotors and it would be electric powered so you wouldnt have to worry about exhaust like the last guy!
It's been a while since I trusted a government official to investigate itself!!!!
That trust the citizens should have between them and the government has never really existed in the first place as far as I know !!!!
It's always been "we can trust you as far as we can supervise you"
And at some point in the early 20th century, people lost sight of that.
This current government needs to go , and lots need to be behind bars
But what then? New government comes in and nothing changes, at least nothing will change for the better. They are all a bunch of corrupt thieves!
Corruption in the government isn't a bug it's a feature. This is how cronies are paid off and how support is raised and solidified.
It sounds like the person who wrote that was an MNP employee. I would want to see who did the review and see if there is any connection to MNP. The optics on this look pretty bad even if nothing is wrong.
Or just paid off to write it. Its really hard to trust anything anymore given how often corruption is discovered everywhere
if you go back and watch the previous videos on this topic, MNP is the contracted firm for government audits.
I was wondering about this just today, and I actually figured as much. This kind of stuff is BS no matter which side of the aisle you're on.
You need a LAWYER. that letter you sent, should have been written by a lawyer. every word matters. it is not a person you are talking to, but an institution.
Aye!
Loved the opening, "we investigated ourselves and found that we did nothing wrong." lolol!!!!
I'll reiterate: why are government services being administered by private companies at all?
Because back in the day, some politician had a brainwave on how to cut Government spending. The answer, was to privatize certain sectors. Even though they get our tax money and are effectively part of the government, they can be taken off expense reports. So the government looks good.
There are still too many people that believe companies that are soley motivated by profit will somehow do better than an organization with no incentive for monetization
@@callsignapollo_ No incentive for monetization (profit) equals no incentive to ever improve. Hence the government being so ineffective the longer it exists (in any country). You need competition to be forced to improve. Governments are effectively a monopoly unless the citizens can and are willing to leave the country for another that has better options for them.
@@greasebeardsgarage Where is MNPs competition? It doesn't exist. The unfortunate reality is that once you vote someone in they have little incentive to do anything you voted them in for until the start of the next election cycle, and that's only if it's an election issue if not they never have any incentive to do it.
@greasebeardsgarage profit motive ≠ competition
Profit driven, especially in a low competition sector like utilities or other must-have services, have no incentive to create a better product or service because the company knows people will have to go through them regardless. When one railroad controls 1/3 of a country's rail network, or is the sole arbiter of deciding who is eligible for government contracts, they have no competition or incentives to improve
We investigated ourselves found no wrong doing. Follow the money. Kick backs is why nothing changed
Not enough people have enough of these kinds of conversations on every sector of government.
I’m in your industry, following your company, build testing and these topics.
Keep up your work, we support you.
Government Corruption seems to be all to common! Guy's that had nothing are now millionaires!
Funny how that works isn’t it. Must be from lottery winnings 🤔😉
You proved your point. There MUST be a conflict of interest!.
It’s not just in Canada or USA, it’s world wide
Lets be honest here is anyone surprised at the outcome of this? I give my full support to Edison Motors and I completely agree but we all know the government doesn't care about its people, they're more interested in lining the pockets of big corporations just like this one.
It would be shocking if it wasn't every friggen government in my entire lifetime that is caught in scandals like this.
The thumbnail made me think this was an episode of Letterkenny.
So you were working on your truck the other day ....
The real, final question here is why the hell administration of a government program is being outsourced this heavily at all. I would understand asking local industry or universities to comment on the technical merits of proposals, but there’s no way the BC government is running out of paper-pushers.
"Cutting government spending" is always code for "moving things from being public services to being corporate profit-generators". Guaranteed that's how this got started.
Typical inept government. Get out and vote and get those guys gone.
Voting ain’t gonna change a single thing.
We investigated ourselves and determined that we did nothing wrong.
This is why third party, non-involved, investigations are needed....
Som
Someone please start a petition to ask the.R c m p to investigate , which becomes Federal issue. Down with the n d p slush fund government
Rcmp are not here to help normal people they are but theives and extortionists.
Hopefully this will be reinvestigated after the election and the NDP are given the boot.
If the gov doesn't see an issue it's because it's the norm. Pigs at the trough. They ain't afraid of the taxpayers at all. It's quite apathetic in Canada.
This is a realy harsh story. Aply again after Eby and Co are gone. You have a great product and deserve justice for this corruption.
I feel for you guys. Corruption in Canada is rampant.
Clearly they are not worried about consequences for their continued corruption. I'm pessimistic on this topic. I'm guessing that going forward citizens ability to criticize the government will diminish. Sorry.
Consequences? Who’s going to consequence them?
What an absolute joke and abuse of power.
50 years ago this would be criminal. Sad days!!
I'm sorry only multi-billion dollar corporations get that money. Why would we want to keep our money local
This really goes to show that anything that gets funded by tax money should be under public authority. Giving private companies tax money for innovation is fine and dandy but all the applications should be dealt inside government agencies if it's taxpayers money going in there.
To fight government absurdity you must fight back with absurdity. In the most Canadian way blockade the Canadian maple syrup strategic reserves. If it becomes a global debate they will be more likely to be shamed to resign or change plan.
Wow, this is italian mafia level of corruption :))
You want to get free money? You pay us or you don't see any money :))
You need a new Government. Don’t trust them.
People are adverse to the type of change that's required here. They will fight tooth and nail to retain the status quo.
We need a complete reformation. Something akin to a revolution.
It’s a double edged sword unfortunately. The corruption is widespread among all parties in Canada. It’s just a matter of where the stab the knife.
FYI MNP is not a Government entity. It is limited liability partnership COMPANY. What ever "New Government" get to office will just work with MNP again. Welcome to corporatism and capitalism. Do you like Money?
We're the only province in Canada with a government that isn't actively working to tear down everything we've built. You think the Cons wouldn't find a way to screw this up even worse?!?
@FLOABName its not just a Canadian problem, it exists in all governments.
The procedure they wrote for themselves is criminal, and they followed that procedure to the letter.
If you don't see, you can't look.
Yep nothing fishy there. But swims like a fish, flops like a fish, breathes underwater, but definitely not a fish.
Which elected official is receiving benefit from MNP and in what form? Where are the Fourth & Fifth Estates?
This has to be made widespread public. In the US, file sharing across different teams for government contractors is often forbidden, so as to force competitive designs from the same company. To have administrators with file access to both the reports and the reviews is criminal.
Thank you for the support!
I robbed a gas station, but upon investigating my robbery, I find there is insufficient evidence to prove I robbed it...
One of many reasons we need to vote in this up coming election..
Love what you are doing, stay true to your values, I hope you will not get bought by a big company that will just destroy what you created. And they wonder why we do not trust our government anymore
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I'm ashamed of my government.
Your government hates you.
This sort of thing is why the NDP almost got obliterated as a party in the late 90s.
That's just the way it is ... Things will never be the saamme...
what a bunch of crooks...
It’s sad to hear this. It appears that the corruption runs deep in Canada as it does here in the United States.
Blatant corruption.
"-Sir, why are you so currupt ?
-Who says Im corrupt ?, I literary hired an investigator to audit me and they said all is great..."
And if you keep talking or ask too many questions about our friends, we'll show you how really things get done around here, OK comrade ?"
Love your humor. Respect your entrepreneurial spirit. Keep on trucking
The only problem I see here is an honest man trying to make sense of a dishonest world. Shame there wasn't more people like you.
NDP find anything wrong with what they're doing? Never.
Please let me know the last time any conservative party in government found they were in the wrong.
@@ChaoticAphrodite They'd have to be wrong in the first place for that to happen.
To be fair, every government investigation of every government usually comes out this way. Just like CN cops investigating CN.
Welcome to first past the post elections. Demand proportional representation.
They reversed course on drug decriminalization... they are completely capable of admitting errors and correcting them. The cons would never...
Are we sure this isn’t an episode from Looney Tunes?!
I mean in Canada the $1 and $2 coins are called a loonie and a toonie if I'm not mistaken
@@darrenwebb7732 omg, you serious?!
We need that department of government efficiency
Absolute power absolutely corrupts! Not from the Canada, can you go to your legislators and pressure an outside investigation or change legislation to rid them???
keep on them!! you are doing su much good by getting this out there.
So glad to live in the US where some people at least have the decency to make you follow a paper trail to find the corruption rather than just letting it all hang out for everyone to see. At least then it gives you something to do so you feel a sense of accomplishment when you put the puzzle pieces together... 🙄
I think I'm the first legit comment. This is OUTRAGIOUS but typical, when will the people of BC wake TF up ??!!!
It's not just BC, this is every government and corporation in the entire world. Everything is crooked af.
I bet you use 'woke' as an insult though
@@Jessev741 Excuse me, are you defending the government? Or are you just so bored you're trying to find literally anything you can to insult a stranger on the internet. Big man.
This is unreal.. where do you take something like this if the governing bodies are the ones being suspicious?
Good work fighting the good fight. Sucks that it turned out the way it always does with the government. But you at least did the right thing.
Statistical significance in regulatory oversight is cool.
Critical thinking in policy review and program auditing is also cool.
Requisite complexity in governance has always been cool.
Meritocratic leadership, fairness through insight, and farsighted judgment in economic and industry development/funding, in spite of the pressures of nepotism is, in my opinion, the coolest.
It’s like if vertical integration had a hate child with an oligopoly, and then that offspring told you it wasn’t raining while taking a wee on your head.
Rant aside, my bets on Edison finding a way through the maze.
i like the cut of your jib my friend.
Canadian Government sus? Vote them out of the air lock!
In all seriousness, at least now you might be able to get grants from a different avenue (if thats even possible). Might be an inconvenient kick in the nuts, but you guys seem to manage decently well all things considered. Hope you'll get all the funding you need in the future and make Edison Motors yuge.
Sounds about right. Everything normal. Corruption is expected.
You should put this ridiculous result before Larry Brock, MP - Brantford-Brant as it is another example of what he has been fighting about in government committees.
If the government sees no issue with this, would they also find it acceptable for a private company to both run elections and take a percentage of the campaign funds from the winning candidates? How would that ensure fairness and prevent conflicts of interest?
As a Nova Scotian firearms owner who read the mass casualty commission paper: First time?
And the media has completely ignored this investigation
Thanks for putting it out there
A classic kickback setup.
Gotta love them asking the loaded questions to try to misrepresent the accusation and get favorable responses for their self-investigation
Chase, I'm on the same page, you just can not trust government "period'!!!!!!!
I applied for a government tender. Only two of us applied. They handed the tender to a quebec company with no knowledge nor experience in the area. But the quebec company did have much experience in acquiring government contracts. They knew nothing of the topic but they are experts at how to work the system. Lesson learned - as the little guy no need to waste any more of my time applying for government tenders no chance of it being accepted.
Par for the course for any of these unelected 3 letter agencies that seem to run the country
The best you can do for your own ventures is keep it free of government influence as much as possible and consider any money you get back from them as gravy.
Thank you for sharing.
You see if the program was done right, or even well, then it wouldn't be a government program.
I LOVED my times in Canada
I did notice right away there was a definite lack of competition in the marketplace.
Only 1 phone company, one brand of toothpaste, shampoo, etc. Of course I was in the far north and distribution was a real problem
I would come back in a minute were I able!! Drat the shampoo!! Loved the people, the challenges, the fight to stay alive. Too old and disabled now
Congratulations to everyone at MNP!
Enjoy your new pools and luxury vacations!
That carbon tax money isn’t going to spend itself. It’ll go to programs like this administer in this way.
JT should be stripped of power and any assets and funds he has gained since office.
I have audited myself and found that; after a night of heavy drinking, I, had done nothing wrong
Me, currently cooking breakfast at 12:30pm after a night of drinking
And yes. Our tax money is being wasted.
Can we sign a petition demanding a third party investigation??
The government is never going to find wrong in what they are doing to make sure that the people they want to pay back for political favors are always going to get the money.
Maybe we should stop paying taxes and end these choosing who succeeds and who fails program
Sounds like Edison Motors HAS to go to the NEXT higher department. Like if city court stops you, you go to county court. It country court stops you go to state court and so on and so forth.
I glad to corruption in Canada is alive and well. Just as it is in the USA.
Gives me a warm and fuzzy knowing we are not alone.
Keep up the good fighr for common sense and integrity. I wish you continued
success.
Did MNP do the inquiry?
I wonder how much the cdn public is laughed at behind closed doors
If someone decides who gets in the gate, they control the whole circus🎉
Seems like its time to go to the news and whomever you can get to signal boost you as far-reaching as possible!
Keep up the good fight!
Same thing Pol Pot did. Bury the truth.
And meanwhile in Ottawa we have “the other Randy” and the arrivescam debacle going on that is pretty much in the same ballpark as this nonsense. Government giving friends and government employee owned companies taxpayer money to line their pockets.